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legendary
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August 29, 2016, 11:36:18 AM
Why is  the left pushing the idea of socialism/comunism so much even tho it showed that it doesn't work many times in the past?

theoretically , socialism and comunism are the best regime on earth. people are economically equal in those regimes but somethings arent like that in reality. socialist and communist regimes can easily evolve to dictatorship some time after. for that reason, these regimes dont work on earth.
full member
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August 29, 2016, 10:44:28 AM
Bernie Sanders. That's why. Smiley

Im joking,
 But all jokes aside, how about free healthcare.
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August 29, 2016, 08:24:19 AM
Socialism is more better specially if your leader is charactirize by this kind of person because if your leader is socialist he is an open minded person and a very approachable person, he knows what is the problem of the poor person and also the rich person. He has two society the rich society and the poor society. He is a successful person but he brought his heart in his successful life. Socialism is not communism why? The difference of this is Communism hates rich people and love power while Socialism hates oligarch persons and dont have interest in power I mean he believes in destiny and socialist person is believe in god while communist person do not believe in god.

soacialism always ends up as communism... "socialist person is believe in god while communist person do not believe in god." well from all the intervies and protests I;ve seen, I can surely say that todays "socialists" share the same opinion on that question..

Socialism has no link with communism...
It's like saying capitalism always ends up becoming fascism. .. it has no link whatsoever ><

I would argue that capitalism has some serious flaws...

It inevitably leads to corruption of the government by money... inevitable...

Capitalism leads to an Oligarchy... like America... where corporations write the laws, then bribe congress to pass the laws (Obamacare, TPP, etc)...

That's how America works right now... America is an Oligarchy... because that's what happens to Capitalist countries

And main problem is that capitalism works on growth, and infinite growth in a finite world is not possible. It doesn't work, why everyone is praising capitalism when it can obviously not work...

Capitalist countries also tend to have tons of debt based spending... which causes hyperinflation of the currency

USA is good(?) at hiding their overspending... well... was good at it...

The Federal Reserve has never been audited, so we have no idea how much money they spend without telling us...

The Pentagon was audited for the first time ever... the audit showed they lied about $TRILLIONS... spending money without receipts... Over $8.5 Trillion in 2015 alone! (their budget is $600 Million)

The military spent more than 14x their budget (more than double the entire US budget... $3.25Trillion collected in taxes in 2015)!  Without receipts to show it is a legitimate expense! And we aren't even at war with anyone?!?

This is what causes hyperinflation... when your government spends more than they collected in taxes... (spending money you don't have lowers its value)

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2015/03/19/85-Trillion-Unaccounted-Should-Congress-Increase-Defense-Budget
legendary
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August 29, 2016, 08:07:31 AM
Socialism is more better specially if your leader is charactirize by this kind of person because if your leader is socialist he is an open minded person and a very approachable person, he knows what is the problem of the poor person and also the rich person. He has two society the rich society and the poor society. He is a successful person but he brought his heart in his successful life. Socialism is not communism why? The difference of this is Communism hates rich people and love power while Socialism hates oligarch persons and dont have interest in power I mean he believes in destiny and socialist person is believe in god while communist person do not believe in god.

soacialism always ends up as communism... "socialist person is believe in god while communist person do not believe in god." well from all the intervies and protests I;ve seen, I can surely say that todays "socialists" share the same opinion on that question..

Socialism has no link with communism...
It's like saying capitalism always ends up becoming fascism. .. it has no link whatsoever ><

I would argue that capitalism has some serious flaws...

It inevitably leads to corruption of the government by money... inevitable...

Capitalism leads to an Oligarchy... like America... where corporations write the laws, then bribe congress to pass the laws (Obamacare, TPP, etc)...

That's how America works right now... America is an Oligarchy... because that's what happens to Capitalist countries

And main problem is that capitalism works on growth, and infinite growth in a finite world is not possible. It doesn't work, why everyone is praising capitalism when it can obviously not work...
legendary
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August 29, 2016, 08:04:54 AM
Socialism is more better specially if your leader is charactirize by this kind of person because if your leader is socialist he is an open minded person and a very approachable person, he knows what is the problem of the poor person and also the rich person. He has two society the rich society and the poor society. He is a successful person but he brought his heart in his successful life. Socialism is not communism why? The difference of this is Communism hates rich people and love power while Socialism hates oligarch persons and dont have interest in power I mean he believes in destiny and socialist person is believe in god while communist person do not believe in god.

soacialism always ends up as communism... "socialist person is believe in god while communist person do not believe in god." well from all the intervies and protests I;ve seen, I can surely say that todays "socialists" share the same opinion on that question..

