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legendary
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April 26, 2018, 05:29:13 PM
I am an Atheist because I have morals.  I know what causes harm and what does not.

I studied all three major religions and found them reprehensible.

They are nursing all the EVIL in this world.
They are responsible for most wars in our history.

All religions are inhumane.  Enslaving and exploiting people.  They cause long-term mental and physical harm.

Never mind that their story lines are nonsense put together by people from the times when these texts were written.

Show me one sacred text that talks about bitcoin hashing algorithm and I'll believe.

You only have morals because God built all people with knowledge of the law inside of them. You can choose to disobey the law of God within you, but it is difficult for any of us to see the law clearly enough to obey it perfectly. This is why God gave us the Bible, in part, so that we could read the law clearly when we were having trouble seeing it within ourselves.

By far the greatest killing was done by people who didn't care about religion or the law within themselves very much, or the law written in the religious books: Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Temujin, etc.

Cool

You have to a bit more specific.  Which God?

Well, it certainly isn't the god you are portraying yourself to be when you talk like you know all kinds of things better than God does.

Cool

Say whaaaaat?

You, me, pope and the latest suicide bomber are all the same.  We are not Gods, just plain, mortal monkeys from Africa.

Again, which God are you talking about?  Jesus, Allah, Zeus, Yahweh or Shiva?

BTW, they are all myths.

If you obey laws given by one God you are disobeying laws of 5000+ other Gods that you don't 'follow'.

How many times do I have to tell you this same thing that you have no answer for?

Nobody is an atheist. People who claim that they are, are liars. They might be quite innocent liars, but they are only attempting to believe that God doesn't exist. Why?

Because nobody knows that God doesn't exist somewhere that they have not looked for Him yet. And because they know this about themselves, that He might exist somewhere that they haven't looked, yet.

Self-proclaimed atheists, at best, are wanna-be atheists.

Cool

I am certain that all religions are bunch of hog wash. Bullshit invented by the people for the people.

As far as questions about unknowns, I know they are unknown.  I am not trying to invent answers without any evidence.

I have many questions for which I could easily say, yeah: "God did it", but that would not get me closer to the truth.

How did the Big Bang happen and why? 
Are there other universes?  How can we tell?
Are there other dimensions? Are they detectable or can they be deduced mathematically?
Are there parallel universes?
Is our universe just a programmable matrix-like reality?  Are we just a computer project for some high-school students in some Alien society in far away universe?

So am I an Atheist?  Of course I am.  Your Holy trinity or bloodthirsty Allah did not create universe billions of years ago.  That I am certain.


Religions other than atheism are not the focus here. You talk about them because you don't have any answer for the fact that there aren't any atheists, but only atheist wanna-be's.

Cool

What are you talking about? I just told you who real Atheists are.  People who know for sure that none of the Gods exist.

Not one of the 5000+ Gods in human history ever manifested itself.

You can say whatever you want, but the fact remains the same.  No God.  No evidence. 

Atheists are people who care about the truth. 

If you want to have a philosophical discussion about some undefined 'God concept', let's have it. 

Just don't tell me it is your Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Hindu (or any other human invented myth) God, because it is easy to prove that those 'Gods' were invented by the people for the people.  There is no question about them.  Just open these sacred texts and read for yourself.  All pure, 100% bullshit from the beginning to the end.

Define God, then we can talk about its existence.  If you start with "it is Jesus our Lord because the Bible says so", the conversation is over.

 
legendary
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Nothing like healthy scepticism and hard evidence
November 07, 2018, 01:11:50 PM
The problem of acceptance from believers that religion adoption is a matter of successful use of violence (mainly, conquest) or coercive and manipulative family education is that makes the spread of religions not a matter of its truthfulness, but a result of military and social trends.

Having one or another religion is essentially a question of random facts: someone born on a christian family, another on a Islamic one, etc.

Seeing here the "hand of god" leads to the conclusion that Islam is the truth religion, since it's the one growing faster (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam#Demographics).

On the other hand, we might conclude also that god thinks atheism is right, taking in account how much it has grown on the last century. On many countries in Europe or on China there are already a majority of atheists.
legendary
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October 21, 2018, 08:26:59 AM
Christianity spread faster in small, politically structured societies
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41562-018-0379-3

Their argument is supported by many historical evidence.

Historically, adoption of a religion has been mainly a coercive reality and not the result of a journey of self-discovery (of course, with some individual exceptions).

