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February 24, 2020, 02:50:45 PM
I'm almost certain he'll take the rematch. Not only will he want the belt back but each fight in a trilogy always make more money with each fight. There's just more buzz and interest.

I'm sure there'll be interest and no doubt a boatload of money to be made but I can't see the interest being at a similar level. A third fight pops when the previous two left the questions unanswered.

Both this and Ruiz answered the question in the second event. In terms of actual narrative a third one would be pretty redundant.

I think you can argue this fight wasn't won in the ideal way with the towel being thrown in. I would think the third fight would be far bigger in terms of viewership/Pay-per view.

Wilder has called for third rematch his team invoked it so we will have a third rematch coming,
A link to this would be nice. I can't find recent articles.

There's nothing yet just speculation, but I would be very surprised if Wilder didn't want the rematch. Makes a lot of sense for him.

What we need to see now is a unification bout between Fury & Joshua.
I was looking for an article about Wilder's team invoking a third match as what fortunecrypto said but I found this one instead https://www.worldfightnews.com/joshua-wants-wilder-before-the-third-wilder-fury-fight/ Joshua was expecting Wilder to win the second fight but he also said he doesn't mind having a unification bout with Fury. It's nice to see that none of them is trying to hide.

The AJ/Fury fight makes sense and would probably be the biggest PPV ever, at least in England. They could also sell out the biggest venue available, but there's two huge potential issues for it to be the next fight. One is the Wilder rematch clause that would have to happen this year (probably before summer) and AJ is probably going to fight Pulev in June and that's all but a done deal. The only way that won't happen is if Wilder doesn't invoke the rematch clause and then they will go ahead with trying to get the Fury/AJ done.

What we need to see now is a unification bout between Fury & Joshua. Wilder was outclassed so a trilogy fight between him & Fury is of no interest to me.

Let’s see the fight between the two heavyweight belt holders to unify the division.

What do you think will be the betting odds for this one, do you think Fury would be the favorites here?


Fury will be sure the favourite now, but I still think they fairly equal fighters. Wilder obviously got shook and that threw him off, and that's why I'd like to see the third fight as anything can happen.

What we need to see now is a unification bout between Fury & Joshua. Wilder was outclassed so a trilogy fight between him & Fury is of no interest to me.

Let’s see the fight between the two heavyweight belt holders to unify the division.

What do you think will be the betting odds for this one, do you think Fury would be the favorites here?

After Fury beat the best fighter in their division, I feel that AJ would suffer the same defeat Wilder experience.

I dunno, I think if Fury is 100% motivated & dedicated to training then he might be favourite. I think Fury is a more skilful boxer but AJ packs the bigger punch & can KO anybody.

If you pushed me to pick a winner I’d say Fury on points but only if he sticks to his new found disciplined lifestyle. If he falls off the wagon & gets fat between fights then AJ by KO.

I think they're also quite equal fighters, but I think Fury might edge it as long as he stays in shape. I really can't see Fury going nuts again though. He'd be a fool if he did. He's on top of the world right now and whatever his next fights are they're going to make him more money than he can ever spend.
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February 24, 2020, 01:13:13 PM
What a great day for British boxing... all 4 of the heavyweight titles are held by British fighters  Grin

If the Fury-Joshua fight goes ahead then one of them will hold all the belts and will become the undisputed heavyweight champion. Well done to the Brits!


What we need to see now is a unification bout between Fury & Joshua. Wilder was outclassed so a trilogy fight between him & Fury is of no interest to me.

Let’s see the fight between the two heavyweight belt holders to unify the division.
That's possible but if the fight will push through I'm definite that Fury can easily take Joshua but there is a rematch clause and Wilder wants a rematch and so we are going to see a third match I don't know how they are going to hype the third fight when one fighter totally dominated the other fighter, it will be hard to sell the next fight.
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February 24, 2020, 01:09:52 PM
What a great day for British boxing... all 4 of the heavyweight titles are held by British fighters  Grin

If the Fury-Joshua fight goes ahead then one of them will hold all the belts and will become the undisputed heavyweight champion. Well done to the Brits!


What we need to see now is a unification bout between Fury & Joshua. Wilder was outclassed so a trilogy fight between him & Fury is of no interest to me.

Let’s see the fight between the two heavyweight belt holders to unify the division.
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February 24, 2020, 10:43:23 AM
What we need to see now is a unification bout between Fury & Joshua. Wilder was outclassed so a trilogy fight between him & Fury is of no interest to me.

Let’s see the fight between the two heavyweight belt holders to unify the division.

What do you think will be the betting odds for this one, do you think Fury would be the favorites here?

