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May 27, 2017, 05:56:33 AM
Religitards think their shit don't stink...

They think they are better than everyone else (God's special/chosen people)

They think everyone else is doomed to hell, and certainly not worthy of being treated with common decency or respect

How sad it must be to believe you are inherently superior to anyone based on believing a fairy tale... What the fuck is wrong with people?


Maybe your believe and faith in God was lost because of your different painful experiences in life.

Thinking your must superior for no one?

Or, believing every one exist because of evolution?

It is between you and God on how you respect your belief.
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May 25, 2017, 01:24:10 PM
Since the "soul" has to interact with the body to control it, the "soul" couldn't be a pure metaphysical “substance”, it should be physical, composed of particles/energy (which is the same, as Einstein said) or it couldn’t “command the body”.

The so-called dualism, arguing for a main difference of nature between mind (or soul) and body, imply a direct violation of the Second law of thermodynamics [see, for instance,
Harold Morowitz, The Mind Body Problem and The Second Law of Thermodynamics (http://newdualism.org/papers/H.Morowitz/Morowitz-BandP-1987.pdf)].

Thus, as a system of physical particles, the soul would be subject necessarily to an increase of entropy and therefore to decay and dissolute on smaller particles: on other words, to death.

Moreover, at least until now, the CERN's Large Hadron Collider didn’t find any particle compatible with any "soul".

Some even say that if this particle wasn’t already found, it won’t ever be because, taking in account the levels of energy at which the body works, it had to showed up by now (http://www.express.co.uk/news/science/771662/Brian-Cox-Neil-deGrasse-Tyson-GHOST-LHC).

I have to add this argument against the "soul" to the Op in due time.

Of course, the same reasoning applies to god. In order to be able to create the Universe, he had to have physical nature. An ethereal substance couldn’t create physical particles or changed them in order to cause the Big Bang. The same must said about his ability to make “miracles”.

But I guess that with god everything is fair game, including claim that he can change him self from a “perfect substance” into a physical nature and back again. God is the supreme chameleon.

How exactly would you use the concept of a physical soul to explain the survival of the personality?

The top cases demonstrating the survival of the human personality after the demise of the physical body.
http://www.aeces.info/Top40/top40-main.shtml

Hello to all open-minded atheists,

Thanks for reading the cases, they really are, in my opinion, some of the strongest proof available.
I am still waiting for a rebuttal for these cases, it must include an explanation that is simple and adequate, but to me it seems that survival is the most simple and adequate.
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May 20, 2017, 08:18:27 PM
Great Post.

remember:

"Religion is the opium of the people" is one of the most frequently paraphrased statements of German philosopher and economist Karl Marx. It was translated from the German original, "Die Religion ... ist das Opium des Volkes" and is often rendered as "religion... is the opiate of the masses."

Marx.

Remember:

Even though this was philosophy, for those who adhere(d) to it, it is(was) also religion.

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May 20, 2017, 07:05:49 PM
Great Post.

remember:

"Religion is the opium of the people" is one of the most frequently paraphrased statements of German philosopher and economist Karl Marx. It was translated from the German original, "Die Religion ... ist das Opium des Volkes" and is often rendered as "religion... is the opiate of the masses."

Marx.

Remember:

Even though this was philosophy, for those who adhere(d) to it, it is(was) also religion.

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May 20, 2017, 05:36:12 PM
Great Post.

remember:

"Religion is the opium of the people" is one of the most frequently paraphrased statements of German philosopher and economist Karl Marx. It was translated from the German original, "Die Religion ... ist das Opium des Volkes" and is often rendered as "religion... is the opiate of the masses."

