Wilder vs. Fury II: The Rematch is On - page 11.

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I think Wilder will make sure Fury won't get up this time.

I think what we should pay attention is on how Fury were able to stand up after many knock down and still fight like he was winning the fight.
Fury is strong, he can sustain the power of Wilder, but according to post above, Wilder that time had hand injury, maybe that is the reason?

But he has 2 hands. He could have punched Fury with other hand (if only he could). Btw, Fury is a natural heavyweight, while Wilder looks like he gained muscles to be in that division. That is why Fury survived that two KO's.

My prediction will be Fury by decision, or slight possibility by KO in 10+ round. Wilder is aggressive and active in the ring. He sure will be tired and lost a lot of stamina when "champion" rounds will start.

Same prediction here. Fury by UD. I am not considering a KO by Fury, much less from Wilder. Wilder is relying too much on his strong one-punch, not even a combination of punches. That is not a scoring machine that he's got in his hands. There is power in them, of course, but then I doubt it will knock Fury out to sleep. And if the 12 rounds will be fully consumed by both fighters, Wilder will definitely come short in points. Fury got this one, for me.

By the way, the power of Wilder should not be underestimated in the late rounds. The first time these two met, it was in rounds 9 and 12 that Fury was downed.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on February 20, 2020, 10:30:14 PM

Tyson Fury has become a personal hero of mine. He said that he will binge on cocaine and cheap $30 dollar hookers if he wins the fight hehehehe.

I didnt not believe such a thing but he really did say this! A happily married man!
'After this fight, I'm going to binge out on cocaine and hookers,' Fury told Daily Caller. 'Is there anything better than cocaine and hookers?'

He says some other gross things in the article here:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/boxing/article-8015969/Tyson-Fury-vows-cocaine-cheap-30-hooker-binge-Deontay-Wilder-rematch.html

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Quote from: Finestream on February 18, 2020, 11:29:34 AM

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The first fight it was Fury who won it but corrupt judges scored a draw to preserve their boy Wilder as obviously he can make more money than Fury or wilder is a good market than fury.

I have no idea what the judges were watching during that fight, Wilder was controlling the center but Fury was the technical boxer and Wilder was always waiting for the big punch to land and it only came late in the rounds and even after landing the deadly punches Fury was able to make a come back be competitive for the rest of the rounds.

Quote from: Finestream on February 18, 2020, 11:29:34 AM

This rematch is to cut that controversy, and maybe Fury only said he will knock out Wilder as he doesn't want to get rob again, the question is can he really do that, if he gets aggressive in the fight, the advantage will be on Wilder as he likes to fight toe to toe.

The rematch got the attention of all the causal fans and i bet they will be making a lot of money and it is good for boxing as these fighters are simply the best they can and in their prime and anything can happen in a fight.

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Quote from: JollyGood on February 20, 2020, 02:18:08 PM

I just cannot see Wilder getting fortunate this time. No dodgy scorecards from suspect score judges are going to save Wilder this time.

Fury will happily box for the full 12 rounds it will be no problem for him but he will take any opportunity to knock out Wilder before that. As for Wilder, he made a mistake taking the first fight because he thought Fury would be rough after his time away from the ring and those few rounds he had under his belt would be of no use against the punching power Wilder has but he miscalculated. Now that Fury is back to his best Wilder has no chance of winning the bout though he might cause a problem or two for Fury but in the end it will be won by Fury who will teach Wilder a boxing lesson by knocking him out cold.

Yea, but if his cut opens up again, it could be game over for him.

Wilder isn't Otto Wallin, if that cut opens up and fury can't see out of an eye, you can be sure that Wilder will go in for the kill.

I don't think he is at all scared of getting into a swingup with Fury, since he would almost certainly bang him out if one happened.

Wilder is definitely going to try and open up that cut, and if it does, the outcome will shift to favor Wilder.