Socialism has no link with communism...
It's like saying capitalism always ends up becoming fascism. .. it has no link whatsoever ><

Socialism is nice in theory but practically doesn't work.
It can work until all money is spend.
After that country collapse and long time of recovery is needed.
Perfect example right now is Venezuela.
Country so rich with oil but economy collapsed and people don't have even enough food to eat.
If you read books from some communists (Engels, Lenin), you will know that they said that first step before ideal, communist world, will be socialism.


Dumb comment...
Socialism principle is redistribution  of growth. There is no possibility of "money being all spent"....
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August 28, 2016, 10:26:45 AM
Socialism is more better specially if your leader is charactirize by this kind of person because if your leader is socialist he is an open minded person and a very approachable person, he knows what is the problem of the poor person and also the rich person. He has two society the rich society and the poor society. He is a successful person but he brought his heart in his successful life. Socialism is not communism why? The difference of this is Communism hates rich people and love power while Socialism hates oligarch persons and dont have interest in power I mean he believes in destiny and socialist person is believe in god while communist person do not believe in god.

soacialism always ends up as communism... "socialist person is believe in god while communist person do not believe in god." well from all the intervies and protests I;ve seen, I can surely say that todays "socialists" share the same opinion on that question..

Socialism has no link with communism...
It's like saying capitalism always ends up becoming fascism. .. it has no link whatsoever ><

I would argue that capitalism has some serious flaws...

It inevitably leads to corruption of the government by money... inevitable...

Capitalism leads to an Oligarchy... like America... where corporations write the laws, then bribe congress to pass the laws (Obamacare, TPP, etc)...

That's how America works right now... America is an Oligarchy... because that's what happens to Capitalist countries
legendary
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August 28, 2016, 08:52:52 AM
Socialism is more better specially if your leader is charactirize by this kind of person because if your leader is socialist he is an open minded person and a very approachable person, he knows what is the problem of the poor person and also the rich person. He has two society the rich society and the poor society. He is a successful person but he brought his heart in his successful life. Socialism is not communism why? The difference of this is Communism hates rich people and love power while Socialism hates oligarch persons and dont have interest in power I mean he believes in destiny and socialist person is believe in god while communist person do not believe in god.

soacialism always ends up as communism... "socialist person is believe in god while communist person do not believe in god." well from all the intervies and protests I;ve seen, I can surely say that todays "socialists" share the same opinion on that question..

Socialism has no link with communism...
It's like saying capitalism always ends up becoming fascism. .. it has no link whatsoever ><

Socialism in some form has to do with everything that people do. Probably the greatest urge in life is for a man and a woman to get together and have children. This is a form of socialism. Then, families get together to do great projects, or to protect each other from natural disaster, or to protect each other from warring forms of socialism in other socialistic groups.

Communism is simply a form of socialism. Democracy is another form. Capitalism is another. The religions are others.

We are simply socialistic creatures. Seldom do you find a happy hermit who has no contact whatsoever with any other person. Watch the movie "Cast Away" with Tom Hanks to see what happens without socialism... and even Tom had to have "Wilson," his volley ball, on which he pained a face.

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legendary
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August 28, 2016, 07:20:26 AM
Socialism is more better specially if your leader is charactirize by this kind of person because if your leader is socialist he is an open minded person and a very approachable person, he knows what is the problem of the poor person and also the rich person. He has two society the rich society and the poor society. He is a successful person but he brought his heart in his successful life. Socialism is not communism why? The difference of this is Communism hates rich people and love power while Socialism hates oligarch persons and dont have interest in power I mean he believes in destiny and socialist person is believe in god while communist person do not believe in god.

soacialism always ends up as communism... "socialist person is believe in god while communist person do not believe in god." well from all the intervies and protests I;ve seen, I can surely say that todays "socialists" share the same opinion on that question..

Socialism has no link with communism...
It's like saying capitalism always ends up becoming fascism. .. it has no link whatsoever ><

Socialism is nice in theory but practically doesn't work.
It can work until all money is spend.
After that country collapse and long time of recovery is needed.
Perfect example right now is Venezuela.
Country so rich with oil but economy collapsed and people don't have even enough food to eat.
If you read books from some communists (Engels, Lenin), you will know that they said that first step before ideal, communist world, will be socialism.
legendary
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August 28, 2016, 06:48:54 AM
Socialism is more better specially if your leader is charactirize by this kind of person because if your leader is socialist he is an open minded person and a very approachable person, he knows what is the problem of the poor person and also the rich person. He has two society the rich society and the poor society. He is a successful person but he brought his heart in his successful life. Socialism is not communism why? The difference of this is Communism hates rich people and love power while Socialism hates oligarch persons and dont have interest in power I mean he believes in destiny and socialist person is believe in god while communist person do not believe in god.

soacialism always ends up as communism... "socialist person is believe in god while communist person do not believe in god." well from all the intervies and protests I;ve seen, I can surely say that todays "socialists" share the same opinion on that question..