Marx.
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May 20, 2017, 05:32:26 PM
Atheists are those who do not believe in religion.I believe in religion in my heart. I believe that creation is the Creator, He created the world.He has laid our lives for worshiping Him. Therefore, I am not an atheist.
The main thing is not that atheists do not believe in religion, the main thing that they are not ready to accept any claims without evidence. The majority of people who say that believe in God don't believe in him. They only pretend to believe. They're just trying to protect yourself, what if God really exists.
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May 20, 2017, 02:42:29 PM
Since the "soul" has to interact with the body to control it, the "soul" couldn't be a pure metaphysical “substance”, it should be physical, composed of particles/energy (which is the same, as Einstein said) or it couldn’t “command the body”.

The so-called dualism, arguing for a main difference of nature between mind (or soul) and body, imply a direct violation of the Second law of thermodynamics [see, for instance,
Harold Morowitz, The Mind Body Problem and The Second Law of Thermodynamics (http://newdualism.org/papers/H.Morowitz/Morowitz-BandP-1987.pdf)].

Thus, as a system of physical particles, the soul would be subject necessarily to an increase of entropy and therefore to decay and dissolute on smaller particles: on other words, to death.

Moreover, at least until now, the CERN's Large Hadron Collider didn’t find any particle compatible with any "soul".

Some even say that if this particle wasn’t already found, it won’t ever be because, taking in account the levels of energy at which the body works, it had to showed up by now (http://www.express.co.uk/news/science/771662/Brian-Cox-Neil-deGrasse-Tyson-GHOST-LHC).

I have to add this argument against the "soul" to the Op in due time.

Of course, the same reasoning applies to god. In order to be able to create the Universe, he had to have physical nature. An ethereal substance couldn’t create physical particles or changed them in order to cause the Big Bang. The same must said about his ability to make “miracles”.

But I guess that with god everything is fair game, including claim that he can change him self from a “perfect substance” into a physical nature and back again. God is the supreme chameleon.

How exactly would you use the concept of a physical soul to explain the survival of the personality?

The top cases demonstrating the survival of the human personality after the demise of the physical body.
http://www.aeces.info/Top40/top40-main.shtml
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May 11, 2017, 04:10:44 PM
Atheists are those who do not believe in religion.I believe in religion in my heart. I believe that creation is the Creator, He created the world.He has laid our lives for worshiping Him. Therefore, I am not an atheist.

In other words, atheists are kind of blind and dumb. Why? Because atheism is one of the stupidist religions around. And atheists can't even see it.

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March 04, 2017, 09:37:15 AM
Quote

For future reference, "alternative facts" are not the same thing as facts
Atheists have no facts to support their arguments, they cannot make a factual claim about god. Nor are they interested in evaluating the evidence that suggests rebirth and etheric beings. Atheists will claim that mind is a product of the brain but this is not a fact and has actually been dis-proven, so factually it is atheists who need to evaluate what is truly fact.

How can atheists say that they have the answer to the god-question? They do not even have an answer to the evidence suggestive of reincarnation!

52 percent of adult Americans believe that encounters with the dead are possible.
Atheists should carefully evaluate the evidence, here are 20 cases that I have not already mentioned:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twenty_Cases_Suggestive_of_Reincarnation#Published_results
and about 40 more that I keep mentioning:
http://www.aeces.info/Top40/top40-main.shtml

Another famous case: The account of James Chaffin's will is a case that truly seems suggestive of survival of the human personality after death.

Why does the OP say that awareness is an oasis between two deserts of nothingness? It is more elegant and far easier to accept as a working hypothesis that sentience exists as a potential at the source of creation, and the strongest evidence has already been put on the table: Everything to be observed in the universe implies consciousness.

If you are called to the scene of a house break-in, there is nothing stolen, there is no sign of struggle, no blood, no empty cases, and NO BODY, it would only be logical to conclude that there was no murder committed.

Th same goes for your God, there is no physical evidence to conclude otherwise.

