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legendary
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What got me worried isn't just the winning but to know why casinos are getting away without paying players their exactly winnings with some shitty excuses ?

They aren't getting away that easily. They have won the law that's why they end up winning the case.

Maybe on other stories, there are shitty ones with shitty excuses but on that story you mentioned, the case has been solved in a legal way.

In the meantime, you have to take it with a grain of salt and hope that you won't end up in that particular situation.
How nice if you would really be that someone do able to hit up some lottery jackpot but its not good to make yourself get involved on not on being paid which we know that it is really that an unfortunate condition.

Its true that the ones who could really be able to have the advantage are to those ones who do have the money or capability on turning the tables and since you are just an individual whose trying out to
take some fight with a huge company then chances might be slim but if evidences are clear and precise then it would be an another story.
Its just dumb for a company to make excuses even if the proofs are solid enough.

You have a point though depending on the given situation. On that news shared by OP, it's clear that everything was proven as malfunctioning.

The case undergoes a trial and surely, everyone does have an eye on the issue and follows the case.

When the result favored the casino, there was no mention in the news if there was a counter-complaint by some high officials or some concerned citizens who question and doubt the integrity of the result being rewarded by the court.

Again, we don't know the whole side of the story that's why we end up in different speculations. Obviously, what the casino did on that news is truly a sh*t but it was being investigated seriously by the gambling commission who handles the jurisdiction of that involved casino.

Hopefully, all cases related to that will be handled properly, and not the way that there's an obvious sh*t currently happening on the case.
legendary
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The answer, they cannot afford to give that money easily that's time they make a lot of agreements with the players and sometimes make another reason so they cant claim the prize, but if the gambling casino is already reputable and one of the known for sure they will process those but of course still they need to comply with the KYC its a large amount of money so KYC sure is a must or having a cut with a different portion with those withdrawals.
Well if that's the case "cannot afford in one full payment" then a payment plan should be offered. Not run away from it by telling other reasons like the machine malfunctioning or whatever fabricated explanation they have. I am sure the customer will still take it because that is still money although it will be received partially.
If I am on that kind of deal then I will take it without a doubt as long as the payment will be completed while I am alive or if not, my kin will receive them written in the contract just to be safe because there's a chance they will clean up their mess in an evil way. Call me crazy but it's possible.
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Its just dumb for a company to make excuses even if the proofs are solid enough.

But there's no solid proof that the casino cheated on the story. I doubt the casino involved can influence or bribe the officials of the New York State Gaming Commission which is the higher authority of the gambling industry there. Maybe the machine really got malfunctioned as it was verified by the Commission.

Although on the other hand, the Commission should give a big punishment to the casino involved as to why they allow such machines to be operated.

And for women's satisfaction and a form of appreciation that she understands well the case, the casino should at least give a small but solid reward to the women for the mistakes they did because, after all, they are the ones to blame for why that machine got there.
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The answer, they cannot afford to give that money easily that's time they make a lot of agreements with the players and sometimes make another reason so they cant claim the prize, but if the gambling casino is already reputable and one of the known for sure they will process those but of course still they need to comply with the KYC its a large amount of money so KYC sure is a must or having a cut with a different portion with those withdrawals.
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I came across a topic recently now of this very thread about a casino refusing to pay a woman her jackpot winnings of over £35.4m and if you'll all agree with me that, this isn't a little sum of money to just ignore.

What got me worried isn't just the winning but to know why casinos are getting away without paying players their exactly winnings with some shitty excuses ?

Link to the post of the woman's winnings below
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/woman-won-43million-but-was-offered-a-steak-dinner-instead-of-her-winnings-5433888
Please I really want to understand this question and will be glad to hear from people

The excuse by the casino maybe real but it doesn't mean they can ignore her winnings or atleast she should be paid a compensation like 50% if the casino proves the malfunctioning but that is what the casino do when there is some unexpected won came for an individual and the casino may bankrupt if they pay that amount.

Taking it to the legal action maybe the appropriate and every casino is somewhat regulated by the government so they should obey what laws tell them to do at certain situations.

However not every casino has such kind of shady activity, we can also read many article lottery company delivered millions of dollars to the actual winners even if they forgot about the ticket they bought and forgot to acknowledge they are the winners.
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I came across a topic recently now of this very thread about a casino refusing to pay a woman her jackpot winnings of over £35.4m and if you'll all agree with me that, this isn't a little sum of money to just ignore.

What got me worried isn't just the winning but to know why casinos are getting away without paying players their exactly winnings with some shitty excuses ?

