Maybe the casino doesn't have the money to pay the winners so they refuse and instead say the machine is broken and other reasons.
Winners also can't complain anywhere because the casino will try to stick to its position, saying it's not their fault.
And when taken to court, the casino will still win and will not pay the winners.
Or the casino really wants to avoid paying for the big wins that the winners get.
Topic: Why is it becoming a thread for casinos refusing paying very huge winnings? - page 6. (Read 689 times)
January 11, 2023, 11:10:08 PM
January 11, 2023, 11:07:07 PM
I don't know if it's becoming a trend. Personally I just see isolated events of gamblers who had huge wins denied by the casino where they played. The root of the problem here in my opinion is that the justice system is legitimizing the excuses adopted by the casinos in such cases against gamblers. It has happened on this case pointed in OP, it has happened in previous cases as well. And when the legal system's authorities make a final decision there is nothing victims can do against it. It's unfair and doesn't even make sense, but that is how this world works.
January 11, 2023, 10:49:01 PM
It was stated that the machine had malfunctioned, and the owner told her that she would need to come back the next day to claim her winnings. Though she already took a photo as proof, there is something fishy about it, that she needs to come back the next day. Though I am not saying all casinos are illegal, I am sure that mostly this is the case with the illegal ones that will try to evade and make excuses just to not have those winning since if this were a legal one, you could easily go after them. Also, I think this is a rare case, but if this happens to you, make sure you don't leave the premises without having assurance or proof that you'll be getting the money.
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January 11, 2023, 10:43:02 PM
A thread? Or you mean trend?
He means a trend.
I don't think it's becoming trend <...>
Is this really a trend? Could you provide us all the links to other similar news to say that this is becoming a troubling trend?
No, it's not a trend. Just because there have been some cases does not mean that it is. Surely the OP has also seen some cases on Scam Accusations, but not all of them by far are the result of casino wrongdoing. It's not uncommon to find out in one of those accusations, that the accuser was actually a cheater who got caught.
January 11, 2023, 10:36:49 PM
Is this really a trend? Could you provide us all the links to other similar news to say that this is becoming a troubling trend? That news was really bothering me especially because it seems the casino is not penalized or fined for it. It got away with it. That was such a bad precedent. Other casinos might also do it if somebody wins the jackpot.
Online casinos also have this tendency. I have encountered complaints where gamblers are accusing casinos of not paying the jackpot prizes. The casinos would usually respond by saying the gambler had committed violations. This is also a bad practice. It is unfair and even cheating to point out violations only when the player won the jackpot.
Online casinos also have this tendency. I have encountered complaints where gamblers are accusing casinos of not paying the jackpot prizes. The casinos would usually respond by saying the gambler had committed violations. This is also a bad practice. It is unfair and even cheating to point out violations only when the player won the jackpot.
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January 11, 2023, 10:35:48 PM
What got me worried isn't just the winning but why are casinos getting away without paying players their exactly winnings with some shitty excuses ?
You will know the answer if you read carefully the full details of the article attached. The casino getaway because they use technicality combined with there terms of services to conclude that the slot machine display an error figure. Besides that huge jackpot win is really massive if the woman is just betting few cents since there’s a max win per bet amount.
I believe the investigator see this which is why they accept the casino reason to getaway on a huge debt. The woman needs a very good lawyer that will find all the evidence that the slot machine is not malfunctioning at that time.
Besides there’s a lot of same cases like this even on online casino and most of the time casino getaway once they use the reason that there software is malfunctioned that covers by there terms to protect them.
January 11, 2023, 10:14:54 PM
I came across a topic recently now on this very thread about a casino refusing to pay a woman ber jackpot winnings of over £35.4m and if you'll agree me that, this isn't a little sum of money to just ignore.
What got me worried isn't just the winning but why are casinos getting away without paying players their exactly winnings with some shitty excuses ?
Link to the post of the woman's winnings below
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/woman-won-43million-but-was-offered-a-steak-dinner-instead-of-her-winnings-5433888
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It is easy to imagine that depending on the size of the win different procedures are put in place to determine the legitimacy of the win.What got me worried isn't just the winning but why are casinos getting away without paying players their exactly winnings with some shitty excuses ?
Link to the post of the woman's winnings below
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/woman-won-43million-but-was-offered-a-steak-dinner-instead-of-her-winnings-5433888
Please I really want to understand this question and will be glad to hear from people
In the case of a small win most casinos will not do a through investigation as it is more important to pay their customers as fast as possible, however when the win has such a huge size then it is normal for casinos to investigate more deeply and if they determine there is something wrong with the win they can refuse to pay, especially as the amount of money we are talking about in the example that you are bringing is not small at all.
