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August 15, 2016, 05:14:37 PM
#89
Capitalism rewards hard-working people and that is a good thing. On the other hand, it also punishes lazy and dumb people. Being dumb is something you can't change easily but being lazy is definitely should be punished. Some humanitarians can say it is not something to be punished but i disagree. If you are lazy you deserve nothing. If you are dumb, just pray for that find a rich husband/wife.

Socialism rewards poor and dumb people while it punishes rich and clever people. Because those poor and dumb parasites will benefit from clever people's inventions for FREE. If you are good at something, never do it for free. Socialist dreamers will say, they don't have to do it for free but that's a lie. Their dictator will name a price on that clever person's work ant that's it. He will accept whatever the price they say.

I choose capitalism.

Socialism is designed to reward the poor and punish the rich. But it winds up punishing the poor even more by simply making the new socialist leaders into the new rich.

Cool

Those shades don't make you right you know but they kind of make you look like
Morpheus from The Matrix tho. If the Matrix were socialism.
legendary
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August 15, 2016, 04:52:32 PM
#88
Capitalism rewards hard-working people and that is a good thing. On the other hand, it also punishes lazy and dumb people. Being dumb is something you can't change easily but being lazy is definitely should be punished. Some humanitarians can say it is not something to be punished but i disagree. If you are lazy you deserve nothing. If you are dumb, just pray for that find a rich husband/wife.

Socialism rewards poor and dumb people while it punishes rich and clever people. Because those poor and dumb parasites will benefit from clever people's inventions for FREE. If you are good at something, never do it for free. Socialist dreamers will say, they don't have to do it for free but that's a lie. Their dictator will name a price on that clever person's work ant that's it. He will accept whatever the price they say.

I choose capitalism.

Socialism is designed to reward the poor and punish the rich. But it winds up punishing the poor even more by simply making the new socialist leaders into the new rich.

Cool
legendary
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August 15, 2016, 02:07:19 PM
#87
Capitalism rewards hard-working people and that is a good thing. On the other hand, it also punishes lazy and dumb people. Being dumb is something you can't change easily but being lazy is definitely should be punished. Some humanitarians can say it is not something to be punished but i disagree. If you are lazy you deserve nothing. If you are dumb, just pray for that find a rich husband/wife.

Socialism rewards poor and dumb people while it punishes rich and clever people. Because those poor and dumb parasites will benefit from clever people's inventions for FREE. If you are good at something, never do it for free. Socialist dreamers will say, they don't have to do it for free but that's a lie. Their dictator will name a price on that clever person's work ant that's it. He will accept whatever the price they say.

I choose capitalism.
sr. member
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August 15, 2016, 01:54:27 PM
#86
I read about the USSR and how hungry people were before the Berlin wall came down, I do not want a repeat of that with the next generation.

There a lot of hungry people in China, despite its growing economy.
hero member
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August 15, 2016, 01:21:08 PM
#85
Filthy communists and their hive mentality
sr. member
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August 15, 2016, 06:35:45 AM
#84
Свобода (Гаврила Романович Державин)

Теплой осени дыханье,
Помавание дубов,
Тихое листов шептанье,
Восклицанье голосов
   Мне, лежащему в долине,
   Наводили сладкий сон.

Видел я себя стоящим
На высоком вдруг холму,
На плоды вдали глядящим,
На шумящу вблизь волну, -
   И как будто в важном чине
   Я носил на плечах холм.

Дальше: власти мне святые
Иго то велели несть,
Все венцы суля земные,
Титла, золото и честь.
   "Нет! - восстал от сна глубока,
   Я сказал им, - не хочу.

Не хочу моей свободы,
Совесть на мечты менять;
Гладки воды, коль погоды
Их не могут колебать.
   Власть тогда моя высока,
   Коль я власти не ищу".

Октябрь 1803

This is true freedom!
legendary
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August 14, 2016, 11:36:10 PM
#83
Education level in the USA is becoming very low year for year because the USA rather spend 1 trillion in defense per year (black budgets etc included).

Economic  strength comes from intellegent people. Intelligent people aren't made by free speech but by good education. Good education has to be payed by tax money else see power law distribution and game theory -> fat elites that control everything -> us American corporatism.

That is what Masha Sha supports: Corporatism - even though he is just a small uneducated peasant.

Brainwashing 101.