After Fury beat the best fighter in their division, I feel that AJ would suffer the same defeat Wilder experience.

I dunno, I think if Fury is 100% motivated & dedicated to training then he might be favourite. I think Fury is a more skilful boxer but AJ packs the bigger punch & can KO anybody.

If you pushed me to pick a winner I’d say Fury on points but only if he sticks to his new found disciplined lifestyle. If he falls off the wagon & gets fat between fights then AJ by KO.
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February 24, 2020, 09:49:00 AM
What we need to see now is a unification bout between Fury & Joshua. Wilder was outclassed so a trilogy fight between him & Fury is of no interest to me.

Let’s see the fight between the two heavyweight belt holders to unify the division.

What do you think will be the betting odds for this one, do you think Fury would be the favorites here?

After Fury beat the best fighter in their division, I feel that AJ would suffer the same defeat Wilder experience.

That's likely to happen as AJ was beaten by Ruiz which is short and fat, so he will surely struggle when he will face Fury, but the question is, will he fight Fury soon? the likelihood of it happening is might be 50/50... we are aware that AJ challenge Wilder to fight him in the UK, but that was before Wilder got his first lose, https://www.sportsjoe.ie/boxing/deontay-wilder-accepts-anthony-joshua-challenge-fight-uk-155754

so if AJ want a fight, I think he should challenge the new champ.
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February 24, 2020, 09:30:27 AM
What we need to see now is a unification bout between Fury & Joshua. Wilder was outclassed so a trilogy fight between him & Fury is of no interest to me.

Let’s see the fight between the two heavyweight belt holders to unify the division.

I really think that this fight should happen, because people will continue to question Joshua's reputation because he has not fought something as big as Fury and someone as strong as Wilder, no question Fury is the lineal champion for winning all the belts on all existing boxing organization, but a third rematch was invoked by Wilder's camp, so we'll see what's coming up in the heavyweight division.
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February 24, 2020, 09:19:09 AM
What we need to see now is a unification bout between Fury & Joshua. Wilder was outclassed so a trilogy fight between him & Fury is of no interest to me.

Let’s see the fight between the two heavyweight belt holders to unify the division.

What do you think will be the betting odds for this one, do you think Fury would be the favorites here?

After Fury beat the best fighter in their division, I feel that AJ would suffer the same defeat Wilder experience.
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February 24, 2020, 09:11:12 AM
Wilder has called for third rematch his team invoked it so we will have a third rematch coming,
A link to this would be nice. I can't find recent articles.

What we need to see now is a unification bout between Fury & Joshua.
I was looking for an article about Wilder's team invoking a third match as what fortunecrypto said but I found this one instead https://www.worldfightnews.com/joshua-wants-wilder-before-the-third-wilder-fury-fight/ Joshua was expecting Wilder to win the second fight but he also said he doesn't mind having a unification bout with Fury. It's nice to see that none of them is trying to hide.
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February 24, 2020, 08:49:34 AM
What we need to see now is a unification bout between Fury & Joshua. Wilder was outclassed so a trilogy fight between him & Fury is of no interest to me.

Let’s see the fight between the two heavyweight belt holders to unify the division.
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February 24, 2020, 08:47:24 AM
I'm almost certain he'll take the rematch. Not only will he want the belt back but each fight in a trilogy always make more money with each fight. There's just more buzz and interest.

I'm sure there'll be interest and no doubt a boatload of money to be made but I can't see the interest being at a similar level. A third fight pops when the previous two left the questions unanswered.

Both this and Ruiz answered the question in the second event. In terms of actual narrative a third one would be pretty redundant.

Wilder has called for third rematch his team invoked it so we will have a third rematch coming, but this fight should have a hype because as you can see Wilder is badly beaten and totally outclassed, he will need to convinced the paying public that we will show a different stuff in their third meeting.
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February 24, 2020, 08:44:45 AM
Wilder has been reigning undefeated monster in the heavyweight division so this should be another day at office for him.
Although, last time they fought wilder was outclassed by experience but right now he has defended his title for quite some time now, the experience should already be there. Im expecting wilder has improved.
Are you aware that Wilder loss to Fury in the 2nd fight? Man, he is no undefeated anymore and he has not defended his title.

here's the highlight if you haven't seen it yet : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J-GgRNrZFi8
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February 24, 2020, 07:49:03 AM
In terms of actual narrative a third one would be pretty redundant.
For us fans here maybe but for those promoters who like to make money, they can easily hype the rematch again so they can sell this fight.
As a boxing fan, I can compare this with a Mayweather vs Pacman possible rematch and fans like to see it although it's obvious that it was Mayweather who easily win against Pacman in the first fight, this is no different, big names fight big names will hype the fans.
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February 24, 2020, 07:35:51 AM
I'm almost certain he'll take the rematch. Not only will he want the belt back but each fight in a trilogy always make more money with each fight. There's just more buzz and interest.