What you think is evidence is a product of your imagination.  Not a real physical evidence. 
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May 11, 2017, 04:04:29 PM
Atheists are those who do not believe in religion.I believe in religion in my heart. I believe that creation is the Creator, He created the world.He has laid our lives for worshiping Him. Therefore, I am not an atheist.
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May 11, 2017, 03:50:13 PM
Don't understand how modern people can believe in fairy tales which written over a thousand years ago. Are you not touched on evolution? You have an education? How can this be? I'm an atheist and don't believe in all that nonsense which is written in the Bible.

Well if you think about it, how the world and pretty much how everything works in unison to make things the way they are, i think its logical to believe that there is an architect that did all this. Well i agree if you base your belief strictly in the bible, which i think has been tampered already over time by different people, then this may be hard to swallow. Im not an atheist but i respect how you guys prefer to look at things, basing on logic and science.
If you rely on logic and science, that religion is a fraud. I find it funny to see how religious denominations Borja among themselves for the number of duped their people.

If you rely on logic and science, then logic and science is your religion. Refer to the definition of religion, especially #6 - http://www.dictionary.com/browse/religion?s=t.

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May 11, 2017, 01:28:03 PM
Since the "soul" has to interact with the body to control it, the "soul" couldn't be a pure metaphysical “substance”, it should be physical, composed of particles/energy (which is the same, as Einstein said) or it couldn’t “command the body”.

The so-called dualism, arguing for a main difference of nature between mind (or soul) and body, imply a direct violation of the Second law of thermodynamics [see, for instance,
Harold Morowitz, The Mind Body Problem and The Second Law of Thermodynamics (http://newdualism.org/papers/H.Morowitz/Morowitz-BandP-1987.pdf)].

Thus, as a system of physical particles, the soul would be subject necessarily to an increase of entropy and therefore to decay and dissolute on smaller particles: on other words, to death.

Moreover, at least until now, the CERN's Large Hadron Collider didn’t find any particle compatible with any "soul".

Some even say that if this particle wasn’t already found, it won’t ever be because, taking in account the levels of energy at which the body works, it had to showed up by now (http://www.express.co.uk/news/science/771662/Brian-Cox-Neil-deGrasse-Tyson-GHOST-LHC).

I have to add this argument against the "soul" to the Op in due time.

Of course, the same reasoning applies to god. In order to be able to create the Universe, he had to have physical nature. An ethereal substance couldn’t create physical particles or changed them in order to cause the Big Bang. The same must said about his ability to make “miracles”.

But I guess that with god everything is fair game, including claim that he can change him self from a “perfect substance” into a physical nature and back again. God is the supreme chameleon.
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March 09, 2017, 07:18:53 AM
Don't understand how modern people can believe in fairy tales which written over a thousand years ago. Are you not touched on evolution? You have an education? How can this be? I'm an atheist and don't believe in all that nonsense which is written in the Bible.

Well if you think about it, how the world and pretty much how everything works in unison to make things the way they are, i think its logical to believe that there is an architect that did all this. Well i agree if you base your belief strictly in the bible, which i think has been tampered already over time by different people, then this may be hard to swallow. Im not an atheist but i respect how you guys prefer to look at things, basing on logic and science.
If you rely on logic and science, that religion is a fraud. I find it funny to see how religious denominations Borja among themselves for the number of duped their people.
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March 09, 2017, 06:12:11 AM
Don't understand how modern people can believe in fairy tales which written over a thousand years ago. Are you not touched on evolution? You have an education? How can this be? I'm an atheist and don't believe in all that nonsense which is written in the Bible.

Well if you think about it, how the world and pretty much how everything works in unison to make things the way they are, i think its logical to believe that there is an architect that did all this. Well i agree if you base your belief strictly in the bible, which i think has been tampered already over time by different people, then this may be hard to swallow. Im not an atheist but i respect how you guys prefer to look at things, basing on logic and science.
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March 07, 2017, 04:58:59 PM
Proof is not preferable to faith? That is magical thinking, of course proof is preferable to faith. When it comes to inspired writings, I think you should read it ALL and then make an informed opinion.

