Casinos refusing to pay big wins has somewhat become rampant for obvious reasons. It's great for us to know which casinos are these to serve as a heads up for us to try and avoid them. If casinos don't have the money to py for wins, why should we trust them? If they're reasons are too ridiculous and unbelievable, why would we entrust that they'll honor the next big win that might occur on their platform? For all we know they are already going under and we might be in for a treat, so as early as now it's great to spot these casinos to avoid them. That $43m win from the lady is a gut-wrenching example that these casinos can just shrug off the win and even get the authorities involved to back them up. Really hard to fight these entities and all that we can do on our end is just avoid them to let them take a hit on their profits.
So if we can’t beat them, at least we can avoid them for good. Well, that is really good for us gamblers as we spend money and end up losing most of the time so when we become lucky and get the chance to win, we will grab for it and once the casino refuse to pay, then let the court decide for them. But it’s better if we can find earlier those reputable and non-reputable casinos as we don’t have to meddle with these issues because it’s never healthy at all for our mental and emotional health. 
Topic: Why is it becoming a thread for casinos refusing paying very huge winnings? - page 2. (Read 689 times)
January 13, 2023, 06:53:58 PM
January 13, 2023, 06:40:36 PM
Before playing, gamblers must agree to the terms and conditions of the casino,
Was this the reason why she wasn't paid? According to the story? You seee, it's quite unfair when you try to paint stories the way it suits your explanations, and it's obviously different from the subject in question.
Obviously to whom? And, according to what story? It seems we have different sources of information.
A spokesperson for Resorts World, Dan Bank, told CNN: "Upon being notified of the situation, casino personnel were able to determine that the figure displayed on the penny slot was the result of an obvious malfunction" – a fact later confirmed by the New York State Gaming Commission.
"After explaining the circumstances to Ms. Bookman, we offered to pay her the correct amount that was shown on the printed ticket. Machine malfunctions are rare, and we would like to extend our apologies to Ms. Bookman for any inconvenience this may have caused."
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Do you think I'm hearing an issue like this for the first time? Oh dear, these gender-based inequality must get to stop someday -- especially when it falls into the hands of a man who thinks we had every authority to undone whatever has been done. I made the experiences crystal clear on my first post.
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I believe you're playing the gender inequality card incorrectly.
January 13, 2023, 06:33:21 PM
May be this is not the case and this time the machine malfunctioned, but I've heard stories of casinos and bookies refusing to pay winnings. Most of the time they're are accusing customers of trying to scam casino/bookie. In this particular case they're trying to blame it on a technical glitch/malfunction? Not nice.
We had been hearing the same stories over and over again and that is absurd to everyone that heard about different victim's stories about how they were defrauded or not paid of there winnings. I think the government need to sanctions casinos who are very fun of not paying customers there winnings giving various excuses about a system shutdown or malfunctioned machines that had lead to the gamblers making such a big amount of funds. The casino should have serviced there machine forward before such a winning and not to at the end deceived there customers of payment.
January 13, 2023, 05:57:42 PM
Before playing, gamblers must agree to the terms and conditions of the casino,
Was this the reason why she wasn't paid? According to the story? You seee, it's quite unfair when you try to paint stories the way it suits your explanations, and it's obviously different from the subject in question. Do you think I'm hearing an issue like this for the first time? Oh dear, these gender-based inequality must get to stop someday -- especially when it falls into the hands of a man who thinks we had every authority to undone whatever has been done. I made the experiences crystal clear on my first post.
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after you have won that amount and even took a picture of that.Based up on this situation where it has been settled based up on some people been saying about this case.
Taking up this to legal action or negotiations would really be neither be fixed up or not.This is why it is really that hard to point out on whats the truth
but it is really that suggestible that casinos should ensure their machines well and fixed most of the time.
January 13, 2023, 03:06:11 PM
There are some individuals who claimed this and I understand that it has been a bit more common in here and there, but that's more about us hearing more about it now than it happening more these days.
I think the amount of times it happened is exactly the same and has not increased at all, I think this has happened before and it has been the same amount of times, but this time around we are hearing more about it and that's a lot more important. That's why it's quite important to keep it going with the reputation topics and increasing the importance of bitcointalk, because it's not just about crypto, but it's also about keeping casinos responsible for all their actions.
I think the amount of times it happened is exactly the same and has not increased at all, I think this has happened before and it has been the same amount of times, but this time around we are hearing more about it and that's a lot more important. That's why it's quite important to keep it going with the reputation topics and increasing the importance of bitcointalk, because it's not just about crypto, but it's also about keeping casinos responsible for all their actions.