Link to the post of the woman's winnings below
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/woman-won-43million-but-was-offered-a-steak-dinner-instead-of-her-winnings-5433888
Please I really want to understand this question and will be glad to hear from people


Well, filling a case is not gonna be an easy journey to win it, especially when you're against someone who's business are still running while you two are on the court for the hearing and you're compromising your business/job for living for that specific day. Of course money will take a huge play in situation like this. The complainant may exhaust all his resources with all the hearings that you needed to attend, otherwise the case will drop.
Another thing is, it's a lot cheaper for the casino to just pay and bribe the authorities than paying the whole winning amount to the winner.
What you have explained is the reason why online companies are doing the way they like most times, and that is why I only like to work with companies that are truly regulated. If they are, you will start the complaint from the regulator, it's when they did not act that you proceed to court. And one thing you missed is that it's not all lawyers that are collecting money for cases, they might collect a percentage if the case is successful, but you would pay for filing.

You might also pray the court to sanction the company monetarily in your favour to cater for the needless energy and time wasted if they are eventually found guilty. Sincerely, the stress might not be worth all that if the money in question is small but would be if the money is reasonable enough.
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It was stated that the machine malfunctioned and isn't there a claim ticket that states that the actual winnings is  $2.25 (£1.86).  The woman did not refute the decision of the casino which means it is highly possible that the malfunction is correct.  A lawsuit case comes after a year the incident which I think someone had given the woman an idea to chase the winnings.  Besides the  New York State Gaming Commission also stated that the machine malfunctioned.
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A spokesperson for Resorts World, Dan Bank, told CNN: “Upon being notified of the situation, casino personnel were able to determine that the figure displayed on the penny slot was the result of an obvious malfunction – a fact later confirmed by the New York State Gaming Commission.

But of course, we never know the truth if it really malfunctioned or if someone got paid to declare the machine malfunctioned.  But I will

But if the machine malfunctioned and if the winner won $1 million or very large amount of money but instead the machine stated that she lost her money, they will not tell her anything but she will lose instead.

   -   We just don't know if the gambling owner of the gambling website platform is telling the truth. Because no matter where I look, I can't help but think that Gambling platforms don't want to pay. In addition to that, of course, if I were the gambler, I would also ask for help from a lawyer because I know if I'm in the right place to fight for my rights.

But anyway, based on the article, the gambling team is laughing that the machine is malfunctioning, even though it's obvious that it's not. Then they will say that when that happened. What if the gamblers also lost millions on their machines?
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I came across a topic recently now of this very thread about a casino refusing to pay a woman her jackpot winnings of over £35.4m and if you'll all agree with me that, this isn't a little sum of money to just ignore.

What got me worried isn't just the winning but to know why casinos are getting away without paying players their exactly winnings with some shitty excuses ?

Link to the post of the woman's winnings below
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/woman-won-43million-but-was-offered-a-steak-dinner-instead-of-her-winnings-5433888
Please I really want to understand this question and will be glad to hear from people


Well, filling a case is not gonna be an easy journey to win it, especially when you're against someone who's business are still running while you two are on the court for the hearing and you're compromising your business/job for living for that specific day. Of course money will take a huge play in situation like this. The complainant may exhaust all his resources with all the hearings that you needed to attend, otherwise the case will drop.
Another thing is, it's a lot cheaper for the casino to just pay and bribe the authorities than paying the whole winning amount to the winner.
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What got me worried isn't just the winning but to know why casinos are getting away without paying players their exactly winnings with some shitty excuses ?
The comparison with players who can withdrawal money from big winnings is much bigger so the worry is unfounded and this case occurs at landbase casinos which are much more regulated than online casinos so if you don't want to experience this, ignore the casinos that have been involved, especially if can't solve the case properly and only choose trusted casinos
Choosing a trusted casino is a must for every gambler to avoid problems that can arise later.
If gamblers do not carefully choose their casino by not doing research, they can end up with untrusted casinos, which can turn into casinos that scam them.
Of course, they want to avoid that happening so they have to be really selective in choosing a casino.
If gamblers can get a trusted casino from this forum by reading the many ratings other members have given, they will not choose the wrong casino.
And later, if they win, the casino will pay the winning money without asking the winner to do anything.
That's right fraud and double crossing Is happening everywhere in this world not just any casino , we have been reading about this story now of a women who was double crossed by casino so the only solution we have is go for a trusted and licensed casino .
And before gambling go through the rules and directions of that casino for once .
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What got me worried isn't just the winning but to know why casinos are getting away without paying players their exactly winnings with some shitty excuses ?
The comparison with players who can withdrawal money from big winnings is much bigger so the worry is unfounded and this case occurs at landbase casinos which are much more regulated than online casinos so if you don't want to experience this, ignore the casinos that have been involved, especially if can't solve the case properly and only choose trusted casinos
Choosing a trusted casino is a must for every gambler to avoid problems that can arise later.
If gamblers do not carefully choose their casino by not doing research, they can end up with untrusted casinos, which can turn into casinos that scam them.
Of course, they want to avoid that happening so they have to be really selective in choosing a casino.
If gamblers can get a trusted casino from this forum by reading the many ratings other members have given, they will not choose the wrong casino.
And later, if they win, the casino will pay the winning money without asking the winner to do anything.
legendary
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What got me worried isn't just the winning but to know why casinos are getting away without paying players their exactly winnings with some shitty excuses ?
The comparison with players who can withdrawal money from big winnings is much bigger so the worry is unfounded and this case occurs at landbase casinos which are much more regulated than online casinos so if you don't want to experience this, ignore the casinos that have been involved, especially if can't solve the case properly and only choose trusted casinos
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We do not have all the information, but we have to understand that gambling occur on digital platforms and that glitches might happen.