Peasant is the greatest compliment ever made to me... Readying for the garden of Eden:) and in the meantime off to the market to exchange values with fellow peasants Wink.

The smartest people were all raised on free speech, from inside the kgb wall to the alley of America or the caligraphy of China. If you can't find your inner voice you are just a biological droid... Inputs outputs...

Education=programing.
Education = freedom. Not educated, stupid person is a person who can be easily controlled. Intelligent, educated man, loves to be free. Capitalism pathetic breed of freedom. For the money, you can buy a lot. But for the money, you can not buy this freedom. Knowledge is power.

Perhaps this will help to define the limited freedom that we have.

Freedom Speech Easy Rider

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gc11mJGre10


Cool
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August 14, 2016, 08:53:14 PM
#82
Education level in the USA is becoming very low year for year because the USA rather spend 1 trillion in defense per year (black budgets etc included).

Economic  strength comes from intellegent people. Intelligent people aren't made by free speech but by good education. Good education has to be payed by tax money else see power law distribution and game theory -> fat elites that control everything -> us American corporatism.

That is what Masha Sha supports: Corporatism - even though he is just a small uneducated peasant.

Brainwashing 101.



Peasant is the greatest compliment ever made to me... Readying for the garden of Eden:) and in the meantime off to the market to exchange values with fellow peasants Wink.

The smartest people were all raised on free speech, from inside the kgb wall to the alley of America or the caligraphy of China. If you can't find your inner voice you are just a biological droid... Inputs outputs...

Education=programing.
Education = freedom. Not educated, stupid person is a person who can be easily controlled. Intelligent, educated man, loves to be free. Capitalism pathetic breed of freedom. For the money, you can buy a lot. But for the money, you can not buy this freedom. Knowledge is power.
legendary
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August 14, 2016, 06:42:41 PM
#81
Because you have been lied to for years... everyone has been lied to by the establishment...

Socialism is a good thing... it is the balance for Capitalism

Capitalism means letting the rich run the country and write all the laws to benefit themselves...

You don't want pure Capitalism... it's basically anarchy where the rich run everything... an Oligarchy of corporations

You do not want an Oligarchy where corporations write the laws (which is currently how America works)... this is bad news... a disaster in the making



One example... Martin Shkreli:
Capitalist greed let him raise the price of HIV meds from $13 to $750/pill... this could not happen with socialist healthcare... there is no profit, or greed...




But, as I said... you have been lied to... you think Capitalism is a good thing, when it is self-destructive... nobody ever told you the truth... you have to do your own research

Capitalism = rich people win (get a job and work for some rich asshole, so he gets richer while you get poorer)
Socialism = everyone is equal (in theory)

You don't know the difference between capitalism and corporatism. Don't feel bad, it's a common error.

lets just call is fascism.
legendary
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Merit: 1389
August 14, 2016, 05:20:06 PM
#80
Education level in the USA is becoming very low year for year because the USA rather spend 1 trillion in defense per year (black budgets etc included).

Economic  strength comes from intellegent people. Intelligent people aren't made by free speech but by good education. Good education has to be payed by tax money else see power law distribution and game theory -> fat elites that control everything -> us American corporatism.

That is what Masha Sha supports: Corporatism - even though he is just a small uneducated peasant.

Brainwashing 101.



Peasant is the greatest compliment ever made to me... Readying for the garden of Eden:) and in the meantime off to the market to exchange values with fellow peasants Wink.

The smartest people were all raised on free speech, from inside the kgb wall to the alley of America or the caligraphy of China. If you can't find your inner voice you are just a biological droid... Inputs outputs...

Education=programing.

No the smartest people are raised by good education.( e.g. scientist with Nobel prizes from authoritarian nations)
Free speech is one of the awesome things developed from good education.

And don't forget, Obama got the Nobel Peace Prize.     Huh Grin

H. Kissinger would be even a worst case.
But you could exchange the nobel prize with any other prize like i.e. the Fields-Medaille, it wouldnt change anything. I hope you get the gist of my argument.

Formal education isn't necessarily good education.    Cool
legendary
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Merit: 1145
August 14, 2016, 05:07:19 PM
#79
Education level in the USA is becoming very low year for year because the USA rather spend 1 trillion in defense per year (black budgets etc included).

Economic  strength comes from intellegent people. Intelligent people aren't made by free speech but by good education. Good education has to be payed by tax money else see power law distribution and game theory -> fat elites that control everything -> us American corporatism.