January 13, 2023, 02:39:49 PM
Before playing, gamblers must agree to the terms and conditions of the casino,
Was this the reason why she wasn't paid? According to the story? You seee, it's quite unfair when you try to paint stories the way it suits your explanations, and it's obviously different from the subject in question. Do you think I'm hearing an issue like this for the first time? Oh dear, these gender-based inequality must get to stop someday -- especially when it falls into the hands of a man who thinks we had every authority to undone whatever has been done. I made the experiences crystal clear on my first post.
Sandra 🧑🦰
January 13, 2023, 02:30:26 PM
May be this is not the case and this time the machine malfunctioned, but I've heard stories of casinos and bookies refusing to pay winnings. Most of the time they're are accusing customers of trying to scam casino/bookie. In this particular case they're trying to blame it on a technical glitch/malfunction? Not nice.
January 13, 2023, 01:49:06 PM
That's true, but the thing is woman still need money for her to file a lawsuit right? if they don't agree with each other maybe a lawsuit will be a good way, so we can which side says the truth, if the company is guilty I am sure they will stop their business just to give the woman's money if not, that woman will need to pay for the casino for causing a false accusation maybe libel. We really need a casino who has integrity over the money they will get from running casinos.
The woman should consult her legal experts before going to court, she should make sure that the evidence she has will win the lawsuit so that there is no risk of a counterclaim for defamation. But I'm sure the company has anticipated preventing the case from going to court, they will negotiate to pay the woman even if it doesn't match the winning amount or maybe tens of thousands of dollars to cover the case. 
January 13, 2023, 01:38:21 PM
Some gambling site may not be able to afford that amount of money even if they want to sell their gambling company. Some may want to try and pay lower amount and see if it would work.
That amount is huge and it the best is for it to lead to lawsuit. If the casino can not pay, they will give the woman a better offer in a way the money will still be huge but not up to the amount won, but if the woman do not agree, it will lead to a court case. The woman would win as long as he has been abiding the gambling site rules and something good will come out of it.
That's true, but the thing is woman still need money for her to file a lawsuit right? if they don't agree with each other maybe a lawsuit will be a good way, so we can which side says the truth, if the company is guilty I am sure they will stop their business just to give the woman's money if not, that woman will need to pay for the casino for causing a false accusation maybe libel. We really need a casino who has integrity over the money they will get from running casinos. That amount is huge and it the best is for it to lead to lawsuit. If the casino can not pay, they will give the woman a better offer in a way the money will still be huge but not up to the amount won, but if the woman do not agree, it will lead to a court case. The woman would win as long as he has been abiding the gambling site rules and something good will come out of it.
Hiring a lawyer that will handle case like this will be expensive since he will be the one who will file the case against the casino and also there’s no hard evidence that the woman win the jackpot price while the machine is not malfunctioning that time. This will take a lot of time and money for the woman to win the case and there’s no guarantee for it. This is what makes the casino confident since they can always do a settlement with lower price once the woman side is near to win the case.
The only way for the woman to win this without spending too much money is too finds a law firm that do a pro bono case to intimidate the casino to settle him early.
January 13, 2023, 01:31:22 PM
Some gambling site may not be able to afford that amount of money even if they want to sell their gambling company. Some may want to try and pay lower amount and see if it would work.
That amount is huge and it the best is for it to lead to lawsuit. If the casino can not pay, they will give the woman a better offer in a way the money will still be huge but not up to the amount won, but if the woman do not agree, it will lead to a court case. The woman would win as long as he has been abiding the gambling site rules and something good will come out of it.
That's true, but the thing is woman still need money for her to file a lawsuit right? if they don't agree with each other maybe a lawsuit will be a good way, so we can which side says the truth, if the company is guilty I am sure they will stop their business just to give the woman's money if not, that woman will need to pay for the casino for causing a false accusation maybe libel. We really need a casino who has integrity over the money they will get from running casinos. That amount is huge and it the best is for it to lead to lawsuit. If the casino can not pay, they will give the woman a better offer in a way the money will still be huge but not up to the amount won, but if the woman do not agree, it will lead to a court case. The woman would win as long as he has been abiding the gambling site rules and something good will come out of it.
January 13, 2023, 01:19:12 PM
Before playing, gamblers must agree to the terms and conditions of the casino, which may include limits on winnings or restrictions on certain games or bets. If a player breaks these terms, the casino may not pay out the winnings. The casino wants to ensure that the win is valid and that the player has not violated any rules before paying out a large amount of money. Also, some casinos may be hesitant to hand over big payouts because they're afraid the winner might be a cheater.