Let's take an example : You play a Slot with a Maximum payout of 30 000x and a maximum bet amount of $10.... so the maximum payout should be $300 000 ....but when you win with a glitch, it says $40 000 000 .....so in this case, the casino has a valid reason not to honor the payout, because it is way more than the maximum payout that this Slot can pay.

So some casinos are just looking for a reason not to pay.... and that is sad. (Mostly using the KYC or ToS to their advantage)  Roll Eyes

KYC is being used nowadays as an excuse not to pass on the winnings, but this excuse will not stand in court. But I agree with you on the machine malfunction part. It is impossible to win $40 million with a slot machine, as the maximum winning would be much smaller. But then, the casino handled this issue in a very unprofessional manner. They should have immediately informed the player rather than making her wait for an entire day after giving an impression that she won a very big reward. Also, they refused to settle it out of court.
seemingly that everyone here believes that it is malfunction ? (not counting those who does not truly understand Slot machine and still buy the Idea that this is a scam from casino) if this is at least 6 figures win? yeah I will trust this to happen but giving that it is about 40 million more? then I don't take this to be a legit win.
~snip~

 "Must be 18yrs older to play"
 "Malfunction voids all pay and play"

But the question now is, why allow users use the slot machine if truly it was malfunctioned? Because for the fact that users were allowed to use it, means they deserves their due rewards

Exactly.

How is malfunction proven?, can casinos basically say that any big jackpot is malfunction and get away with it?

This is madness really. If this is the case, then there's no point in gambling.
that is something to be answered perfectly , because why let that machine sit there knowing that it has an issue? or maybe they don't know that it has trouble till the bet happens.
legendary
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We do not have all the information, but we have to understand that gambling occur on digital platforms and that glitches might happen.

Let's take an example : You play a Slot with a Maximum payout of 30 000x and a maximum bet amount of $10.... so the maximum payout should be $300 000 ....but when you win with a glitch, it says $40 000 000 .....so in this case, the casino has a valid reason not to honor the payout, because it is way more than the maximum payout that this Slot can pay.

So some casinos are just looking for a reason not to pay.... and that is sad. (Mostly using the KYC or ToS to their advantage)  Roll Eyes

KYC is being used nowadays as an excuse not to pass on the winnings, but this excuse will not stand in court. But I agree with you on the machine malfunction part. It is impossible to win $40 million with a slot machine, as the maximum winning would be much smaller. But then, the casino handled this issue in a very unprofessional manner. They should have immediately informed the player rather than making her wait for an entire day after giving an impression that she won a very big reward. Also, they refused to settle it out of court.
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Is this really a trend? Could you provide us all the links to other similar news to say that this is becoming a troubling trend?

No, it's not a trend. Just because there have been some cases does not mean that it is. Surely the OP has also seen some cases on Scam Accusations, but not all of them by far are the result of casino wrongdoing. It's not uncommon to find out in one of those accusations, that the accuser was actually a cheater who got caught.

Yes, I know this isn't a thread. But I honestly find it troubling even if the one accusing the casino is a cheater when the cheating was only raised by the casino when the cheater won the jackpot. In this case, it is like both are cheaters and the casino is the better cheater.

I think there have already been cases when big jackpots are not paid by the casinos because the player was violating something in their ToS. But all those times when the player was spending big money and losing, his attention wasn't called.

