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The Ukraine-NATO thing might have been put on hold. Promised funds from the US are dwindling. Armament transfer is slowing down. Americans are waking up to the Joe and Hunter Ukraine money laundering schemes, and to the fact that the US built up 46 Wuhan-style labs in the Ukraine. Many Americans are scared of the Russian Satan nuclear missiles. Biden's popularity is way down.

As long as it looks like the US is separating ties with Ukraine like this, why would Russia even want to do a full scale war?

Cool
Russia has proved to the world - they are very important, and they can affect world's economy.
The world cannot process with the oil and gas. USA has played a very horrible game in all this situation. They also have wanted the EU to do as they like and brough so much trouble to the world already.
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Russia could have easily overthrown the Ukraine a decade ago. But they didn't, because that's not the way they are doing things any longer. It's the US and Western Europe that are responsible for the troubles. Russia is simply protecting national security. The best defense is a good offense. Ukraine is simple the playing field for the war between the US and Russia... partly because Zelensky was stupid enough to involve the US in Ukraine/Russia affairs.

Cool
Russia is already the most discussed country - the impact Russia has made is very strong.
Already there is so much damage done to Ukraine. The things are already out of control. .

When you get right down to the basics of this war, the reason why Russia isn't doing an all-out war against Ukraine is because, the US isn't pushing them into it as hard as they were before.

The Ukraine-NATO thing might have been put on hold. Promised funds from the US are dwindling. Armament transfer is slowing down. Americans are waking up to the Joe and Hunter Ukraine money laundering schemes, and to the fact that the US built up 46 Wuhan-style labs in the Ukraine. Many Americans are scared of the Russian Satan nuclear missiles. Biden's popularity is way down.

As long as it looks like the US is separating ties with Ukraine like this, why would Russia even want to do a full scale war?

Cool
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Russia could have easily overthrown the Ukraine a decade ago. But they didn't, because that's not the way they are doing things any longer. It's the US and Western Europe that are responsible for the troubles. Russia is simply protecting national security. The best defense is a good offense. Ukraine is simple the playing field for the war between the US and Russia... partly because Zelensky was stupid enough to involve the US in Ukraine/Russia affairs.

Cool
Russia is already the most discussed country - the impact Russia has made is very strong.
Already there is so much damage done to Ukraine. The things are already out of control. .
legendary
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Russia's actions are simply similar to all the worldwide police actions that the US has been doing way back to the time of the Korean War. Of course, Russia has been doing similar things as have other nations. This one is getting noticed the way it is, because of the US Government controlled media... which is lying and deceiving in all the things they are saying about this Russian police action.

Cool
Even after Russia has not used their full force - what would happen if they use their full force.
already there is so much agony there. Why are people asking to use the full force - rather ask them to ceasefire and get rid of the war.

The basic answers to your question are found here

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.60369380

and here

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.60369557

Cool
The point you have mentioned here is so true - Ukraine has become a playful slap for Russia.  And USA used them very nicely. Also EU also played the part.
And this game of tug of war has placed the whole world in so much trouble and stress. USA will not stop imposing their power on other and will keep suppressing others.


You seem to forget the part about the Ukraine "playfully" slapping Russia for all these years... like, "You gave us (Ukraine) our freedom back when the USSR collapsed. Now, we want more."

This playful slapping might have gone on back and forth for decades longer, if the US and other countries hadn't decided to take advantage of a weakened Ukraine.

Russia could have easily overthrown the Ukraine a decade ago. But they didn't, because that's not the way they are doing things any longer. It's the US and Western Europe that are responsible for the troubles. Russia is simply protecting national security. The best defense is a good offense. Ukraine is simple the playing field for the war between the US and Russia... partly because Zelensky was stupid enough to involve the US in Ukraine/Russia affairs.

Cool
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Activity: 1050
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Russia's actions are simply similar to all the worldwide police actions that the US has been doing way back to the time of the Korean War. Of course, Russia has been doing similar things as have other nations. This one is getting noticed the way it is, because of the US Government controlled media... which is lying and deceiving in all the things they are saying about this Russian police action.

Cool
Even after Russia has not used their full force - what would happen if they use their full force.
already there is so much agony there. Why are people asking to use the full force - rather ask them to ceasefire and get rid of the war.

The basic answers to your question are found here

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.60369380

and here

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.60369557

Cool
The point you have mentioned here is so true - Ukraine has become a playful slap for Russia.  And USA used them very nicely. Also EU also played the part.
And this game of tug of war has placed the whole world in so much trouble and stress. USA will not stop imposing their power on other and will keep suppressing others.
legendary
Activity: 3724
Merit: 1363

Russia's actions are simply similar to all the worldwide police actions that the US has been doing way back to the time of the Korean War. Of course, Russia has been doing similar things as have other nations. This one is getting noticed the way it is, because of the US Government controlled media... which is lying and deceiving in all the things they are saying about this Russian police action.

