I am an Atheist because I have morals. I know what causes harm and what does not.
I studied all three major religions and found them reprehensible.
They are nursing all the EVIL in this world.
They are responsible for most wars in our history.
All religions are inhumane. Enslaving and exploiting people. They cause long-term mental and physical harm.
Never mind that their story lines are nonsense put together by people from the times when these texts were written.
Show me one sacred text that talks about bitcoin hashing algorithm and I'll believe.
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Very many points there. I understand that with your mindset, these are great arguments. And many people actually share this view too. But it doesn't take much time before one realizes that these arguments are straw-man. Of course, I don't have as much time as you to pick at everything. But I will touch on one. You made a point about God asking, "Who created me?" This really portrays a very shallow understanding of the image of the God most religions present. If God is still seen as All-knowing, Almighty and Omnipresent, then this question doesn't even arise in anyway. If he created time, space and matter, then He certainly exists outside it.
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Harvard professor Herbert Benson performed a "Study of the Therapeutic Effects of Intercessory Prayer (STEP)" in 2006.[39] The STEP, commonly called the "Templeton Foundation prayer study" or "Great Prayer Experiment", used 1,802 coronary artery bypass surgery patients at six hospitals. Using double-blind protocols, patients were randomized into three groups, individual prayer receptiveness was not measured. The members of the experimental and control Groups 1 and 2 were informed they might or might not receive prayers, and only Group 1 received prayers. Group 3, which served as a test for possible psychosomatic effects, was informed they would receive prayers and subsequently did. Unlike some other studies, STEP attempted to standardize the prayer method. Only first names and last initial for patients were provided and no photographs were supplied. The congregations of three Christian churches who prayed for the patients "were allowed to pray in their own manner, but they were instructed to include the following phrase in their prayers: "for a successful surgery with a quick, healthy recovery and no complications".[40] Some participants complained that this mechanical way they were told to pray as part of the experiment was unusual for them. Complications of surgery occurred in 52 percent of those who received prayer (Group 1), 51 percent of those who did not receive it (Group 2), and 59 percent of patients who knew they would receive prayers (Group 3)
According to this study, knowing that people are praying for you gives a worse result (note: Templeton Foundation is a religious organization)
All you are saying is that if people don't know that they are being prayed for, the results are better.
Well no one can prove that god doesn't exist either.
Don't even get me started on the Scientology cult. I saw an inteview with Leah Remini on the Joe Rogan podcast, I never realized how batshit crazy that religion is. They also are stealing billions of dollars from their slaves.
Don't even get me started on the Scientology cult. I saw an inteview with Leah Remini on the Joe Rogan podcast, I never realized how batshit crazy that religion is. They also are stealing billions of dollars from their slaves.
I'm an atheist, but the idea that the existence of God can neither be proved nor disproved demonstrates how intellectually weak we are...
Nobody can prove there isn't a Flying Spaghetti Monster either, but it doesn't make the idea plausible
God could easily be proven true, all he has to do is show himself to the world... If he really is god, that would be easy, right? But alas, god is the hide and seek champion of the universe for 2000 years running
We can test claims about god, like the efficacy of prayer: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Studies_on_intercessory_prayer#The_STEP_project
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Harvard professor Herbert Benson performed a "Study of the Therapeutic Effects of Intercessory Prayer (STEP)" in 2006.[39] The STEP, commonly called the "Templeton Foundation prayer study" or "Great Prayer Experiment", used 1,802 coronary artery bypass surgery patients at six hospitals. Using double-blind protocols, patients were randomized into three groups, individual prayer receptiveness was not measured. The members of the experimental and control Groups 1 and 2 were informed they might or might not receive prayers, and only Group 1 received prayers. Group 3, which served as a test for possible psychosomatic effects, was informed they would receive prayers and subsequently did. Unlike some other studies, STEP attempted to standardize the prayer method. Only first names and last initial for patients were provided and no photographs were supplied. The congregations of three Christian churches who prayed for the patients "were allowed to pray in their own manner, but they were instructed to include the following phrase in their prayers: "for a successful surgery with a quick, healthy recovery and no complications".[40] Some participants complained that this mechanical way they were told to pray as part of the experiment was unusual for them. Complications of surgery occurred in 52 percent of those who received prayer (Group 1), 51 percent of those who did not receive it (Group 2), and 59 percent of patients who knew they would receive prayers (Group 3)
According to this study, knowing that people are praying for you gives a worse result (note: Templeton Foundation is a religious organization)
Religion is supposed to spread love and positivity but majority of the time all I see from religious people is anger and resentment and scapegoating.
Nature proves intelligent design. If there is intelligent design, there must be an Intelligent Designer.
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2018/07/fred-reed/signature-in-the-cell-and-intelligent-design/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsHkfWr5TEo
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2018/07/fred-reed/signature-in-the-cell-and-intelligent-design/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dsHkfWr5TEo
Well no one can prove that god doesn't exist either.
