Wilder vs. Fury II: The Rematch is On - page 4.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on February 25, 2020, 06:24:43 AM

Quote from: hilariousetc on February 25, 2020, 06:11:39 AM

I'm sure we'll see a different Wilder in the rematch and I doubt he'll make the same mistakes again.

I'm sure Wilder will be the same. He is not a heavyweight. He is just a cruiserweight that gained pounds and is aimed to "one-punch-KO" strategy. Fury is just more heavy and punches too hard for him.

I disagree on both points. Are we forgetting about the first fight where Wilder almost KO-d fury twice? Even Fury admits it was a miracle he got up. I think that's why I'm looking forward to a third fight even more because who knows what will happen. If we get the Wilder from the first fight vs Fury from the second anything can happen. Wilder still can throw bombs, but it was obvious something shook him from early on, but there wasn't anything particular deadly from Fury that you can pinpoint as to the reason why. Could have been the ear injury or Wilder's excuses about the weight of his costume, both, or even something else entirely. Wilder's ear injury didn't seem to have been anything serious though and looks like it was just a cut on the outside so I'm not sure how much that would effect him ultimately.

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Deontay Wilder handed six-week suspension after Tyson Fury defeat

What is the point in that? Since when do boxers have another fight within six weeks Cheesy

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Quote from: Zicadis on February 24, 2020, 05:20:57 PM

They're both big and strong, Fury is probably weaker than Joshua overall though.

What do you mean weaker? I would agree that Joshua body has more muscles though.

But body muscles is not the primary in boxing. And Andy Ruiz proved that (and number of other boxer with jelly belly). All you need is speed, strong neck and stamina.

Btw, I'm writing this post while eating Ruiz's favourite snickers bar Cheesy

Quote from: hilariousetc on February 25, 2020, 06:11:39 AM

I'm sure we'll see a different Wilder in the rematch and I doubt he'll make the same mistakes again.

I'm sure Wilder will be the same. He is not a heavyweight. He is just a cruiserweight that gained pounds and is aimed to "one-punch-KO" strategy. Fury is just more heavy and punches too hard for him.

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Quote from: JollyGood on February 24, 2020, 05:40:54 PM

The career of Wilder is definitely not over but he is 34 years old and even so he still has time to try to get a shot at the title again but it would be better for him to take some time out and fix those issues that he had in his personal life before he went in to the Fury fight. After that he should have two or three warm up fights before trying to set up a title shot against whoever holds the bests and anyway by then he might be the no1 mandatory fighter which would allow him to get another chance at being heavyweight world champion again.

What personal issues? Wilder was at the top of his game and held the belt, so he's not going to vacate it or have a few warm up fights with nobodies. Fighting a few bums is pointless when you can fight the best of the rest and make the big bucks doing so. I'm sure we'll see a different Wilder in the rematch and I doubt he'll make the same mistakes again.

Quote from: gentlemand on February 24, 2020, 07:50:05 PM

Well, according to some news outlets Wilder has said there's going to be a third fight. He's also fired the guy who threw in the towel/saved his bacon. It's talking about a July date. The cause of his wobbly legs was his unusual ring entry costume according to him. Fair enough.

Well that's his excuse. Not sure I buy it, but if true then he doesn't have anyone else to blame. These costumes they come out in are getting a bit silly, especially if they're effecting their game.

Quote from: bbc.reporter on February 24, 2020, 11:32:10 PM

Why was Wilder not standing steadily after the 1st round? Was it the punch to the ear? The skeptical me reckons that someone put something in his water hehehe. Tyson Fury was also shown very relaxed before the fight and appeared to already know something hehehehee.

Why don't you track down Tyson Fury and ask him to punch you in the face and head repeatedly and see how your legs are after it. Or maybe it will be something in your water when you struggle to stand? Roll Eyes

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on February 24, 2020, 11:32:10 PM

Why was Wilder not standing steadily after the 1st round? Was it the punch to the ear? The skeptical me reckons that someone put something in his water hehehe. Tyson Fury was also shown very relaxed before the fight and appeared to already know something hehehehee.

