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legendary
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November 08, 2019, 03:08:52 PM

No. You're still avoiding my question, how was physics different?? Or math  Huh

If I seem to be avoiding your question, it's because I wasn't back then to see how it was different. However, BB theory shows that it was different. How does BB Theory show that it was different? Like this.

BB Theory shows us that at the time of BB and for several million years following, the universe was different. Did you catch that? DIFFERENT!!!

The fact that BB Theory doesn't explain how BB times could be different, without math and physics being different, and without "time" being different, shows that BB is just a guess or science fiction story.

BB Theory builds BB up at the same exact time it tears BB down.

I don't think it can be said any clearer. If you can't understand that BB is only a guess from this, it's because you don't want to. And if you don't want to, it's because BB is becoming a religion for you.

Since there is no BB, we only have two choices for how the Universe came into existence:
1. God;
2. We don't know.

God is the stronger choice, because machines have makers. Atheism is simply another false religion.

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So your answer to how was physics different is that you weren't there so you know it was different? - Not exactly. My answer in that direction is that none of us were there. So none of us knows. However, if you are referring to BB Theory, as I said above, BB Theory says that BB is different than how scientists try to express it. That's why the BB of BB Theory doesn't exist.

You're not familiar at all to what the big bang is and how it happened - Nobody is familiar with what BB is and how it happened, and especially, if it happened. BB Theory paints a picture of a BB that BB Theory shows couldn't exist, you deny everything that's not in relation to the biblical explanation - Of course not. The Bible doesn't explain about every blade of grass, or every color of the sky, or lots of things. We observe these things on our own. This isn't the point of expressing that BB Theory shows that its own BB doesn't exist..
You should really consider your life choices and what makes you pick the decisions you pick. - Thank you. I do. Is it wrong to point out flaws in BB Theory that show BB doesn't exist? You sound like I am messing with your BB religion.

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God is the stronger choice, because machines have makers.

You don't think God could have created the Big Bang?

God can do anything. He could easily have created a BB.

But the BB of BB Theory doesn't exist. BB Theory says so... but not in a straight forward way.


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newbie
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November 08, 2019, 01:44:36 PM
There are some people who say that the earth is flat, do you believe it?
legendary
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Freedom&Honor
November 08, 2019, 11:14:13 AM

No. You're still avoiding my question, how was physics different?? Or math  Huh

If I seem to be avoiding your question, it's because I wasn't back then to see how it was different. However, BB theory shows that it was different. How does BB Theory show that it was different? Like this.

BB Theory shows us that at the time of BB and for several million years following, the universe was different. Did you catch that? DIFFERENT!!!

The fact that BB Theory doesn't explain how BB times could be different, without math and physics being different, and without "time" being different, shows that BB is just a guess or science fiction story.

BB Theory builds BB up at the same exact time it tears BB down.

I don't think it can be said any clearer. If you can't understand that BB is only a guess from this, it's because you don't want to. And if you don't want to, it's because BB is becoming a religion for you.

Since there is no BB, we only have two choices for how the Universe came into existence:
1. God;
2. We don't know.

God is the stronger choice, because machines have makers. Atheism is simply another false religion.

Cool

So your answer to how was physics different is that you weren't there so you know it was different?

You're not familiar at all to what the big bang is and how it happened, you deny everything that's not in relation to the biblical explanation.
You should really consider your life choices and what makes you pick the decisions you pick.

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God is the stronger choice, because machines have makers.

You don't think God could have created the Big Bang?
legendary
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November 08, 2019, 09:10:58 AM
^^^ Deceptive? The Jew cries out in pain as he strikes you!
legendary
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November 08, 2019, 09:07:46 AM
@styca that's where you're wrong buckko, one is scientific fact and one is unproven theory.

Objects fall/sink due density and buoyancy with the underlying mechanism being the Coulomb force, gravity is just bullshit that hijacks Coulombs Law.

Gravity is a lie.

"Gravity" is the name that people have given to something that they use every day all the time. This means that it is true, even if they don't know what makes it work. If you want to give it another name, that's okay. But if you try to confuse people by applying another name to gravity, one that they use for something else other than gravity, you are simply being deceptive.

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legendary
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November 08, 2019, 08:50:08 AM
@styca that's where you're wrong buckko, one is scientific fact and one is unproven theory.

Objects fall/sink due density and buoyancy with the underlying mechanism being the Coulomb force, gravity is just bullshit that hijacks Coulombs Law.

Gravity is a lie.
legendary
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November 08, 2019, 08:44:31 AM
^^^ The Coulomb force and Coulomb's Law is testable, observable, measurable and reproducible science.

There's one for you!