Families adopted a religion because their King or invaders embraced it (the history of Christianity with Constantine, Protestantism or Islam confirms it) and directly or indirectly forced this upon them.

Kids adopt a religion because their parents induce this, by early indoctrination or punishment. It's no surprise that most people have the religion of their parents.

While this is true, the greatest reason for the spread of Christianity is that God is bringing people to Christianity through the work of His Holy Spirit.

People often don't do it right. But since this whole world is dying - people usually don't live much longer than 100 years - salvation for Heaven is what counts. And such is what Christianity is all about.

Cool

Let me guess, and you know how to do it "right".

BTW, where is heaven?

Christianity is a myth.  Many pregnant girls in the Bronze Age had to resort to ghosts to save themselves from stoning.

We even have one today:

https://thereisnews.com/pregnant-nun-says-it-was-holy-spirit/

Ironically, the church leaders are not convinced.
legendary
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April 26, 2018, 05:01:53 PM
I am an Atheist because I have morals.  I know what causes harm and what does not.

I studied all three major religions and found them reprehensible.

They are nursing all the EVIL in this world.
They are responsible for most wars in our history.

All religions are inhumane.  Enslaving and exploiting people.  They cause long-term mental and physical harm.

Never mind that their story lines are nonsense put together by people from the times when these texts were written.

Show me one sacred text that talks about bitcoin hashing algorithm and I'll believe.

You only have morals because God built all people with knowledge of the law inside of them. You can choose to disobey the law of God within you, but it is difficult for any of us to see the law clearly enough to obey it perfectly. This is why God gave us the Bible, in part, so that we could read the law clearly when we were having trouble seeing it within ourselves.

By far the greatest killing was done by people who didn't care about religion or the law within themselves very much, or the law written in the religious books: Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Temujin, etc.

Cool

You have to a bit more specific.  Which God?

Well, it certainly isn't the god you are portraying yourself to be when you talk like you know all kinds of things better than God does.

Cool

Say whaaaaat?

You, me, pope and the latest suicide bomber are all the same.  We are not Gods, just plain, mortal monkeys from Africa.

Again, which God are you talking about?  Jesus, Allah, Zeus, Yahweh or Shiva?

BTW, they are all myths.

If you obey laws given by one God you are disobeying laws of 5000+ other Gods that you don't 'follow'.

How many times do I have to tell you this same thing that you have no answer for?

Nobody is an atheist. People who claim that they are, are liars. They might be quite innocent liars, but they are only attempting to believe that God doesn't exist. Why?

Because nobody knows that God doesn't exist somewhere that they have not looked for Him yet. And because they know this about themselves, that He might exist somewhere that they haven't looked, yet.

Self-proclaimed atheists, at best, are wanna-be atheists.

Cool

I am certain that all religions are bunch of hog wash. Bullshit invented by the people for the people.

As far as questions about unknowns, I know they are unknown.  I am not trying to invent answers without any evidence.

I have many questions for which I could easily say, yeah: "God did it", but that would not get me closer to the truth.

How did the Big Bang happen and why? 
Are there other universes?  How can we tell?
Are there other dimensions? Are they detectable or can they be deduced mathematically?
Are there parallel universes?
Is our universe just a programmable matrix-like reality?  Are we just a computer project for some high-school students in some Alien society in far away universe?

So am I an Atheist?  Of course I am.  Your Holy trinity or bloodthirsty Allah did not create universe billions of years ago.  That I am certain.
legendary
Activity: 3906
Merit: 1373
October 21, 2018, 07:24:23 AM
Christianity spread faster in small, politically structured societies
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41562-018-0379-3

Their argument is supported by many historical evidence.

Historically, adoption of a religion has been mainly a coercive reality and not the result of a journey of self-discovery (of course, with some individual exceptions).

Families adopted a religion because their King or invaders embraced it (the history of Christianity with Constantine, Protestantism or Islam confirms it) and directly or indirectly forced this upon them.

Kids adopt a religion because their parents induce this, by early indoctrination or punishment. It's no surprise that most people have the religion of their parents.

While this is true, the greatest reason for the spread of Christianity is that God is bringing people to Christianity through the work of His Holy Spirit.

People often don't do it right. But since this whole world is dying - people usually don't live much longer than 100 years - salvation for Heaven is what counts. And such is what Christianity is all about.