Don't even get me started on the Scientology cult. I saw an inteview with Leah Remini on the Joe Rogan podcast, I never realized how batshit crazy that religion is. They also are stealing billions of dollars from their slaves.
Don't even get me started on the Scientology cult. I saw an inteview with Leah Remini on the Joe Rogan podcast, I never realized how batshit crazy that religion is. They also are stealing billions of dollars from their slaves.
I'm an atheist, but the idea that the existence of God can neither be proved nor disproved demonstrates how intellectually weak we are...
Well no one can prove that god doesn't exist either.
Don't even get me started on the Scientology cult. I saw an inteview with Leah Remini on the Joe Rogan podcast, I never realized how batshit crazy that religion is. They also are stealing billions of dollars from their slaves.
Don't even get me started on the Scientology cult. I saw an inteview with Leah Remini on the Joe Rogan podcast, I never realized how batshit crazy that religion is. They also are stealing billions of dollars from their slaves.
Why is it so obvious to everyone that Scientology, Mormons, etc are bullshit cults, but they can't see it in their own religion?
Well no one can prove that god doesn't exist either.
Don't even get me started on the Scientology cult. I saw an inteview with Leah Remini on the Joe Rogan podcast, I never realized how batshit crazy that religion is. They also are stealing billions of dollars from their slaves.
Don't even get me started on the Scientology cult. I saw an inteview with Leah Remini on the Joe Rogan podcast, I never realized how batshit crazy that religion is. They also are stealing billions of dollars from their slaves.
I don't understand how people can believe in GOD if so many scientific discoveries have been made.Of course it is easier to rely on God not on yourself and blame God in your failures.That's why I don't believe in God.
I don't understand how people can believe that the universe and the planets in that universe just magically came to be. Also, I never heard someone blaming God for failures, would be kind of weird, but everyone is entitled to their own opinions.
"There is no use to invent a helping imaginary "friend" who will offer you immortality."
---> I think its important to start something like this if we had experiences joining in the church of what we believe we belong. Being an atheist is a choice, but I love being a theist yet unpractical. It gives me freedom of what is like to be me now. Yet from time to time I've been experiencing a little pain that something is different, something is untold, something is unimaginable inside happening, feels like the energy you used to is not empowered. I think everything is a choice.
---> I think its important to start something like this if we had experiences joining in the church of what we believe we belong. Being an atheist is a choice, but I love being a theist yet unpractical. It gives me freedom of what is like to be me now. Yet from time to time I've been experiencing a little pain that something is different, something is untold, something is unimaginable inside happening, feels like the energy you used to is not empowered. I think everything is a choice.
I don't understand how people can believe in GOD if so many scientific discoveries have been made.Of course it is easier to rely on God not on yourself and blame God in your failures.That's why I don't believe in God.
Im an atheist because i simply never believe in something that has been never prooved.
And the only proof that god exists is a bible,a book made thousands year ago by some naive people who got tricked with jesus magical tricks.
Sooooo many brain washed people in the world.
Why does religion matter?
Keep it at home and in your holy temple.
Thats it.. That is where it belongs.
Not in politics or any other place that has any kind of influence of other people.
And the only proof that god exists is a bible,a book made thousands year ago by some naive people who got tricked with jesus magical tricks.
Sooooo many brain washed people in the world.
Why does religion matter?
Keep it at home and in your holy temple.
Thats it.. That is where it belongs.
Not in politics or any other place that has any kind of influence of other people.
Of course, evidence is based on what is empirical observable.
If what we can observe (not necessarily with our senses, since we already know they don't show us what reality is, on the atomic and subatomic level) is completely real is a different issue.
But what we observe can kill us.
What people believe in out of pure faith will have a much harder time killing them.
If what we can observe (not necessarily with our senses, since we already know they don't show us what reality is, on the atomic and subatomic level) is completely real is a different issue.
But what we observe can kill us.
What people believe in out of pure faith will have a much harder time killing them.
The truth is a proposition based on factual evidence.
Therefore, anyone searching for the truth has first of all ask himself: what reasonable amount of evidence would be required to make me change my mind.
The problem with many believers is that they are not on a quest to discover truth, rather their goal is much simpler: keep believing no matter what kind of evidence is shown to them.
Are you a theosophist??? How do you know that you know? How do you know that you know the truth? Well, believers would way it's faith, no need to argue though I'm curious about the evidence. Therefore, anyone searching for the truth has first of all ask himself: what reasonable amount of evidence would be required to make me change my mind.
The problem with many believers is that they are not on a quest to discover truth, rather their goal is much simpler: keep believing no matter what kind of evidence is shown to them.
The truth is a proposition based on factual evidence.
