Topic: Wilder vs. Fury II: The Rematch is On - page 2. (Read 2558 times)

Although, I'd agree that there are better fights for the fans than Chisora. Fury, and Chisora are personal friends, and Fury has always hinted giving him another fight whether that was sarcastic was hard to be determined considering the context that it was said. I'm not sure about you, but having a trilogy almost 3 fights in a row just takes everything out of the last two fights. Usually, trilogy fights are over a period of time, but we'll be having 3 fights within 4 fights for each fighter which in my opinion is too soon. Personally, I believe the better option would be to have a break, and allow Fury vs Joshua. Then whoever wins that can vs Wilder again. I'll be routing for Fury, but lets just say that Joshua wins it. It would still be worthwhile for Wilder to fight Fury after Joshua just because he still has something to prove.

There was obviously some level of hype surrounding Wilder but that was to be expected since before that fight he was undefeated and the way he defeated his opponents was really impressive with all of those knockouts, to me this was simply about Fury not only being the best boxer but also about being smarter than Wilder, Fury realized that if he gave space to Wilder he could unleash that brutal right hand on him, so instead of playing it safe he went for Wilder, this not only surprised Wilder but put him in a position he was not expecting and without the required space and the additional weight he was carrying unleashing the full potential of his right hand became something impossible for him.

 

What excuse would he have next time?

He will not be able use the "my costume weight 40 pounds so I was tired before the fight started" excuse again...

Arum usually made exorbitant predictions as far as PPV goes, of course he is going to do it because he is the promoter of Tyson Fury. As far as the ear goes, it was just a cut, that's why the ring physician allowed the fight to continue. I was also the impression that he has rapture his ear drum or something that's why his balance is not there.

@NavI_027 - I wouldn't call Wilder over-hype though, not just his night and he face the better man that night. He held the belt for many years, if he is over-hype, he should have lost it and his name wouldn't be in the discussions for the best heavyweight of today.

If they make a trilogy, it will be a nice trolling move from Fury to also walk out in some funny suit. But Wilder should walk out in wheel chair, to that will save him from being tired.

Or they both can take lessons from Akihiro Gono ufc 94 walk out 



Or:


Boxing walk out's are so boring nowadays. Wish old dream/pride walk out's get back https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5OHxaNj3UaM

The estimate of Arum was 2 million PPV buys, he overestimated it, lol.

per https://www.sportingnews.com/us/boxing/news/deontay-wilder-vs-tyson-fury-2-ppv-price-cost/yrcn6qcqctb91ea24k4mm25jv

The PPV price is  $79.99 so if we go to the maximum estimated of 850K, that's almost $68 million,.. that's still a lot of money.
Well, if there is a trilogy, I think the PPV buys would be lower than the recent one.

Welp not as many subscription buys as many predicted

Deontay Wilder vs. Tyson Fury estimated at 800K to 850K PPV buys

Wilder-Fury 2 PPV totals below Arum’s 2 million buy projection

https://www.boxingnews24.com/2020/02/deontay-wilder-vs-tyson-fury-estimated-at-800k-to-850k-ppv-buys-sources/

I can't get over with Wilder's loss. Now we realized how overhyped he was (I admit that I also predict that Wilder can pull this off lol). *sigh Fury deserve it, it was a clean win so there's nothing to talk about it. Even how hard Wilder make excuses, it will never sell to the fans because he was obviously wasted.

Check this meme LMFAO!


The tables have turned, He is no longer the baddest man on the planet .

Hehehehe. That would be funny, yes. It was the skeptical me that was thinking about it. However, I am very happy he won because he was my bet.

Watch the fight again and witness the strangeness of Deontay Wilder's unsteadiness after the 1st round.

There was no operation required to Wilder, he was just severely injured so he is advise to rest 6 weeks of no sparring in boxing.
He will be back fighting again and we will a trilogy but I'm sure you guys still root for the same guy and for sure Fury would be a heavy favorite here.

I thought an operation was required. Thank you for correcting me.

Was this even announced? I really don't think these two are going to fight eachother any time soon.