Read the gospel that was left out of the Bible:
http://www.phoenixsourcedistributors.com/html/j002/

If you are going to read them "ALL", don't forget about the Koran, Bhagavad Gita, The Zohar, et al

P.S. Your "gospel that was left out of the bible" begins with this disclaimer:
Quote
COPYRIGHT POSITION STATEMENT AND DISCLAIMER

The Phoenix Journals are intended as a “real time” commentary on current events

i.e.  They made this shit up... it's not a book that was around 1700+ years ago... sorry, thanks for playing... care to try again?

Those are the 'false Gods' in his view.  He probably believes in the one on the icons in his church.  You know, the blond haired, blue eyed Jew from 2000 years ago.  

All these cooks believe in the Gods they were brought up with.

That is why it is critical to teach our children Math and Science so that they can differentiate what is real and what is not.

quick2learn is pretty close to being a mental case.  Now he is digging up some novels to support his fantasy.

I said read them all and that is what I did, I did not say any of these texts or gods are false. You act like you know how to speak for me; speak for yourself! I went through many phases of belief and disbelief, but you just want to believe that 60+ parapsychological cases that I mentioned did not happen in reality. You are living in a fantasy because the evidence of survival is being dismissed just because you hear it coming from me, so you say it is just a PDF or just a novel instead of realizing that it is evidence suggestive of survival.

As far as the gospels, this one was recorded in ancient times and discovered later; many gospels were left out of the bible, apparently for political reasons.

You are delusional.  Up your medication.  You are not well.


Pull your head out of the sand before it is too late for you.


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Maybe this man is copying an ostrich? Only Muslims beat such bows. Although there is enough of such customs in Christianity.

Good point. Gotta be that he is copying an ostrich.    Cool
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March 07, 2017, 04:47:06 PM
Proof is not preferable to faith? That is magical thinking, of course proof is preferable to faith. When it comes to inspired writings, I think you should read it ALL and then make an informed opinion.

Read the gospel that was left out of the Bible:
http://www.phoenixsourcedistributors.com/html/j002/

If you are going to read them "ALL", don't forget about the Koran, Bhagavad Gita, The Zohar, et al

P.S. Your "gospel that was left out of the bible" begins with this disclaimer:
Quote
COPYRIGHT POSITION STATEMENT AND DISCLAIMER

The Phoenix Journals are intended as a “real time” commentary on current events

i.e.  They made this shit up... it's not a book that was around 1700+ years ago... sorry, thanks for playing... care to try again?

Those are the 'false Gods' in his view.  He probably believes in the one on the icons in his church.  You know, the blond haired, blue eyed Jew from 2000 years ago.  

All these cooks believe in the Gods they were brought up with.

That is why it is critical to teach our children Math and Science so that they can differentiate what is real and what is not.

quick2learn is pretty close to being a mental case.  Now he is digging up some novels to support his fantasy.

I said read them all and that is what I did, I did not say any of these texts or gods are false. You act like you know how to speak for me; speak for yourself! I went through many phases of belief and disbelief, but you just want to believe that 60+ parapsychological cases that I mentioned did not happen in reality. You are living in a fantasy because the evidence of survival is being dismissed just because you hear it coming from me, so you say it is just a PDF or just a novel instead of realizing that it is evidence suggestive of survival.

As far as the gospels, this one was recorded in ancient times and discovered later; many gospels were left out of the bible, apparently for political reasons.

You are delusional.  Up your medication.  You are not well.


Pull your head out of the sand before it is too late for you.


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Maybe this man is copying an ostrich? Only Muslims beat such bows. Although there is enough of such customs in Christianity.
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March 07, 2017, 03:32:56 PM
Proof is not preferable to faith? That is magical thinking, of course proof is preferable to faith. When it comes to inspired writings, I think you should read it ALL and then make an informed opinion.