That is what Masha Sha supports: Corporatism - even though he is just a small uneducated peasant.

Brainwashing 101.



Peasant is the greatest compliment ever made to me... Readying for the garden of Eden:) and in the meantime off to the market to exchange values with fellow peasants Wink.

The smartest people were all raised on free speech, from inside the kgb wall to the alley of America or the caligraphy of China. If you can't find your inner voice you are just a biological droid... Inputs outputs...

Education=programing.

No the smartest people are raised by good education.( e.g. scientist with Nobel prizes from authoritarian nations)
Free speech is one of the awesome things developed from good education.

And don't forget, Obama got the Nobel Peace Prize.     Huh Grin

H. Kissinger would be even a worst case.
But you could exchange the nobel prize with any other prize like i.e. the Fields-Medaille, it wouldnt change anything. I hope you get the gist of my argument.
legendary
Activity: 4046
Merit: 1389
August 14, 2016, 04:40:33 PM
#78
Education level in the USA is becoming very low year for year because the USA rather spend 1 trillion in defense per year (black budgets etc included).

Economic  strength comes from intellegent people. Intelligent people aren't made by free speech but by good education. Good education has to be payed by tax money else see power law distribution and game theory -> fat elites that control everything -> us American corporatism.

That is what Masha Sha supports: Corporatism - even though he is just a small uneducated peasant.

Brainwashing 101.



Peasant is the greatest compliment ever made to me... Readying for the garden of Eden:) and in the meantime off to the market to exchange values with fellow peasants Wink.

The smartest people were all raised on free speech, from inside the kgb wall to the alley of America or the caligraphy of China. If you can't find your inner voice you are just a biological droid... Inputs outputs...

Education=programing.

No the smartest people are raised by good education.( e.g. scientist with Nobel prizes from authoritarian nations)
Free speech is one of the awesome things developed from good education.

And don't forget, Obama got the Nobel Peace Prize.     Huh Grin
legendary
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Merit: 1145
August 14, 2016, 04:27:50 PM
#77
Education level in the USA is becoming very low year for year because the USA rather spend 1 trillion in defense per year (black budgets etc included).

Economic  strength comes from intellegent people. Intelligent people aren't made by free speech but by good education. Good education has to be payed by tax money else see power law distribution and game theory -> fat elites that control everything -> us American corporatism.

That is what Masha Sha supports: Corporatism - even though he is just a small uneducated peasant.

Brainwashing 101.



Peasant is the greatest compliment ever made to me... Readying for the garden of Eden:) and in the meantime off to the market to exchange values with fellow peasants Wink.

The smartest people were all raised on free speech, from inside the kgb wall to the alley of America or the caligraphy of China. If you can't find your inner voice you are just a biological droid... Inputs outputs...

Education=programing.

No the smartest people are raised by good education.( e.g. scientist with Nobel prizes from authoritarian nations)
Free speech is one of the awesome things developed from good education.
legendary
Activity: 4046
Merit: 1389
August 14, 2016, 03:47:38 PM
#76
Socialism is best defined as a method of self governing where free people work together to do anything they want, individually, with society voluntarily watching each others back, to keep crooks and criminals from hurting anybody.

Cool

Thank you for restoring common send to this thread

Right. And anybody who is against a free people freely choosing socialism if that is what they want, is against freedom.

Cool
member
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August 14, 2016, 03:45:05 PM
#75
Socialism is best defined as a method of self governing where free people work together to do anything they want, individually, with society voluntarily watching each others back, to keep crooks and criminals from hurting anybody.

Cool

Thank you for restoring common send to this thread
legendary
Activity: 4046
Merit: 1389
August 14, 2016, 03:35:00 PM
#74
Socialism is best defined as a method of self governing where free people work together to do anything they want, individually, with society voluntarily watching each others back, to keep crooks and criminals from hurting anybody.

Cool
sr. member
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August 14, 2016, 02:56:56 PM
#73
Education level in the USA is becoming very low year for year because the USA rather spend 1 trillion in defense per year (black budgets etc included).

Economic  strength comes from intellegent people. Intelligent people aren't made by free speech but by good education. Good education has to be payed by tax money else see power law distribution and game theory -> fat elites that control everything -> us American corporatism.

That is what Masha Sha supports: Corporatism - even though he is just a small uneducated peasant.

