Topic: Why is it becoming a thread for casinos refusing paying very huge winnings? (Read 689 times)
January 15, 2023, 03:57:44 PM
The answer is actually quite simple in this question. No casino likes to pay out a high amount. Often payouts are delayed or arguments are made that prevent the user's payout from being processed, and in this way the site wants the player to continue gambling until all their money is up. Gambling sites also call profitable players problem customers, they would rather lose them than get rich. However, it also has its advantages if big gamblers win a lot of money, but gambling sites then only hope that it is in the balance and that they will continue to gamble. Ultimately, a gambling site is only there for itself to make its own bank account bigger, not that of the customer.
January 15, 2023, 03:10:50 PM
There are many cases like this that we have discussed in the community. but in fact, we don't really know the true story or events.
I can feel how this woman felt when she won the jackpot from the slot machine she was playing, she even has proof in the form of screenshots. at least, he had high hopes when the slot machine made the million dollars he won. but in fact, the casino insists that the machine has a technical problem which somehow can happen.
what makes me curious is how this woman can get that kind of money, and how much the bet per spin is. this makes me really wonder, that maybe the machine is really broken. The problem is, has anyone ever heard that there are gamblers who win prizes of that size from a slot machine? but, however, this is only purely from my personal assessment, that what actually happened we really don't know.
Yeah, being aware of the reputation of a casino or bookie before playing or placing bets will help always. It's also important to be aware of their terms and conditions, and to always keep records of your winnings and bets. In this particular case, it's unclear whether the woman's winnings were a result of a technical glitch or if the casino is trying to avoid paying out. I can feel how this woman felt when she won the jackpot from the slot machine she was playing, she even has proof in the form of screenshots. at least, he had high hopes when the slot machine made the million dollars he won. but in fact, the casino insists that the machine has a technical problem which somehow can happen.
what makes me curious is how this woman can get that kind of money, and how much the bet per spin is. this makes me really wonder, that maybe the machine is really broken. The problem is, has anyone ever heard that there are gamblers who win prizes of that size from a slot machine? but, however, this is only purely from my personal assessment, that what actually happened we really don't know.
However, it's important to keep in mind that even with the best casinos and bookies, there may be times when technical issues occur. It's always best to be cautious and to do your own research before playing or placing bets to avoid any potential issues.
January 15, 2023, 11:06:20 AM
Casinos have laws that have made not paying winnings to gamblers legal and this is very bad. They should also have laws that would in some unique circumstance require that they return the wager. But No, it would be easier for Elon Musk to go to Mars in 2023 than for this to ever happen. Ofcourse the house would always win but the hurt and pain they cause by refusing to pay them their winnings will remain forever.
There's also a law protecting the gamblers so if you won a serious amount with that site and they are not paying, you should sue them and force them to release your winnings, this is possible if you are playing on a regulated casinos but if not, it will be hard for you to force them. Casinos should be more honest even if there's an error with their system if someone hit the jackpot they should pay it because this is not the problem of the gambler, its the problem of the site for having a poor system. Filing a legal case to a crypto casino is very hard and expensive even if they have a license. You will need an international lawyer to file the case on country that casino is under the jurisdiction. It’s expensive and it there’s no guarantee that you can win it because your only proof was your screenshot of winning while casino can use the reason that there software has a bug. The casino will choose the long shot if the winnings of the victim is too high for them to pay.
I never heard someone who file a case against crypto casino and manage to win and get his jackpot prize. Typically this kind of case turn into a settlement for a lower amount of payment.
January 15, 2023, 11:01:44 AM
Casinos have laws that have made not paying winnings to gamblers legal and this is very bad. They should also have laws that would in some unique circumstance require that they return the wager. But No, it would be easier for Elon Musk to go to Mars in 2023 than for this to ever happen. Ofcourse the house would always win but the hurt and pain they cause by refusing to pay them their winnings will remain forever.
There's also a law protecting the gamblers so if you won a serious amount with that site and they are not paying, you should sue them and force them to release your winnings, this is possible if you are playing on a regulated casinos but if not, it will be hard for you to force them. Casinos should be more honest even if there's an error with their system if someone hit the jackpot they should pay it because this is not the problem of the gambler, its the problem of the site for having a poor system. January 15, 2023, 10:53:51 AM
I came across a topic recently now of this very thread about a casino refusing to pay a woman her jackpot winnings of over £35.4m and if you'll all agree with me that, this isn't a little sum of money to just ignore.
What got me worried isn't just the winning but to know why casinos are getting away without paying players their exactly winnings with some shitty excuses ?
Link to the post of the woman's winnings below
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/woman-won-43million-but-was-offered-a-steak-dinner-instead-of-her-winnings-5433888
Please I really want to understand this question and will be glad to hear from people
What got me worried isn't just the winning but to know why casinos are getting away without paying players their exactly winnings with some shitty excuses ?