Not in FE science. The physics of FE science hasn't even been described. So haw can anyone know that Coulomb's Law is a thing that works with FE science? The testing of it that seems to prove it exists, might simply be some other phenomenon altogether. After all, you say similar about gravity, constantly trying to apply gravity theory to gravity fact, so you can say that gravity doesn't exist.

What does any of your posting here have to do with atheism? The process known as Coulomb's Law is something that God placed into the universe so that man could find it and give it the name Coulomb's Law.

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sr. member
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November 08, 2019, 08:35:54 AM
^^^ The Coulomb force and Coulomb's Law is testable, observable, measurable and reproducible science.

There's one for you!

Thanks, that's great! So you believe in Coulomb's Law, but not the Law of Universal Gravitation...

Coulomb's Law:
The electrical force between two charges is directly proportional to the product of their charges and inversely proportional to the square of the distance between them.

F = k * q1q2 / r2

where:
F = force
k = Coulomb constant
q1, q2   = charges
r = distance of separation

Gravity:
The gravitational force between two masses is directly proportional to the product of their masses and inversely proportional to the square of the distance between them.

F = G * m1m2 / r2

where:
F = force
G = gravitational constant
m1, m2 = masses
r = distance of separation

You can see how similar these are, both based on fundamental and observable physical properties, both verified and verifiable laws.
legendary
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November 08, 2019, 06:37:52 AM
^^^ The Coulomb force and Coulomb's Law is testable, observable, measurable and reproducible science.

There's one for you!
sr. member
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November 08, 2019, 06:24:35 AM
I am genuinely interested in understanding which established scientific facts you believe are genuine scientific facts, that's all. It can't all be conspiracy.

^^^ Not gravity, it's the theoretical glue that holds all the ballshit together and it's not a scientific fact.

Do you believe in any established science though? Electricity? Atoms? Magnetism? Thermodynamics?
I just want to establish a common base point, and we can proceed from there.
legendary
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November 08, 2019, 05:47:21 AM
^^^ Not gravity, it's the theoretical glue that holds all the ballshit together and it's not a scientific fact.
sr. member
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November 08, 2019, 05:02:10 AM
^^^ Science isn't a belief system! The scientific method employs observable, testable, measurable facts; it's empirical not faith based.

Yes, I know, my background is in physics, I understand what science is. It should be me spouting definitions at you, not the other way around! Aaaargh! My fault for not being clear enough; I take full blame.

Yes, science is based on exactly that: cold hard verifiable facts. However, as a person you can either believe in the facts of science, or not believe. Belief is the human bit. You can accept something as valid, or not. You can believe that the results are flawed or faked, or you can believe that the results are valid but the conclusions drawn from them invalid, etc etc.

I am genuinely interested in understanding which established scientific facts you believe are genuine scientific facts, that's all. It can't all be conspiracy.
legendary
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November 08, 2019, 04:46:44 AM
^^^ Science isn't a belief system! The scientific method employs observable, testable, measurable facts; it's empirical not faith based.
sr. member
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November 08, 2019, 04:41:29 AM
There's no scientific proof for gravity, the big bang, outer space, planets, the globe, time-spans of billions of years, or evolution.

Do you think there is scientific proof for anything? I'm not trying to be rude. I know what science you don't believe in, I just want to understand what science you do believe in.
legendary
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November 08, 2019, 04:22:13 AM
^^^ You confuse unproven theory with the scientific method of observable, testable, measurable facts. What you have is a belief system and you sir, are a jackass.

There's no scientific proof for gravity, the big bang, outer space, planets, the globe, time-spans of billions of years, or evolution.

You're Hillary Clinton accusing Trump of Russian collusion while selling the majority of the country's supply of uranium to Russia. You're the Jew crying out in pain as he strikes. It's you that can't science!
sr. member
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November 08, 2019, 03:46:21 AM
Science is awe-inspiring once you understand it. Go on, give it a go.
legendary
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November 08, 2019, 02:33:00 AM
sr. member
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November 08, 2019, 12:20:47 AM
-snip-

Yep, that's basically it. Well, apart from the images.
Timescale is the thing that throws most people. Billions of years is not something that humans can comprehend. I know you don't believe in gravity, but all you need for the universe around you is the laws of physics, plus a load of energy, then watch it expand into space and time.

Not sure what your problem with 'mass' is. Mass is just a manifestation of energy. E=mc2.
legendary
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November 07, 2019, 10:19:45 PM
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legendary
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November 07, 2019, 07:59:42 PM

Let's see it.  Pray to your God to post here, or take your God and shove it up yours.

How about this?  No post by God = no God.

Fair?


God can't deny Himself. But is isn't necessarily going to play your game. You have all the evidence for Him that you need, to know that He exists, right in nature.

Cool

In other words, he is imaginary and he can do squat in the real world.

Anywho, carry on.

In other words, He isn't going to let you and your foolishness dictate to His holiness.

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