Cool
Even after Russia has not used their full force - what would happen if they use their full force.
already there is so much agony there. Why are people asking to use the full force - rather ask them to ceasefire and get rid of the war.

The basic answers to your question are found here

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.60369380

and here

https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.60369557

Cool
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Russia's actions are simply similar to all the worldwide police actions that the US has been doing way back to the time of the Korean War. Of course, Russia has been doing similar things as have other nations. This one is getting noticed the way it is, because of the US Government controlled media... which is lying and deceiving in all the things they are saying about this Russian police action.

Cool
Even after Russia has not used their full force - what would happen if they use their full force.
already there is so much agony there. Why are people asking to use the full force - rather ask them to ceasefire and get rid of the war.
legendary
Activity: 3724
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Russia was basically trying to blitzkreig into Kiev from my understanding, just like USSR modeled its finland invasion as one as well, but both of these blitzkreigs failed, and turned into savage wars lasting for several months (including winter seasons in the case of Finland).

I heard winters inside Russia/USSR were really bad, so I have no idea how the Russians will be able to cope with the extreme cold of winter when that rolls around. Maybe they will endure one or two seasons of winter, and then retreat everywhere because the losses were so heavy.

While EU stood up to support Ukraine. And Then the countries which stayed neutral. Sri lanka and Pakistan. You can see the political instability and the crisis going on there. The USA and EU wanted all the world to do what they wanted. Are they going to help these countries now which are going through economic instability? Because of Russia and Ukraine war.

Russia's actions are simply similar to all the worldwide police actions that the US has been doing way back to the time of the Korean War. Of course, Russia has been doing similar things as have other nations. This one is getting noticed the way it is, because of the US Government controlled media... which is lying and deceiving in all the things they are saying about this Russian police action.

Cool
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Russia was basically trying to blitzkreig into Kiev from my understanding, just like USSR modeled its finland invasion as one as well, but both of these blitzkreigs failed, and turned into savage wars lasting for several months (including winter seasons in the case of Finland).

I heard winters inside Russia/USSR were really bad, so I have no idea how the Russians will be able to cope with the extreme cold of winter when that rolls around. Maybe they will endure one or two seasons of winter, and then retreat everywhere because the losses were so heavy.

While EU stood up to support Ukraine. And Then the countries which stayed neutral. Sri lanka and Pakistan. You can see the political instability and the crisis going on there. The USA and EU wanted all the world to do what they wanted. Are they going to help these countries now which are going through economic instability? Because of Russia and Ukraine war.
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Russia has used it's full force against Ukraine, it is just completely incompetent and showed how its military is definitely not superpower status. The Russian air force only had success in places like Syria because they were fighting rebels, stuck in a civil war without an organized government. Russia has shown they are no match for even a semi competent military and that truly is pathetic. The military in Russia was run by corruption, just like every other part of the country, and they never thought that one day they might actually have to utilize the equipment where they skimmed that money. It is crazy how badly trained they are and there is a distinct lack of communication even between troops 20 meters apart.

Did you miss the part where they landed paratroops next to Kiev and had to retreat because they cannot control the air space? You seem oblivious to so much.

It's basically USSR vs Finland 2.0 (c.f. WWII)

No fighting morale (at that time, it was because most of the officers were purged by Stalin, I'm not sure if something similar happened in recent years inside Russia).

That basically means even if you fight numerically smaller amount of troops, your own troops can't efficiently co-ordinate their tactics and as a result get quashed individually by the highly alert and spirited Ukrainians.

Also:

Russia was basically trying to blitzkreig into Kiev from my understanding, just like USSR modeled its finland invasion as one as well, but both of these blitzkreigs failed, and turned into savage wars lasting for several months (including winter seasons in the case of Finland).

I heard winters inside Russia/USSR were really bad, so I have no idea how the Russians will be able to cope with the extreme cold of winter when that rolls around. Maybe they will endure one or two seasons of winter, and then retreat everywhere because the losses were so heavy.
legendary
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Why Russia isn't using it's full force in Ukraine ? tactically ..


I suspect that Russia sees the weakness that is Ukraine, and is letting its new recruits practice on Ukrainian soil. I mean, these new kids need to get their feet wet a little before they can go on to full scale war.



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Heard that Putin is unwell and that he is suffering from a rare cancer and his body is shaking already.
Putin must rest now and transfer the power to someone else - who really thinks that peace is possible and rather than deadlock one should go for dialogue.

These rumors have been going on for so long, that it's starting to sound like some sort of FSB fairy tale designed to make people think "hey, the guy is ill, it's not his fault that things are going bad", or "just wait a little bit more, he's gonna croak soon and everything will be fine".

I'll believe it when he's buried (or pickled next to Lenin).
Enough damage has been done to the Ukraine - and so much will happen in the coming days.
Lots and lots of damage has been done to the EU as well but Russia is still not convinced to do what the other countries want to do for them. Maybe USA thinks that Russia is Pakistan - which will do as directed.
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Thank you for your words of support! You can't imagine how painful it is to read some "justifications" of this bloody invasion, and how much it feels good to see words like yours.
I hope the world will restore peace once again. There is a dire need for the war lord and thing what they have done to the world. They have changed the face of map - It is now noticed that people don't die natural death, they die in war and attacks. This remind us of the days of the stone ages where the war lord use to build tower of skill, same thing is happening now

Back at the time of Genghis Khan, the Russian lands were ruled by the Tatars. The whole Northern Hemisphere was influenced by them, and the northern lands into Canada were ruled by them. Genghis Khan and his hordes broke them up and brought them under his rule. All they want is to get back to their former power.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tatars
https://www.worldatlas.com/articles/who-are-the-tartar-people.html

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Thank you for your words of support! You can't imagine how painful it is to read some "justifications" of this bloody invasion, and how much it feels good to see words like yours.
I hope the world will restore peace once again. There is a dire need for the war lord and thing what they have done to the world. They have changed the face of map - It is now noticed that people don't die natural death, they die in war and attacks. This remind us of the days of the stone ages where the war lord use to build tower of skill, same thing is happening now
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Stand with Ukraine
Why Russia isn't using it's full force in Ukraine ?
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A short answer is: Russia's using as much weapons and soldiers as it can afford to allocate for this war. If they will use more force they will start losing their own territories starting from Chechnya where Putin's henchmen can control the region only with the help of Russian army.
Heard that Putin is unwell and that he is suffering from a rare cancer and his body is shaking already.
Putin must rest now and transfer the power to someone else - who really thinks that peace is possible and rather than deadlock one should go for dialogue.

I think that's the main problem: he wants to be in power always, till the end of days, this demented idiot. And people around him, I mean, the inner circle, they don't mind because they have billions of US dollars for their loyalty.

~ let's take out sometime to pray for Ukraine.

Thank you for your words of support! You can't imagine how painful it is to read some "justifications" of this bloody invasion, and how much it feels good to see words like yours.
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 After invading Ukraine Putin has had shaky media appearances and has been described — with varying reliability — as suffering from everything from Parkinson's disease to dementia. These are speculation in main stream and social media (but not confirmed by any reliable source) that he is suffering from some type of cancer or Parkinson's disease but we know that truth is the first victim when war breaks out so hard to believe what is being reported.

https://www.businessinsider.com/timeline-putin-alleged-health-problems-2022-5
It was mentioned somewhere and they said Putin in not feeling well and he is unwell.
However Russia is using all its power to capture  the Eastern City. There are so many casualties  and they have been pushed back by Russian, let's take out sometime to pray for Ukraine.
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Why Russia isn't using it's full force in Ukraine ?
~

A short answer is: Russia's using as much weapons and soldiers as it can afford to allocate for this war. If they will use more force they will start losing their own territories starting from Chechnya where Putin's henchmen can control the region only with the help of Russian army.
Heard that Putin is unwell and that he is suffering from a rare cancer and his body is shaking already.
Putin must rest now and transfer the power to someone else - who really thinks that peace is possible and rather than deadlock one should go for dialogue.

 After invading Ukraine Putin has had shaky media appearances and has been described — with varying reliability — as suffering from everything from Parkinson's disease to dementia. These are speculation in main stream and social media (but not confirmed by any reliable source) that he is suffering from some type of cancer or Parkinson's disease but we know that truth is the first victim when war breaks out so hard to believe what is being reported.

https://www.businessinsider.com/timeline-putin-alleged-health-problems-2022-5
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Heard that Putin is unwell and that he is suffering from a rare cancer and his body is shaking already.
Putin must rest now and transfer the power to someone else - who really thinks that peace is possible and rather than deadlock one should go for dialogue.

These rumors have been going on for so long, that it's starting to sound like some sort of FSB fairy tale designed to make people think "hey, the guy is ill, it's not his fault that things are going bad", or "just wait a little bit more, he's gonna croak soon and everything will be fine".

I'll believe it when he's buried (or pickled next to Lenin).
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Why Russia isn't using it's full force in Ukraine ?
~

A short answer is: Russia's using as much weapons and soldiers as it can afford to allocate for this war. If they will use more force they will start losing their own territories starting from Chechnya where Putin's henchmen can control the region only with the help of Russian army.
Heard that Putin is unwell and that he is suffering from a rare cancer and his body is shaking already.
Putin must rest now and transfer the power to someone else - who really thinks that peace is possible and rather than deadlock one should go for dialogue.
legendary
Activity: 3234
Merit: 2112
Stand with Ukraine
Why Russia isn't using it's full force in Ukraine ?
~

A short answer is: Russia's using as much weapons and soldiers as it can afford to allocate for this war. If they will use more force they will start losing their own territories starting from Chechnya where Putin's henchmen can control the region only with the help of Russian army.
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