Realistic expectations, strict but fair rules, and careful security procedures - this is what online casinos must provide if they want to remain popular. As we have seen, this is a delicate balance to maintain, but most reputable casinos are more than willing to meet the challenge.
Realistic expectations, strict but fair rules, and careful security procedures - this is what online casinos must provide if they want to remain popular. As we have seen, this is a delicate balance to maintain, but most reputable casinos are more than willing to meet the challenge.
January 13, 2023, 12:43:16 PM
The answer, they cannot afford to give that money easily that's time they make a lot of agreements with the players and sometimes make another reason so they cant claim the prize, but if the gambling casino is already reputable and one of the known for sure they will process those but of course still they need to comply with the KYC its a large amount of money so KYC sure is a must or having a cut with a different portion with those withdrawals.
Most definitely the reason for small-time casinos but if funding problems were the case in the first place, I don't see why they wouldn't just outrightly tell the winning customer that they'd pay him/her at a later time or maybe in installments, to at least save their reputation and a court case? I think it's all about integrity here, as a Casino, they had all the power to control whether they could pay the winner or not, with all the abilities and capabilities out there there's just no sense in not paying the customer other than they're just trying to rip them off. I can see reputable sites doing this, but as for the others, not so much. Which is why it's always best to have a trusted casino rather than jumping from one to another, saves you all the trouble in the long run. 
January 13, 2023, 12:35:56 PM
This is like a last line of defense for the casino and allows them to use the malfunction card whenever they feel like it. You won to much? It was malfunction and we won't pay you. You saw the sign before you started playing! How can the player know if the machine is damaged before playing? If it eats the money and doesn't show any win it's fine, but if it shows a win, the casino will claim malfunction.
Imagine if you had the same thing written on any electric appliance. We aren't responsible for any damage caused by malfunctioning equipment. Your dishwasher breaks your dishes? Should have never bought it! Your pressure cooker blows up in your face? Malfunctions happen, we're not responsible. This is a bunch of bullshit.
They usually use those "trap" cards or reasonings just to avoid paying the eligible amount of their players. That's the logic there, they should have shut down any of those machines if they were malfunctioning. But not, I think it's sort of a modus operandi on their end and they've been doing that reasoning and flipping the trap cards for the poor players that should have won whatever is indicated on those screens. Imagine if you had the same thing written on any electric appliance. We aren't responsible for any damage caused by malfunctioning equipment. Your dishwasher breaks your dishes? Should have never bought it! Your pressure cooker blows up in your face? Malfunctions happen, we're not responsible. This is a bunch of bullshit.
January 13, 2023, 12:25:59 PM
What got me worried isn't just the winning but to know why casinos are getting away without paying players their exactly winnings with some shitty excuses ?
Since you've seen this happening it now a call for you and every other gambler to have a second look on the kind of casino they make use of, go for their reputation and not their bonus or unrealistic promises they proclaim, research well and discover one, I don't also think if this is common or applicable to other casinos provided that you don't break their rules and the casino you are using is trusted not to be a scam one.
There are some casinos that make bonuses and reward promise that they can't even afford just to attract more players. These casinos should be avoided especially those that offer rewards that are too good to be true. In choosing casinos, we should not focus on the bonuses that they offer but also on the type of service and reputation that they have.
January 13, 2023, 12:20:43 PM
I totally disagree with you on this statement, because take a look at the image below. It wasn't stated that the machine malfunctioned. But rather what was written there was that if the machine was malfunction, then it will void all play and pay, as stated below..
"Must be 18yrs older to play"
"Malfunction voids all pay and play"
But the question now is, why allow users use the slot machine if truly it was malfunctioned? Because for the fact that users were allowed to use it, means they deserves their due rewards
"Must be 18yrs older to play"
"Malfunction voids all pay and play"
But the question now is, why allow users use the slot machine if truly it was malfunctioned? Because for the fact that users were allowed to use it, means they deserves their due rewards
This is like a last line of defense for the casino and allows them to use the malfunction card whenever they feel like it. You won to much? It was malfunction and we won't pay you. You saw the sign before you started playing! How can the player know if the machine is damaged before playing? If it eats the money and doesn't show any win it's fine, but if it shows a win, the casino will claim malfunction.
Imagine if you had the same thing written on any electric appliance. We aren't responsible for any damage caused by malfunctioning equipment. Your dishwasher breaks your dishes? Should have never bought it! Your pressure cooker blows up in your face? Malfunctions happen, we're not responsible. This is a bunch of bullshit.
