We all know what happens to this match I think the thread should be close and move on the second episode which is their third meeting
we have a new thread about their up and coming fight but it's still a long way to go because the match is going to happen in June, but let's see what's going to happen since Wilder was offered a huge sum of money just to step aside so the Wilder Fury match will push through
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I would never believe that Wilder didn't know how heavy this suit is and found it only when it was time to walk to the ring. Or that he was forced to wear it. The suit suits him so perfectly, so there 100% were some try on. Simply can't understand why he simply can not admit that Fury was and is stronger.
Telling such stupid excuses are simply disrespectful to his fans and other athletes.
That much is obvious which is why the excuse does not make sense, if the fight had been close and Wilder was out of stamina in the last rounds of the match he may have a point since the stamina lost during the time he wore that costume could have made a difference, but when you watch the way he was dominated you know the costume had no influence into the fight, to me he is just protecting his ego and it is still struggling to admit not only that he lost but how he lost. Telling such stupid excuses are simply disrespectful to his fans and other athletes.
Someone has shared this through facebook and I was interested about it, so I think of sharing it here.
BOXING champion Wilder Challenged JESUS-CHRIST and regrets it... ( Watch )
What do you think about this video, I only know few of the boxers who publicly showed their belief in God, one example is Manny Pacman which is a pastor and Fury who thank God after the fight.
BOXING champion Wilder Challenged JESUS-CHRIST and regrets it... ( Watch )
What do you think about this video, I only know few of the boxers who publicly showed their belief in God, one example is Manny Pacman which is a pastor and Fury who thank God after the fight.
Deontay Wilder confirms intention to regain title in Tyson Fury trilogy fight
Before doing that he should consider changing his fight style and coaches. Otherwise this third fight would repeat fight nr. 2
I’ve read that he had fired his coach, that throw out the blanket. It was also mentioned, that this guy was the most experienced among Wilder coaches. What do you think, was it wise?
Wilder should hope to get one more shot at the title so why fight Fury and then if he wins have to fight Joshua? He would prefer to fight the winner of the Fury-Joshua fight instead though there could be his desire to repair his damaged pride which might make the Fury re-match a possibility.
@JollyGood. Wilder's best decision might be to fight another contender, let Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua unify all the heavyweight titles and then challenge the undisputed champion hhehehehe.
@JollyGood. Wilder's best decision might be to fight another contender, let Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua unify all the heavyweight titles and then challenge the undisputed champion hhehehehe.
This sounds like a nice idea to me but BRONZE BOMBER has his own plans Deontay Wilder confirms intention to regain title in Tyson Fury trilogy fight
The Bronze Bomber lost his WBC heavyweight title to Fury in a comprehensive defeat in Las Vegas last weekend, but is set to exercise a clause for a third fight between the pair
https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/boxing/deontay-wilder-confirms-intention-regain-21602131
Realistically that would make anybody mad and it would deserve firing the trainer for listening to the crowd and random commentators rather than his own fighter.
If that was the doctor saying the blood is coming from a burst eardrum, that would have been the best decision throwing in the towel. But it seems the fear of Breland that his fighter is going to suffer more in the hands of Fury got the better of him and decided to just keep his fighter from more harm. But, actually, it might still be a good decision overall. However, it is expected that it will be unpopular and that his fighter, getting angry and upset, first, for losing, and second, for having his fight abruptly ended, would want at least a head to roll. Breland is the perfect guy for it, especially now that Wilder is pointing fingers at anything.
@JollyGood. Wilder's best decision might be to fight another contender, let Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua unify all the heavyweight titles and then challenge the undisputed champion hhehehehe.
I agree. He better fight against Whyte (who laughed really hard at what he's gone through against Fury) first as a tune-up, prove that he's still The Bronze Bomber, and get back to Fury right after.
@JollyGood. Wilder's best decision might be to fight another contender, let Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua unify all the heavyweight titles and then challenge the undisputed champion hhehehehe.