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I just cannot see Wilder getting fortunate this time. No dodgy scorecards from suspect score judges are going to save Wilder this time.

Fury will happily box for the full 12 rounds it will be no problem for him but he will take any opportunity to knock out Wilder before that. As for Wilder, he made a mistake taking the first fight because he thought Fury would be rough after his time away from the ring and those few rounds he had under his belt would be of no use against the punching power Wilder has but he miscalculated. Now that Fury is back to his best Wilder has no chance of winning the bout though he might cause a problem or two for Fury but in the end it will be won by Fury who will teach Wilder a boxing lesson by knocking him out cold.

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Quote from: JollyGood on February 19, 2020, 10:12:21 PM

I will go for Tyson Fury to knock out Deontay Wilder Grin

I guess you'll get an interesting odds for that if you are betting.

Fury to KO wilder in round 1 - @26
Fury to KO Wilder (entire game) - @5.

https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/boxing/international/matchups/wilder-deontay-fury-tyson-5da407af5f72f70b28639a7f

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Quote from: Questat on February 20, 2020, 07:48:44 AM

I think what we should pay attention is on how Fury were able to stand up after many knock down and still fight like he was winning the fight.
Fury is strong, he can sustain the power of Wilder, but according to post above, Wilder that time had hand injury, maybe that is the reason?

Tyson Fury is the only boxer who got up after getting a full power punch from Deontay Wilder and then come up and dominate the rest of the round, i am not aware of the hand injury and Deontay Wilder never claimed that he was injured during that fight.

Quote from: TopTort777 on February 20, 2020, 08:41:51 AM

Fury is a natural heavyweight, while Wilder looks like he gained muscles to be in that division. That is why Fury survived that two KO's.

Deontay Wilder just weighs around 212 pounds when they fought Tyson Fury the first time and Deontay Wilder has the power to knock out anyone in the heavyweight division and he is regarded as the hardest puncher in history and his knockout of Luis Ortiz was brutal and that was not even a clean punch to the chin and yet he was unconscious. No one doubts the power of Deontay Wilder.

In this fight Tyson Fury will be coming in heavy than the first fight and he changed his coaches and from what he says he will be looking for knockout Wilder from the start, the first fight Fury was able to manage the distance and this time i am expecting him to attack and make this a dirty fight, either way it will be a great contest for the fans.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on February 20, 2020, 07:16:07 AM

I think Wilder will make sure Fury won't get up this time.

I think what we should pay attention is on how Fury were able to stand up after many knock down and still fight like he was winning the fight.
Fury is strong, he can sustain the power of Wilder, but according to post above, Wilder that time had hand injury, maybe that is the reason?

But he has 2 hands. He could have punched Fury with other hand (if only he could). Btw, Fury is a natural heavyweight, while Wilder looks like he gained muscles to be in that division. That is why Fury survived that two KO's.

My prediction will be Fury by decision, or slight possibility by KO in 10+ round. Wilder is aggressive and active in the ring. He sure will be tired and lost a lot of stamina when "champion" rounds will start.

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Quote from: bisdak40 on February 20, 2020, 07:16:07 AM

I think Wilder will make sure Fury won't get up this time.

I think what we should pay attention is on how Fury were able to stand up after many knock down and still fight like he was winning the fight.
Fury is strong, he can sustain the power of Wilder, but according to post above, Wilder that time had hand injury, maybe that is the reason?

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Quote from: stadus on February 20, 2020, 02:50:38 AM

Fury to KO wilder in round 1 - @26
Fury to KO Wilder (entire game) - @5.

https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/boxing/international/matchups/wilder-deontay-fury-tyson-5da407af5f72f70b28639a7f

I'm putting my money on Manny Pacquaio's prediction which is also a knock-out by Wilder.

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Wilder KO 10: “Never bet against a puncher, particularly one like Deontay Wilder. I look at Wilder like I do at a Mike Tyson, another puncher. I see Wilder winning this rematch with Tyson Fury by 10th-round knockout.”

