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Glad to see lost interest in this filthy communist thread
The ONLY socialism that works for the benefit of the people, is where people are free to socialize or not, based on their own, personal discretion.
So who pays your pension?..SOCIALISM ..You Americans already have socialism just you wont admit it?..
You seem to think your just a capitalist country..
In the United States, Social Security is primarily the Old-Age, Survivors, and Disability ... Income derived from Social Security is currently estimated to keep roughly 20% of all Americans, age 65
So be careful what you wish for because when you get old you will get nothing
..But i suppose you only want socialism when it suits you..Like when you get old or sick..
So i am glad your mummy and daddy helped you through your life to not need socialism
but some children's mummy and daddies are not up to scratch and that is were socialism is needed..
But i know you will be praying for socialism very soon
..When you go to confession remember to take some coins with you so you can talk to the computer vicar in the confession box..50 cents for 10 mins chat..Robot vicars
..You sound like you are downplaying freedom.
Everybody lives in socialism except for the hermit on the mountain. You know, the critter who doesn't "socialize," or partake of "society."
If I want to be the hermit on the mountain, don't stop me. If I want to limit my socialism in any other way, don't stop me. If you stop me against my will, you are using slavery. Is that what you want? Watch out. Slavery works both ways.
Once again, who would've thought, I have to agree with BADecker. Socialism is a "good" idea on paper but it's terrible in practise. And don't tell me about "real" socialism or such, because that's stupid.
What I neglected to mention is that much of socialism is informal socialism. Any two people who get together for any project, or even just to have a quick conversation, are participating in informal socialism.
People are socialistic creatures. Most don't want the hermit lifestyle. But few want to give up all their freedom. The right kind of socialism allows differences in socialistic levels for all people at the same time. The thing about this form of socialism is that it is natural, not governmentally dictated. And it shouldn't be governmentally distributed.
The ONLY socialism that works for the benefit of the people, is where people are free to socialize or not, based on their own, personal discretion.
So who pays your pension?..SOCIALISM ..You Americans already have socialism just you wont admit it?..
You seem to think your just a capitalist country..
In the United States, Social Security is primarily the Old-Age, Survivors, and Disability ... Income derived from Social Security is currently estimated to keep roughly 20% of all Americans, age 65
So be careful what you wish for because when you get old you will get nothing
..But i suppose you only want socialism when it suits you..Like when you get old or sick..
So i am glad your mummy and daddy helped you through your life to not need socialism
but some children's mummy and daddies are not up to scratch and that is were socialism is needed..
But i know you will be praying for socialism very soon
..When you go to confession remember to take some coins with you so you can talk to the computer vicar in the confession box..50 cents for 10 mins chat..Robot vicars
..You sound like you are downplaying freedom.
Everybody lives in socialism except for the hermit on the mountain. You know, the critter who doesn't "socialize," or partake of "society."
If I want to be the hermit on the mountain, don't stop me. If I want to limit my socialism in any other way, don't stop me. If you stop me against my will, you are using slavery. Is that what you want? Watch out. Slavery works both ways.
Once again, who would've thought, I have to agree with BADecker. Socialism is a "good" idea on paper but it's terrible in practise. And don't tell me about "real" socialism or such, because that's stupid.
The ONLY socialism that works for the benefit of the people, is where people are free to socialize or not, based on their own, personal discretion.
So who pays your pension?..SOCIALISM ..You Americans already have socialism just you wont admit it?..
You seem to think your just a capitalist country..
In the United States, Social Security is primarily the Old-Age, Survivors, and Disability ... Income derived from Social Security is currently estimated to keep roughly 20% of all Americans, age 65
So be careful what you wish for because when you get old you will get nothing
..But i suppose you only want socialism when it suits you..Like when you get old or sick..
So i am glad your mummy and daddy helped you through your life to not need socialism
but some children's mummy and daddies are not up to scratch and that is were socialism is needed..
But i know you will be praying for socialism very soon
..When you go to confession remember to take some coins with you so you can talk to the computer vicar in the confession box..50 cents for 10 mins chat..Robot vicars
..You sound like you are downplaying freedom.
Everybody lives in socialism except for the hermit on the mountain. You know, the critter who doesn't "socialize," or partake of "society."
If I want to be the hermit on the mountain, don't stop me. If I want to limit my socialism in any other way, don't stop me. If you stop me against my will, you are using slavery. Is that what you want? Watch out. Slavery works both ways.
The ONLY socialism that works for the benefit of the people, is where people are free to socialize or not, based on their own, personal discretion.
So who pays your pension?..SOCIALISM ..You Americans already have socialism just you wont admit it?..
You seem to think your just a capitalist country..
In the United States, Social Security is primarily the Old-Age, Survivors, and Disability ... Income derived from Social Security is currently estimated to keep roughly 20% of all Americans, age 65
So be careful what you wish for because when you get old you will get nothing
..But i suppose you only want socialism when it suits you..Like when you get old or sick..