January 11, 2023, 09:48:38 PM
I came across a topic recently now on this very thread about a casino refusing to pay a woman ber jackpot winnings of over £35.4m and if you'll agree me that, this isn't a little sum of money to just ignore.
What got me worried isn't just the winning but why are casinos getting away without paying players their exactly winnings with some shitty excuses ?
Link to the post of the woman's winnings below
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/woman-won-43million-but-was-offered-a-steak-dinner-instead-of-her-winnings-5433888
Please I really want to understand this question and will be glad to hear from people
that thread you shared are enough for you to understand what answers your questions .What got me worried isn't just the winning but why are casinos getting away without paying players their exactly winnings with some shitty excuses ?
Link to the post of the woman's winnings below
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/woman-won-43million-but-was-offered-a-steak-dinner-instead-of-her-winnings-5433888
Please I really want to understand this question and will be glad to hear from people
I'm not sure why need to put it here because what happened on that winning for me is also questionable , 43 million dollars jackpot for single slot ? not sure if this is really a legit win and there is in that malfunction in that machine.
I don't think it's becoming trend, it's just that when some casino don't pay other casinos are also assumed to be same, assumptions are ofc far from truth.
and that happened also in 2016 and that had already answered Im sure. 
January 11, 2023, 09:38:59 PM
I don't think it's becoming trend, it's just that when some casino don't pay — other casinos are also assumed to be same, assumptions are ofc far from truth.
January 11, 2023, 09:36:49 PM
It's simply that the sites may have some reasons by refusing to pay that woman. This has become a common problem for sure. That's why people who didn't get paid will always try to blow up the case to make sure that will be pushing the sites to pay what they deserve by winning the big reward.
So many problems happened with the various sites started from that. That's why we must be careful with any of gambling sites. that's a lot of money. The sites must try to pay what they can affort to pay it.
I think that this gonna be a long term problem since the winner will not let the site will not pay him. That's why stay away from the casino that was offering non sense reward. They have high chance to not pay.
So many problems happened with the various sites started from that. That's why we must be careful with any of gambling sites. that's a lot of money. The sites must try to pay what they can affort to pay it.
I think that this gonna be a long term problem since the winner will not let the site will not pay him. That's why stay away from the casino that was offering non sense reward. They have high chance to not pay.
January 11, 2023, 08:22:27 PM
Any casino that those not pay their customers any amount they win is definitely a scam casino, no matter how huge the amount is. I believe they decided not to pay the woman because they believe it's a huge amount and they can't afford to lose that amount of money, but if it's the woman that lose that kind of amount, they won't refund the money to her and they won't give her other offers, the money is gone. Why is the casino not ready to lose, they just want to be winning always which is very bad. The funniest part is that they didn't even give her better offer just a steak dinner, that's very annoying.
January 11, 2023, 08:18:53 PM
this isn't a little sum of money to just ignore.
You are right this is not a small money to ignore that's why gambling sites make excuses in order to get away with the winnings. We should admit that some gambling sites really doesn't have huge bankroll and really can't afford to pay players if they win a jackpot and that's what we should avoid. There are some previous incident here in the forum where a gambling site couldn't afford to pay its customer and promised to pay him a portion on a monthly basis, sounds ridiculous right as you will be receiving your winnings partially and on a monthly basis.I'm not sure if that casino were new but that's what I'm skeptical to new casinos if they offer big rewards and bonuses, well of course not all new gambling sites are like that but most of them are starting business so it's not bad to question that.
January 11, 2023, 08:14:15 PM
Here's the thing, we can't exactly verify the veracity of their claims since, well, all prior testing of said "malfunction" was done by them. Even if it was approved by the NY Gaming Commission, it still wasn't exactly publicly verified, so we can't know whether it's really a malfunction or not. If it was, then end of the story nothing can be done. If it wasn't, then the main reason would be because they didn't want to play, as for specifics we'd probably never know.
If there really was a purpose to it, it's something that stems from human evil or greed I guess. Nothing we can do about it really.
If there really was a purpose to it, it's something that stems from human evil or greed I guess. Nothing we can do about it really.
January 11, 2023, 07:59:23 PM
Casino owners of these businesses could really get away out of possible accusations that they arent being fair or telling the truth even if the complainant would really be piling some charges or case against them.
Why? They do really have the money for them to clear up the mess and thats the sad reality.Unless if they cant able to bribe the handling officials or something in justice department for the said situation
then someone could have the chance but its unlikely to happen. This is why its really sad to think that winners of those life changing amounts would turn out to be still a dream
even if they had really won it but it was taken back. Sad.
Why? They do really have the money for them to clear up the mess and thats the sad reality.Unless if they cant able to bribe the handling officials or something in justice department for the said situation
then someone could have the chance but its unlikely to happen. This is why its really sad to think that winners of those life changing amounts would turn out to be still a dream
even if they had really won it but it was taken back. Sad.
January 11, 2023, 07:58:16 PM
Casinos is a business and when someone eats big money from the casino's pocket, they find all possible ways not to give the winning fund. This is what happening with majority of such accusations where the winning amount isn't settled. We can just request for help and receive suggestions. For that purpose most of the time winners reach the forum.
January 11, 2023, 07:49:45 PM
I came across a topic recently now on this very thread about a casino refusing to pay a woman ber jackpot winnings of over £35.4m and if you'll agree me that, this isn't a little sum of money to just ignore.
What got me worried isn't just the winning but why are casinos getting away without paying players their exactly winnings with some shitty excuses ?
Link to the post of the woman's winnings below
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/woman-won-43million-but-was-offered-a-steak-dinner-instead-of-her-winnings-5433888
Please I really want to understand this question and will be glad to hear from people
What got me worried isn't just the winning but why are casinos getting away without paying players their exactly winnings with some shitty excuses ?
Link to the post of the woman's winnings below
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/woman-won-43million-but-was-offered-a-steak-dinner-instead-of-her-winnings-5433888
Please I really want to understand this question and will be glad to hear from people
A thread? Or you mean trend? Maybe the reason why they came up with that situation is they cannot pay that huge amount of money won by their player. And if that case maybe this indicates that we need to pull out our money there since if they can't pay other peoples winning then provably it will happen to us or more worse they don't have a plan since in the first place their target is to scam their users once they accumulate huge deposits in their casino.
January 11, 2023, 07:45:28 PM
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Becoming a trend? Like what other case? That story you are referring to was an isolated case.
We also don't know the whole side of the story as that case was verified by the Gambling Commission itself and was properly settled at the court trial.
Maybe you are just overthinking too much. Dream first to win big instead of worrying about that.
January 11, 2023, 07:40:14 PM
You're standing in front of a machine, it won't pay, someone comes over and says it was malfunctioning.
I don't know what you could do in those situations really.
From a gambler's perspective, this is outrageous and very disheartening, and very cruel on the part of the casino, they just want your money because they should test all their machine in the first place before allowing people to playI don't know what you could do in those situations really.
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This kinda defeats the whole point of gambling, unless the main point is really just something else and the big wins are just a distraction...
The one thing that kills a gambler's hope is something like this, the machine showed you won the amount but in reality, you're not, based on the article there's an out-of-court settlement, but still, people should stay away from that kind of casino.
January 11, 2023, 06:40:39 PM
You're standing in front of a machine, it won't pay, someone comes over and says it was malfunctioning.
I don't know what you could do in those situations really.
This kinda defeats the whole point of gambling, unless the main point is really just something else and the big wins are just a distraction...
I don't know what you could do in those situations really.
This kinda defeats the whole point of gambling, unless the main point is really just something else and the big wins are just a distraction...
January 11, 2023, 06:39:19 PM
I came across a topic recently now on this very thread about a casino refusing to pay a woman ber jackpot winnings of over £35.4m and if you'll agree me that, this isn't a little sum of money to just ignore.
What got me worried isn't just the winning but why are casinos getting away without paying players their exactly winnings with some shitty excuses ?
Link to the post of the woman's winnings below
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/woman-won-43million-but-was-offered-a-steak-dinner-instead-of-her-winnings-5433888
Please I really want to understand this question and will be glad to hear from people
What got me worried isn't just the winning but why are casinos getting away without paying players their exactly winnings with some shitty excuses ?
Link to the post of the woman's winnings below
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/woman-won-43million-but-was-offered-a-steak-dinner-instead-of-her-winnings-5433888
Please I really want to understand this question and will be glad to hear from people
If you checked the article and the flow of discussion, the casino declined the payment because the machine malfunctioned
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The New York State Gaming Commission said Bookman’s machine had malfunctioned, and that she'd actually won just $2.25 (£1.86).
The machine had a disclaimer stating 'malfunctions void all pays and plays', and as a result the commission said that they were required by law to give Bookman only what she'd actually won.
I agree that the woman deserves more than $2.25 because they allow him to use the machine in the first place, and he is like all the other gamblers hoping to win the jackpot, people will not trust slots machines because they are not guaranteeing that you can win what is shown in the machine, you can play and when it is shown that you lose, you will think that you won because the machine could be malfunctioning slot machine players will always have doubts. The machine had a disclaimer stating 'malfunctions void all pays and plays', and as a result the commission said that they were required by law to give Bookman only what she'd actually won.
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