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legendary
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September 21, 2016, 05:48:30 PM
Because when the robots take your jobs you will be screaming for it Grin..
legendary
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Soon, I have to go away.
September 21, 2016, 05:29:59 PM
When you and your family work together for the benefit of the family only, is this not socialists at work.
Millions of people do this, and are hypocritical of what they see as some kind of stigma , and are afraid of it, mainly westerners.

When you help a friend out, or just a stranger, you are unconsciously aware of socialism, but do not fathom this out in your day to day brains, esp when stuck in the current mindset of those that have been taught to think it is evil, even Russian the bogey man when in fact it lives within all of us, socialism that is.

Socialism. The big, bad word that scares the bejeebies out of conservatives, right-wingers and, well, basically anyone that walks through life with blinders on.
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September 21, 2016, 04:43:26 PM
I think socialism can never work perfectly because people in control always tend to be corrupt and they have a lot of advances over normal people in socialist countries. the perfect economic system should be a mixur between capitalism and socialism like in some Scandinavian countries
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September 21, 2016, 11:59:04 AM
Why any system? not kidding its a serious question, why choose any system? We just need components of socialism to be mixed into the system we already have
legendary
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August 29, 2016, 12:55:03 PM
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Socialism = government by the people, for the people
Capitalism = government for sale to the highest bidder (corporations and wealthy donors)

All the people of socialism use capitalism... all of them, everywhere, in one form or another.

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August 29, 2016, 11:49:55 AM
Why is  the left pushing the idea of socialism/comunism so much even tho it showed that it doesn't work many times in the past?

theoretically , socialism and comunism are the best regime on earth. people are economically equal in those regimes but somethings arent like that in reality. socialist and communist regimes can easily evolve to dictatorship some time after. for that reason, these regimes dont work on earth.

Any regime can turn into a dictatorship (most already have)... that has nothing to do with the style of government or economic policies, and everything to do with "power corrupts, absolute power corrupts absolutely"

You cannot have any form of government without people in charge... those people always end up corrupted... faster in a Capitalism environment than a Socialist one...

I'll even give an example... USA (capitalist) vs Iceland (socialist)...

The bankers in both countries destroyed the economy... in USA, we gave the bankers a get out of jail free card and $50,000,000,000 bailout...

In Iceland... they threw the bankers in prison for causing the disaster
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/features/2016-03-31/welcome-to-iceland-where-bad-bankers-go-to-prison

That's the difference between socialism and capitalism... the corruption is much worse in capitalism...

Socialism = government by the people, for the people
Capitalism = government for sale to the highest bidder (corporations and wealthy donors)
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August 29, 2016, 11:39:37 AM
Why is  the left pushing the idea of socialism/comunism so much even tho it showed that it doesn't work many times in the past?

theoretically , socialism and comunism are the best regime on earth. people are economically equal in those regimes but somethings arent like that in reality. socialist and communist regimes can easily evolve to dictatorship some time after. for that reason, these regimes dont work on earth.

But we are not all equal.
legendary
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August 29, 2016, 11:36:18 AM
Why is  the left pushing the idea of socialism/comunism so much even tho it showed that it doesn't work many times in the past?

theoretically , socialism and comunism are the best regime on earth. people are economically equal in those regimes but somethings arent like that in reality. socialist and communist regimes can easily evolve to dictatorship some time after. for that reason, these regimes dont work on earth.
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August 29, 2016, 10:44:28 AM
Bernie Sanders. That's why. Smiley

Im joking,
 But all jokes aside, how about free healthcare.
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August 29, 2016, 08:24:19 AM
Socialism is more better specially if your leader is charactirize by this kind of person because if your leader is socialist he is an open minded person and a very approachable person, he knows what is the problem of the poor person and also the rich person. He has two society the rich society and the poor society. He is a successful person but he brought his heart in his successful life. Socialism is not communism why? The difference of this is Communism hates rich people and love power while Socialism hates oligarch persons and dont have interest in power I mean he believes in destiny and socialist person is believe in god while communist person do not believe in god.

soacialism always ends up as communism... "socialist person is believe in god while communist person do not believe in god." well from all the intervies and protests I;ve seen, I can surely say that todays "socialists" share the same opinion on that question..

Socialism has no link with communism...
It's like saying capitalism always ends up becoming fascism. .. it has no link whatsoever ><

I would argue that capitalism has some serious flaws...

It inevitably leads to corruption of the government by money... inevitable...

Capitalism leads to an Oligarchy... like America... where corporations write the laws, then bribe congress to pass the laws (Obamacare, TPP, etc)...

That's how America works right now... America is an Oligarchy... because that's what happens to Capitalist countries

And main problem is that capitalism works on growth, and infinite growth in a finite world is not possible. It doesn't work, why everyone is praising capitalism when it can obviously not work...

Capitalist countries also tend to have tons of debt based spending... which causes hyperinflation of the currency

USA is good(?) at hiding their overspending... well... was good at it...

The Federal Reserve has never been audited, so we have no idea how much money they spend without telling us...

