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November 11, 2019, 01:46:54 AM
You absolutely know that you don't know that He doesn't exist. You haven't checked enough of the universe to be sure that He doesn't exist somewhere that you haven't checked yet.

Russell's Teapot. The burden of proof sits with the person making unfalsifiable claims, rather than shifting the burden of disproof to others.
It's not up to us atheists to disprove the existence of God.

It's up to atheists to disprove the existence of God if they want, because nature shouts God-proof. Machines have makers.

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Nature shouts evolution. Nothing has ever shouted louder or more conclusively than this. The evidence is literally under our feet.
The 'machines have makers' argument is an unsubstantiated faith, with no evidence to support it.
legendary
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November 10, 2019, 04:29:20 PM
You absolutely know that you don't know that He doesn't exist. You haven't checked enough of the universe to be sure that He doesn't exist somewhere that you haven't checked yet.

Russell's Teapot. The burden of proof sits with the person making unfalsifiable claims, rather than shifting the burden of disproof to others.
It's not up to us atheists to disprove the existence of God.

It's up to atheists to disprove the existence of God if they want, because nature shouts God-proof. Machines have makers.

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legendary
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November 10, 2019, 04:27:48 PM
From what you write you trust, and your god is the non god. you think you're the god of yourself, but what's the use? can you win against death? Can you know how the weather will be to an year? can you know what time is the end of the world? and how many stars are there in the sky? The peace on earth and the end of the wars? Well, if the answer is no, then you should start looking for God.

Cause and effect show that God knows these things.

When a person comes to know God, it is God holding that faith and trust in place.

The Spirit of God is trying to make God known to all people. Those who resist are the strong-willed people. Many weak-willed people are the ones who are affected by God enough to believe in Him. God does it. God holds the trust place in the people who trust in Him.

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The false and dishonest minority partner ready to take everything. But that is worth nothing. You trust in satan?

Satan exists because God tells us He exists. I trust in God, not Satan. Is Satan your god?

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legendary
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November 10, 2019, 04:25:58 PM

On top of that, the universe is a big machine. Machines have makers. You know God exists. Stop lying.

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If something is not provable, it does not make it provable. 

God of the Gaps exists only in your mind.

No post from God = no God.


God's existence is not only provable, but it is not not-provable.

So I ever talk about the God of the Gaps? No. You do. So the God of the Gaps exists in your mind.

Okay. So you believe that billions of people in the world don't exist because they don't post.

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legendary
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November 10, 2019, 04:23:00 PM
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Being an atheist is a choice. The machine nature of the universe attests to God. Machines have makers.

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legendary
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November 10, 2019, 04:20:31 PM

I'm going to ask you a counter question. Since the BB didn't happen because we weren't there to see it,
how do you know Jesus resurrected since you weren't there to see it?

We don't know that not seeing something doesn't make it to exist or not exist. That wasn't the point.

The point was that BB Theory is the anomaly that says that the BB that it produces doesn't exist. How? As I said earlier, BBT says that things were radically different in the beginning of the BB happening? But how can we know this? We used our math and physics to get the understanding of BB. Why wouldn't BB math and physics be different? Everything else was back then. So, our math and physics are producing something that they can't produce... namely, BB.

This doesn't say that some form of BB didn't exist. What it says is that we don't have evidence of BB, and certainly not in BBT.

Might as well say Peter Pan and Tinkerbell are real. Might as well say that E.E. (Doc) Smith's science fiction really happened. Might as well say that Andre Norton's Ross Murdock series is absolutely right. BBT proves that BB couldn't have happened the BBT way.

As far as the resurrection of Jesus goes, we have loads of witnesses who attest to Jesus in the Bible. Or are you going to throw out all the court cases in the USA and the UK because you weren't there?

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November 10, 2019, 11:50:34 AM
legendary
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November 10, 2019, 11:42:21 AM

No. You're still avoiding my question, how was physics different?? Or math  Huh

If I seem to be avoiding your question, it's because I wasn't back then to see how it was different. However, BB theory shows that it was different. How does BB Theory show that it was different? Like this.

BB Theory shows us that at the time of BB and for several million years following, the universe was different. Did you catch that? DIFFERENT!!!

The fact that BB Theory doesn't explain how BB times could be different, without math and physics being different, and without "time" being different, shows that BB is just a guess or science fiction story.

BB Theory builds BB up at the same exact time it tears BB down.

I don't think it can be said any clearer. If you can't understand that BB is only a guess from this, it's because you don't want to. And if you don't want to, it's because BB is becoming a religion for you.

Since there is no BB, we only have two choices for how the Universe came into existence:
1. God;
2. We don't know.