Cool
legendary
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Nothing like healthy scepticism and hard evidence
October 20, 2018, 06:59:40 PM
This last post deserved at least some bashing from some believer.
legendary
Activity: 1455
Merit: 1033
Nothing like healthy scepticism and hard evidence
September 18, 2018, 09:30:39 AM
Christianity spread faster in small, politically structured societies
https://www.nature.com/articles/s41562-018-0379-3

Their argument is supported by many historical evidence.

Historically, adoption of a religion has been mainly a coercive reality and not the result of a journey of self-discovery (of course, with some individual exceptions).

Families adopted a religion because their King or invaders embraced it (the history of Christianity with Constantine, Protestantism or Islam confirms it) and directly or indirectly forced this upon them.

Kids adopt a religion because their parents induce this, by early indoctrination or punishment. It's no surprise that most people have the religion of their parents.
legendary
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August 25, 2018, 11:49:45 AM
It has surely to do with education. I am sure we get introduced to religion since childhood. Moreover, you learn about it from people you live with it or on daily basis. Maybe you are not ready. Philosophy, science and religion are the same. Their role is to teach people. They just show us what can be done in a society and what should not. I know that science and religion clashes often but it is because people were immature in the past. Philosophy, the mother of all sciences is closely linked to religion. The first universities were created by priests. I believe people are atheist because they lack knowledge or are just not ready to open their heart.

Sorry, no, you are just plain wrong

I am not an atheist because I haven't heard of Jesus or read the bible, quite the opposite

I am an atheist BECAUSE I have read the bible... the bible says hundreds of evil things... everything from endorsing slavery, to endorsing murder and genocide... it is an EVIL book.  Period.  End of story.  How would an onmibenevolent God allow people to write such things about him?  If I were God, I would not endorse slavery in my holy book.  Sorry, I cannot accept that

It is simply not possible for God to be omniscient, omnibenevolent, and omnipotent, yet allow evil to exist in the world.  If God was all-knowing, all-loving, and all-powerful, evil would not exist... it's really that simple... the God of the bible is self-contradictory.  This is all the proof you need that god does not exist

Obviously you haven't read the Bible very well, have you.

Sounds like your choice is a political choice, rather than what is real and practical.

Cool
hero member
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August 24, 2018, 08:04:16 AM
It has surely to do with education. I am sure we get introduced to religion since childhood. Moreover, you learn about it from people you live with it or on daily basis. Maybe you are not ready. Philosophy, science and religion are the same. Their role is to teach people. They just show us what can be done in a society and what should not. I know that science and religion clashes often but it is because people were immature in the past. Philosophy, the mother of all sciences is closely linked to religion. The first universities were created by priests. I believe people are atheist because they lack knowledge or are just not ready to open their heart.

I am not an atheist because I haven't heard of Jesus or read the bible, quite the opposite

I am an atheist BECAUSE I have read the bible... the bible says hundreds of evil things... everything from endorsing slavery, to endorsing murder and genocide... it is an EVIL book.  Period.  End of story.  How would an onmibenevolent God allow people to write such things about him?  If I were God, I would not endorse slavery in my holy book.  Sorry, I cannot accept that

It is simply not possible for God to be omniscient, omnibenevolent, and omnipotent, yet allow evil to exist in the world.  If God was all-knowing, all-loving, and all-powerful, evil would not exist... it's really that simple... the God of the bible is self-contradictory.  This is all the proof you need that god does not exist
newbie
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August 24, 2018, 12:13:21 AM
It has surely to do with education. I am sure we get introduced to religion since childhood. Moreover, you learn about it from people you live with it or on daily basis. Maybe you are not ready. Philosophy, science and religion are the same. Their role is to teach people. They just show us what can be done in a society and what should not. I know that science and religion clashes often but it is because people were immature in the past. Philosophy, the mother of all sciences is closely linked to religion. The first universities were created by priests. I believe people are atheist because they lack knowledge or are just not ready to open their heart.
legendary
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April 26, 2018, 05:37:11 AM
legendary
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August 18, 2018, 09:51:01 AM
I am an atheist because i don't want to work for someone and make that person rich from my work.

What does being independently wealthy have to do with being an atheist?