Both want to maintain their perfect record so that they can keep climbing the rankings and become mandatory for a title shot.

It would be dangerous to fight this early. If they did though, Garcia would either win on points, or get sparked out. I guess this fight would be like a miniature version of Fury vs Wilder lol.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B9C2iqUgNJF/

 


Apparently he's self-outed himself on this. On the Joe Rogan podcast a few months ago he stated he trains with a weighted vest that is far heavier than his ringwalk outfit:

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/boxing/footage-emerges-casts-doubt-deontay-21584457


What operation? Source? Apparently he just needed some stitches which will be long-healed by the time a rematch happens which will be in the summer if it goes ahead.

Honestly didn't expect the way i want it to be i thought it would go just as the first fight but it seems fury didn't take chances in this one. Wilder got totally destroyed in that fight, it seems that the gypsy king figured him all out. Luckily i didn't bet on that.

The upcoming fight between ryan garcia and gervonta davis should be a hype match.

I would never believe that Wilder didn't know how heavy this suit is and found it only when it was time to walk to the ring. Or that he was forced to wear it. The suit suits him so perfectly, so there 100% were some try on. Simply can't understand why he simply can not admit that Fury was and is stronger.

Telling such stupid excuses are simply disrespectful to his fans and other athletes.

40% of the re-match purse still will many millions of USD$ but will it be enough to entice Wilder to trigger the re-match? He has well over 3 weeks to make up his mind, I am sure Wilder and his team will go over everything. Even if he triggers the clause for the re-match he might not be able to fight in the stipluated time-frame because it will take time after the operation on his ear to heal.

On the other side I cannot see Fury ever paying Wilder to not fight him even if it is part of the contract but it puts Wilder in an awkward position. As you said, if he does not fight Fury immediately via the contract clause then he might not get another opportunity to either fight Fury or fight for any of the heavyweight belts again.

I will be keeping a look out with interest for any news about this as soon as it breaks.

What I mean is it surely had an affect on his performance overall, but the difference wouldn't be so great as to cause him to get dominated from the first round.

Deontay Wilder is a world class athlete, carrying around 20kg isnt a huge amount of weight especially when distributed over your entire body, even if he was wearing it for 15 mins.

As such, I can see how he would be slightly tired in the first round, but not to the degree that he should get completely smashed by FUry from the first 10 seconds of round 1.

Maybe he was still in disbelief as to what happened that's why he most likely to found excuses after excuses. Until he settles down and accept that fact that he totally lost the fight fair and square, then he can't get over it. He needs to think hard, it might take a bit longer for him to be a champion again if he won't exercise that rematch clause. But at the same time, will he be ready mentality to face Tyson Fury after the two knock downs?

If he doesn't invoke it then he'll likely never get the opportunity to fight Fury ever again. If he didn't have a rematch clause Fury would have no reason to fight him and would move on to bigger and better things. The onyl reason Fury will fight him is because he's contractually obligated to if Wilder requests it.

Apparently Fury can possibly pay Wilder off to avoid the fight: https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/boxing/11043664/tyson-fury-pay-off-wilder-joshua/

I think that would be silly though. Losing money compared to making boatloads on the rematch then fighting AJ after when they're both available. I'm not sure Wilder would take it either. He's set to make 40% of the purse from a rematch and then of course there's the huge perk of potentially winning the belt back.


You seem to contradict yourself here. I don't really believe his excuse but if it did effect him then it would have effected him from the start since he was carrying all that weight in.


Well it would be 1 18kg dumbell. To be fair, that is pretty heavy, but the weight would have been spread out all over his torso so it would be easier to carry than say a mere dumbell or kettlebell, but it would give you some strain on your legs, but Wilder is a big guy and a professional athlete. He wasn't just wearing it for the 5 minute ringwalk either as he said he had it on for quite a while before the fight (could be bullshit though)

I just believe that it's the mentality of the champion not to easily accept defeat so he would want another opportunity to fight Fury.
I think I am loving this match again, if he loses then he should not long for another match as fans would surely not gonna buy the fight and of course no promoter would promote a fight that would not sell.