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legendary
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June 08, 2018, 06:30:48 PM
legendary
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May 28, 2017, 09:13:59 AM
Religitards think their shit don't stink...

They think they are better than everyone else (God's special/chosen people)

They think everyone else is doomed to hell, and certainly not worthy of being treated with common decency or respect

How sad it must be to believe you are inherently superior to anyone based on believing a fairy tale... What the fuck is wrong with people?


Maybe your believe and faith in God was lost because of your different painful experiences in life.

Thinking your must superior for no one?

Or, believing every one exist because of evolution?

It is between you and God on how you respect your belief.
I do not know how to whom, but for me to do Even the very words of an atheist sound a little insulting. How would I not believe in God weakly or strongly But I'm even very afraid of speaking out negatively, so that everything does not sound like blasphemy. There is some kind of fear in this.

Probably you are brought up in strict traditions. You have fear of God. It is not right. You must understand that God is good and he always cares for you.

Even if you use your brain to reason that he does not exist.  He still 'loves' you.  

He created hell because he 'loves' you.  Remember that.


Right. God created Hell because of people who wanted a place without God. He did it just for you, because He loves you.

Cool

Are you sure?  Maybe Allah will put YOU there for not believing in him ROFL....
newbie
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June 08, 2018, 04:16:09 PM
because inside you are an empty person. it is pretty poor to think that beside our planet, our mind there is nothing. nothing that maybe is much more powerful than we are, or otherwise smth that is weeker. all of us will one day come a a god or something like that. when there will be nobody except you and big fear, only god is whom you gonna speak to, trust me, you'll forget about atheism and etc.
legendary
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June 08, 2018, 06:39:44 AM
^^^ So, you have been indoctrinated into the religion of atheism, because all the atheists know in their hearts that God exists. Besides, science has proven the God exists:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395

re: Machine-like nature of the universe.
That is your human perception.  Nature is very unforgiving, cruel and hostile to life.  Uncontrolled explosions, creation and annihilation of matter is hardly a machine-like nature.

That statement is just your delusion and simple conjecture.

re: Machines have makers. Cause and effect, action and reaction.
Again this is your human projection.   The physical laws and time were not created before the Big Bang.  It is nonsensical to talk about the instance before the Big Bang because our senses are framed in this universe.  It is simply impossible to imagine for most people the world with different physical laws.  Maybe few theoretical Physicists with IQs above 200 can, but projecting the current physical laws to the instance before the Big Bang (which did not exist, BTW) is just a logical mistake.
 
re: The nations look for God.
Not really, opposite works quite well.  Secular governments, secular legal frameworks are more humane than any religious moral laws.
We have abandoned most of the Bible's moral laws.  We don't eat humans, we don't kill babies of our enemies, we introduced equality, abolished slavery, we don't do blood sacrifice to some imaginary beings etc.

Earth is not a closed system, we receive energy from Sun, life on Earth is becoming more complex over time,  entropy does not increase on Earth, instead we observe emergence as a natural process. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16W7c0mb-rE

re: Newton's 3rd Law upholds cause and effect.
This law cannot be applied to the instance before the Big Bang because that "instance" did not exist, i.e. time did not exist and Physics as we understand it did not exist.

You are simply delusional.  You are looking for confirmations of your beliefs and making logical mistakes in the process.

Instead, you should look at the world without any preconceived notions, let the objective evidence lead you to the truth.
legendary
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May 28, 2017, 08:58:33 AM
Religitards think their shit don't stink...

They think they are better than everyone else (God's special/chosen people)

They think everyone else is doomed to hell, and certainly not worthy of being treated with common decency or respect

How sad it must be to believe you are inherently superior to anyone based on believing a fairy tale... What the fuck is wrong with people?


Maybe your believe and faith in God was lost because of your different painful experiences in life.

Thinking your must superior for no one?

Or, believing every one exist because of evolution?

It is between you and God on how you respect your belief.
I do not know how to whom, but for me to do Even the very words of an atheist sound a little insulting. How would I not believe in God weakly or strongly But I'm even very afraid of speaking out negatively, so that everything does not sound like blasphemy. There is some kind of fear in this.