God is the stronger choice, because machines have makers. Atheism is simply another false religion.

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So your answer to how was physics different is that you weren't there so you know it was different? - Not exactly. My answer in that direction is that none of us were there. So none of us knows. However, if you are referring to BB Theory, as I said above, BB Theory says that BB is different than how scientists try to express it. That's why the BB of BB Theory doesn't exist.

You're not familiar at all to what the big bang is and how it happened - Nobody is familiar with what BB is and how it happened, and especially, if it happened. BB Theory paints a picture of a BB that BB Theory shows couldn't exist, you deny everything that's not in relation to the biblical explanation - Of course not. The Bible doesn't explain about every blade of grass, or every color of the sky, or lots of things. We observe these things on our own. This isn't the point of expressing that BB Theory shows that its own BB doesn't exist..
You should really consider your life choices and what makes you pick the decisions you pick. - Thank you. I do. Is it wrong to point out flaws in BB Theory that show BB doesn't exist? You sound like I am messing with your BB religion.

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God is the stronger choice, because machines have makers.

You don't think God could have created the Big Bang?

God can do anything. He could easily have created a BB.

But the BB of BB Theory doesn't exist. BB Theory says so... but not in a straight forward way.


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I'm going to ask you a counter question. Since the BB didn't happen because we weren't there to see it,
how do you know Jesus resurrected since you weren't there to see it?
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November 10, 2019, 11:16:48 AM
You absolutely know that you don't know that He doesn't exist. You haven't checked enough of the universe to be sure that He doesn't exist somewhere that you haven't checked yet.

Russell's Teapot. The burden of proof sits with the person making unfalsifiable claims, rather than shifting the burden of disproof to others.
It's not up to us atheists to disprove the existence of God.
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November 10, 2019, 10:55:48 AM
From what you write you trust, and your god is the non god. you think you're the god of yourself, but what's the use? can you win against death? Can you know how the weather will be to an year? can you know what time is the end of the world? and how many stars are there in the sky? The peace on earth and the end of the wars? Well, if the answer is no, then you should start looking for God.

Cause and effect show that God knows these things.

When a person comes to know God, it is God holding that faith and trust in place.

The Spirit of God is trying to make God known to all people. Those who resist are the strong-willed people. Many weak-willed people are the ones who are affected by God enough to believe in Him. God does it. God holds the trust place in the people who trust in Him.

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The false and dishonest minority partner ready to take everything. But that is worth nothing. You trust in satan?
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November 10, 2019, 10:50:09 AM
Is there an established Christian answer to why God is such a vicious murderer of innocents?

Deuteronomy 20:13  If a city doesn't accept Israel’s offer of peace and open up its gates, then "when the Lord your God delivers it into your hand, put to the sword all the men in it" , and
Deuteronomy 20:16 "Do not leave anything that breathes."

Kill everything! Kill it all, anything that breathes! Kill the bees, those little buzzing bastards didn't surrender unto Israel! Kill the newborn babies! Kill unborn babies in the mother's womb! Death to everything for I am God!

Joshua 6:21 After knocking down the walls of Jericho, the Israelites "destroyed with the sword every living thing in it – men and women, young and old, cattle, sheep, and donkeys"

God is pure evil. Take over that city and kill everyone. Kill the animals. Kill the children. FFS.

Mark 12:28 One of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he had answered them well, asked him, Which is the first commandment of all? And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel The Lord our God is one Lord: And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment. And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.

Kind of sounds like Mark is just making stuff up. Doesn't sound like the killer God from earlier. Unless God is an amnesiac as well as a psychopath.

The basic answer is that there aren't any innocents.

The second answer is that God is the owner.

The third answer is, Satan opposes God and people follow Satan rather than God.

You continue to sound like you want to remain in ignorance, even though it will destroy you.

Cool

Could you please stop talking about God like he exists?

Ask him to post here by himself, or take your God and leave this forum.

No post from God = no God.

Could you please stop trying to turn yourself into god by suggesting that He doesn't exist? You absolutely know that you don't know that He doesn't exist. You haven't checked enough of the universe to be sure that He doesn't exist somewhere that you haven't checked yet.

On top of that, the universe is a big machine. Machines have makers. You know God exists. Stop lying.

Cool

If something is not provable, it does not make it provable. 

God of the Gaps exists only in your mind.

No post from God = no God.

god not does post because is a forbidden work in the rules of bitcointalk.
legendary
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November 10, 2019, 09:11:47 AM
Is there an established Christian answer to why God is such a vicious murderer of innocents?

Deuteronomy 20:13  If a city doesn't accept Israel’s offer of peace and open up its gates, then "when the Lord your God delivers it into your hand, put to the sword all the men in it" , and
Deuteronomy 20:16 "Do not leave anything that breathes."