Socialism has no link with communism...
It's like saying capitalism always ends up becoming fascism. .. it has no link whatsoever ><
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Yueno
August 28, 2016, 02:49:49 AM
Socialism is more better specially if your leader is charactirize by this kind of person because if your leader is socialist he is an open minded person and a very approachable person, he knows what is the problem of the poor person and also the rich person. He has two society the rich society and the poor society. He is a successful person but he brought his heart in his successful life. Socialism is not communism why? The difference of this is Communism hates rich people and love power while Socialism hates oligarch persons and dont have interest in power I mean he believes in destiny and socialist person is believe in god while communist person do not believe in god.

soacialism always ends up as communism... "socialist person is believe in god while communist person do not believe in god." well from all the intervies and protests I;ve seen, I can surely say that todays "socialists" share the same opinion on that question..

Maybe in your experience but we are experiencing a guy who is a socialist. He is pro poor and he hates oligarch persons not a rich persons therebis a big difference between rich and oligarch persons. Rich persons refers to those person earn there money by not expensing the poor people for example bill gates while oligarch persons refers to those person earn there money by the expense of the poor people or let say they destroy the livelihood of the poor for there own interest example of this are illegal miners.
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Need some spare btc for a new PC
August 28, 2016, 02:29:57 AM
#99
Socialism is more better specially if your leader is charactirize by this kind of person because if your leader is socialist he is an open minded person and a very approachable person, he knows what is the problem of the poor person and also the rich person. He has two society the rich society and the poor society. He is a successful person but he brought his heart in his successful life. Socialism is not communism why? The difference of this is Communism hates rich people and love power while Socialism hates oligarch persons and dont have interest in power I mean he believes in destiny and socialist person is believe in god while communist person do not believe in god.

soacialism always ends up as communism... "socialist person is believe in god while communist person do not believe in god." well from all the intervies and protests I;ve seen, I can surely say that todays "socialists" share the same opinion on that question..
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Yueno
August 27, 2016, 11:12:37 PM
#98
Socialism is more better specially if your leader is charactirize by this kind of person because if your leader is socialist he is an open minded person and a very approachable person, he knows what is the problem of the poor person and also the rich person. He has two society the rich society and the poor society. He is a successful person but he brought his heart in his successful life. Socialism is not communism why? The difference of this is Communism hates rich people and love power while Socialism hates oligarch persons and dont have interest in power I mean he believes in destiny and socialist person is believe in god while communist person do not believe in god.
legendary
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August 20, 2016, 06:52:02 AM
#97
Socialism isn't really the question. People are "socialistically" minded creatures. Look at all the cellphone messaging being done. Look at the friends that meet at churches, restaurants and bars, to say nothing about get-togethers and outings. Socialism is something that people like.

The thing that makes it bad is when some evil people recognize this nature in people, and use people's nature to steal from them without their even knowing it. This is what government does.

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legendary
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August 20, 2016, 06:46:03 AM
#96
Another aspect that the oligarchic handlers of the socialist movements don't want you to understand is the role of patenting. The revolution is open source.

The trick of revolution is the direction of revolution.

Do you revolt from bad to good? or from good to bad? Which direction is good and which direction is bad?

If people could see the answer to these questions, revolutions would change, because most people want to do good. They often don't know when they are doing the bad.

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August 20, 2016, 04:45:59 AM
#95
Another aspect that the oligarchic handlers of the socialist movements don't want you to understand is the role of patenting. The revolution is open source.
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August 19, 2016, 09:39:48 AM
#94
Seeing the lionheart (super yacht) from sir green (friend of Bloomberg) I couldn't escape to feel sympathy for your socialist cause. I agree that it's outrageously a very nice boat... The numbers of 20's something having contracted STD on it must be staggering.

I understand the envy and jealousy that such an asset may create in the mind of those thinking that they will never achieve to own one.

However here is the reality behind this boat:

So the Sir green exploited explosive demographic population at just above subsistence level to produce cotton and manufacture clothes using all toxic costly efficient process (cost side) and sold them to the western liberals to pimp and raise their social status at a premium(demand side).

 How to defeat such an evil odious and pervert Sir? The ultimate weapon of the market: your pursue. Rather than being a consumer drone buying shit from a shitlord, buy expensiver longer lasting morally clean clothes. And so the upkeep of his boat and related asset will finish him.