Probably you are brought up in strict traditions. You have fear of God. It is not right. You must understand that God is good and he always cares for you.

Even if you use your brain to reason that he does not exist.  He still 'loves' you.  

He created hell because he 'loves' you.  Remember that.
legendary
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Nothing like healthy scepticism and hard evidence
June 08, 2018, 05:06:42 AM
Small update on the OP.
legendary
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May 24, 2018, 12:50:54 PM
^^^ So, you have been indoctrinated into the religion of atheism, because all the atheists know in their hearts that God exists. Besides, science has proven the God exists:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380.

Cool
legendary
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Freedom&Honor
April 27, 2018, 04:48:33 PM
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You don't have to look anywhere to prove that God described by people in the 'sacred' texts does not exist.  
It is right there in the 'sacred' texts. People describe what they want the God to be, misogynistic, masochistic killer.

The rest of your post makes no sense.  Do winged horses exist?  It is like asking "do you believe in aliens?".

I say with ~100% probability (based on direct observations) that God, winged horses and aliens do not exist.

If I see any of them in flesh, I will change my mind.  Until then it only makes sense to assume they do not exist.

Assuming that they exist is foolish, wishful thinking.  Good ideas for writing a novel or a movie script.

So yes, I am 0.0001% Agnostic and 0.9999% Atheist, if that is what you want to hear.

You're wrong about aliens though

How likely is it that we're the only species in the entire universe?

*set at 2x speed, too slow*
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i93Z7zljQ7I
legendary
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April 27, 2018, 04:42:37 PM
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What are you talking about? I just told you who real Atheists are.  People who know for sure that none of the Gods exist.

Not one of the 5000+ Gods in human history ever manifested itself.

You can say whatever you want, but the fact remains the same.  No God.  No evidence.  

Atheists are people who care about the truth.  

If you want to have a philosophical discussion about some undefined 'God concept', let's have it.  

Just don't tell me it is your Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Hindu (or any other human invented myth) God, because it is easy to prove that those 'Gods' were invented by the people for the people.  There is no question about them.  Just open these sacred texts and read for yourself.  All pure, 100% bullshit from the beginning to the end.

Define God, then we can talk about its existence.  If you start with "it is Jesus our Lord because the Bible says so", the conversation is over.


What are you talking about? I just showed you how there aren't any people who know that God doesn't exist. Because they haven't checked out the whole universe to see if God isn't on some other star or planet. So, there aren't any atheists. There are only atheist wanna-be's, right?

Please check out the rest of the universe to find God. If you don't find Him, then you might be an atheist. But if you find Him, please describe Him to us.

Cool

You don't have to look anywhere to prove that God described by people in the 'sacred' texts does not exist.  
It is right there in the 'sacred' texts. People describe what they want the God to be, misogynistic, masochistic killer.

The rest of your post makes no sense.  Do winged horses exist?  It is like asking "do you believe in aliens?".

I say with ~100% probability (based on direct observations) that God, winged horses and aliens do not exist.

If I see any of them in flesh, I will change my mind.  Until then it only makes sense to assume they do not exist.

Assuming that they exist is foolish, wishful thinking.  Good ideas for writing a novel or a movie script.

So yes, I am 0.0001% Agnostic and 0.9999% Atheist, if that is what you want to hear.


You know that your direct observations only cover a tiny fraction of a percent of the observations that could be made on the earth alone...

And you know that all possible earthly observations cover such a tiny fraction of the potential observations that could be made in the whole universe that such observations would not be noticeable in universe potential observations...

Yet you are stupid enough to attempt to believe that God doesn't exist...

Especially in the face of your own knowledge about observations and potential observations as I stated above?

If you have any faith at all that God doesn't exist, it is so tiny that it is essentially non-existent.

The thing you have in atheism is a political program that doesn't match the definition of atheism at all. Why doesn't it match the definition of atheism? Because you can't and don't believe in your own atheism, even though you profess to. You can't and don't for the reasons I stated above.