I reckon that there might be a serious head injury that Wilder does not want everyone to know. His ear was bleeding from the hole after a punch on the 1st round and he was never standing steadily after that.
The fluids in his ear that is responsible for balance might have been shaken very hard and it might have caused a form of vertigo.
He definitely got hurt when Fury hit him with clean shots to the side of the head very early on. After that, Wilder was simply hanging on in there while Fury was wearing him out. Wilder seemed to have serious balance issues but it could simply be down to concussion rather than fluid imbalance issues because he was hit by a 6ft 9in fighter.The fluids in his ear that is responsible for balance might have been shaken very hard and it might have caused a form of vertigo.
In any case, agreed! Wilder should not invoke the rematch clause. His boxing career will be destroyed if he loses versus Gypsy King again.
Agreed but his girlfriend mentioned on social media there will be a trilogy. Why would he risk serious damage to his health as well as his ego and of course danger of another battering? Have you all read the so many excuses Wilder is putting in his defeat to Fury, he is blaming everybody but himself, blaming the trainer, blaming the suit, blaming the referee, I will not be surprised if the next one that he is going to blame is Fury by not following the script and beat him to the pulp.
Lmao, what did he say about the referee?
Honestly, if his corner stopped the fight because he thought he busted his ear drum, then I can understand why Wilder would be angry... He didn't have a busted eardrum.
But they should have been able to communicate that during the breaks with a simple back and forth...Trainer: "Hey, your eardrum is bleeding, do you feel like your equilibrium is rekt?", Wilder: "No, it's just a cut".
I did see one of his corner saying your eardrum is burst etc after the fight, so that might be actually why they called off the fight. His corner was listening to the commentators who kept saying his eardrum was burst and equilbrium was knocked off.
Realistically that would make anybody mad and it would deserve firing the trainer for listening to the crowd and random commentators rather than his own fighter.
Have you all read the so many excuses Wilder is putting in his defeat to Fury, he is blaming everybody but himself, blaming the trainer, blaming the suit, blaming the referee, I will not be surprised if the next one that he is going to blame is Fury by not following the script and beat him to the pulp.
It is obvious that the big ego of Wilder was dented by this defeat as he cannot accept the loss and he is trying to find reasons for having his first loss in his career and i am not expecting any major changes in the fight game of Wilder as he never tried to change for over ten years and he was successful with his one dimensional approach and intimidation and Fury just fought the perfect game plan. 
Well if the costume really did weigh 20kg like he said then I can see that it really would have had an effect on his performance. That said though, it's his own fault and he should not be complaining about it.
I can't imagine that it would have had such an effect on his performance, considering Fury dominated him from the first second of round 1.
As far as I'm aware Fury said he still has three fights on his contract with ESPN, that's after the recent Wilder fight. So that means we will probably get another Wilder rematch, then Anthony Joshua, and then hopefully Dillian Whyte. There's absolutely no point him fighting Chisora who has already been beaten by both Whyte and Fury, so I don't want to see an old Chisora get sparked out once again.
I think the last fight should be with somebody who really deserves the title shot at the time. Maybe Usyk, Kownacki or maybe even Daniel Dubois.
Missed some of your points in my last reply so here it goes; I can't imagine that it would have had such an effect on his performance, considering Fury dominated him from the first second of round 1.
As far as I'm aware Fury said he still has three fights on his contract with ESPN, that's after the recent Wilder fight. So that means we will probably get another Wilder rematch, then Anthony Joshua, and then hopefully Dillian Whyte. There's absolutely no point him fighting Chisora who has already been beaten by both Whyte and Fury, so I don't want to see an old Chisora get sparked out once again.
I think the last fight should be with somebody who really deserves the title shot at the time. Maybe Usyk, Kownacki or maybe even Daniel Dubois.