The market can make or brake anything and even defeat the USA as proven in the drug war. The will of man.
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August 15, 2016, 06:30:38 PM
#93
Capitalism rewards hard-working people and that is a good thing. On the other hand, it also punishes lazy and dumb people. Being dumb is something you can't change easily but being lazy is definitely should be punished. Some humanitarians can say it is not something to be punished but i disagree. If you are lazy you deserve nothing. If you are dumb, just pray for that find a rich husband/wife.

Socialism rewards poor and dumb people while it punishes rich and clever people. Because those poor and dumb parasites will benefit from clever people's inventions for FREE. If you are good at something, never do it for free. Socialist dreamers will say, they don't have to do it for free but that's a lie. Their dictator will name a price on that clever person's work ant that's it. He will accept whatever the price they say.

I choose capitalism.

Socialism is designed to reward the poor and punish the rich. But it winds up punishing the poor even more by simply making the new socialist leaders into the new rich.

Cool

Those shades don't make you right you know but they kind of make you look like
Morpheus from The Matrix tho. If the Matrix were socialism.

We can discuss what makes me right, later. The fact is, I am right... shades or no shades.

Cool

Lol why only later? Why not discuss it now if you think you are right?

Well, why not later? Or why at all?    Cool

That's such a Morpheus answer
legendary
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August 15, 2016, 05:56:49 PM
#92
Capitalism rewards hard-working people and that is a good thing. On the other hand, it also punishes lazy and dumb people. Being dumb is something you can't change easily but being lazy is definitely should be punished. Some humanitarians can say it is not something to be punished but i disagree. If you are lazy you deserve nothing. If you are dumb, just pray for that find a rich husband/wife.

Socialism rewards poor and dumb people while it punishes rich and clever people. Because those poor and dumb parasites will benefit from clever people's inventions for FREE. If you are good at something, never do it for free. Socialist dreamers will say, they don't have to do it for free but that's a lie. Their dictator will name a price on that clever person's work ant that's it. He will accept whatever the price they say.

I choose capitalism.

Socialism is designed to reward the poor and punish the rich. But it winds up punishing the poor even more by simply making the new socialist leaders into the new rich.

Cool

Those shades don't make you right you know but they kind of make you look like
Morpheus from The Matrix tho. If the Matrix were socialism.

We can discuss what makes me right, later. The fact is, I am right... shades or no shades.

Cool

Lol why only later? Why not discuss it now if you think you are right?

Well, why not later? Or why at all?    Cool
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August 15, 2016, 05:44:06 PM
#91
Capitalism rewards hard-working people and that is a good thing. On the other hand, it also punishes lazy and dumb people. Being dumb is something you can't change easily but being lazy is definitely should be punished. Some humanitarians can say it is not something to be punished but i disagree. If you are lazy you deserve nothing. If you are dumb, just pray for that find a rich husband/wife.

Socialism rewards poor and dumb people while it punishes rich and clever people. Because those poor and dumb parasites will benefit from clever people's inventions for FREE. If you are good at something, never do it for free. Socialist dreamers will say, they don't have to do it for free but that's a lie. Their dictator will name a price on that clever person's work ant that's it. He will accept whatever the price they say.

I choose capitalism.

Socialism is designed to reward the poor and punish the rich. But it winds up punishing the poor even more by simply making the new socialist leaders into the new rich.

Cool

Those shades don't make you right you know but they kind of make you look like
Morpheus from The Matrix tho. If the Matrix were socialism.

We can discuss what makes me right, later. The fact is, I am right... shades or no shades.

Cool

Lol why only later? Why not discuss it now if you think you are right?
legendary
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Merit: 1389
August 15, 2016, 05:35:41 PM
#90
Capitalism rewards hard-working people and that is a good thing. On the other hand, it also punishes lazy and dumb people. Being dumb is something you can't change easily but being lazy is definitely should be punished. Some humanitarians can say it is not something to be punished but i disagree. If you are lazy you deserve nothing. If you are dumb, just pray for that find a rich husband/wife.

Socialism rewards poor and dumb people while it punishes rich and clever people. Because those poor and dumb parasites will benefit from clever people's inventions for FREE. If you are good at something, never do it for free. Socialist dreamers will say, they don't have to do it for free but that's a lie. Their dictator will name a price on that clever person's work ant that's it. He will accept whatever the price they say.

I choose capitalism.

Socialism is designed to reward the poor and punish the rich. But it winds up punishing the poor even more by simply making the new socialist leaders into the new rich.

Cool

Those shades don't make you right you know but they kind of make you look like
Morpheus from The Matrix tho. If the Matrix were socialism.

We can discuss what makes me right, later. The fact is, I am right... shades or no shades.

Cool
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