Cool

Why you think I am stupid?  Because I reject the Bible/Quran/Talmud that tells me to kill people or own slaves?  Is that why?

I'm open to examine ANY evidence of your God.  You think that I (and millions of people like me) would not follow up on it?

Give me ANY evidence, and I'll believe in your God, aliens or unicorns.

BTW, why you don't believe that aliens and unicorns exist but you do believe some undefined entity exists. 

Why?  Please don't say "because the Bible says so".


You talk like an agnostic, not an atheist.    Cool
member
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April 27, 2018, 04:32:23 PM
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What are you talking about? I just told you who real Atheists are.  People who know for sure that none of the Gods exist.

Not one of the 5000+ Gods in human history ever manifested itself.

You can say whatever you want, but the fact remains the same.  No God.  No evidence.  

Atheists are people who care about the truth.  

If you want to have a philosophical discussion about some undefined 'God concept', let's have it.  

Just don't tell me it is your Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Hindu (or any other human invented myth) God, because it is easy to prove that those 'Gods' were invented by the people for the people.  There is no question about them.  Just open these sacred texts and read for yourself.  All pure, 100% bullshit from the beginning to the end.

Define God, then we can talk about its existence.  If you start with "it is Jesus our Lord because the Bible says so", the conversation is over.


What are you talking about? I just showed you how there aren't any people who know that God doesn't exist. Because they haven't checked out the whole universe to see if God isn't on some other star or planet. So, there aren't any atheists. There are only atheist wanna-be's, right?

Please check out the rest of the universe to find God. If you don't find Him, then you might be an atheist. But if you find Him, please describe Him to us.

Cool

You don't have to look anywhere to prove that God described by people in the 'sacred' texts does not exist.  
It is right there in the 'sacred' texts. People describe what they want the God to be, misogynistic, masochistic killer.

The rest of your post makes no sense.  Do winged horses exist?  It is like asking "do you believe in aliens?".

I say with ~100% probability (based on direct observations) that God, winged horses and aliens do not exist.

If I see any of them in flesh, I will change my mind.  Until then it only makes sense to assume they do not exist.

Assuming that they exist is foolish, wishful thinking.  Good ideas for writing a novel or a movie script.

So yes, I am 0.0001% Agnostic and 0.9999% Atheist, if that is what you want to hear.




" I am he as you are he as you are me and we are all together..."

Look in the mirror. You are God. Your dog is Budha, your Roomba vacuum cleaner is a fledgling god,  as was Pinocchio. All these that have consciousness and those who strive to have more consciousness. Humans, Nature, and now computers and robots are developing consciousness.
legendary
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April 27, 2018, 10:51:12 AM
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What are you talking about? I just told you who real Atheists are.  People who know for sure that none of the Gods exist.

Not one of the 5000+ Gods in human history ever manifested itself.

You can say whatever you want, but the fact remains the same.  No God.  No evidence.  

Atheists are people who care about the truth.  

If you want to have a philosophical discussion about some undefined 'God concept', let's have it.  

Just don't tell me it is your Christian, Muslim, Jewish, Hindu (or any other human invented myth) God, because it is easy to prove that those 'Gods' were invented by the people for the people.  There is no question about them.  Just open these sacred texts and read for yourself.  All pure, 100% bullshit from the beginning to the end.

Define God, then we can talk about its existence.  If you start with "it is Jesus our Lord because the Bible says so", the conversation is over.


What are you talking about? I just showed you how there aren't any people who know that God doesn't exist. Because they haven't checked out the whole universe to see if God isn't on some other star or planet. So, there aren't any atheists. There are only atheist wanna-be's, right?

Please check out the rest of the universe to find God. If you don't find Him, then you might be an atheist. But if you find Him, please describe Him to us.

Cool

You don't have to look anywhere to prove that God described by people in the 'sacred' texts does not exist.  
It is right there in the 'sacred' texts. People describe what they want the God to be, misogynistic, masochistic killer.