The Pentagon was audited for the first time ever... the audit showed they lied about $TRILLIONS... spending money without receipts... Over $8.5 Trillion in 2015 alone! (their budget is $600 Million)

The military spent more than 14x their budget (more than double the entire US budget... $3.25Trillion collected in taxes in 2015)!  Without receipts to show it is a legitimate expense! And we aren't even at war with anyone?!?

This is what causes hyperinflation... when your government spends more than they collected in taxes... (spending money you don't have lowers its value)

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2015/03/19/85-Trillion-Unaccounted-Should-Congress-Increase-Defense-Budget
legendary
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August 29, 2016, 08:07:31 AM
Socialism is more better specially if your leader is charactirize by this kind of person because if your leader is socialist he is an open minded person and a very approachable person, he knows what is the problem of the poor person and also the rich person. He has two society the rich society and the poor society. He is a successful person but he brought his heart in his successful life. Socialism is not communism why? The difference of this is Communism hates rich people and love power while Socialism hates oligarch persons and dont have interest in power I mean he believes in destiny and socialist person is believe in god while communist person do not believe in god.

soacialism always ends up as communism... "socialist person is believe in god while communist person do not believe in god." well from all the intervies and protests I;ve seen, I can surely say that todays "socialists" share the same opinion on that question..

Socialism has no link with communism...
It's like saying capitalism always ends up becoming fascism. .. it has no link whatsoever ><

I would argue that capitalism has some serious flaws...

It inevitably leads to corruption of the government by money... inevitable...

Capitalism leads to an Oligarchy... like America... where corporations write the laws, then bribe congress to pass the laws (Obamacare, TPP, etc)...

That's how America works right now... America is an Oligarchy... because that's what happens to Capitalist countries

And main problem is that capitalism works on growth, and infinite growth in a finite world is not possible. It doesn't work, why everyone is praising capitalism when it can obviously not work...
legendary
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August 29, 2016, 08:04:54 AM
Socialism is more better specially if your leader is charactirize by this kind of person because if your leader is socialist he is an open minded person and a very approachable person, he knows what is the problem of the poor person and also the rich person. He has two society the rich society and the poor society. He is a successful person but he brought his heart in his successful life. Socialism is not communism why? The difference of this is Communism hates rich people and love power while Socialism hates oligarch persons and dont have interest in power I mean he believes in destiny and socialist person is believe in god while communist person do not believe in god.

soacialism always ends up as communism... "socialist person is believe in god while communist person do not believe in god." well from all the intervies and protests I;ve seen, I can surely say that todays "socialists" share the same opinion on that question..

Socialism has no link with communism...
It's like saying capitalism always ends up becoming fascism. .. it has no link whatsoever ><

Socialism is nice in theory but practically doesn't work.
It can work until all money is spend.
After that country collapse and long time of recovery is needed.
Perfect example right now is Venezuela.
Country so rich with oil but economy collapsed and people don't have even enough food to eat.
If you read books from some communists (Engels, Lenin), you will know that they said that first step before ideal, communist world, will be socialism.


Dumb comment...
Socialism principle is redistribution  of growth. There is no possibility of "money being all spent"....
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August 28, 2016, 10:26:45 AM
Socialism is more better specially if your leader is charactirize by this kind of person because if your leader is socialist he is an open minded person and a very approachable person, he knows what is the problem of the poor person and also the rich person. He has two society the rich society and the poor society. He is a successful person but he brought his heart in his successful life. Socialism is not communism why? The difference of this is Communism hates rich people and love power while Socialism hates oligarch persons and dont have interest in power I mean he believes in destiny and socialist person is believe in god while communist person do not believe in god.

soacialism always ends up as communism... "socialist person is believe in god while communist person do not believe in god." well from all the intervies and protests I;ve seen, I can surely say that todays "socialists" share the same opinion on that question..

Socialism has no link with communism...
It's like saying capitalism always ends up becoming fascism. .. it has no link whatsoever ><

I would argue that capitalism has some serious flaws...

It inevitably leads to corruption of the government by money... inevitable...

Capitalism leads to an Oligarchy... like America... where corporations write the laws, then bribe congress to pass the laws (Obamacare, TPP, etc)...

That's how America works right now... America is an Oligarchy... because that's what happens to Capitalist countries
legendary
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August 28, 2016, 08:52:52 AM
Socialism is more better specially if your leader is charactirize by this kind of person because if your leader is socialist he is an open minded person and a very approachable person, he knows what is the problem of the poor person and also the rich person. He has two society the rich society and the poor society. He is a successful person but he brought his heart in his successful life. Socialism is not communism why? The difference of this is Communism hates rich people and love power while Socialism hates oligarch persons and dont have interest in power I mean he believes in destiny and socialist person is believe in god while communist person do not believe in god.

soacialism always ends up as communism... "socialist person is believe in god while communist person do not believe in god." well from all the intervies and protests I;ve seen, I can surely say that todays "socialists" share the same opinion on that question..

Socialism has no link with communism...
It's like saying capitalism always ends up becoming fascism. .. it has no link whatsoever ><

Socialism in some form has to do with everything that people do. Probably the greatest urge in life is for a man and a woman to get together and have children. This is a form of socialism. Then, families get together to do great projects, or to protect each other from natural disaster, or to protect each other from warring forms of socialism in other socialistic groups.

Communism is simply a form of socialism. Democracy is another form. Capitalism is another. The religions are others.

We are simply socialistic creatures. Seldom do you find a happy hermit who has no contact whatsoever with any other person. Watch the movie "Cast Away" with Tom Hanks to see what happens without socialism... and even Tom had to have "Wilson," his volley ball, on which he pained a face.

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legendary
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August 28, 2016, 07:20:26 AM
Socialism is more better specially if your leader is charactirize by this kind of person because if your leader is socialist he is an open minded person and a very approachable person, he knows what is the problem of the poor person and also the rich person. He has two society the rich society and the poor society. He is a successful person but he brought his heart in his successful life. Socialism is not communism why? The difference of this is Communism hates rich people and love power while Socialism hates oligarch persons and dont have interest in power I mean he believes in destiny and socialist person is believe in god while communist person do not believe in god.

soacialism always ends up as communism... "socialist person is believe in god while communist person do not believe in god." well from all the intervies and protests I;ve seen, I can surely say that todays "socialists" share the same opinion on that question..

Socialism has no link with communism...
It's like saying capitalism always ends up becoming fascism. .. it has no link whatsoever ><

Socialism is nice in theory but practically doesn't work.
It can work until all money is spend.
After that country collapse and long time of recovery is needed.
Perfect example right now is Venezuela.
Country so rich with oil but economy collapsed and people don't have even enough food to eat.
If you read books from some communists (Engels, Lenin), you will know that they said that first step before ideal, communist world, will be socialism.
legendary
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August 28, 2016, 06:48:54 AM
Socialism is more better specially if your leader is charactirize by this kind of person because if your leader is socialist he is an open minded person and a very approachable person, he knows what is the problem of the poor person and also the rich person. He has two society the rich society and the poor society. He is a successful person but he brought his heart in his successful life. Socialism is not communism why? The difference of this is Communism hates rich people and love power while Socialism hates oligarch persons and dont have interest in power I mean he believes in destiny and socialist person is believe in god while communist person do not believe in god.

soacialism always ends up as communism... "socialist person is believe in god while communist person do not believe in god." well from all the intervies and protests I;ve seen, I can surely say that todays "socialists" share the same opinion on that question..

Socialism has no link with communism...
It's like saying capitalism always ends up becoming fascism. .. it has no link whatsoever ><
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Yueno
August 28, 2016, 02:49:49 AM
Socialism is more better specially if your leader is charactirize by this kind of person because if your leader is socialist he is an open minded person and a very approachable person, he knows what is the problem of the poor person and also the rich person. He has two society the rich society and the poor society. He is a successful person but he brought his heart in his successful life. Socialism is not communism why? The difference of this is Communism hates rich people and love power while Socialism hates oligarch persons and dont have interest in power I mean he believes in destiny and socialist person is believe in god while communist person do not believe in god.

soacialism always ends up as communism... "socialist person is believe in god while communist person do not believe in god." well from all the intervies and protests I;ve seen, I can surely say that todays "socialists" share the same opinion on that question..

Maybe in your experience but we are experiencing a guy who is a socialist. He is pro poor and he hates oligarch persons not a rich persons therebis a big difference between rich and oligarch persons. Rich persons refers to those person earn there money by not expensing the poor people for example bill gates while oligarch persons refers to those person earn there money by the expense of the poor people or let say they destroy the livelihood of the poor for there own interest example of this are illegal miners.
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August 28, 2016, 02:29:57 AM
#99
Socialism is more better specially if your leader is charactirize by this kind of person because if your leader is socialist he is an open minded person and a very approachable person, he knows what is the problem of the poor person and also the rich person. He has two society the rich society and the poor society. He is a successful person but he brought his heart in his successful life. Socialism is not communism why? The difference of this is Communism hates rich people and love power while Socialism hates oligarch persons and dont have interest in power I mean he believes in destiny and socialist person is believe in god while communist person do not believe in god.

soacialism always ends up as communism... "socialist person is believe in god while communist person do not believe in god." well from all the intervies and protests I;ve seen, I can surely say that todays "socialists" share the same opinion on that question..
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Yueno
August 27, 2016, 11:12:37 PM
#98
Socialism is more better specially if your leader is charactirize by this kind of person because if your leader is socialist he is an open minded person and a very approachable person, he knows what is the problem of the poor person and also the rich person. He has two society the rich society and the poor society. He is a successful person but he brought his heart in his successful life. Socialism is not communism why? The difference of this is Communism hates rich people and love power while Socialism hates oligarch persons and dont have interest in power I mean he believes in destiny and socialist person is believe in god while communist person do not believe in god.
legendary
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August 20, 2016, 06:52:02 AM
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Socialism isn't really the question. People are "socialistically" minded creatures. Look at all the cellphone messaging being done. Look at the friends that meet at churches, restaurants and bars, to say nothing about get-togethers and outings. Socialism is something that people like.

The thing that makes it bad is when some evil people recognize this nature in people, and use people's nature to steal from them without their even knowing it. This is what government does.

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