Potentially could have an effect. However, he's an elite athlete, has discussed on Joe Rogan's podcast that he routinely uses a weighted jacket close to 40lbs, and the fact that a non athlete like myself uses a 50lbs weighted jacket to supplement my work outs, and feel absolutely amazing when I take it off I'd like to think a professional athlete would be able to last 2 rounds without showing signs of fatigue like he did. Well, to be honest from my observations he didn't show fatigue until getting hit in the head several times. Before, the first knock down he actually tagged Fury with some big hits as Fury was leaving himself open due to his aggressive nature of that fight.
Also, the promoters will not risk Dubois. Dubois is an up and coming fighter who will be protected just like Anthony Joshua, and most other big names are protected at first. Think Wilder, and how he hasn't really fought anyone noteworthy except for Ortiz, and Fury. Dubois will have a few years of "tune up" fights before setting foot in the ring with anyone big. Fury would be a big risk at this early stage of his career, and considering Fury is considered to be in his prime I can't see that being good for Dubois who still needs a little work.
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Have you all read the so many excuses Wilder is putting in his defeat to Fury, he is blaming everybody but himself, blaming the trainer, blaming the suit, blaming the referee, I will not be surprised if the next one that he is going to blame is Fury by not following the script and beat him to the pulp.
He does not accept defeat, he is not a real champion. I don't think he will be champion again with that kind of attitude, if he likes to improve and be back on the top, he needs to accept his mistake and correct it, that's the real attitude he needs for him to evaluate the game and to see what he did wrong. Never blame the costume as its his will to wear it.
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Deontay Wilder: “He didn’t hurt me at all, but the simple fact is my uniform was way too heavy for me. I didn’t have no legs from the beginning of the fight… I didn’t think it was going to be that heavy. It weighed 40lbs with the helmet and all the batteries.
Wilder also confirmed that he will trigger the rematch clause for a trilogy fight with Tyson Fury
Wilder also confirmed that he will trigger the rematch clause for a trilogy fight with Tyson Fury
Have you all read the so many excuses Wilder is putting in his defeat to Fury, he is blaming everybody but himself, blaming the trainer, blaming the suit, blaming the referee, I will not be surprised if the next one that he is going to blame is Fury by not following the script and beat him to the pulp.
He does not accept defeat, he is not a real champion. I don't think he will be champion again with that kind of attitude, if he likes to improve and be back on the top, he needs to accept his mistake and correct it, that's the real attitude he needs for him to evaluate the game and to see what he did wrong. Never blame the costume as its his will to wear it.
What excuse would he have next time?
He will not be able use the "my costume weight 40 pounds so I was tired before the fight started" excuse again...
If they make a trilogy, it will be a nice trolling move from Fury to also walk out in some funny suit. But Wilder should walk out in wheel chair, to that will save him from being tired.
I reckon that there might be a serious head injury that Wilder does not want everyone to know. His ear was bleeding from the hole after a punch on the 1st round and he was never standing steadily after that.
The fluids in his ear that is responsible for balance might have been shaken very hard and it might have caused a form of vertigo.
In any case, agreed! Wilder should not invoke the rematch clause. His boxing career will be destroyed if he loses versus Gypsy King again.
Wilder himself says that the injury he suffered from his ear didn't affect him. And it was a cut, the blood comes from the cut and not some ear drum.
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That small cut required seven stitches when Wilder went to a Las Vegas hospital following his first professional defeat. Doctors told him, though, that he didn’t sustain eardrum damage, nor did he suffer a concussion.
https://www.boxingscene.com/wilder-bleeding-from-ear-affect-me-all-no-eardrum-damage--147112
However, what makes it somewhat not 'classy' for him is blaming the custome he wore for his performance.
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Deontay Wilder says he was adversely affected by the 40-plus-pound costume he wore into the ring Saturday night, Tyson Fury’s fouls and referee Kenny Bayless’ unwillingness to enforce the rules. (photo by Ryan Hafey)
Have you all read the so many excuses Wilder is putting in his defeat to Fury, he is blaming everybody but himself, blaming the trainer, blaming the suit, blaming the referee, I will not be surprised if the next one that he is going to blame is Fury by not following the script and beat him to the pulp.
What excuse would he have next time?