So you mean to say that the fight was fixed ?

No, it was not. Fury attacked more than Wilder and he was spot on. You can check here where Fury drops Wilder Twice, Finishes Wilder in the 7th . Fury dominated the all 7 rounds and was deserving champ.

I will be convince that the fight is fix if in their first fight it was Wilder who dominated Fury, but it's not what is happening, in fact people think Fury won the first fight but unfortunately the judges scored a draw, this rematch we witnessed is legit, there is no fix in it, it's just that wilder was exposed, that's it.

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Quote from: bbc.reporter on February 24, 2020, 11:32:10 PM

Why was Wilder not standing steadily after the 1st round? Was it the punch to the ear? The skeptical me reckons that someone put something in his water hehehe. Tyson Fury was also shown very relaxed before the fight and appeared to already know something hehehehee.

So you mean to say that the fight was fixed ?

No, it was not. Fury attacked more than Wilder and he was spot on. You can check here where Fury drops Wilder Twice, Finishes Wilder in the 7th . Fury dominated the all 7 rounds and was deserving champ.

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Why was Wilder not standing steadily after the 1st round? Was it the punch to the ear? The skeptical me reckons that someone put something in his water hehehe. Tyson Fury was also shown very relaxed before the fight and appeared to already know something hehehehee.

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Quote from: gentlemand on February 24, 2020, 07:50:05 PM

Well, according to some news outlets Wilder has said there's going to be a third fight. He's also fired the guy who threw in the towel/saved his bacon. It's talking about a July date. The cause of his wobbly legs was his unusual ring entry costume according to him. Fair enough.

As usual every fighter will come up with a ton of excuses, he was completely dominated and if the towel was not thrown he would have injured badly and it was a wise decision from his corner as they are there to protect the fighter, he can come up with any excuses and i do not think that Wilder will reinvent is boxing style at this age and with this style he is not going to beat Fury how many times they face.

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Well, according to some news outlets Wilder has said there's going to be a third fight. He's also fired the guy who threw in the towel/saved his bacon. It's talking about a July date. The cause of his wobbly legs was his unusual ring entry costume according to him. Fair enough.

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Quote from: Zicadis on February 24, 2020, 05:20:57 PM

Quote from: TopTort777 on February 24, 2020, 03:24:23 PM

Lets imagine next will be Fury vs Joshua. What Joshua could do or have, that might give him advantage over Fury.
Fury is heavy, strong, can survive destructive punches from tops like Wilder, despite he is heavy - he is fast.

Joshua vs Ruiz showed that Joshua’s defense is not perfect and 1 heavy punch can and the fight.

What Joshua should do to win Fury?

They're both big and strong, Fury is probably weaker than Joshua overall though.

What do you mean weaker? I would agree that Joshua body has more muscles though.

Quote from: Zicadis on February 24, 2020, 05:20:57 PM

However, the size and reach difference should be enough to compensate for that, plus Fury has a chin sculpted out of granite.

I think if AJ and Fury went toe to toe, Fury would probably know him out. After all, AJ goes KO'd savagely by Ruiz, there's no way that midget would do the same to Fury.

AJ has been knock down thru his career, so obviously his chin is not that strong as compare to Fury. But yes, his height and reach will be very difficult for AJ plus Fury is more technically sound. So I'm sure that Fury will be the favourite if those two will face in the ring.

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Quote from: Zicadis on February 24, 2020, 05:20:57 PM

They're both big and strong, Fury is probably weaker than Joshua overall though.

What do you mean by weak, not having a body building kind of body Tongue

, i bet Tyson Fury will win against Joshua simply because of his boxing skills and the confidence of an undefeated fighter and he always rises to the occasion.

Quote from: Zicadis on February 24, 2020, 05:20:57 PM

However, the size and reach difference should be enough to compensate for that, plus Fury has a chin sculpted out of granite.

There is no doubt about his chin and he took the hardest punch of Wilder where no one was able to do and went into aggression mode after that.

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I think if AJ and Fury went toe to toe, Fury would probably know him out. After all, AJ goes KO'd savagely by Ruiz, there's no way that midget would do the same to Fury.

There is no point in having a fight between Ruiz and Fury but Joshua is the next big fight for Fury and once he unifies all the belt i am sure he will retire from boxing as he achieved everything he started and will reach a legend status that no one achieved.

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The career of Wilder is definitely not over but he is 34 years old and even so he still has time to try to get a shot at the title again but it would be better for him to take some time out and fix those issues that he had in his personal life before he went in to the Fury fight. After that he should have two or three warm up fights before trying to set up a title shot against whoever holds the bests and anyway by then he might be the no1 mandatory fighter which would allow him to get another chance at being heavyweight world champion again.

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Quote from: JollyGood on February 23, 2020, 03:52:17 PM

Do you think there will be a third fight between these two? I do not see a re-match but if Wilder get his career back on track maybe he will manage one final shot at the title.

You are talking as if Deontay Wilder ended his career with that match but the truth is careers as good as Wilder don't end like that. Some fighters in the industry like McGregor, Pacquiao, Golovkin didn't let their blemish record define their career and look they still manage to win some games. Yeah a rematch might not be soon to come since that is how hype fight works, promoters will tend to dodge everything for a long time so that they can heat things up for the fans. Fury has the privilege to choose his next match while Wilder will go in a different route to reclaim in order throne and that's how it works for both of them.

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Quote from: TopTort777 on February 24, 2020, 03:24:23 PM

Lets imagine next will be Fury vs Joshua. What Joshua could do or have, that might give him advantage over Fury.
Fury is heavy, strong, can survive destructive punches from tops like Wilder, despite he is heavy - he is fast.

Joshua vs Ruiz showed that Joshua’s defense is not perfect and 1 heavy punch can and the fight.

What Joshua should do to win Fury?

They're both big and strong, Fury is probably weaker than Joshua overall though.

However, the size and reach difference should be enough to compensate for that, plus Fury has a chin sculpted out of granite.

I think if AJ and Fury went toe to toe, Fury would probably know him out. After all, AJ goes KO'd savagely by Ruiz, there's no way that midget would do the same to Fury.

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Quote from: JollyGood on February 23, 2020, 03:52:17 PM

Do you think there will be a third fight between these two? I do not see a re-match but if Wilder get his career back on track maybe he will manage one final shot at the title.

You are talking as if Deontay Wilder ended his career with that match but the truth is careers as good as Wilder don't end like that. Some fighters in the industry like McGregor, Pacquiao, Golovkin didn't let their blemish record define their career and look they still manage to win some games. Yeah a rematch might not be soon to come since that is how hype fight works, promoters will tend to dodge everything for a long time so that they can heat things up for the fans. Fury has the privilege to choose his next match while Wilder will go in a different route to reclaim in order throne and that's how it works for both of them.

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I also like AJ vs Fury, but it is still up to the boxing promoters and managers to give their fighters the most money. Wilder could fight Whyte next or Andy Ruiz if he doesn't want to sign and fight Fury again.

Please can we stop including Ruiz already, this guy just got lucky once and was already exposed.

I'm talking about Wilder's perspective him. Majority doesn't want a rematch with Fury, so what is the best option for Wilder? His stock obviously goes down because of the lost and he needs a good win to get back into the contention again. So why is Ruiz a a good option? If he can beat Ruiz and knock him out then they can say that he beat him more convincingly than Joshua did, which just avoided Ruiz through the whole 12 rounds. So Ruiz will be a good leverage for him.

Quote from: Sanitough on February 24, 2020, 12:57:32 AM

If they like to bring big money, they should bring in a Fury vs AJ fight, at least both of them came from a real big win, or maybe AJ vs Wilder, I would still bet on the Wilder to demolished AJ though.

Of course the best option for Fury is to really fight Joshua next and unify the belt, big and easy payday for him. I don't think that Joshua will call Wilder though.

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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on February 24, 2020, 08:49:34 AM

What we need to see now is a unification bout between Fury & Joshua. Wilder was outclassed so a trilogy fight between him & Fury is of no interest to me.

Let’s see the fight between the two heavyweight belt holders to unify the division.

Right, make sense for all Brits unification fight, that is if Wilder doesn't exercise his rematch clause.

This could be huge as well but as seeing Fury winning this easily though, he is too technical and him proving that he is no pillow fisted fighter. AJ chin which is weak compare to him and Wilder, so if Fury touches that chin AJ will have nightmares again, flashback of Any Ruiz, Lol.

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No doubt about it, Fury is fast for a big man (6ft 9in) and his mobility over his opponent will be one of the key reasons he will beat Joshua.

If Joshua has a chance of winning he should forget about trying to box it to 12 rounds and win on points, the fight will be over long before that and if it did make it to 12 rounds he would not win on points. The only chance he has to win against Fury is to hope he can knock him out early on but the odds heavily favour Fury to win.

Quote from: TopTort777 on February 24, 2020, 03:24:23 PM

Lets imagine next will be Fury vs Joshua. What Joshua could do or have, that might give him advantage over Fury.
Fury is heavy, strong, can survive destructive punches from tops like Wilder, despite he is heavy - he is fast.

Joshua vs Ruiz showed that Joshua’s defense is not perfect and 1 heavy punch can and the fight.

What Joshua should do to win Fury?

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Quote from: LFC_Bitcoin on February 24, 2020, 08:49:34 AM

What we need to see now is a unification bout between Fury & Joshua. Wilder was outclassed so a trilogy fight between him & Fury is of no interest to me.

That is the next fight to make Joshua and Fury could break many records and it will be the biggest fight in terms of revenue rather than a trilogy with Wilder as Fury defeated Wilder in the first fight as he won most of the rounds even though the judges called it a draw we all knew what was the real result and Fury came out and performed exactly what he said he is going to do in the fight before the fight and everyone laughed at him and he executed exactly what he said and there is nothing else to prove with a fight against Wilder and i am sure the Wilder team will advice him not to revoke the rematch clause within 30 days.

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Quote from: hilariousetc on February 24, 2020, 02:50:45 PM

I think you can argue this fight wasn't won in the ideal way with the towel being thrown in. I would think the third fight would be far bigger in terms of viewership/Pay-per view.

The alternative would possibly have been him finishing the fight as a twitching vegetable. It was a pretty emphatic victory. The first fight raised questions. This one answered them for good.

I'm sure a third fight would do fine. It wouldn't have anywhere near the same urgency and drama.

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I think Wilder will not take up the rematch clause because he needs time to recover from the physical beating and the mental stress, it should pave the way for the Fury-Joshua fight to get the go-ahead

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Quote from: JollyGood on February 24, 2020, 01:09:52 PM

What a great day for British boxing... all 4 of the heavyweight titles are held by British fighters Grin

If the Fury-Joshua fight goes ahead then one of them will hold all the belts and will become the undisputed heavyweight champion. Well done to the Brits!

That's possible but if the fight will push through I'm definite that Fury can easily take Joshua but there is a rematch clause and Wilder wants a rematch and so we are going to see a third match I don't know how they are going to hype the third fight when one fighter totally dominated the other fighter, it will be hard to sell the next fight.

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Lets imagine next will be Fury vs Joshua. What Joshua could do or have, that might give him advantage over Fury.
Fury is heavy, strong, can survive destructive punches from tops like Wilder, despite he is heavy - he is fast.

Joshua vs Ruiz showed that Joshua’s defense is not perfect and 1 heavy punch can and the fight.

What Joshua should do to win Fury?

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