Brainwashing 101.



Peasant is the greatest compliment ever made to me... Readying for the garden of Eden:) and in the meantime off to the market to exchange values with fellow peasants Wink.

The smartest people were all raised on free speech, from inside the kgb wall to the alley of America or the caligraphy of China. If you can't find your inner voice you are just a biological droid... Inputs outputs...

Education=programing.
legendary
Activity: 2464
Merit: 1145
August 14, 2016, 01:21:31 PM
#72
Education level in the USA is becoming very low year for year because the USA rather spend 1 trillion in defense per year (black budgets etc included).

Economic  strength comes from intellegent people. Intelligent people aren't made by free speech but by good education. Good education has to be payed by tax money else see power law distribution and game theory -> fat elites that control everything -> us American corporatism.

That is what Masha Sha supports: Corporatism - even though he is just a small uneducated peasant.

Brainwashing 101.
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Merit: 250
August 14, 2016, 12:47:39 PM
#71
Socialism: taking a share of YOUR Bitcoin to spend it on something not decided by you. Do you agree to it, or coercion would be necessary?

not true at all, no one in Canada has anythign stolen by our very socialist govt and the majority of Government programs benefit all Canadians. Not a single Canadian is against our universally free health care, you never hear us complain about or socialized programs, we only take advantage of them and you never hear us complain that other people decided on our money because its done through taxes wich Americans already have, in Canada we have a bigger middle class and a better quality of life for our worst off.

remember a chain is only as strong as its weakest link.

Plus , you spend the money anyways
instead of taxes that cover you schoolign and health care, you pay through the nose for school and health care.

You end up paying anyways

How much of your Bitcoin are your ready to forfeit in taxes each years (wealth tax) and how much of your new Bitcoin (income tax) and how much at each purchase (vat)? How much do you consider fair?

Socialism always end up Venezuelan... There is no other option because greed isn't the product of capitalism bit of the human nature and particularly women hypergamie...

How much is necessary to give everyone free education and health care. But keep your bitcoin to buy what you want as you seem to think sharing is in itself a bad idea. Until you need help then you gonna die like the lonely dog you are.
I also like the idea of ​​free primary education, free medical care, free kindergartens. This is bad?! I pay my taxes in all cases. Why not send the money exactly where they are needed?

Well yes, thats the problem, money isnt distributed where its the most needed. Do you think that socialism will fix that?

Don't know. Socialism gives money to education and medical care. In USA all money goes to army. What's most important to you?
In the Soviet Union, a lot of money was spent on the army. But in the Soviet Union, a lot of spending on education and health care. Education, medetsina, army, were the best in the Soviet Union. But this state of affairs, many people do not like it. On this and the collapse of the Soviet Union. Now they are trying to undermine Russia
legendary
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August 14, 2016, 12:33:21 PM
#70
Socialism: taking a share of YOUR Bitcoin to spend it on something not decided by you. Do you agree to it, or coercion would be necessary?

not true at all, no one in Canada has anythign stolen by our very socialist govt and the majority of Government programs benefit all Canadians. Not a single Canadian is against our universally free health care, you never hear us complain about or socialized programs, we only take advantage of them and you never hear us complain that other people decided on our money because its done through taxes wich Americans already have, in Canada we have a bigger middle class and a better quality of life for our worst off.

remember a chain is only as strong as its weakest link.

Plus , you spend the money anyways
instead of taxes that cover you schoolign and health care, you pay through the nose for school and health care.

You end up paying anyways

How much of your Bitcoin are your ready to forfeit in taxes each years (wealth tax) and how much of your new Bitcoin (income tax) and how much at each purchase (vat)? How much do you consider fair?

Socialism always end up Venezuelan... There is no other option because greed isn't the product of capitalism bit of the human nature and particularly women hypergamie...

How much is necessary to give everyone free education and health care. But keep your bitcoin to buy what you want as you seem to think sharing is in itself a bad idea. Until you need help then you gonna die like the lonely dog you are.
I also like the idea of ​​free primary education, free medical care, free kindergartens. This is bad?! I pay my taxes in all cases. Why not send the money exactly where they are needed?

Well yes, thats the problem, money isnt distributed where its the most needed. Do you think that socialism will fix that?

Don't know. Socialism gives money to education and medical care. In USA all money goes to army. What's most important to you?
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