Topic: Why Russia isn't using it's full force in Ukraine ? tactically .. - page 7. (Read 1368 times)

The dog barks, the caravan moves on. Residents of the Kherson region will have a chance to express their will in a referendum. In the meantime, Ukraine has stopped paying pensions and social benefits to residents of the Kherson region, and Russia is doing this for Ukraine. And Ukraine shoots at residential areas, this is the only thing it knows how to do well.

Mariupol was not bombed, Azovstal was bombed.

Not "Kherson region", but a puppet government installed by Russians.


Except out here in the real world they bombed and shelled Mariupol for two months.

Russia is using soft power tactics to sway the sympathies of Ukrainian civilians. Therefore, the Kherson region has already announced its withdrawal from Ukraine and the desire to join Russia. Russia acts in Ukraine not as an occupier, but as a liberator. This is much more difficult and longer than bombing everything with air bombs and cleaning up the ruins. But in the long run, it's a winning strategy.

Russia should stop by now. Enough damage has been done already.
If they have not used their full force and the damage done is irreparable - What would have happen if they would have used the whole force, The earth need time to heal.

Maybe because they don't want to put too much and spent too much in this war , everyone knows that Russia is a big country but has many countries that is not in good terms or should I say they have an enemy countries such as US, they need to secure their country for having a backdoor attacks, in a war they should not give all their resources .

Maybe they finally realized that what they are doing is wrong so they aren't fighting back anymore but let Ukrainians to win the war. That is a nice thing actually but why do you want Russians to become more aggressive? I think you are out of your mind already and want this war to last longer. Do you feel good when some innocent people get injured or worst get killed? And how do you know that Russian have still lots of ammos left?

The war have run for quite sometime, so maybe they used all their ammo already and they are having a hard time of availing a new one because of they are in tight budget. You know, they are still in sanctions.

from the very beginning the reason russia was at war with ukraine was not for that. This war exists because of the Russian form of protest because Ukraine wants to join NATO. And why don't they use full force, I don't think Russia wants its military power to be known by the Natos especially the US. after all, they are also trying so that civilians are not affected by the war. that's why they use this method.

yah so.   what makes all of you think thats theres fighting in ukraine has anything to do with politics land or ideology or security?

And more important Russia (USSR) is not getting America and Geat Britain's help anymore, it's their first war when they fight alone without somebody stretching their forces on 3 fronts. And when it comes to 1:1, Russia fails miserably, that's why in their history books they go from Napoleon to Hitler, forgetting about Napoleon III, Katsura Taro, and Wilhelm II.

If everyone is asking why are they not throwing more forces in battle, look at those Pikachu faces on Russian national television:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dUlgd7HZtYU

Simple, there is nothing left to throw at, a cardboard tank that was never produced, a 17th generation fighter that can't fly, a ship that was supposed to do that and that and somehow pressed the transform to a submarine button.
Why is everyone surprised by this, remember the wars in  Chechnya?

No need to underestimate Ukraine. After Russia and Turkey, they have probably the largest and best trained Armed Forces in all of Europe (although the three months of war has wiped out a large portion of that force). And it is also not true that Russia has not used it's full force in Ukraine. Right now they have close to 150,000 troops in Ukraine, which works out to a considerable proportion of their active fighting strength. And they have suffered significant losses as well (despite using the poorly trained reserves from LNR and DNR as cannon fodder).

Because other countries will take action against them and they might lose a lot of resources if they go all in with Ukraine. Russia knows that this is a long war so technically they are preserving their army for a bigger purposes. Let’s hope that Russia will take all out against Ukraine, because for sure Ukraine can’t handle it.

If Russia fight with its complete force Ukraine will get backed by more countries, then the same might turn as a war between Russia and rest of the world. Such a situation is worse and to avoid such happening it looks like Russia have been slowly evading Ukraine. Russia needs to come to an end at the shortest than troubling the country where the citizens weren't able to move independently.

We don't know what is the exact plan of Russia, but it showed they're strong to the world. Again through the sanction they weren't down, which showed their potential to withstand the opposition of western nations.

Also, we don't know the truth about their actual weaponry. Does Russia have those resources to sustain this war? And maybe, they are not using full force because they know the world is watching, and other countries may possibly help in case the situation calls for. Anyway, we don't know the reasoning behind this, and we are only giving speculations. What we can aim for is that hopefully this war will be over soon as many lives are now being sacrificed. The longer this war will be, the more sufferance it will give to both sides, whether Russian or Ukrainian.

Because there are many fact and causes behind of this. If Rasia attack with full force in Ukraine, then other countries  will get a chance to attack Russia there is another main things that the War is very expensive so I think, Russia thinks that they are already very powerful country and Ukraine is a small weak so that can be defeated by a small attack. Even then there's is a connection of geopolitics.

Because it doesn't make sense for them to use so many resources against a country like Ukraine. It would be like killing a cockroach with a bazooka, it makes no sense.

     Probably because they are underestimating Ukraine and the tenacity of the Ukrainian people. But I don't think they would underestimate it to the point that it would make the war drag on this long. One thing I can think of would be the way they think that they should always be prepared for whatever implications their invasion on Ukraine may bring. Although it may be unlikely for the other countries to be involved to an extent of attacking Russia directly but I guess they just want to be well prepared for whatever scenario.

Well, you see - and Russia will be hysterical that it does not want to capitulate But nothing, Hitler also dreamed of a great Reich, like his pathetic parody in the Kremlin, but we know how he ended ....

Ukraine must not surrender - losing this war will be tantamount to the cessation of the existence of Ukraine, and we do not agree with this, we have plans for a long and happy life. This, in general, infuriates the crazy maniac in Moscow .. The aggressor must cease to exist, and we are striving for this. I think such a final will be supported by the majority of normal countries. Yes, I know that the price of each day is life. The lives of the defenders of Ukraine, ordinary citizens, the destruction of infrastructure. I saw who the Rashists were in Kyiv, and I saw Irpen and Bucha, what the Rashists did to them. And I don't want my country to turn into a giant common grave. Therefore, it is only necessary to win and destroy the aggressor. And I must admit that our army is doing great, even though we are not "the second most powerful army in the world" We are supported by the whole normal world, we are supported by ordinary people and governments. At the same time, we helped the world to see where the metastasis of the new Nazism had ripened, and taught us not to be afraid of the threats of a crazy fascist, who was used to lying to everyone and always. Victory will be ours !

I suspect Russia is committing as much as it can and is finding it much, much harder going than it anticipated, for example in the news today:

https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/britain-says-russias-donbas-offensive-has-lost-momentum-2022-05-15/

TL; DR: “ LONDON, May 15 (Reuters) - Russia has probably lost around a third of the ground forces it deployed to Ukraine and its offensive in the Donbas region "has lost momentum and fallen significantly behind schedule", British military intelligence said on Sunday.”

To a greater extent too I have wonder what OP said in my quiet times because Russia has been said to be in the world power ranking but they have not been able subduing Ukraine and retracing leaves more questions. Although Russia is not coming out clearly to the use of nuclear weapon but that should not be all that Russia has to go into warfare. Maybe Putin is just making his military presence felt or that is the highest they can go.

They are a lot of factors as to why Russia they are pulling back with their attacks to Ukraine. We know as much that Russia can win the war that they've started with Ukraine however I don't that this war's purpose is to mainly destroy the country or overtake it.
Clearly, they are just showing their power not to Ukraine but to the whole world in case a much more bigger conflict could occur. Also, I'm sure that there are more negotiation going on that is not being shown in the media that will provide a huge gain with Russia.