The rest of your post makes no sense.  Do winged horses exist?  It is like asking "do you believe in aliens?".

I say with ~100% probability (based on direct observations) that God, winged horses and aliens do not exist.

If I see any of them in flesh, I will change my mind.  Until then it only makes sense to assume they do not exist.

Assuming that they exist is foolish, wishful thinking.  Good ideas for writing a novel or a movie script.

So yes, I am 0.0001% Agnostic and 0.9999% Atheist, if that is what you want to hear.


You know that your direct observations only cover a tiny fraction of a percent of the observations that could be made on the earth alone...

And you know that all possible earthly observations cover such a tiny fraction of the potential observations that could be made in the whole universe that such observations would not be noticeable in universe potential observations...

Yet you are stupid enough to attempt to believe that God doesn't exist...

Especially in the face of your own knowledge about observations and potential observations as I stated above?

If you have any faith at all that God doesn't exist, it is so tiny that it is essentially non-existent.

The thing you have in atheism is a political program that doesn't match the definition of atheism at all. Why doesn't it match the definition of atheism? Because you can't and don't believe in your own atheism, even though you profess to. You can't and don't for the reasons I stated above.

Cool
legendary
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April 26, 2018, 10:47:45 PM
You never know what you might hear, even the most fanatical people can sometimes make good points.

Really?  Can someone make a good point about the existence of Santa Claus?
Well, a non-fanatic can. The historicity of Saint Nicholas of Myra is well established. Though fanatics tend to be a little confused regarding the particulars of their own cult, even going as far as to claim that Santa Claus isn't Christian, when in fact he is the only Christian element in what is otherwise a pagan tradition. There's no reasoning with these people.
legendary
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Verified Bernie Bro - Feel The Bern!
April 26, 2018, 08:30:59 PM

Really?  Can someone make a good point about the existence of Santa Claus?

You never know man, you never know..

Hmmm, if you ever get one, post it.  I'll find it interesting, as will millions of scientists.  Smiley

lol I'm still laughing! I think it's safe to play the odds on the santa story, oh man LOL!  You guys are the best!
Vod
legendary
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Licking my boob since 1970
April 26, 2018, 08:05:22 PM

Really?  Can someone make a good point about the existence of Santa Claus?

You never know man, you never know..

Hmmm, if you ever get one, post it.  I'll find it interesting, as will millions of scientists.  Smiley
legendary
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Freedom&Honor
April 26, 2018, 07:23:33 PM
You never know what you might hear, even the most fanatical people can sometimes make good points.

Really?  Can someone make a good point about the existence of Santa Claus?

You never know man, you never know..
There's a 0.01% chance to hear a life-changing point, but if there's a 1000 things you're certain about, you never know.
10% is something not to throw away.
Vod
legendary
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Licking my boob since 1970
April 26, 2018, 07:17:29 PM
You never know what you might hear, even the most fanatical people can sometimes make good points.

Really?  Can someone make a good point about the existence of Santa Claus?
legendary
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Freedom&Honor
April 26, 2018, 07:09:18 PM
Btw, I remember we had this same discussion a couple years back, you posted some of your old replies and I read through them
That time my beliefs were a bit shaken if I remember it correctly
I was very young back then and I was having a lot of arguements at home for not believing

I've found he is too dense to accept anything that hasn't been pounded into his brain over thousands of sundays...

Best just to put him on ignore.

He is a too deep into it, and doesn't really listen to the other side.

But it's always good to hear other peoples opinions, even if I believe they have no relation to reality.
You never know what you might hear, even the most fanatical people can sometimes make good points.
Vod
legendary
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Licking my boob since 1970
April 26, 2018, 06:58:43 PM
Btw, I remember we had this same discussion a couple years back, you posted some of your old replies and I read through them
That time my beliefs were a bit shaken if I remember it correctly
I was very young back then and I was having a lot of arguements at home for not believing

I've found he is too dense to accept anything that hasn't been pounded into his brain over thousands of sundays...

Best just to put him on ignore.