Kill everything! Kill it all, anything that breathes! Kill the bees, those little buzzing bastards didn't surrender unto Israel! Kill the newborn babies! Kill unborn babies in the mother's womb! Death to everything for I am God!

Joshua 6:21 After knocking down the walls of Jericho, the Israelites "destroyed with the sword every living thing in it – men and women, young and old, cattle, sheep, and donkeys"

God is pure evil. Take over that city and kill everyone. Kill the animals. Kill the children. FFS.

Mark 12:28 One of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he had answered them well, asked him, Which is the first commandment of all? And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel The Lord our God is one Lord: And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment. And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.

Kind of sounds like Mark is just making stuff up. Doesn't sound like the killer God from earlier. Unless God is an amnesiac as well as a psychopath.

The basic answer is that there aren't any innocents.

The second answer is that God is the owner.

The third answer is, Satan opposes God and people follow Satan rather than God.

You continue to sound like you want to remain in ignorance, even though it will destroy you.

Cool

Could you please stop talking about God like he exists?

Ask him to post here by himself, or take your God and leave this forum.

No post from God = no God.

Could you please stop trying to turn yourself into god by suggesting that He doesn't exist? You absolutely know that you don't know that He doesn't exist. You haven't checked enough of the universe to be sure that He doesn't exist somewhere that you haven't checked yet.

On top of that, the universe is a big machine. Machines have makers. You know God exists. Stop lying.

Cool

If something is not provable, it does not make it provable. 

God of the Gaps exists only in your mind.

No post from God = no God.
legendary
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November 10, 2019, 09:05:04 AM
Is there an established Christian answer to why God is such a vicious murderer of innocents?

Deuteronomy 20:13  If a city doesn't accept Israel’s offer of peace and open up its gates, then "when the Lord your God delivers it into your hand, put to the sword all the men in it" , and
Deuteronomy 20:16 "Do not leave anything that breathes."

Kill everything! Kill it all, anything that breathes! Kill the bees, those little buzzing bastards didn't surrender unto Israel! Kill the newborn babies! Kill unborn babies in the mother's womb! Death to everything for I am God!

Joshua 6:21 After knocking down the walls of Jericho, the Israelites "destroyed with the sword every living thing in it – men and women, young and old, cattle, sheep, and donkeys"

God is pure evil. Take over that city and kill everyone. Kill the animals. Kill the children. FFS.

Mark 12:28 One of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he had answered them well, asked him, Which is the first commandment of all? And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel The Lord our God is one Lord: And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment. And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.

Kind of sounds like Mark is just making stuff up. Doesn't sound like the killer God from earlier. Unless God is an amnesiac as well as a psychopath.

The basic answer is that there aren't any innocents.

The second answer is that God is the owner.

The third answer is, Satan opposes God and people follow Satan rather than God.

You continue to sound like you want to remain in ignorance, even though it will destroy you.

Cool

Could you please stop talking about God like he exists?

Ask him to post here by himself, or take your God and leave this forum.

No post from God = no God.

Could you please stop trying to turn yourself into god by suggesting that He doesn't exist? You absolutely know that you don't know that He doesn't exist. You haven't checked enough of the universe to be sure that He doesn't exist somewhere that you haven't checked yet.

On top of that, the universe is a big machine. Machines have makers. You know God exists. Stop lying.

Cool
legendary
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November 10, 2019, 08:58:34 AM
Is there an established Christian answer to why God is such a vicious murderer of innocents?

Deuteronomy 20:13  If a city doesn't accept Israel’s offer of peace and open up its gates, then "when the Lord your God delivers it into your hand, put to the sword all the men in it" , and
Deuteronomy 20:16 "Do not leave anything that breathes."

Kill everything! Kill it all, anything that breathes! Kill the bees, those little buzzing bastards didn't surrender unto Israel! Kill the newborn babies! Kill unborn babies in the mother's womb! Death to everything for I am God!

Joshua 6:21 After knocking down the walls of Jericho, the Israelites "destroyed with the sword every living thing in it – men and women, young and old, cattle, sheep, and donkeys"

God is pure evil. Take over that city and kill everyone. Kill the animals. Kill the children. FFS.

Mark 12:28 One of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he had answered them well, asked him, Which is the first commandment of all? And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel The Lord our God is one Lord: And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment. And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.

Kind of sounds like Mark is just making stuff up. Doesn't sound like the killer God from earlier. Unless God is an amnesiac as well as a psychopath.

The basic answer is that there aren't any innocents.

The second answer is that God is the owner.