Link to the post of the woman's winnings below
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/woman-won-43million-but-was-offered-a-steak-dinner-instead-of-her-winnings-5433888
Please I really want to understand this question and will be glad to hear from people
I think it has something to do with their business model. Remember that casinos are businesses and designed in order for the owner to profit/earn money from it. That is also the reason on why there are house edges available to be able to at least gain some advantage and not absolutely be destroyed by the risks.
Unfortunately, lots of casinos nowadays have started to protest against their own customers whereby some winnings were considered void. I guess one factor could be its very nature where these people can easily get away by claiming that their machine "malfunctioned."
January 15, 2023, 10:49:08 AM
The casino always has to ensure that all the conditions of the gambling game machines don't have any problems so that if someone plays on one of the gambling machines, they won't get into trouble as some people have experienced. They must be very sad that the casino rejected their winnings, and even the casino doesn't want to pay out the winnings. But if the casinos don't pay attention to this, they will surely lose all their customers and will go bankrupt quickly.
It's true that there are some situations where we wouldn't really be in a situation where it is looking that real, we shouldn't be really talking about a situation where it is going to end up hurting everyone but if casinos are not paying up, and there is nothing obvious for the reason of it, that casino will get a scam accusation and a negative trust, it has happened here many times.This means that we are going to end up with one less scam casino in that case and I am fine with that as long as it is not my money they steal. Yes, I can sense that people could judge me for it, but if it is a scam, who would want their own money to prove their scam? You would rather someone else gets it.
January 15, 2023, 07:23:05 AM
It's possible that they don't have the money ready and that's why they resort to just reason out that some bugs or glitches has occurred during the spin.
Or they don't just want to pay and doesn't feel that the winner deserves it. You know the management of some casinos are like that, even if the winner is a rightful and genuine winner, they can have that emotion and just have to say some reasons and refuse to pay.
That could be possible too, as most of the shitty casinos would only want to consistently gain profits but not responsible enough when it comes to paying huge winnings. Though let’s say the machine is really malfunctioning, but at least they should have fixed it completely before any game to avoid future troubles. Because if this will always be the scenario, in just few months they will completely lose their customers because they are not reliable and responsible when it comes to payout.Or they don't just want to pay and doesn't feel that the winner deserves it. You know the management of some casinos are like that, even if the winner is a rightful and genuine winner, they can have that emotion and just have to say some reasons and refuse to pay.
January 14, 2023, 07:54:04 PM
It's possible that they don't have the money ready and that's why they resort to just reason out that some bugs or glitches has occurred during the spin.
Or they don't just want to pay and doesn't feel that the winner deserves it. You know the management of some casinos are like that, even if the winner is a rightful and genuine winner, they can have that emotion and just have to say some reasons and refuse to pay.
That could be possible too, as most of the shitty casinos would only want to consistently gain profits but not responsible enough when it comes to paying huge winnings. Though let’s say the machine is really malfunctioning, but at least they should have fixed it completely before any game to avoid future troubles. Because if this will always be the scenario, in just few months they will completely lose their customers because they are not reliable and responsible when it comes to payout. Or they don't just want to pay and doesn't feel that the winner deserves it. You know the management of some casinos are like that, even if the winner is a rightful and genuine winner, they can have that emotion and just have to say some reasons and refuse to pay.
January 14, 2023, 07:10:49 PM
this is a case where only the court can say whether the casino's decision was fair or not, but in terms of following the laws and rules the casino has done nothing wrong as the gambling regulatory authorities have confirmed that the machine was making a mistake, the lady who won should conform because if she takes the case to court and loses the case then she will have to pay the costs of the process, she will only be leaving with unnecessary losses, physical casinos have cameras, they have people on the government side who carry out inspections on the machines, so when the case comes to court, an expert can easily determine the veracity of the facts
January 14, 2023, 05:49:36 PM
Casinos have laws that have made not paying winnings to gamblers legal and this is very bad. They should also have laws that would in some unique circumstance require that they return the wager. But No, it would be easier for Elon Musk to go to Mars in 2023 than for this to ever happen. Ofcourse the house would always win but the hurt and pain they cause by refusing to pay them their winnings will remain forever.
January 14, 2023, 05:21:22 PM
Not all casino can afford to pay all of that money even though we all know that casinos always win against the gamblers. Maybe they have a plan to pay that woman like a decent amount of money that they pay to the woman until all the amount that the woman won is paid fully. I also agree that there could be some sort of issue there like what wiss19 explained. If there's something wrong of it or an issue then the casino is im big trouble and lose profit because of the error (if there's any). If nothing then they will get bad reputation for not paying the woman.