You could literally tell him it is snowing outside and unless his cult told him this, he won't believe you - even if you throw a snowball.

Luckily, his kind is dying.
legendary
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Freedom&Honor
April 26, 2018, 06:41:45 PM
What are you talking about? I just showed you how there aren't any people who know that God doesn't exist. Because they haven't checked out the whole universe to see if God isn't on some other star or planet. So, there aren't any atheists. There are only atheist wanna-be's, right?

Please check out the rest of the universe to find God. If you don't find Him, then you might be an atheist. But if you find Him, please describe Him to us.

Cool

You don't know for certain that the Flying Spaghetti Monster doesn't exist or the Flying Tea Pot. Because you haven't checked out the whole universe to see if the Flying Spaghetti Monster or the Flying Tea Pot are on some other star or planet. So, there aren't actually any people who don't believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster. There are only anti-spaghetti wanna-be's, right?

Please check out the rest of the universe to find the Flying Spaghetti Monster. If you don't find him, then you might be an anti-spaghettio. But if you find Him, please describe Him to us.


Thank you. With regard to the topic of this thread, you are helping prove that there are no atheists. Why not? Because those who want to identify themselves that way (as atheists), suggest that they believe that God does not exist. But like nobody can prove that the "Flying Spaghetti Monster or the Flying Tea Pot" don't exist, neither can they prove that God doesn't exist. Since they can't prove it - or even begin to prove it - and since they know this, they don't really believe that God doesn't exist. They might look at the odds - there's a lot of space out there, so the odds are in favor of the God possibility - but they surely don't really believe that God doesn't exist. All they are is atheist wanna-be's... if that.

Cool

By your logic, there aren't any Christians because they can't prove that God exists.
Correct?

Well, wrong. Proof of the existence of God can be found here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380.

But this proof doesn't state that it is the Christian God. The faith of the Christian God is held in place by God.

Cool

This is not proof, this is a statement.
You've basically said, things in nature are machine-like, so god is real.
Therefore, your logic if flawed.

If atheists don't exist because they can't prove god doesn't exist, Christians don't exist either because they can't prove god does exist.

Btw, I remember we had this same discussion a couple years back, you posted some of your old replies and I read through them
That time my beliefs were a bit shaken if I remember it correctly
I was very young back then and I was having a lot of arguements at home for not believing
legendary
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April 26, 2018, 06:23:53 PM
What are you talking about? I just showed you how there aren't any people who know that God doesn't exist. Because they haven't checked out the whole universe to see if God isn't on some other star or planet. So, there aren't any atheists. There are only atheist wanna-be's, right?

Please check out the rest of the universe to find God. If you don't find Him, then you might be an atheist. But if you find Him, please describe Him to us.

Cool

You don't know for certain that the Flying Spaghetti Monster doesn't exist or the Flying Tea Pot. Because you haven't checked out the whole universe to see if the Flying Spaghetti Monster or the Flying Tea Pot are on some other star or planet. So, there aren't actually any people who don't believe in the Flying Spaghetti Monster. There are only anti-spaghetti wanna-be's, right?

Please check out the rest of the universe to find the Flying Spaghetti Monster. If you don't find him, then you might be an anti-spaghettio. But if you find Him, please describe Him to us.


Thank you. With regard to the topic of this thread, you are helping prove that there are no atheists. Why not? Because those who want to identify themselves that way (as atheists), suggest that they believe that God does not exist. But like nobody can prove that the "Flying Spaghetti Monster or the Flying Tea Pot" don't exist, neither can they prove that God doesn't exist. Since they can't prove it - or even begin to prove it - and since they know this, they don't really believe that God doesn't exist. They might look at the odds - there's a lot of space out there, so the odds are in favor of the God possibility - but they surely don't really believe that God doesn't exist. All they are is atheist wanna-be's... if that.

Cool

By your logic, there aren't any Christians because they can't prove that God exists.
Correct?

Well, wrong. Proof of the existence of God can be found here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380.

But this proof doesn't state that it is the Christian God. The faith of the Christian God is held in place by God.

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