I'm sure there'll be interest and no doubt a boatload of money to be made but I can't see the interest being at a similar level. A third fight pops when the previous two left the questions unanswered.

Both this and Ruiz answered the question in the second event. In terms of actual narrative a third one would be pretty redundant.
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February 24, 2020, 06:30:08 AM
Wilder got pounded I don't know if his poor performance was after the ear shot it was rather concerning to see his corner fail to work on him round after round or even give him direction to cover up more and protect his head after the savage ear bleed shot from fury.

When you see blood coming out the ear of a fighter and they seem to be very unstable on there feet I am surprised the corner didn't pull there fighter over health concerns it was a good stoppage by the ref he obviously saw the Wilder was struggling to clear his head and needed some medical attention.



The ref didn't stop it. Wilder's trainer threw the towel in. It did look like the ref stopped it during the fight but on the subsequent after fight replays it shows the towel coming in. I was confused at first as I didn't think the ref should have called it off.

When you see blood coming out the ear of a fighter and they seem to be very unstable on there feet I am surprised the corner didn't pull there fighter over health concerns it was a good stoppage by the ref he obviously saw the Wilder was struggling to clear his head and needed some medical attention.

Even if you knew nothing about nothing that's a pretty alarming signal. I've never seen that before. You'd think someone would have a root around in there before sending him back out.

It might turn out to be harmless enough but it makes you wonder about how diligent they are.


It could have just been a harmless cut on the ear or something much more serious - perforated ear drum or even bleeding on the brain. If they had concerns it was something serious they shouldn't have let him go back out, but most fighters are stubborn and have too much pride to call it off themselves and will continue on at all costs.


A third fight usually means they just do it for bringing in the money and not for the love of the competition. Roll Eyes
Just look at money mayweather and his rematches.
And yes, I heard Mike Tyson was going to be at the announcers table during the fight.
I just think he picked the fighter to win because they have the same name. Cheesy

Again, boxing is all about the money. They don't do these fights for fun and for the love of the sport. Besides, a trilogy makes sense. The first was a draw and this was one by Wilder's camp throwing in the towel. A third fight can determine the rightful winner if there's a clear KO. The AJ fight makes sense but I think he's said potentially 2021 so Fury will probably fight before then and Wilder will be his next best opponent, and he'll have to fight him if Wilder requests the trilogy anyway.



Yes, the second fight was convincing enough that there is no need for a trilogy here.


Not if it was all due to the ear injury. That would have explained his lack of balance and unsteadiness of his feet. I thought Wilder was the better fighter in the first fight. This one was obviously Fury's but that ear injury could explain why he was so off and that's why I'd like to see the third fight.

Officially, there is a rematch clause:

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Deontay Wilder Has 30 Days To Exercise Clause For Fury Trilogy

There is a contractual clause for a trilogy fight - and Wilder has 30 days to exercise that clause - with the contest taking place in June or July.

https://www.boxingscene.com/deontay-wilder-30-days-exercise-clause-fury-trilogy--147028

So Wilder has a month to decide whether he wanted another part of Fury or not.

By the time they entered the ring Saturday night, MGM Grand Garden Arena was packed to capacity. Officials announced a sellout crowd of 15,816 and an MGM Resorts International official confirmed that the live gate for Wilder-Fury II broke the Nevada record for a heavyweight fight.

https://www.boxingscene.com/wilder-fury-rematch-broke-heavyweight-gate-record-vegas--147020

So there could be more money in a trilogy, Fury is a good seller and so is Wilder, and they could potentially earn more than the second fight.

I'm almost certain he'll take the rematch. Not only will he want the belt back but each fight in a trilogy always make more money with each fight. There's just more buzz and interest.



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He wasn't out of shape. That's what getting punched in the head/ear can do to you. Same thing happened in the Joshua fight.
This is not my thing. What I know is that you get wobbled temporarily when you're hit in the ear/behind the ear but he wasn't punch hard there in rounds one and two.


It depends how hard you get punched and where. One good punch can turn your legs to jelly and some people can't even stand after that and getting hit in the ear can throw your balance off completely.
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February 24, 2020, 06:26:59 AM
Wilder got pounded I don't know if his poor performance was after the ear shot it was rather concerning to see his corner fail to work on him round after round or even give him direction to cover up more and protect his head after the savage ear bleed shot from fury.