January 13, 2023, 11:54:00 AM
I came across a topic recently now of this very thread about a casino refusing to pay a woman her jackpot winnings of over £35.4m and if you'll all agree with me that, this isn't a little sum of money to just ignore.
What got me worried isn't just the winning but to know why casinos are getting away without paying players their exactly winnings with some shitty excuses ?
Please I really want to understand this question and will be glad to hear from people
All that casino fails to give large rewards should be identified. If there is multiple complaints against any casino, then we should make a list of such casinos. Because from there, others can be deceived. When a gambler face such a situation after rewarding in a big, the gambler can no longer be normal. This phenomenon was completely made intentionally for not paying the woman. The excuses shown in it are completely false. All these dishonest casinos must be eliminated from the good ranked list otherwise such events may happen further. This is not a small crime that deserves to forgive. If the woman wanted to take action, It would have been better for everyone. It is necessary to take care of such activities so that no one can be encouraged. What got me worried isn't just the winning but to know why casinos are getting away without paying players their exactly winnings with some shitty excuses ?
Please I really want to understand this question and will be glad to hear from people
January 13, 2023, 11:23:29 AM
What got me worried isn't just the winning but to know why casinos are getting away without paying players their exactly winnings with some shitty excuses ?
Since you've seen this happening it now a call for you and every other gambler to have a second look on the kind of casino they make use of, go for their reputation and not their bonus or unrealistic promises they proclaim, research well and discover one, I don't also think if this is common or applicable to other casinos provided that you don't break their rules and the casino you are using is trusted not to be a scam one.
January 13, 2023, 11:05:46 AM
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What got me worried isn't just the winning but to know why casinos are getting away without paying players their exactly winnings with some shitty excuses ?
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What got me worried isn't just the winning but to know why casinos are getting away without paying players their exactly winnings with some shitty excuses ?
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You see that thread that you reference and say "ooh, how unfair" and then you should have commented right there ( thread).
Anyway,
Casinos have a gray area and, like any other business, they rely on it to "try" to take advantage. And yes! Obviously there are cases that are a true nightmare but the law has dismissed the cases where the user is not favored, nothing to do but fortunately there are more positive than negative cases.
Casino doesn't have to pay grandmother $41M jackpot: 'I was hoping to help my children'
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/breaking/chi-iowa-casino-error-20150424-story.html
By the way another example, but that does not indicate that casinos do not pay by cheaters. In any case, when that happens, the law is the great culprit. I mean we are talking about offline casinos, right?
January 13, 2023, 10:43:05 AM
I came across a topic recently now of this very thread about a casino refusing to pay a woman her jackpot winnings of over £35.4m and if you'll all agree with me that, this isn't a little sum of money to just ignore.
What got me worried isn't just the winning but to know why casinos are getting away without paying players their exactly winnings with some shitty excuses ?
Link to the post of the woman's winnings below
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/woman-won-43million-but-was-offered-a-steak-dinner-instead-of-her-winnings-5433888
Please I really want to understand this question and will be glad to hear from people
There are excuses that are backed up and supported by evidenced and official gambling regulators. From what I've read, in this case the "malfunction" issue of the machine is verified by the regulator. However, were there any evidences, like machine logs that the casino and/or the regulator shown to the public? What got me worried isn't just the winning but to know why casinos are getting away without paying players their exactly winnings with some shitty excuses ?
Link to the post of the woman's winnings below
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/woman-won-43million-but-was-offered-a-steak-dinner-instead-of-her-winnings-5433888
Please I really want to understand this question and will be glad to hear from people
This kind of excuse is normal, I'm just not quite sure about the ratio of those casino that presented real evidences.
I enjoy gambling, but things like this sometimes makes me step back as I feel the casino might cheat over me.
January 13, 2023, 10:07:35 AM
Link to the post of the woman's winnings below
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/woman-won-43million-but-was-offered-a-steak-dinner-instead-of-her-winnings-5433888
Please I really want to understand this question and will be glad to hear from people.
Katrina win and on the part of the casino not paying katrina win it has become popular news today among the land casino gambling industry.https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/woman-won-43million-but-was-offered-a-steak-dinner-instead-of-her-winnings-5433888
Please I really want to understand this question and will be glad to hear from people.
As is currently the case.
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Katrina Bookman thought she won $43 million on a slot machine, but the Casino had other ideas.
If you want to know more and more details and some good reasons from Katrina or the casino you can watch live here: https://youtu.be/pS4nxTGiZSo
I'm very sure, after you watch the video, all your doubts and questions can be answered, this video can help you, rather than members here, because you can hear directly from related parties.
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