Whatever their reason is, they should not operate a business that they can’t handle and if they think they can’t afford yet to pay for a higher rewards, then better for them to set a limit on the winnings and by this, the gamblers will be more familiar about it and will not expect that much. Winning the jackpot is once in a lifetime opportunity, the gambling site should not make excuses and pay the reward, not unless the gambler violated their terms and conditions. 
January 14, 2023, 05:17:44 PM
Not all casino can afford to pay all of that money even though we all know that casinos always win against the gamblers. Maybe they have a plan to pay that woman like a decent amount of money that they pay to the woman until all the amount that the woman won is paid fully. I also agree that there could be some sort of issue there like what wiss19 explained. If there's something wrong of it or an issue then the casino is im big trouble and lose profit because of the error (if there's any). If nothing then they will get bad reputation for not paying the woman.
January 14, 2023, 04:24:02 PM
I came across a topic recently now of this very thread about a casino refusing to pay a woman her jackpot winnings of over £35.4m and if you'll all agree with me that, this isn't a little sum of money to just ignore.
What got me worried isn't just the winning but to know why casinos are getting away without paying players their exactly winnings with some shitty excuses ?
Link to the post of the woman's winnings below
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/woman-won-43million-but-was-offered-a-steak-dinner-instead-of-her-winnings-5433888
Please I really want to understand this question and will be glad to hear from people
The situation you've mentioned is certainly concerning, and it's understandable that you would have questions about why a casino would refuse to pay out such a large sum of money to a player. Without more information about the specific case you're referring to, it's hard to say exactly why the casino in question is refusing to pay out the winnings.What got me worried isn't just the winning but to know why casinos are getting away without paying players their exactly winnings with some shitty excuses ?
Link to the post of the woman's winnings below
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/woman-won-43million-but-was-offered-a-steak-dinner-instead-of-her-winnings-5433888
Please I really want to understand this question and will be glad to hear from people
However, there are a few potential reasons that come to mind. One possibility is that there was a mistake or error made in the calculation of the winnings. This could be a technical error on the casino's end, or it could be an issue with the game itself. In these cases, the casino would likely investigate the issue and try to resolve it before paying out the winnings.
January 14, 2023, 01:33:12 PM
May be this is not the case and this time the machine malfunctioned, but I've heard stories of casinos and bookies refusing to pay winnings. Most of the time they're are accusing customers of trying to scam casino/bookie. In this particular case they're trying to blame it on a technical glitch/malfunction? Not nice.
There are many cases like this that we have discussed in the community. but in fact, we don't really know the true story or events.
I can feel how this woman felt when she won the jackpot from the slot machine she was playing, she even has proof in the form of screenshots. at least, he had high hopes when the slot machine made the million dollars he won. but in fact, the casino insists that the machine has a technical problem which somehow can happen.
what makes me curious is how this woman can get that kind of money, and how much the bet per spin is. this makes me really wonder, that maybe the machine is really broken. The problem is, has anyone ever heard that there are gamblers who win prizes of that size from a slot machine? but, however, this is only purely from my personal assessment, that what actually happened we really don't know.
January 14, 2023, 03:58:50 AM
Before playing, gamblers must agree to the terms and conditions of the casino,
Was this the reason why she wasn't paid? According to the story? You seee, it's quite unfair when you try to paint stories the way it suits your explanations, and it's obviously different from the subject in question. Do you think I'm hearing an issue like this for the first time? Oh dear, these gender-based inequality must get to stop someday -- especially when it falls into the hands of a man who thinks we had every authority to undone whatever has been done. I made the experiences crystal clear on my first post.
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after you have won that amount and even took a picture of that.Based up on this situation where it has been settled based up on some people been saying about this case.
Taking up this to legal action or negotiations would really be neither be fixed up or not.This is why it is really that hard to point out on whats the truth
but it is really that suggestible that casinos should ensure their machines well and fixed most of the time.
In addition to what you said dude, the woman who won, even took a picture as her evidence just in case the gambling platform makes fun of her, and she didn't make a mistake in thinking if this was her reason if why did he take a picture not just a souvenir only.
I hope that if the woman wins the case, her case will be negotiable because the excuses of the gambling platform are obvious.
January 14, 2023, 03:55:18 AM
I came across a topic recently now of this very thread about a casino refusing to pay a woman her jackpot winnings of over £35.4m and if you'll all agree with me that, this isn't a little sum of money to just ignore.
This is some life changing money in any part of the world and not to be paid after seeing the screen screaming jackpot and what not, this would be war for them with my lawyer's! Btw if they say it's a faulty machine do they refund all players that lost money on it
What got me worried isn't just the winning but to know why casinos are getting away without paying players their exactly winnings with some shitty excuses ?