So i am glad your mummy and daddy helped you through your life to not need socialism
but some children's mummy and daddies are not up to scratch and that is were socialism is needed..
But i know you will be praying for socialism very soon
..When you go to confession remember to take some coins with you so you can talk to the computer vicar in the confession box..50 cents for 10 mins chat..Robot vicars
..
The ONLY socialism that works for the benefit of the people, is where people are free to socialize or not, based on their own, personal discretion.
Theoretically, socialism is one of the best system for society. Practically many of the European nations currently are already practicing it successfully. Communism is a socialism with higher degree of state control which was much needed in highly populated countries with large number of working lower class in the late 20th century.
Because when the robots take your jobs you will be screaming for it ..
..If robots take all the jobs, nobody will have any money to buy the products robots make, and the robot system will crash.
If robots take all the jobs, and all the people go on welfare, people will be able to afford anything they want, freely... even to work if they want to work.
Think of it. Free travel. Free homes. Free everything. Robots repairing themselves without people. Live a life of ease. Do whatever you want.
Why are you so negative. Of course, you will be free to be negative when robots support us, so go ahead.
..You said the word ALL ..So why are you so negative
Of course, you will be free to be negative when robots support us, so go ahead.
Oh and i never voted on that poll you had just in case your wondering
..I like your post even though they are nuts
..I liked the honey post i went and bought a big tub of BUCKWHEAT HONEY honey
..It suppose to be better than manuka..So i bought 1.4kg of raw buckwheat honey for 16 pounds
That manuka cost a fortune for 340g 16 pounds for the queen bee manuka umf..
So i done some research and scientist say buckwheat is just as good if not better..
So i thought i give it a try for a month and mix a spoon full with me barley grass powder drink and see if i feel and look any better..Not that i could look any better than i already do
.. ..Anyway av a nice day and i will tell you if the buckwheat honey done any good
Oh i forgot to mention did you know honey never goes off you can eat it 3000 years later
..I never knew this till 2 days ago..
And me and my wife have threw many jars away thinking been in cupboard for 8 months so must be off and i could never find the best before label on jar
silly me..Sometimes used it to cover meat then roast mostly at Christmas..
So just in case someone decides to throw it away don't it will keep..
Let's be honest. Its not necessarily the systems that are right or wrong but, the fact that there are people that corrupt these systems. I'm not saying that these systems are equal per say but, when something goes wrong it can usually be traced back to someone that was trying to get the upper hand.
I personally prefer capitalism because, it holds everyone accountable for their actions. In a 100% functioning capitalist system, if I work my ass off and make all the right moves then I will reap the benefits.
I personally prefer capitalism because, it holds everyone accountable for their actions. In a 100% functioning capitalist system, if I work my ass off and make all the right moves then I will reap the benefits.
Because when the robots take your jobs you will be screaming for it ..
..If robots take all the jobs, nobody will have any money to buy the products robots make, and the robot system will crash.
If robots take all the jobs, and all the people go on welfare, people will be able to afford anything they want, freely... even to work if they want to work.
Think of it. Free travel. Free homes. Free everything. Robots repairing themselves without people. Live a life of ease. Do whatever you want.
Why are you so negative. Of course, you will be free to be negative when robots support us, so go ahead.
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Capitalist countries also tend to have tons of debt based spending... which causes hyperinflation of the currency
USA is good(?) at hiding their overspending... well... was good at it...
The Federal Reserve has never been audited, so we have no idea how much money they spend without telling us...
The Pentagon was audited for the first time ever... the audit showed they lied about $TRILLIONS... spending money without receipts... Over $8.5 Trillion in 2015 alone! (their budget is $600 Million)
The military spent more than 14x their budget (more than double the entire US budget... $3.25Trillion collected in taxes in 2015)! Without receipts to show it is a legitimate expense! And we aren't even at war with anyone?!?
This is what causes hyperinflation... when your government spends more than they collected in taxes... (spending money you don't have lowers its value)...
Capitalist countries also tend to have tons of debt based spending... which causes hyperinflation of the currency
USA is good(?) at hiding their overspending... well... was good at it...
The Federal Reserve has never been audited, so we have no idea how much money they spend without telling us...
The Pentagon was audited for the first time ever... the audit showed they lied about $TRILLIONS... spending money without receipts... Over $8.5 Trillion in 2015 alone! (their budget is $600 Million)
The military spent more than 14x their budget (more than double the entire US budget... $3.25Trillion collected in taxes in 2015)! Without receipts to show it is a legitimate expense! And we aren't even at war with anyone?!?
This is what causes hyperinflation... when your government spends more than they collected in taxes... (spending money you don't have lowers its value)...
Still pushing that error in your thinking? Okay-dokie.