The third answer is, Satan opposes God and people follow Satan rather than God.

You continue to sound like you want to remain in ignorance, even though it will destroy you.

Cool

Could you please stop talking about God like he exists?

Ask him to post here by himself, or take your God and leave this forum.

No post from God = no God.
legendary
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November 10, 2019, 08:52:07 AM
Is there an established Christian answer to why God is such a vicious murderer of innocents?

Deuteronomy 20:13  If a city doesn't accept Israel’s offer of peace and open up its gates, then "when the Lord your God delivers it into your hand, put to the sword all the men in it" , and
Deuteronomy 20:16 "Do not leave anything that breathes."

Kill everything! Kill it all, anything that breathes! Kill the bees, those little buzzing bastards didn't surrender unto Israel! Kill the newborn babies! Kill unborn babies in the mother's womb! Death to everything for I am God!

Joshua 6:21 After knocking down the walls of Jericho, the Israelites "destroyed with the sword every living thing in it – men and women, young and old, cattle, sheep, and donkeys"

God is pure evil. Take over that city and kill everyone. Kill the animals. Kill the children. FFS.

Mark 12:28 One of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he had answered them well, asked him, Which is the first commandment of all? And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel The Lord our God is one Lord: And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment. And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.

Kind of sounds like Mark is just making stuff up. Doesn't sound like the killer God from earlier. Unless God is an amnesiac as well as a psychopath.

The basic answer is that there aren't any innocents.

The second answer is that God is the owner.

The third answer is, Satan opposes God and people follow Satan rather than God.

You continue to sound like you want to remain in ignorance, even though it will destroy you.

Cool
sr. member
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November 10, 2019, 12:33:29 AM
Is there an established Christian answer to why God is such a vicious murderer of innocents?

Deuteronomy 20:13  If a city doesn't accept Israel’s offer of peace and open up its gates, then "when the Lord your God delivers it into your hand, put to the sword all the men in it" , and
Deuteronomy 20:16 "Do not leave anything that breathes."

Kill everything! Kill it all, anything that breathes! Kill the bees, those little buzzing bastards didn't surrender unto Israel! Kill the newborn babies! Kill unborn babies in the mother's womb! Death to everything for I am God!

Joshua 6:21 After knocking down the walls of Jericho, the Israelites "destroyed with the sword every living thing in it – men and women, young and old, cattle, sheep, and donkeys"

God is pure evil. Take over that city and kill everyone. Kill the animals. Kill the children. FFS.

Mark 12:28 One of the scribes came, and having heard them reasoning together, and perceiving that he had answered them well, asked him, Which is the first commandment of all? And Jesus answered him, The first of all the commandments is, Hear, O Israel The Lord our God is one Lord: And thou shalt love the Lord thy God with all thy heart, and with all thy soul, and with all thy mind, and with all thy strength: this is the first commandment. And the second is like, namely this, Thou shalt love thy neighbour as thyself. There is none other commandment greater than these.

Kind of sounds like Mark is just making stuff up. Doesn't sound like the killer God from earlier. Unless God is an amnesiac as well as a psychopath.
legendary
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November 09, 2019, 08:27:30 PM
"From what you [OP] write you trust, and your god is the non god Satan..."
FTFY

@BADecker I think the real question is why are you such a sadist?

https://i.imgur.com/fHM78nQ.jpg

Well, it's kinda like you acknowledging what other people call gravity.

What are you even talking about?

Never mind. You like gravity so much that you wouldn't even understand your own answer to my question.

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legendary
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November 09, 2019, 06:36:00 PM
"From what you [OP] write you trust, and your god is the non god Satan..."
FTFY

@BADecker I think the real question is why are you such a sadist?

legendary
Activity: 3906
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November 09, 2019, 04:22:32 PM
From what you write you trust, and your god is the non god. you think you're the god of yourself, but what's the use? can you win against death? Can you know how the weather will be to an year? can you know what time is the end of the world? and how many stars are there in the sky? The peace on earth and the end of the wars? Well, if the answer is no, then you should start looking for God.

Cause and effect show that God knows these things.

When a person comes to know God, it is God holding that faith and trust in place.

The Spirit of God is trying to make God known to all people. Those who resist are the strong-willed people. Many weak-willed people are the ones who are affected by God enough to believe in Him. God does it. God holds the trust place in the people who trust in Him.

Cool
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November 09, 2019, 04:14:10 PM
From what you write you trust, and your god is the non god. you think you're the god of yourself, but what's the use? can you win against death? Can you know how the weather will be to an year? can you know what time is the end of the world? and how many stars are there in the sky? The peace on earth and the end of the wars? Well, if the answer is no, then you should start looking for God.
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