Link to the post of the woman's winnings below
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/woman-won-43million-but-was-offered-a-steak-dinner-instead-of-her-winnings-5433888
Please I really want to understand this question and will be glad to hear from people
Maybe because the people that win these jackpots buy the stories these casinos tell about faulty machines etc and choose to let them go off the hook, but had it been a high roller who has lost so much money on this same machine, they certainly wouldn't get away with it. Link to the post of the woman's winnings below
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/woman-won-43million-but-was-offered-a-steak-dinner-instead-of-her-winnings-5433888
Please I really want to understand this question and will be glad to hear from people
January 14, 2023, 03:36:50 AM
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Machines paying out incorrectly happen all the time -- there's a reason for oversight. There usually isn't a trial because they're almost always civil matters and the courts have precedent on ruling in favor of casinos in the case of malfunctioning machines. The civil suits are nonsense and shut down almost immediately.
I don't consider casinos not paying out big winnings to be conflated with electronic malfunctions. They're separate discussions entirely. A malfunction is not a legitimate win therefore there isn't anything to pay out. Any land based casino would have their assets seized immediately if they were rigging machines. Casinos not paying out is almost entirely an online issue.
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January 14, 2023, 03:03:27 AM
Casinos refusing to pay big wins has somewhat become rampant for obvious reasons. It's great for us to know which casinos are these to serve as a heads up for us to try and avoid them. If casinos don't have the money to py for wins, why should we trust them? If they're reasons are too ridiculous and unbelievable, why would we entrust that they'll honor the next big win that might occur on their platform? For all we know they are already going under and we might be in for a treat, so as early as now it's great to spot these casinos to avoid them. That $43m win from the lady is a gut-wrenching example that these casinos can just shrug off the win and even get the authorities involved to back them up. Really hard to fight these entities and all that we can do on our end is just avoid them to let them take a hit on their profits.
So if we can’t beat them, at least we can avoid them for good. Well, that is really good for us gamblers as we spend money and end up losing most of the time so when we become lucky and get the chance to win, we will grab for it and once the casino refuse to pay, then let the court decide for them. But it’s better if we can find earlier those reputable and non-reputable casinos as we don’t have to meddle with these issues because it’s never healthy at all for our mental and emotional health.
January 13, 2023, 07:10:52 PM
Casinos refusing to pay big wins has somewhat become rampant for obvious reasons. It's great for us to know which casinos are these to serve as a heads up for us to try and avoid them. If casinos don't have the money to py for wins, why should we trust them? If they're reasons are too ridiculous and unbelievable, why would we entrust that they'll honor the next big win that might occur on their platform? For all we know they are already going under and we might be in for a treat, so as early as now it's great to spot these casinos to avoid them. That $43m win from the lady is a gut-wrenching example that these casinos can just shrug off the win and even get the authorities involved to back them up. Really hard to fight these entities and all that we can do on our end is just avoid them to let them take a hit on their profits.
So if we can’t beat them, at least we can avoid them for good. Well, that is really good for us gamblers as we spend money and end up losing most of the time so when we become lucky and get the chance to win, we will grab for it and once the casino refuse to pay, then let the court decide for them. But it’s better if we can find earlier those reputable and non-reputable casinos as we don’t have to meddle with these issues because it’s never healthy at all for our mental and emotional health.
January 13, 2023, 07:06:46 PM
Casinos refusing to pay big wins has somewhat become rampant for obvious reasons. It's great for us to know which casinos are these to serve as a heads up for us to try and avoid them. If casinos don't have the money to py for wins, why should we trust them? If they're reasons are too ridiculous and unbelievable, why would we entrust that they'll honor the next big win that might occur on their platform? For all we know they are already going under and we might be in for a treat, so as early as now it's great to spot these casinos to avoid them. That $43m win from the lady is a gut-wrenching example that these casinos can just shrug off the win and even get the authorities involved to back them up. Really hard to fight these entities and all that we can do on our end is just avoid them to let them take a hit on their profits.
So if we can’t beat them, at least we can avoid them for good. Well, that is really good for us gamblers as we spend money and end up losing most of the time so when we become lucky and get the chance to win, we will grab for it and once the casino refuse to pay, then let the court decide for them. But it’s better if we can find earlier those reputable and non-reputable casinos as we don’t have to meddle with these issues because it’s never healthy at all for our mental and emotional health.that is the reason why it is always better to stick to reputable and big casinos that have capability to pay big winnings. though if it is offline casino, if you are not satisfied with their answers, you can really sue them, but take into consideration about the resources that you will use throughout the process. if it is online casino, you can easily post snapshots as proof and they may want to resolve it as their reputation is on the line. if you do have strong case, why not pursue legal action if you have funds to spend.
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