I think Wilder will make sure Fury won't get up this time.

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Quote from: JollyGood on February 19, 2020, 10:12:21 PM

I will go for Tyson Fury to knock out Deontay Wilder Grin

I guess you'll get an interesting odds for that if you are betting.

Fury to KO wilder in round 1 - @26
Fury to KO Wilder (entire game) - @5.

https://sportsbet.io/sports/event/boxing/international/matchups/wilder-deontay-fury-tyson-5da407af5f72f70b28639a7f

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I will go for Tyson Fury to knock out Deontay Wilder Grin

Fury was hardly back in shape after a long stint out away from the sport and he won that match on a points decision but was robbed by pathetic scorecard politics. Everybody knows Fury won that fight.

This time with the correct period for training and that first bout under his belt I would say Wilder will be knocked out by rounds 4, 5 or 6 and not by TKO, I would not be surprised to see he on the floor out for the count.

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Quote from: Diced90 on February 19, 2020, 07:31:56 PM

I'm definitely putting my money on the Wilder knockout for now.

Apparently he broke his hand before the first fight, and still almost knocked Fury out. With a fully functional hand, he should put him to sleep this time.

I don't know about this, but it looks like he was not injured during the fight, what I am seeing is that Wilder can't hit Fury because Fury had a decent good movement in boxing that he can doge Wilder's punch easily, actually it was Fury who is scoring pretty well in that fight and I can't believe it ended up a draw.

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2 draws in a row? thats pure corruption.I also dont see the possibilities of knocking out Wilder and if he turns out to be aggressive this time then it would be still a gamble just like what others said on here.

I agree to the point or view that decision is somewhat isnt right but well all things do depend on judges itself and those decisions were final.This isnt the first time to see on seeing contreversial decisions though.

It do exist just like into other sport. Business as usual i shall say.

Looks like the odds of there being two draws on a row for this for these fights are only about 1 in 400.

Crazier odds have definitely occurred and still happen all the time. I actually wouldn't be surprised if it was another draw and we end up seeing a trilogy fight.

If that goes to another draw people will definitely lose interest. Realistically, I don't think it will happen. Either Wilder will straight up knock Fury out, or it will be a TKO based on the three-knockdown rule. Either that, or Fury will stay slick and not go down for a points win.

I'm definitely putting my money on the Wilder knockout for now.

Apparently he broke his hand before the first fight, and still almost knocked Fury out. With a fully functional hand, he should put him to sleep this time.

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Quote from: Jating on February 18, 2020, 08:13:36 AM

The only competitive fighters outside of the two is Anthony Joshua, so we may want to see the winner fight AJ instead of another rematch in my opinion.

Well it used to be Wilder and Joshua before, I think there were talks of a fight between the two many years ago but because of money issues that time, it didn't happen. And then Fury entering the scene and making a comeback. So yeah, those three needs to face each other at least.

Quote from: Jating on February 18, 2020, 08:13:36 AM

This will make the three best heavyweight fighters trying to proved amongst themselves who is the best. And then make other heavyweight to chase them so that that division lit up again, just like in the 80's and early 90's.

We can't really compare era's, those three really separate themselves from the rest of the heavyweight right now. Unlike before wherein there's a lot of "US" made boxers until the Klitscho brothers come along and dominated the division for many years.

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Quote from: stomachgrowls on February 18, 2020, 04:04:08 PM

2 draws in a row? thats pure corruption.I also dont see the possibilities of knocking out Wilder and if he turns out to be aggressive this time then it would be still a gamble just like what others said on here.

I agree to the point or view that decision is somewhat isnt right but well all things do depend on judges itself and those decisions were final.This isnt the first time to see on seeing contreversial decisions though.

It do exist just like into other sport. Business as usual i shall say.

Looks like the odds of there being two draws on a row for this for these fights are only about 1 in 400.