Therefore, anyone searching for the truth has first of all ask himself: what reasonable amount of evidence would be required to make me change my mind.
The problem with many believers is that they are not on a quest to discover truth, rather their goal is much simpler: keep believing no matter what kind of evidence is shown to them.
Therefore, anyone searching for the truth has first of all ask himself: what reasonable amount of evidence would be required to make me change my mind.
The problem with many believers is that they are not on a quest to discover truth, rather their goal is much simpler: keep believing no matter what kind of evidence is shown to them.
The only thing scientific you said is that entropy in the universe is increasing, but you are using it in the context of Earth, which is incorrect.
The rest of it is religious, subjective interpretations. Nothing to do with science.
BTW, you are confusing causality with Newton's 2nd law.
Anyway, your mind is made up. No point to discuss anything with you.
You, notbatman and coincube are all the same. Delusional. You are ignoring basic science, you want to believe what you want to believe, you twist scientific definitions, principles, apply them incorrectly and then claim you have discovered something all other theoretical Physicists missed.
Like I said you are delusional. Whether it is a dome over flat Earth, Christian, three entity God, or infinite entity outside of our universe, it makes no difference. The ideas you guys present are ridiculous. Simply a nonsense.
The only question remains what drives people to believe in nonsense? Is is some sort of false validation that you seek?
Standard for you. You can't contradict anything that I said scientifically, so you lie about what I said and badmouth me.
I did, you just continue to ignore the reality. Complexity increases here on Earth. Evolution is marching on. Entropy decreases due to energy from the Sun. Emergence is a real, observable phenomena.
You are stuck in your world view. You ignore the facts to protect your God concept.
Except for the fact that nobody has even one factual evolution example where they can say that this thing right here has converted from that other thing via evolution... not even one. All we see are changes due to adaptation, or billions of examples of like begets like.
The thing that marches on is evolution science fiction in the minds of retards.
Evolution is probably the greatest example of people believing that something is scientific, but doing so in a completely non-scientific way. Big bang is another. Black hole theory is another. And to your credit, flat earth theory is another.
Flat Earth is a Christian invention.
https://www.lockhaven.edu/~dsimanek/febible.htm
Atheism is also a belief, no less than any other. Freedom of belief is not only the freedom to believe in what is taught, but also the freedom not to believe in it.
I prefer atheism to theism because many theists would make atheism unfree.
I prefer atheism to theism because many theists would make atheism unfree.
The only thing scientific you said is that entropy in the universe is increasing, but you are using it in the context of Earth, which is incorrect.
The rest of it is religious, subjective interpretations. Nothing to do with science.
BTW, you are confusing causality with Newton's 2nd law.
Anyway, your mind is made up. No point to discuss anything with you.
You, notbatman and coincube are all the same. Delusional. You are ignoring basic science, you want to believe what you want to believe, you twist scientific definitions, principles, apply them incorrectly and then claim you have discovered something all other theoretical Physicists missed.
Like I said you are delusional. Whether it is a dome over flat Earth, Christian, three entity God, or infinite entity outside of our universe, it makes no difference. The ideas you guys present are ridiculous. Simply a nonsense.
The only question remains what drives people to believe in nonsense? Is is some sort of false validation that you seek?
Standard for you. You can't contradict anything that I said scientifically, so you lie about what I said and badmouth me.
I did, you just continue to ignore the reality. Complexity increases here on Earth. Evolution is marching on. Entropy decreases due to energy from the Sun. Emergence is a real, observable phenomena.
You are stuck in your world view. You ignore the facts to protect your God concept.
Except for the fact that nobody has even one factual evolution example where they can say that this thing right here has converted from that other thing via evolution... not even one. All we see are changes due to adaptation, or billions of examples of like begets like.
The thing that marches on is evolution science fiction in the minds of retards.
Evolution is probably the greatest example of people believing that something is scientific, but doing so in a completely non-scientific way. Big bang is another. Black hole theory is another. And to your credit, flat earth theory is another.
The only thing scientific you said is that entropy in the universe is increasing, but you are using it in the context of Earth, which is incorrect.
The rest of it is religious, subjective interpretations. Nothing to do with science.
BTW, you are confusing causality with Newton's 2nd law.
Anyway, your mind is made up. No point to discuss anything with you.
You, notbatman and coincube are all the same. Delusional. You are ignoring basic science, you want to believe what you want to believe, you twist scientific definitions, principles, apply them incorrectly and then claim you have discovered something all other theoretical Physicists missed.
Like I said you are delusional. Whether it is a dome over flat Earth, Christian, three entity God, or infinite entity outside of our universe, it makes no difference. The ideas you guys present are ridiculous. Simply a nonsense.
The only question remains what drives people to believe in nonsense? Is is some sort of false validation that you seek?
Standard for you. You can't contradict anything that I said scientifically, so you lie about what I said and badmouth me.
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