It seems many casinos are getting into fault finding when somebody is already winning big.
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What got me worried isn't just the winning but to know why casinos are getting away without paying players their exactly winnings with some shitty excuses ?

They aren't getting away that easily. They have won the law that's why they end up winning the case.

Maybe on other stories, there are shitty ones with shitty excuses but on that story you mentioned, the case has been solved in a legal way.

In the meantime, you have to take it with a grain of salt and hope that you won't end up in that particular situation.
How nice if you would really be that someone do able to hit up some lottery jackpot but its not good to make yourself get involved on not on being paid which we know that it is really that an unfortunate condition.

Its true that the ones who could really be able to have the advantage are to those ones who do have the money or capability on turning the tables and since you are just an individual whose trying out to
take some fight with a huge company then chances might be slim but if evidences are clear and precise then it would be an another story.
Its just dumb for a company to make excuses even if the proofs are solid enough.
legendary
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What got me worried isn't just the winning but to know why casinos are getting away without paying players their exactly winnings with some shitty excuses ?

They aren't getting away that easily. They have won the law that's why they end up winning the case.

Maybe on other stories, there are shitty ones with shitty excuses but on that story you mentioned, the case has been solved in a legal way.

In the meantime, you have to take it with a grain of salt and hope that you won't end up in that particular situation.
legendary
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I came across a topic recently now of this very thread about a casino refusing to pay a woman her jackpot winnings of over £35.4m and if you'll all agree with me that, this isn't a little sum of money to just ignore.

What got me worried isn't just the winning but to know why casinos are getting away without paying players their exactly winnings with some shitty excuses ?

Link to the post of the woman's winnings below
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/woman-won-43million-but-was-offered-a-steak-dinner-instead-of-her-winnings-5433888
Please I really want to understand this question and will be glad to hear from people


I have heard several accusations by gamblers that some casino firms refused to pay them after winning thier games. Sometimes when you investigate the matter, it might turn out that these gamblers violated some of the terms of service because they have refused to study or read them. I think it is important to study the TOS of every casino company before using them because some of them have some polices that are unreasonable and unjust.

Most casinos that deny gambles thier wins lack integrity. They don't care about thier goodwill because such occurrence would definitely tarnish thier image. Another reason might be that most of these casinos are badly managed.  They might not have the funds to pay for such wins because the business is not well managed. I would always advice that gamblers should do a reliability check on casinos and only use renowned and reliable ones. Gambling firms in this forum have proved to be dependable for a longtime, so betting with them would be one of the best options.
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This same shit doesn't help anyways....
Cus they feel a woman doesn't know the value of an asset?? They feel every woman isn't worth getting in participation with the rules and etiquettes of whatsoever, successfully.
Gambling isn't gender biased; AFAIK, we haven't had any rules supporting that on a contrary , do we?? It seems that anyone could Just get on 'em and pull a few stunt, just to deprive 'em of their right -- remember that she's wagered with her hard-earned cash -- nobody cared about the fact that she was a woman when she came for the bookings -- JUSTICE SHOULD BE TAKEN
This sometimes makes me develop some kinda inferiority complex.

Sandra 🧑‍🦰
I believe that the refusal of the casino doesn't have any connection on the gender of the winner. If the winner is a man will the casino refuse to pay the millions that is a potential loss for them given that they have a machine that made an error that make them pay millions. We all believe gender isn't an issue on gambling industry and we can see on how different genders dominate gambling games over years. It's just it is more common to see a man playing on a casino than women or other gender in a casino. Man usually likes to chase the thrill and adrenaline rush we want and some of us finds it on playing on a casino.
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~snip~

 "Must be 18yrs older to play"
 "Malfunction voids all pay and play"

But the question now is, why allow users use the slot machine if truly it was malfunctioned? Because for the fact that users were allowed to use it, means they deserves their due rewards

Exactly.

How is malfunction proven?, can casinos basically say that any big jackpot is malfunction and get away with it?

This is madness really. If this is the case, then there's no point in gambling.
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This same shit doesn't help anyways....
Cus they feel a woman doesn't know the value of an asset?? They feel every woman isn't worth getting in participation with the rules and etiquettes of whatsoever, successfully.
Gambling isn't gender biased; AFAIK, we haven't had any rules supporting that on a contrary , do we?? It seems that anyone could Just get on 'em and pull a few stunt, just to deprive 'em of their right -- remember that she's wagered with her hard-earned cash -- nobody cared about the fact that she was a woman when she came for the bookings -- JUSTICE SHOULD BE TAKEN
This sometimes makes me develop some kinda inferiority complex.

Sandra 🧑‍🦰
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