Read the gospel that was left out of the Bible:
http://www.phoenixsourcedistributors.com/html/j002/

If you are going to read them "ALL", don't forget about the Koran, Bhagavad Gita, The Zohar, et al

P.S. Your "gospel that was left out of the bible" begins with this disclaimer:
Quote
COPYRIGHT POSITION STATEMENT AND DISCLAIMER

The Phoenix Journals are intended as a “real time” commentary on current events

i.e.  They made this shit up... it's not a book that was around 1700+ years ago... sorry, thanks for playing... care to try again?

Those are the 'false Gods' in his view.  He probably believes in the one on the icons in his church.  You know, the blond haired, blue eyed Jew from 2000 years ago.  

All these cooks believe in the Gods they were brought up with.

That is why it is critical to teach our children Math and Science so that they can differentiate what is real and what is not.

quick2learn is pretty close to being a mental case.  Now he is digging up some novels to support his fantasy.

I said read them all and that is what I did, I did not say any of these texts or gods are false. You act like you know how to speak for me; speak for yourself! I went through many phases of belief and disbelief, but you just want to believe that 60+ parapsychological cases that I mentioned did not happen in reality. You are living in a fantasy because the evidence of survival is being dismissed just because you hear it coming from me, so you say it is just a PDF or just a novel instead of realizing that it is evidence suggestive of survival.

As far as the gospels, this one was recorded in ancient times and discovered later; many gospels were left out of the bible, apparently for political reasons.

You are delusional.  Up your medication.  You are not well.


Pull your head out of the sand before it is too late for you.


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March 07, 2017, 03:29:41 PM

...mental fruitcase talking...

The Bible is complete. Add no more. Take none away.

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If I were you I would take few things away:

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/crazy-shit-bible-says-crazy-shit-christians-say-1367154


No, you wouldn't. You might do it being who you are. But God absolutely wants you to be saved, and in Heaven with us.

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So you agree with killing of gays because they are gay.  And stoning women who play around?

If you do, you are one fucked up dude.  You should join ISIS, maybe you'll go to heaven faster.  Good riddance.


Why do you bring this up? The point about it is who is killing the gays is, the gays are killing themselves by being gay. Having feelings or tendencies towards homosexuality is not what kills anyone. The exercising of those feelings and tendencies is what kills them.

I am of just the opposite mind towards gays. Stop them from dying. The only way to keep them from dying is to turn them from actually exercising their homosexuality.

The greatest form of death is the death in Hellfire for eternity. If an actively gay person believes in Jesus salvation, he will be saved. But his homosexuality is fighting against salvation faith, because God doesn't condone gay practices. Homosexuality will make his life miserable, because God is warning him by letting trouble come on him, so that he will not lose his salvation.

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March 02, 2017, 11:14:17 AM
Atheism is also a religion! Atheist believes that there is no God,one hundred percent sure about it, with no evidence,blindly believing in that "truth", just like a religious man but from the opposite pole. The most objective belief would be Agnosticism , Those people are basically saying: How the fuck could I know if there is or there is no God? Why would I even bother with that question? I will see it after I die or I wont see it after I die,I have this life right now and that is what is important and 100 percent sure.

Sure, for intellectual honesty one should say he/she's "agnostic" rather than "atheist", since he/she cannot prove the non existence of a god. In the same way, I cannot disprove the existence of Santa Klaus, therefore, I can't say he doesn't exist, I could only say that I am Santa Klaus "agnostic".
Anyway, being not able to disprove any of the two (god-Santa Klaus), doesn't make them any real.


The difference being, of course, that the existence of God has been proven here:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.10718395
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.14047133
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1662153.40
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.16803380.

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There is no proof.  Your 'cause and effect' babbling is just that, babbling.  Your imaginary God concept does not have a 'cause'.
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March 07, 2017, 01:49:27 PM
Don't understand how modern people can believe in fairy tales which written over a thousand years ago. Are you not touched on evolution? You have an education? How can this be? I'm an atheist and don't believe in all that nonsense which is written in the Bible.
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