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February 19, 2020, 07:47:56 AM

Personally I am not too fan on heavyweight fights but because of Fury and Wilder, I starting to follow them, also, I am not a fan of AJ's style so I want to see him lose against any of the two fighters.

I'm not also a big fan of heavyweights either but seeing these three great heavyweights Fury, Wilder, Joshua creating waves in the heavyweights plus new up and coming name in the heavyweights like Dubois, heavyweight is back on it's hey day again, just  like in the days of Mike Tyson, Holyfield and Lewis.
Yeah right, this heavy weights fighters are bringing back those old days. It's intense to see that many fans are now engaging again watching those
heavy weights contenders.
Wilder, Fury and Joshua are bringing the  the fun and entertainment to this sports.
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February 19, 2020, 07:31:07 AM
According to the  interview I watched Fury said that he will knock out Wilder in two rounds. And yes this is one of the best heavyweight match that must watch. I have a feeling that either of the two will sleep on the canvas.


Fury is not a knock out artist, so I don't know if he can really accomplished that in two rounds. Of course, fighters always makes those kind of predictions that they will going to knock out his opponents. Maybe he is just playing psyche war against Wilder. And remember that Fury is the one who tasted the canvass, he was able to get up though (miraculously).
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February 19, 2020, 07:10:21 AM
According to the  interview I watched Fury said that he will knock out Wilder in two rounds. And yes this is one of the best heavyweight match that must watch. I have a feeling that either of the two will sleep on the canvas.
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February 18, 2020, 06:53:23 PM

Personally I am not too fan on heavyweight fights but because of Fury and Wilder, I starting to follow them, also, I am not a fan of AJ's style so I want to see him lose against any of the two fighters.

I'm not also a big fan of heavyweights either but seeing these three great heavyweights Fury, Wilder, Joshua creating waves in the heavyweights plus new up and coming name in the heavyweights like Dubois, heavyweight is back on it's hey day again, just  like in the days of Mike Tyson, Holyfield and Lewis.
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February 18, 2020, 06:50:03 PM
It do exist just like into other sport. Business as usual i shall say.
You nailed it right, this is just pure business though that's why the fight is so exciting because they know how to hype us based on what we like, and here's the thing that I believe, any competition that there's a human judges can easily be corrupted even in the beauty contest, so it's no different, more on this since there's a lot of money at stake.
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February 18, 2020, 04:04:08 PM

The first fight it was Fury who won it but corrupt judges scored a draw to preserve their boy Wilder as obviously he can make more money than Fury or wilder is a good market than fury.

This rematch is to cut that controversy, and maybe Fury only said he will knock out Wilder as he doesn't want to get rob again, the question is can he really do that, if he gets aggressive in the fight, the advantage will be on  Wilder as he likes to fight toe to toe.

I wouldn't go as far as to say that the judges were corrupt. Judges look for different things and score things differently, it's just human bias, that's why there are three judges.

Fury is definitely not going knock Wilder out though lol, he's just saying that to get into his head. Everybody knows Fury would get demolished if it comes to a swingup.

It's going to go to decision again if Wilder doesn't know him out. If Fury can avoid touching the canvas, he wont need to worry about getting robbed on points again.

Though if he somehow gets another draw, then we can start calling corruption.
2 draws in a row? thats pure  corruption.I also dont see the possibilities of knocking out Wilder and if he turns out to be aggressive this time then it would be still a gamble just like what others said on here.

I agree to the point or view that decision is somewhat isnt right but well all things do depend on judges itself and those decisions were final.This isnt the first time to see on seeing contreversial decisions though.

It do exist just like into other sport. Business as usual i shall say.
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February 18, 2020, 11:54:30 AM

The first fight it was Fury who won it but corrupt judges scored a draw to preserve their boy Wilder as obviously he can make more money than Fury or wilder is a good market than fury.