Crazier odds have definitely occurred and still happen all the time. I actually wouldn't be surprised if it was another draw and we end up seeing a trilogy fight.

If that goes to another draw people will definitely lose interest. Realistically, I don't think it will happen. Either Wilder will straight up knock Fury out, or it will be a TKO based on the three-knockdown rule. Either that, or Fury will stay slick and not go down for a points win.

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According to the interview I watched Fury said that he will knock out Wilder in two rounds. And yes this is one of the best heavyweight match that must watch. I have a feeling that either of the two will sleep on the canvas.

Fury is not a knock out artist, so I don't know if he can really accomplished that in two rounds. Of course, fighters always makes those kind of predictions that they will going to knock out his opponents. Maybe he is just playing psyche war against Wilder. And remember that Fury is the one who tasted the canvass, he was able to get up though (miraculously).

Part of publicity to get viewers attentions, it's tough to accomplish such claims since Wilder also have the same capabilities to fight back and try
to win over Fury. We don't have any idea who's going to win since both fighters wanted to prove something inside the ring.
The fight will be interesting if this two fighters start to throw words against each others.

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According to the interview I watched Fury said that he will knock out Wilder in two rounds. And yes this is one of the best heavyweight match that must watch. I have a feeling that either of the two will sleep on the canvas.

Fury is not a knock out artist, so I don't know if he can really accomplished that in two rounds. Of course, fighters always makes those kind of predictions that they will going to knock out his opponents. Maybe he is just playing psyche war against Wilder. And remember that Fury is the one who tasted the canvass, he was able to get up though (miraculously).

I think he is, because of his 29 fights, 20 of them are won by him through knockout, although compared to Wilder of all his 43 fights, 41 of these are won by knockout, what I am saying is that Fury also has a power to knock out an opponent.

for reference on record.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyson_Fury
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deontay_Wilder

As you all can see in their latest fight Wilder knock down Fury two times a knock puncher can finish the bout anytime, Wilder has a big chance to knock Fury he has a big percentage and I don't believe he can knock Wilder in two rounds because if he slug it out or go toe to toe he is going to be in big trouble.

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Quote from: btc_angela on February 19, 2020, 07:31:07 AM

Quote from: Sushunt on February 19, 2020, 07:10:21 AM

According to the interview I watched Fury said that he will knock out Wilder in two rounds. And yes this is one of the best heavyweight match that must watch. I have a feeling that either of the two will sleep on the canvas.

Fury is not a knock out artist, so I don't know if he can really accomplished that in two rounds. Of course, fighters always makes those kind of predictions that they will going to knock out his opponents. Maybe he is just playing psyche war against Wilder. And remember that Fury is the one who tasted the canvass, he was able to get up though (miraculously).

Between those two Wilder is the master of trashtalk, why Fury is more like a clown or a joker. Wilder talks more to offend the persons, while Fury usually turn everything in to joke or to make a laugh on his opponent.

Fury "tasted the canvass" two times (9 and 12 round), but according to one of judge cards, he won the fight by 110:114 score. So these two "tastes" I wont count as a real knockdowns.

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Quote from: Sushunt on February 19, 2020, 07:10:21 AM

According to the interview I watched Fury said that he will knock out Wilder in two rounds. And yes this is one of the best heavyweight match that must watch. I have a feeling that either of the two will sleep on the canvas.

Fury is not a knock out artist, so I don't know if he can really accomplished that in two rounds. Of course, fighters always makes those kind of predictions that they will going to knock out his opponents. Maybe he is just playing psyche war against Wilder. And remember that Fury is the one who tasted the canvass, he was able to get up though (miraculously).

I think he is, because of his 29 fights, 20 of them are won by him through knockout, although compared to Wilder of all his 43 fights, 41 of these are won by knockout, what I am saying is that Fury also has a power to knock out an opponent.

for reference on record.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tyson_Fury
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Deontay_Wilder

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