Topic: Why I'm an atheist - page 42. (Read 89184 times)

Atheists have no facts to support their arguments, they cannot make a factual claim about god. Nor are they interested in evaluating the evidence that suggests rebirth and etheric beings. Atheists will claim that mind is a product of the brain but this is not a fact and has actually been dis-proven, so factually it is atheists who need to evaluate what is truly fact.

The "stuff" you call my babbling has a scientific process to it. Refute the process. Otherwise, all you have is babbling.

There is no proof.  Your 'cause and effect' babbling is just that, babbling.  Your imaginary God concept does not have a 'cause'.

The difference being, of course, that the existence of God has been proven here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380.

Sure, for intellectual honesty one should say he/she's "agnostic" rather than "atheist", since he/she cannot prove the non existence of a god. In the same way, I cannot disprove the existence of Santa Klaus, therefore, I can't say he doesn't exist, I could only say that I am Santa Klaus "agnostic".
Anyway, being not able to disprove any of the two (god-Santa Klaus), doesn't make them any real.

On Deuteronomy 32:8–9, the good book says that Yahweh (your god) isn't the only god.

The more controversial (but it seems the obvious one) translation/interpretation mentions a father of Yahweh (probably Elyon/El) and his brothers to whom he gives their inheritance, to each god a people.

"8: When God Most High divided up the nations— when he divided up humankind— he decided the people’s boundaries based on the number of the gods.
9: For Yahweh’s portion was his people, Jacob the share of his inheritance."

To be fair I post below several different translations of the controversial 8.

This have to be interpreted taking in consideration that the Israelite people, initially, had the same gods of the other Canaanites peoples, including the Phoenicians, who worshiped Elyon/El. Yahweh was just the son of El, as I wrote in the OP.

So, Yahweh (the god of the Jews, the Christians and Muslims) was one of the sons of the supreme god El (god most high) and became, by decision of his father, the god of the Jews.

The evolution is logic:

1) There are other gods, but Yahweh is the god of the Jews.
2) The Jews should worship only Yahweh.
3) Yahweh is the only god for the Jews.
4) There is no other god but Yahweh.

The existence of more gods and of an assembly of the gods presided by El is acknowledged in other parts of the good book: Psalm 82:1 and 6; 1 Kings 22:19

See:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Divine_Council#Hebrew
http://www.thedivinecouncil.com

About Deuteronomy 32:8–9: http://www.thedivinecouncil.com/DT32BibSac.pdf

What this confirms is that the goods are a human creation, subject to changes and evolution, like all our ideas.

KJ21
When the Most High divided to the nations their inheritance, when He separated the sons of Adam, He set the bounds of the people according to the number of the children of Israel.
ASV
When the Most High gave to the nations their inheritance, When he separated the children of men, He set the bounds of the peoples According to the number of the children of Israel.
AMP
“When the Most High gave the nations their inheritance, When He separated the sons of man, He set the boundaries of the peoples According to the number of the sons of Israel.
AMPC
When the Most High gave to the nations their inheritance, when He separated the children of men, He set the bounds of the peoples according to the number of the Israelites.
BRG
When the most High divided to the nations their inheritance, when he separated the sons of Adam, he set the bounds of the people according to the number of the children of Israel.
CEB
When God Most High divided up the nations— when he divided up humankind— he decided the people’s boundaries based on the number of the gods.
CJB
“When ‘Elyon gave each nation its heritage, when he divided the human race, he assigned the boundaries of peoples according to Isra’el’s population;
CEV
that God Most High gave land to every nation. He assigned a guardian angel to each of them,
DARBY
When the Most High assigned to the nations their inheritance, When he separated the sons of Adam, He set the bounds of the peoples According to the number of the children of Israel.
DRA
When the Most High divided the nations: when he separated the sons of Adam, he appointed the bounds of people according to the number of the children of Israel.
ERV
God Most High separated the people on earth and gave each nation its land. He set up borders for all people. He made as many nations as there are angels.
ESV
When the Most High gave to the nations their inheritance, when he divided mankind, he fixed the borders of the peoples according to the number of the sons of God.
ESVUK
When the Most High gave to the nations their inheritance, when he divided mankind, he fixed the borders of the peoples according to the number of the sons of God.
EXB
God Most High gave ·the nations their lands [L each nation its inheritance], dividing up the ·human race [L sons of man]. He set up borders for the people ·and even numbered the Israelites [L according to the number of the sons/T children of Israel].
GNV
When the most high God divided to the nations their inheritance, when he separated the sons of Adam, he appointed the borders of the people, according to the number of the children of Israel.
GW
When the Most High gave nations their land, when he divided the descendants of Adam, he set up borders for the tribes corresponding to the number of the sons of Israel.
GNT
The Most High assigned nations their lands; he determined where peoples should live. He assigned to each nation a heavenly being,

Even more translations at https://www.biblegateway.com/verse/en/Deuteronomy%2032%3A8

Atheism cannot be a religion. By definition religion is belief in someone else. Atheists deny the existence of God just because there is no evidence that it is. Agnosticism is a lack of opinions. I think it's awful. Such people always become traitors.