Topic: why socialism? - page 5. (Read 7744 times)

Thanks for the mini Stalin, I'm an alt of Cracked5 though, not mOgliE but I guess for you all left French are the same.

It doesn't matter, the question is clear: is violence against rich people justified?

The correct answer is thus "yes sometimes". Because if rich people attack you need to defend yourself.

Answering "no never" can only imply two things:
1/ you suck it up so much to rich people that if they attack you you spread your ass more
2/ you think rich people will never ever attack you

It is good to see our Frenchineer mini Stalin in training mOgliE again. The right to bear arms is for self defense, not killing rich people. There is a difference between self defense, and hunting down all the kulaks for having more than you.

Any rational worker would understand his predicament and would do anything in his power to change it.  Investment, education, looking for better places to sell their skills, starting their own business to sell their skills and abilities, saving money comes to mind.

You cannot blame the system for the actions of irrational workers. 

Workers in today's capitalist societies have more choices than ever before in history.  The same cannot be said about communist societies.
There is no mechanism for a worker in the communist society to become financially independent.  The communist system explicitly prohibits it.
Remember the famous rule from both the Soviet constitution and the Bible: "He who does not work, shall not eat".

This is ridiculous!

How can 80% of Americans feel that "violence is never justified against the richs"??

You're the citizens of a country that has nearly never known peace, that has part of its constitution ensuring that you always have the means to defend yourself, but you're against violence when it comes to rich people??

You don't see the contradiction here? xD

Any normal human being should answer that violence can be justified. There are cases where violence is the only answer. Otherwise what's the point of your guns?

Watch out Kulaks, they are coming for you again.

"47% of Strong Socialist Sympathizers Say Violence against the Rich Is Sometimes Justified"

https://www.cato.org/publications/survey-reports/what-americans-think-about-poverty-wealth-work#overview

Why socialism? Because you need it. Watch the movie to see what socialism can do for you.


La Guerre Du Feu (Quest for Fire)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1olqYFMZ7Hg



 

Glad to see lost interest in this filthy communist thread 

What I neglected to mention is that much of socialism is informal socialism. Any two people who get together for any project, or even just to have a quick conversation, are participating in informal socialism.

People are socialistic creatures. Most don't want the hermit lifestyle. But few want to give up all their freedom. The right kind of socialism allows differences in socialistic levels for all people at the same time. The thing about this form of socialism is that it is natural, not governmentally dictated. And it shouldn't be governmentally distributed.

Once again, who would've thought, I have to agree with BADecker. Socialism is a "good" idea on paper but it's terrible in practise. And don't tell me about "real" socialism or such, because that's stupid.

You sound like you are downplaying freedom.

Everybody lives in socialism except for the hermit on the mountain. You know, the critter who doesn't "socialize," or partake of "society."

If I want to be the hermit on the mountain, don't stop me. If I want to limit my socialism in any other way, don't stop me. If you stop me against my will, you are using slavery. Is that what you want? Watch out. Slavery works both ways.

So who pays your pension?..SOCIALISM ..
You Americans already have socialism just you wont admit it?..
You seem to think your just a capitalist country..

In the United States, Social Security is primarily the Old-Age, Survivors, and Disability ... Income derived from Social Security is currently estimated to keep roughly 20% of all Americans, age 65

So be careful what you wish for because when you get old you will get nothing  ..
But i suppose you only want socialism when it suits you..Like when you get old or sick..

So i am glad your mummy and daddy helped you through your life to not need socialism
but some children's mummy and daddies are not up to scratch and that is were socialism is needed..

But i know you will be praying for socialism very soon ..

When you go to confession remember to take some coins with you so you can talk to the computer vicar in the confession box..50 cents for 10 mins chat..Robot vicars ..

The ONLY socialism that works for the benefit of the people, is where people are free to socialize or not, based on their own, personal discretion.

Theoretically, socialism is one of the best system for society. Practically many of the European nations currently are already practicing it successfully. Communism is a socialism with higher degree of state control which was much needed in highly populated countries with large number of working lower class in the late 20th century.

Where did i say all ..You said the word ALL ..

So why are you so negative
Of course, you will be free to be negative when robots support us, so go ahead.

Oh and i never voted on that poll you had just in case your wondering ..
I like your post even though they are nuts ..

I liked the honey post i went and bought a big tub of BUCKWHEAT HONEY honey ..
It suppose to be better than manuka..So i bought 1.4kg of raw buckwheat honey for 16 pounds

That manuka cost a fortune for 340g 16 pounds for the queen bee manuka umf..
So i done some research and scientist say buckwheat is just as good if not better..
So i thought i give it a try for a month and mix a spoon full with me barley grass powder drink and see if i feel and look any better..Not that i could look any better than i already do .. ..

Anyway av a nice day and i will tell you if the buckwheat honey done any good

Oh i forgot to mention did you know honey never goes off you can eat it 3000 years later ..
I never knew this till 2 days ago..
And me and my wife have threw many jars away thinking been in cupboard for 8 months so must be off and i could never find the best before label on jar  silly me..
Sometimes used it to cover meat then roast mostly at Christmas..

So just in case someone decides to throw it away don't it will keep..

Let's be honest. Its not necessarily the systems that are right or wrong but, the fact that there are people that corrupt these systems. I'm not saying that these systems are equal per say but, when something goes wrong it can usually be traced back to someone that was trying to get the upper hand.

I personally prefer capitalism because, it holds everyone accountable for their actions. In a 100% functioning capitalist system, if I work my ass off and make all the right moves then I will reap the benefits.

If robots take all the jobs, nobody will have any money to buy the products robots make, and the robot system will crash.

If robots take all the jobs, and all the people go on welfare, people will be able to afford anything they want, freely... even to work if they want to work.

Think of it. Free travel. Free homes. Free everything. Robots repairing themselves without people. Live a life of ease. Do whatever you want.

Why are you so negative. Of course, you will be free to be negative when robots support us, so go ahead.

Still pushing that error in your thinking?  Okay-dokie.

Hyperinflation is the direct result of full employment and people wanting to dump money, instead of keeping and saving it.

Government spending isn't the cause of hyperinflation.

Read http://dyingofmoney.com/

The book is out of print but available on Scribd if I recall right.

Well, to be fair

Norway has shitloads of oil

Actually, all the Nordic countries do

Ireland has a good system  

Security. Without a system nobody checks critical resources such as nuclear plants. We created machines we can't control, we have to take care of them.

No it doesn't. Karl Marx, the communist philosopher had this idea, but he was wrong on many fronts. Norway has a socialist system, they are doing well economically and have no plan to become communist.

Any system can become a dictatorship, even a capitalist democracy (Germany 1939).