 Huh
newbie
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August 18, 2018, 08:53:36 AM
I am an atheist because i don't want to work for someone and make that person rich from my work.
member
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August 17, 2018, 07:52:48 PM
This thread have been repeating all over again. Well as far as the bitcoin is concern, religion can be bias and with political views that some people does not want at their own. Most probably people are earning love nor people are earning money in getting what they want just because they attach or stick to their own. In my personal experience, religion forms heirarchy wherein people can be renowned in her own ways. Some religion claim that they are saved. Anything that is rude to me is not similiar in everybody's eyes. So it does mean that all of us have their own views and prerogative on what religion you will took.
legendary
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April 25, 2018, 08:53:02 PM
I am an Atheist because I have morals.  I know what causes harm and what does not.

I studied all three major religions and found them reprehensible.

They are nursing all the EVIL in this world.
They are responsible for most wars in our history.

All religions are inhumane.  Enslaving and exploiting people.  They cause long-term mental and physical harm.

Never mind that their story lines are nonsense put together by people from the times when these texts were written.

Show me one sacred text that talks about bitcoin hashing algorithm and I'll believe.

You only have morals because God built all people with knowledge of the law inside of them. You can choose to disobey the law of God within you, but it is difficult for any of us to see the law clearly enough to obey it perfectly. This is why God gave us the Bible, in part, so that we could read the law clearly when we were having trouble seeing it within ourselves.

By far the greatest killing was done by people who didn't care about religion or the law within themselves very much, or the law written in the religious books: Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Temujin, etc.

Cool

You have to a bit more specific.  Which God?

Well, it certainly isn't the god you are portraying yourself to be when you talk like you know all kinds of things better than God does.

Cool

Say whaaaaat?

You, me, pope and the latest suicide bomber are all the same.  We are not Gods, just plain, mortal monkeys from Africa.

Again, which God are you talking about?  Jesus, Allah, Zeus, Yahweh or Shiva?

BTW, they are all myths.

If you obey laws given by one God you are disobeying laws of 5000+ other Gods that you don't 'follow'.
legendary
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August 17, 2018, 08:36:37 AM
Everybody who is an atheist, is so because he wants to be, not because there is any lack of evidence/proof for the existence of God.

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legendary
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April 25, 2018, 11:26:10 AM
I am an Atheist because I have morals.  I know what causes harm and what does not.

I studied all three major religions and found them reprehensible.

They are nursing all the EVIL in this world.
They are responsible for most wars in our history.

All religions are inhumane.  Enslaving and exploiting people.  They cause long-term mental and physical harm.

Never mind that their story lines are nonsense put together by people from the times when these texts were written.

Show me one sacred text that talks about bitcoin hashing algorithm and I'll believe.

You only have morals because God built all people with knowledge of the law inside of them. You can choose to disobey the law of God within you, but it is difficult for any of us to see the law clearly enough to obey it perfectly. This is why God gave us the Bible, in part, so that we could read the law clearly when we were having trouble seeing it within ourselves.

By far the greatest killing was done by people who didn't care about religion or the law within themselves very much, or the law written in the religious books: Stalin, Hitler, Mao, Temujin, etc.

Cool

You have to a bit more specific.  Which God?
newbie
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August 17, 2018, 07:18:51 AM
Life’s better without him
Religion is about control and limitation. Rules, laws and rituals that restrict and govern behaviour. In some cases – say the genital mutilation of infants in barbaric rites of passage practised by religions such as Judiasm – they actually persuade nice people to do awful things.

Which is to say nothing of the countless other horrors committed in the name of God and religion. Suicide bombings, torture, genocide, forced marriages, unwanted babies, war – the list is endless.

A life without religion and without God thus offers freedom from all of these miseries. It offers a person the opportunity to do what they like, in line with their own moral code, within the parameters of the society in which they live. Each decision to be taken is evaluated on its own merits, weighing up the pros and cons, and is not forced down a path by a pre-existing code of conduct dating from a time of ignorance and superstition.
legendary
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August 16, 2018, 11:54:57 AM
There aren't any atheists, because way down deep, nobody believes that God doesn't exist. The fact that someone suggests that God doesn't exist, shows that this so-called atheist is setting himself up to be a god, by suggesting something that he can't know for a fact... that God doesn't exist. So, he is self-contradictory setting himself up as a god, while at the same time claiming that he doesn't exist when he says that God doesn't exist.

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newbie
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August 16, 2018, 09:44:07 AM
We are all atheists about most of the gods that humanity has ever believed in. Some of us just go one god further.
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