This rematch is to cut that controversy, and maybe Fury only said he will knock out Wilder as he doesn't want to get rob again, the question is can he really do that, if he gets aggressive in the fight, the advantage will be on  Wilder as he likes to fight toe to toe.

I wouldn't go as far as to say that the judges were corrupt. Judges look for different things and score things differently, it's just human bias, that's why there are three judges.

Fury is definitely not going knock Wilder out though lol, he's just saying that to get into his head. Everybody knows Fury would get demolished if it comes to a swingup.

It's going to go to decision again if Wilder doesn't know him out. If Fury can avoid touching the canvas, he wont need to worry about getting robbed on points again.

Though if he somehow gets another draw, then we can start calling corruption.
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February 18, 2020, 11:29:34 AM
Let's say Fury would win, of course Wilder would want another shot, and since the fight generated a good amount of sales so another fight happen, and if in the next fight it will be Wilder that will win, so we might see a maximum of 4 fights for this one,... that's too boring IMO, just give other boxers a chance to prove they can also compete with the big names, not with these fighters only for the sake of generating more money.
The fight depends upon Wilder able to land the knockout punch and that is how he usually wins and not with his technical striking and since they both danced earlier and Fury had the better match and Wilder not able to knock him out this fight will be the same and since Fury is talking about knocking out Wilder which i do not see that coming as he is not a knockout artist and if he really tries and lunges forward he might get caught by Wilder and one punch from Wilder could knock anyone.
The first fight it was Fury who won it but corrupt judges scored a draw to preserve their boy Wilder as obviously he can make more money than Fury or wilder is a good market than fury.

This rematch is to cut that controversy, and maybe Fury only said he will knock out Wilder as he doesn't want to get rob again, the question is can he really do that, if he gets aggressive in the fight, the advantage will be on  Wilder as he likes to fight toe to toe.
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February 18, 2020, 08:28:16 AM
Let's say Fury would win, of course Wilder would want another shot, and since the fight generated a good amount of sales so another fight happen, and if in the next fight it will be Wilder that will win, so we might see a maximum of 4 fights for this one,... that's too boring IMO, just give other boxers a chance to prove they can also compete with the big names, not with these fighters only for the sake of generating more money.
The fight depends upon Wilder able to land the knockout punch and that is how he usually wins and not with his technical striking and since they both danced earlier and Fury had the better match and Wilder not able to knock him out this fight will be the same and since Fury is talking about knocking out Wilder which i do not see that coming as he is not a knockout artist and if he really tries and lunges forward he might get caught by Wilder and one punch from Wilder could knock anyone.
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February 18, 2020, 08:18:31 AM
The only competitive fighters outside of the two is Anthony Joshua, so we may want to see the winner fight AJ instead of another rematch in my opinion.
of course I would love this one, even the loser can fight AJ and might give him a problem as we see him vulnerable losing to a fat guy.

This will make the three best heavyweight fighters trying to proved amongst themselves who is the best. And then make other heavyweight to chase them so that that division lit up again, just like in the 80's and early 90's.
Personally I am not too fan on heavyweight fights but because of Fury and Wilder, I starting to follow them, also, I am not a fan of AJ's style so I want to see him lose against any of the two fighters.
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February 18, 2020, 08:13:36 AM
Does anybody still interested on rematch?  Grin
That depends on what will happen in the match this coming scheduled fight, actually what we are going to see is already a rematch, if there is another fight after the rematch, we will be seeing a trilogy.  I maybe interested but like I said, depending on what I will witness in the rematch.
The first match end up a controversial draw, so this is a fight to determine who really wins that which I assume it will not again end up a draw.

Let's say Fury would win, of course Wilder would want another shot, and since the fight generated a good amount of sales so another fight happen, and if in the next fight it will be Wilder that will win, so we might see a maximum of 4 fights for this one,... that's too boring IMO, just give other boxers a chance to prove they can also compete with the big names, not with these fighters only for the sake of generating more money.

The only competitive fighters outside of the two is Anthony Joshua, so we may want to see the winner fight AJ instead of another rematch in my opinion.

This will make the three best heavyweight fighters trying to proved amongst themselves who is the best. And then make other heavyweight to chase them so that that division lit up again, just like in the 80's and early 90's.
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February 18, 2020, 07:40:30 AM
Does anybody still interested on rematch?  Grin
That depends on what will happen in the match this coming scheduled fight, actually what we are going to see is already a rematch, if there is another fight after the rematch, we will be seeing a trilogy.  I maybe interested but like I said, depending on what I will witness in the rematch.
The first match end up a controversial draw, so this is a fight to determine who really wins that which I assume it will not again end up a draw.

Let's say Fury would win, of course Wilder would want another shot, and since the fight generated a good amount of sales so another fight happen, and if in the next fight it will be Wilder that will win, so we might see a maximum of 4 fights for this one,... that's too boring IMO, just give other boxers a chance to prove they can also compete with the big names, not with these fighters only for the sake of generating more money.
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February 18, 2020, 05:03:17 AM
Does anybody still interested on rematch?  Grin
That depends on what will happen in the match this coming scheduled fight, actually what we are going to see is already a rematch, if there is another fight after the rematch, we will be seeing a trilogy.  I maybe interested but like I said, depending on what I will witness in the rematch.
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February 18, 2020, 04:49:42 AM
Well it sounds like their already planning for a Trilogy however this match ends up

Wilder-Fury II has trilogy rematch clause - Warren

"The loser has 30 days to call on the rematch and that has to be accepted," Warren told BBC Radio 5 Live.

https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/28722461/wilder-fury-ii-trilogy-rematch-clause-warren

That will be possible if the two fighters agreed for a rematch and if the fights want the two to go for it again if the third match is not appealing anymore there is no use even if they both want to have it again, take the case of the Joshua Ruiz fight they are both even but the fans and the promoters don't want it to happen again, because they thought they it will have the same result.

What can we expect, they are into business and this match up is really a very competitive match, so we will likely see a trilogy after this one.
Regardless on who will win as long as the fight is competitive, we can expect to see them fight again.

it could be another classic Pacquiao vs Marquez fights in the past.

I do find that Pacquiao and Marquez fight quite entertaining rather than into this Wilder-Fury trilogy. Taking aside that AJ and Ruiz fight which it doesnt really need to have a 3rd match.

They will surely arrange fights if they do make out money and yes this is a business so its anticipated or do have high chance for it to happen as long it would benefit them.

Does anybody still interested on rematch?  Grin


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February 18, 2020, 03:26:57 AM
Well it sounds like their already planning for a Trilogy however this match ends up

Wilder-Fury II has trilogy rematch clause - Warren

"The loser has 30 days to call on the rematch and that has to be accepted," Warren told BBC Radio 5 Live.

https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/28722461/wilder-fury-ii-trilogy-rematch-clause-warren

That will be possible if the two fighters agreed for a rematch and if the fights want the two to go for it again if the third match is not appealing anymore there is no use even if they both want to have it again, take the case of the Joshua Ruiz fight they are both even but the fans and the promoters don't want it to happen again, because they thought they it will have the same result.

What can we expect, they are into business and this match up is really a very competitive match, so we will likely see a trilogy after this one.
Regardless on who will win as long as the fight is competitive, we can expect to see them fight again.

it could be another classic Pacquiao vs Marquez fights in the past.
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February 18, 2020, 03:04:29 AM
Well it sounds like their already planning for a Trilogy however this match ends up

Wilder-Fury II has trilogy rematch clause - Warren

"The loser has 30 days to call on the rematch and that has to be accepted," Warren told BBC Radio 5 Live.

https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/28722461/wilder-fury-ii-trilogy-rematch-clause-warren