When you see blood coming out the ear of a fighter and they seem to be very unstable on there feet I am surprised the corner didn't pull there fighter over health concerns it was a good stoppage by the ref he obviously saw the Wilder was struggling to clear his head and needed some medical attention.

I would also credit fury for his performance in the fight he made good advances around the ring and kept Wilder on the back foot for the majority of the fight he landed some good punches both from distance and from inside the clinch all in all it was a good fight with a deserved outcome by fury.
The fight was good during the first till third rounds but as you have said everything changed after the ear bleed of Wilder which i believe will literally make Wilder feel dizziness and i thnk the referee didn't stop the fight early in other to clarify peoples doubt.

With that been said, i somehow believed Fury seek Mike Tyson advise before the fight because Mike Tyson was spotted supporting him through the fight.

I doubt they will have a re-match after this one unless it's in the contract somewhere.

Base on the message posted by sportbible there's chance for a third fight.
A third fight usually means they just do it for bringing in the money and not for the love of the competition. Roll Eyes
Just look at money Mayweather and his rematches.
Maybe not or maybe yes but we cant use Mayweather rematches to judge because Mayweather is knew for making money through his fights while Fury and Wilder are foes (they like each other but they always claim to be best than each other)


And yes, I heard Mike Tyson was going to be at the announcers table during the fight.
I just think he picked the fighter to win because they have the same name. Cheesy
That's what i also believed either.
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February 24, 2020, 05:13:54 AM
Damn, I missed this match! I've just come back from Youtube and shocked about how Fury outclassed Wilder that much. I've predicted Fury would win, but not dominating like this.

I think Fury got a bit lucky with the "AJ-like damage" received by Wilder with that right hook. Wilder just couldn't recover after that blow. However, I'll still bet Fury wins 9 out of 10 (1 draw) versus Wilder.

Wilder was lucky that he was still able to get up after being down in the 3rd round, Fury knows how to win and he didn't lie when he said he will knock out Wilder, and this guy just beat the guy who has the biggest knockout percentage in the history.
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February 24, 2020, 04:06:27 AM
Damn, I missed this match! I've just come back from Youtube and shocked about how Fury outclassed Wilder that much. I've predicted Fury would win, but not dominating like this.

I think Fury got a bit lucky with the "AJ-like damage" received by Wilder with that right hook. Wilder just couldn't recover after that blow. However, I'll still bet Fury wins 9 out of 10 (1 draw) versus Wilder.
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February 24, 2020, 02:49:01 AM
WILL WAIT FOR ANOTHER REMATCH BECAUSE OF THIS DISAPPOINTING ENDING Cheesy.

Rematch after rematch, are we going to keep on the rematch until the wider will win.  
I think there should be no rematch and we should accept the Tyson fury victory. If they again decide to rematch, this will only to create a marketing technique to gain the hype and money from the event.

I told my pals after the match, if Wilder requests for a rematch then perhaps he doesn't wanna box again lol
Fury furiously sent him out of the ring straight to the hospital for treatment.

In boxing, it is bad to be a sore loser.
If Wilder gets a rematch, it will be the same results.

Let's look forward to Fury vs Anthony Joshua
That's much better, bringing new match and forget about another rematch from this two fighters. Wilder needs to forget about taking another chance to prove himself, fans will be much interested seeing Joshua to fight with Fury if organizers will make this things to materialized more and money to flow
with this market. Heavyweights bringing the light from this sports.
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February 24, 2020, 02:29:55 AM
WILL WAIT FOR ANOTHER REMATCH BECAUSE OF THIS DISAPPOINTING ENDING Cheesy.

Rematch after rematch, are we going to keep on the rematch until the wider will win.  
I think there should be no rematch and we should accept the Tyson fury victory. If they again decide to rematch, this will only to create a marketing technique to gain the hype and money from the event.

I told my pals after the match, if Wilder requests for a rematch then perhaps he doesn't wanna box again lol
Fury furiously sent him out of the ring straight to the hospital for treatment.

In boxing, it is bad to be a sore loser.
If Wilder gets a rematch, it will be the same results.

Let's look forward to Fury vs Anthony Joshua
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February 24, 2020, 01:57:47 AM
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He wasn't out of shape. That's what getting punched in the head/ear can do to you. Same thing happened in the Joshua fight.
This is not my thing. What I know is that you get wobbled temporarily when you're hit in the ear/behind the ear but he wasn't punch hard there in rounds one and two.

@Theb mentioned that Wilder wasn't his confident self and I also saw that from the first round. He was really off. Maybe we weren't used to seeing him backpedaling.
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