Hyperinflation is the direct result of full employment and people wanting to dump money, instead of keeping and saving it.
Government spending isn't the cause of hyperinflation.
Read http://dyingofmoney.com/
The book is out of print but available on Scribd if I recall right.
No it doesn't. Karl Marx, the communist philosopher had this idea, but he was wrong on many fronts. Norway has a socialist system, they are doing well economically and have no plan to become communist.
Well, to be fair
Norway has shitloads of oil
Actually, all the Nordic countries do
Ireland has a good system
Why any system? not kidding its a serious question, why choose any system? We just need components of socialism to be mixed into the system we already have
Security. Without a system nobody checks critical resources such as nuclear plants. We created machines we can't control, we have to take care of them.Socialism is more better specially if your leader is charactirize by this kind of person because if your leader is socialist he is an open minded person and a very approachable person, he knows what is the problem of the poor person and also the rich person. He has two society the rich society and the poor society. He is a successful person but he brought his heart in his successful life. Socialism is not communism why? The difference of this is Communism hates rich people and love power while Socialism hates oligarch persons and dont have interest in power I mean he believes in destiny and socialist person is believe in god while communist person do not believe in god.
soacialism always ends up as communism... "socialist person is believe in god while communist person do not believe in god." well from all the intervies and protests I;ve seen, I can surely say that todays "socialists" share the same opinion on that question..
Why is the left pushing the idea of socialism/comunism so much even tho it showed that it doesn't work many times in the past?
theoretically , socialism and comunism are the best regime on earth. people are economically equal in those regimes but somethings arent like that in reality. socialist and communist regimes can easily evolve to dictatorship some time after. for that reason, these regimes dont work on earth.
Because when the robots take your jobs you will be screaming for it ..
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When you and your family work together for the benefit of the family only, is this not socialists at work.
Millions of people do this, and are hypocritical of what they see as some kind of stigma , and are afraid of it, mainly westerners.
When you help a friend out, or just a stranger, you are unconsciously aware of socialism, but do not fathom this out in your day to day brains, esp when stuck in the current mindset of those that have been taught to think it is evil, even Russian the bogey man when in fact it lives within all of us, socialism that is.
Socialism. The big, bad word that scares the bejeebies out of conservatives, right-wingers and, well, basically anyone that walks through life with blinders on.
Millions of people do this, and are hypocritical of what they see as some kind of stigma , and are afraid of it, mainly westerners.
When you help a friend out, or just a stranger, you are unconsciously aware of socialism, but do not fathom this out in your day to day brains, esp when stuck in the current mindset of those that have been taught to think it is evil, even Russian the bogey man when in fact it lives within all of us, socialism that is.
Socialism. The big, bad word that scares the bejeebies out of conservatives, right-wingers and, well, basically anyone that walks through life with blinders on.
I think socialism can never work perfectly because people in control always tend to be corrupt and they have a lot of advances over normal people in socialist countries. the perfect economic system should be a mixur between capitalism and socialism like in some Scandinavian countries
Why any system? not kidding its a serious question, why choose any system? We just need components of socialism to be mixed into the system we already have
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Socialism = government by the people, for the people
Capitalism = government for sale to the highest bidder (corporations and wealthy donors)
Socialism = government by the people, for the people
Capitalism = government for sale to the highest bidder (corporations and wealthy donors)
All the people of socialism use capitalism... all of them, everywhere, in one form or another.
Why is the left pushing the idea of socialism/comunism so much even tho it showed that it doesn't work many times in the past?
theoretically , socialism and comunism are the best regime on earth. people are economically equal in those regimes but somethings arent like that in reality. socialist and communist regimes can easily evolve to dictatorship some time after. for that reason, these regimes dont work on earth.
Any regime can turn into a dictatorship (most already have)... that has nothing to do with the style of government or economic policies, and everything to do with "power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely"
You cannot have any form of government without people in charge... those people always end up corrupted... faster in a Capitalism environment than a Socialist one...
I'll even give an example... USA (capitalist) vs Iceland (socialist)...
The bankers in both countries destroyed the economy... in USA, we gave the bankers a get out of jail free card and $50,000,000,000 bailout...
In Iceland... they threw the bankers in prison for causing the disaster
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2016-03-31/welcome-to-iceland-where-bad-bankers-go-to-prison
That's the difference between socialism and capitalism... the corruption is much worse in capitalism...
Socialism = government by the people, for the people
Capitalism = government for sale to the highest bidder (corporations and wealthy donors)
Why is the left pushing the idea of socialism/comunism so much even tho it showed that it doesn't work many times in the past?
theoretically , socialism and comunism are the best regime on earth. people are economically equal in those regimes but somethings arent like that in reality. socialist and communist regimes can easily evolve to dictatorship some time after. for that reason, these regimes dont work on earth.
But we are not all equal.
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