That will be possible if the two fighters agreed for a rematch and if the fights want the two to go for it again if the third match is not appealing anymore there is no use even if they both want to have it again, take the case of the Joshua Ruiz fight they are both even but the fans and the promoters don't want it to happen again, because they thought they it will have the same result.
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February 18, 2020, 02:09:51 AM
It's not really Fury who said that in that article but it was Wilder but for me both fighters cannot beat Tyson on his prime, both fighters did not face fighters that Tyson knock out in his prime, there is only one baddest boxer of all time and that's Mike Tyson.
There is no point in comparing fighters in other generations and during the reign Mike Tyson was the baddest boxers and so does Evander Holyfield and Lennox Lewis and after that generation we never saw a competition in the Heavyweight division until recently with Tyson Fury, Deontay Wilder, Anthony Joshua and Andy Ruiz in the mix challenging each other for the baddest man title and the most important aspect is that we are seeing these fights in their prime than the usual boxing gimmicks of milking the cow till they make the maximum money and then go for the dream fights the fans are looking for.
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February 18, 2020, 12:25:29 AM
Well it sounds like their already planning for a Trilogy however this match ends up

Wilder-Fury II has trilogy rematch clause - Warren

"The loser has 30 days to call on the rematch and that has to be accepted," Warren told BBC Radio 5 Live.

https://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/id/28722461/wilder-fury-ii-trilogy-rematch-clause-warren
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February 17, 2020, 10:30:20 PM
Its quite entertaining to look for that kind of aggression but going too much or overboard isnt already appealing.I agree that most of boxers nowadays are not really that aggressive compared on previous decades.

Im not saying im underestimating the current generation but i dont really believe that Fury would able to beat up Tyson on his 80's? I can already foreshadow on what would happen.  Grin

Well, to be honest it's quite possible to be cool and composed and still be an absolute nightmare. So I don't even know if aggression matters that much. If anything, it could make boxers act reckless during their fights.

I'd still lean towards Mike Tyson against practically every heavyweight now though, not because he was aggressive, but because he was a straight up monster.

That's probably his skills (his power), but it didn't help him last in the sports with good record as time comes he was already losing.
His got Losses 6 in his entire boxing career but he is still entertaining compared to boxers who have no loses like Mayweather for instance so he is a legend but in terms of style, he is not as smart as the boxer I cited in my example but that's my point of view only.


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with having a KO percentage of 75.86%

I dont see that this isnt a good record.Yes, he does have some defeats but all of his career which is more entertaining and you can
really feel the true essence of boxing. Mayweather is good but not really that my type in way of his fighting style.Undefeated sounds great
but theres always a thing that lacks.
That is a high percentage for a knockout he was a beast in the ring. Grin

I have a little competition going on who you will think will knock out who for a small prize for your prediction.
Feel free to enter into it here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5223732.new#new

Cant wait for this fight. It should be a stinger as nobody really has a clear picture of who they think will win! Wink
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February 17, 2020, 07:42:59 PM
Its quite entertaining to look for that kind of aggression but going too much or overboard isnt already appealing.I agree that most of boxers nowadays are not really that aggressive compared on previous decades.

Im not saying im underestimating the current generation but i dont really believe that Fury would able to beat up Tyson on his 80's? I can already foreshadow on what would happen.  Grin

Well, to be honest it's quite possible to be cool and composed and still be an absolute nightmare. So I don't even know if aggression matters that much. If anything, it could make boxers act reckless during their fights.

I'd still lean towards Mike Tyson against practically every heavyweight now though, not because he was aggressive, but because he was a straight up monster.

That's probably his skills (his power), but it didn't help him last in the sports with good record as time comes he was already losing.
His got Losses 6 in his entire boxing career but he is still entertaining compared to boxers who have no loses like Mayweather for instance so he is a legend but in terms of style, he is not as smart as the boxer I cited in my example but that's my point of view only.


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with having a KO percentage of 75.86%

I dont see that this isnt a good record.Yes, he does have some defeats but all of his career which is more entertaining and you can
really feel the true essence of boxing. Mayweather is good but not really that my type in way of his fighting style.Undefeated sounds great
but theres always a thing that lacks.
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