He will not be able use the "my costume weight 40 pounds so I was tired before the fight started" excuse again...
If they make a trilogy, it will be a nice trolling move from Fury to also walk out in some funny suit. But Wilder should walk out in wheel chair, to that will save him from being tired.
I reckon that there might be a serious head injury that Wilder does not want everyone to know. His ear was bleeding from the hole after a punch on the 1st round and he was never standing steadily after that.
The fluids in his ear that is responsible for balance might have been shaken very hard and it might have caused a form of vertigo.
In any case, agreed! Wilder should not invoke the rematch clause. His boxing career will be destroyed if he loses versus Gypsy King again.
It seems like a good take on things, I agree with you.
- Wilder should not invoke the clause for a re-match, instead should take time out and recuperate
- Fury and Joshua should fight to be undisputed heavyweight champion (I also go for Fury to win)
- Wilder should have at least two warm-up fights or become number one contender before he should fight the then heavyweight champion of the world
Fury is 29 now, he is absolutely loaded as far as cash is concerned. Just one more fight would be enough to fill the coffers further and if he beats Joshua then he could easily retire but there are problems. He signed a 5 fight deal with BT Sport/ESPN for around £80 million. Joshua has a fight deal with DAZN/Sky Sports and Wilder has a Showtime contract.
Let us see what happens with Wilder and his team, will they invoke the re-match clause or not?
- Wilder should not invoke the clause for a re-match, instead should take time out and recuperate
- Fury and Joshua should fight to be undisputed heavyweight champion (I also go for Fury to win)
- Wilder should have at least two warm-up fights or become number one contender before he should fight the then heavyweight champion of the world
Fury is 29 now, he is absolutely loaded as far as cash is concerned. Just one more fight would be enough to fill the coffers further and if he beats Joshua then he could easily retire but there are problems. He signed a 5 fight deal with BT Sport/ESPN for around £80 million. Joshua has a fight deal with DAZN/Sky Sports and Wilder has a Showtime contract.
Let us see what happens with Wilder and his team, will they invoke the re-match clause or not?
Although, I'd agree that there are better fights for the fans than Chisora. Fury, and Chisora are personal friends, and Fury has always hinted giving him another fight whether that was sarcastic was hard to be determined considering the context that it was said. I'm not sure about you, but having a trilogy almost 3 fights in a row just takes everything out of the last two fights. Usually, trilogy fights are over a period of time, but we'll be having 3 fights within 4 fights for each fighter which in my opinion is too soon. Personally, I believe the better option would be to have a break, and allow Fury vs Joshua. Then whoever wins that can vs Wilder again. I'll be routing for Fury, but lets just say that Joshua wins it. It would still be worthwhile for Wilder to fight Fury after Joshua just because he still has something to prove.
@NavI_027 - I wouldn't call Wilder over-hype though, not just his night and he face the better man that night. He held the belt for many years, if he is over-hype, he should have lost it and his name wouldn't be in the discussions for the best heavyweight of today.
Hmm, fair enough. So much better if we say he is overrated ? There was obviously some level of hype surrounding Wilder but that was to be expected since before that fight he was undefeated and the way he defeated his opponents was really impressive with all of those knockouts, to me this was simply about Fury not only being the best boxer but also about being smarter than Wilder
Indeed, plus his strong determination to beat Wilder down. We can see it on his eyes and statements . We knew he came from a loss due to the same opponent beforea and for sure he don't want things repeat again, that's the best fuel he can use to for reaching his goal and fortunately he made it. How entertaining to watch a fight where the underdog wins. Watch the fight again and witness the strangeness of Deontay Wilder's unsteadiness after the 1st round.
From the opening bell Tyson Fury was aggressive and taking the fight to Wilder and he was rocked badly and eating punches from the start and in the third round he was floored with a great over hand right and then he was wobbly throughout the fight and he was floored again with a body shot and he was completely humiliated and the biggest humiliation is the excuse he comes up for the defeat rather than giving props to Fury for been the better fighter. Jump to: