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December 18, 2019, 10:28:48 AM
#71
Two months to go and the build up is great I just hope fans and bettors will not be disappointed just like what happen to the Joshua Ruiz rematch, where it did not live to expectation, because Ruiz has been busy eating all he can going to the match, and some people call him scammer for not going to the fight well prepared.
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December 18, 2019, 07:49:38 AM
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Best chance for Wilder to win is to knock out his opponent and he needs to be smart in this rematch to knock Fury out so this might not end in a draw or worse Fury might win as in the previous fight a lot of fans disagree with the results, it should be fury who won the fight, and that doubt should be eliminated if Wilder will look for a kill.
The only way Deontay Wilder will win this rematch is by knockout and even in his fight against Ortiz if you look at the score cards, Ortiz will be winning the rounds majority of the time and even Deontay Wilder knew he just need a punch to win the fight and even in their first fight Deontay Wilder landed a knockout blow that floored Tyson Fury but he woke up like a ghost after getting floored and that was the difference between Fury and the rest of his opponents.
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December 18, 2019, 07:15:02 AM
#69
When we talk about natural power and skills, Wilder I'd the best among the rest, we have seen what played out at the first match and hope to see a replay in that will show more of Wilder. Hopefully to see Wilder still defend his title as the best in the business. This will be the best of the best fight in the history of heavy weight championship.
Best chance for Wilder to win is to knock out his opponent and he needs to be smart in this rematch to knock Fury out so this might not end in a draw or worse Fury might win as in the previous fight a lot of fans disagree with the results, it should be fury who won the fight, and that doubt should be eliminated if Wilder will look for a kill.
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December 18, 2019, 06:55:58 AM
#68
When we talk about natural power and skills, Wilder I'd the best among the rest, we have seen what played out at the first match and hope to see a replay in that will show more of Wilder. Hopefully to see Wilder still defend his title as the best in the business. This will be the best of the best fight in the history of heavy weight championship.
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December 18, 2019, 06:55:00 AM
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^^ Very nice, everyone is really awaiting this big event early next year. And with so much hype again, this is gonna be huge and I predicted that it will be bigger than the first fight. I do hope that Joshua though will be at the ringside so who ever win this one will just have to call him out, so much drama, lol.
Wilder and Fury are the most anticipated fight the boxing fans are waiting for as majority felt that Fury won the first fight even though it ended in a draw and we need to see them fight again and i do not think that Joshua willl be challenging both these fighters anytime soon as he needs to have a few wins outside these two to have the confidence back as i really do not think he will have a chance to win against either Fury or Wilder.
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December 18, 2019, 06:30:22 AM
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^^ Very nice, everyone is really awaiting this big event early next year. And with so much hype again, this is gonna be huge and I predicted that it will be bigger than the first fight. I do hope that Joshua though will be at the ringside so who ever win this one will just have to call him out, so much drama, lol.
It could probably happen because I believe that every boxer got it's own pride and each one of them have the need to beat down the person they think torn along their way to throne Grin. Whoever win in the rematch, I'm sure that AJ is next. I mean, there are only few strong and interesting boxers in the heavyweight division (I hope Klitschko will come back soon) so why delaying these dream matches if this what people really want. Well, much better if AJ will have a chance to fight Fury and Wilder but if there must be only one then I would go with Wilder vs Joshua. I'm curious if AJ could stay on his feet and resist that heavy puncher until the end Grin.
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December 18, 2019, 06:16:25 AM
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If we are basing who would win based on the previous match I will be choosing Wilder to win this second bout especially if you consider that he knocked down Fury twice one of which Fury was lucky to be standing in. Fury might have dominated the entirety of the match but with Wilder's power and endurance you know the match can stop at anytime when Wilder wants it to happen. I also like Wider to win solely because it makes his chances facing AJ more higher and that match is something I would like to see especially when both boxers have beef with each other and have dodge each other for a long time now. This time they will be two top heavyweights facing each other in the ring and it will be bigger than AJ vs. Ruiz 2.

Most likely boxing fans would like to see Wilder vs Joshua. Yes, I do remember, prior to Fury getting back into the picture on the heavyweight division, these two have been calling it out and words has been thrown as to who really derail the fight, so the drama is already there.

@btc_angela - unlikely that Joshua will be there to see the fight live. He might be busy preparing for his mandatory, whoever it is that time.
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December 18, 2019, 05:57:38 AM
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If we are basing who would win based on the previous match I will be choosing Wilder to win this second bout especially if you consider that he knocked down Fury twice one of which Fury was lucky to be standing in. Fury might have dominated the entirety of the match but with Wilder's power and endurance you know the match can stop at anytime when Wilder wants it to happen. I also like Wider to win solely because it makes his chances facing AJ more higher and that match is something I would like to see especially when both boxers have beef with each other and have dodge each other for a long time now. This time they will be two top heavyweights facing each other in the ring and it will be bigger than AJ vs. Ruiz 2.

That's true it's not over for a guy who can knock out his opponent and a guy with a knock out punch can end it anytime if he sees a good opening, Fury is a good technical fighter, but Wilder can always train to see an opening and he only needs one punch to end the match, on the second match I favor Wilder to win by knock out.
If the rematch will happen then I will go for Wilder again. I won on my last bet between their fight. The right hand of Wilder is so deadly and it is the reason why he has 41 KOs. He's style is so different that he can easily overwhelmed the style of fury. Fury is strong but he cannot handle the power and the strength of Wilder so it is obvious that Wilder will win again via KO.
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December 18, 2019, 05:46:04 AM
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If we are basing who would win based on the previous match I will be choosing Wilder to win this second bout especially if you consider that he knocked down Fury twice one of which Fury was lucky to be standing in. Fury might have dominated the entirety of the match but with Wilder's power and endurance you know the match can stop at anytime when Wilder wants it to happen. I also like Wider to win solely because it makes his chances facing AJ more higher and that match is something I would like to see especially when both boxers have beef with each other and have dodge each other for a long time now. This time they will be two top heavyweights facing each other in the ring and it will be bigger than AJ vs. Ruiz 2.

That's true it's not over for a guy who can knock out his opponent and a guy with a knock out punch can end it anytime if he sees a good opening, Fury is a good technical fighter, but Wilder can always train to see an opening and he only needs one punch to end the match, on the second match I favor Wilder to win by knock out.
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December 18, 2019, 05:31:58 AM
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If we are basing who would win based on the previous match I will be choosing Wilder to win this second bout especially if you consider that he knocked down Fury twice one of which Fury was lucky to be standing in. Fury might have dominated the entirety of the match but with Wilder's power and endurance you know the match can stop at anytime when Wilder wants it to happen. I also like Wider to win solely because it makes his chances facing AJ more higher and that match is something I would like to see especially when both boxers have beef with each other and have dodge each other for a long time now. This time they will be two top heavyweights facing each other in the ring and it will be bigger than AJ vs. Ruiz 2.
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December 18, 2019, 04:58:02 AM
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^^ Very nice, everyone is really awaiting this big event early next year. And with so much hype again, this is gonna be huge and I predicted that it will be bigger than the first fight. I do hope that Joshua though will be at the ringside so who ever win this one will just have to call him out, so much drama, lol.
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December 18, 2019, 03:58:18 AM
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A little update here.

From the mouth of Bob Arum himself, the fight on the 22nd of February is already set in stone.

"Asked if the rematch may not happen on February 22, Arum responded: 'No. That’s pretty good. That’s in stone.'"

And the venue is also set in stone.

"And he confirmed MGM Grand in Las Vegas is the likely host, adding: 'That’s also sort of in stone.'"

The two giant networks, ESPN and FOX, are going to be involved in the promotion of this fight. The coming official announcement of this bout, Arum added, will not be a normal one, "'It is not going to be a normal announcement, it will be like a circus.'"

[1] https://talksport.com/sport/boxing/642667/bob-arum-spectacular-tyson-fury-rematch-deontay-wilder-2-rematch-february/
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November 30, 2019, 06:21:04 AM
#59
In their first match, if Wilder manage to hit more clean shots and work on his jabs maybe the judge's decision would have been different. Right now, I think I would bet on Wilder to win in their rematch of course his camp would make an adjustment on how to hit clean shots on this pesky Tyson Fury which docks and Dodge most of his shots.
It for sure that they work on it otherwise, Fury will dominate the fight and put ends Wilder. Many say that this will be an intense fight and really it was knowing the fact that this might affect their boxing career. Both of them don't have losses, that is what they are protecting for and to sustain the record is really challenging. And  I expecting more big shot coming from Wilder this time the same thing he does in the previous fight.


The rematch would be more intense than their first meeting. Fury utilizes his jabs while Wilder rely on his power punches but if the fight goes on and nobody got knocked down, it would be Fury to win their second outing.

For sure, fury has to follow the style of Mayweather who will prefer to score in points than to knock down an opponent, I think Fury can do that as he is faster, has a good forwork and head movement and he is winning in the scoring in their first fight, so he can surely do that again .
We don't really know the adjustment both fighters are doing but one thing I observed, Wilder is more vulnerable to losing these days.
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November 29, 2019, 05:25:32 PM
#58
In their first match, if Wilder manage to hit more clean shots and work on his jabs maybe the judge's decision would have been different. Right now, I think I would bet on Wilder to win in their rematch of course his camp would make an adjustment on how to hit clean shots on this pesky Tyson Fury which docks and Dodge most of his shots.
It for sure that they work on it otherwise, Fury will dominate the fight and put ends Wilder. Many say that this will be an intense fight and really it was knowing the fact that this might affect their boxing career. Both of them don't have losses, that is what they are protecting for and to sustain the record is really challenging. And  I expecting more big shot coming from Wilder this time the same thing he does in the previous fight.


The rematch would be more intense than their first meeting. Fury utilizes his jabs while Wilder rely on his power punches but if the fight goes on and nobody got knocked down, it would be Fury to win their second outing.
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November 29, 2019, 05:15:35 PM
#57
In their first match, if Wilder manage to hit more clean shots and work on his jabs maybe the judge's decision would have been different. Right now, I think I would bet on Wilder to win in their rematch of course his camp would make an adjustment on how to hit clean shots on this pesky Tyson Fury which docks and Dodge most of his shots.
It for sure that they work on it otherwise, Fury will dominate the fight and put ends Wilder. Many say that this will be an intense fight and really it was knowing the fact that this might affect their boxing career. Both of them don't have losses, that is what they are protecting for and to sustain the record is really challenging. And  I expecting more big shot coming from Wilder this time the same thing he does in the previous fight.
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November 29, 2019, 05:10:23 PM
#56
It wasn't in the jaw because it wasn't a hook or an uppercut, it was a straight right that landed cleanly on the front face of Ortiz.
I am truly amazed by the power of Deontay Wilder, he was weight around 209 pounds when he was facing Tyson Fury the first time and the power he has is incredible, he is not the best boxer in the world but he is the heaviest puncher in the world who could knock out any human in the world. Even in Ortiz fight he did not land that punch in the jaw but in his temple and he got him floored which is incredible power to knock someone of Ortiz caliber and that is what interest me in this rematch too.

George Foreman discusses the punching power of Deontay Wilder

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Then George mentioned these fights: Frazier vs Ellis, Frazier vs Mathis, Ali vs Foreman, Louis vs Schmeling II, and Tyson vs Berbick.

“Those fights had real KOs, of guys they’d never dropped. Louis having been beaten by Max, wins in a KO. Ellis a real champion, with skills. Ali beat an undefeated puncher in Foreman. Frazier beats the house fighter Mathis by KO. Tyson creaming Berbick, the most devastating punch I’ve seen!”

He then pivoted back to the Wilder rematch win over Ortiz. “Guys you’ve kayoed before seem to wait for you to get them again, so no claim to fame to ‘Re-KO.’ I was far from impressed. Now if AJ kayoes Ruiz I’m writing him into greatness. If Ruiz wins, Wilder gets him. I’ll start collecting everything Wilder. King of the world!”

George does give Wilder more props. “Now, for me there has not so far been any better display of pure punching power, in the heavyweight division,” he said of Wilder’s overall power pack. “Norton (in 1973) and Frazier (‘73 and ‘76) were both up when the fight was over. So not pure KOs.”

https://www.badlefthook.com/2019/11/27/20985190/george-foreman-discusses-punching-power-deontay-wilder

Anyways, we all admit that Wilder has power, it's just a question if he can hit Fury again in the rematch that Tyson won't get up.
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November 29, 2019, 04:03:59 PM
#55
It wasn't in the jaw because it wasn't a hook or an uppercut, it was a straight right that landed cleanly on the front face of Ortiz.
I am truly amazed by the power of Deontay Wilder, he was weight around 209 pounds when he was facing Tyson Fury the first time and the power he has is incredible, he is not the best boxer in the world but he is the heaviest puncher in the world who could knock out any human in the world. Even in Ortiz fight he did not land that punch in the jaw but in his temple and he got him floored which is incredible power to knock someone of Ortiz caliber and that is what interest me in this rematch too.

 

I really don't think it matters about how much they weigh, sure it's impressive to see a 210lb guy knocking out someone 250lb+

However, there starts to become a point where you get large that you can no longer generate the velocity needed to get those devastating knockouts.

Realistically, the head and jaw of the victim are roughly the same size and weight, regardless what size they are. Therefore, so long as you get a proper headshot, I doubt there is much difference between knocking out a 200lb guy, vs a 300lb one.
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November 29, 2019, 01:15:55 PM
#54
It wasn't in the jaw because it wasn't a hook or an uppercut, it was a straight right that landed cleanly on the front face of Ortiz.
I am truly amazed by the power of Deontay Wilder, he was weight around 209 pounds when he was facing Tyson Fury the first time and the power he has is incredible, he is not the best boxer in the world but he is the heaviest puncher in the world who could knock out any human in the world. Even in Ortiz fight he did not land that punch in the jaw but in his temple and he got him floored which is incredible power to knock someone of Ortiz caliber and that is what interest me in this rematch too.

 
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November 29, 2019, 04:58:27 AM
#53
I don't remember time when heavyweight category and boxing in general was so interesting.
After the popularity of tyson is gone, I stop watching heavy weight fights.
They are boring to watch but this fight is kinda a great fight, like they showed in their first fight.
I also like Ruiz vs Joshua match up though.

So far I could find some early odds for this fight
could or couldn't? let us know if you find some odds for this fight.
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November 29, 2019, 04:51:42 AM
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In their first match, if Wilder manage to hit more clean shots and work on his jabs maybe the judge's decision would have been different. Right now, I think I would bet on Wilder to win in their rematch of course his camp would make an adjustment on how to hit clean shots on this pesky Tyson Fury which docks and Dodge most of his shots.
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