Topic: Wilder vs. Fury II: The Rematch is On - page 3. (Read 2560 times)

^^ LMAO, why did he not complain when he is not comfortable wearing them?

So many excuses from Wilder, it was really a different Wilder that night, maybe it's more of a mental issues that has been plaguing him going on to the fight, but blaming the suit itself?

And with that said, I don't think he will be ready for a rematch.

Just laughed out loud !

Deontay Wilder has blamed his loss to Tyson Fury on a heavy walk-in suit. This is the lamest excuse I've ever heard. If the suit was so heavy and this 5min walk make you tired - why would you even wear it ? And how could this 5 min walk with 18+ kg suit make a professional athlete tired ? He is a heavyweight, he didn't have to cut weight to fit in and lose strength.

18kg - what is it like? 1 dumbbell? I'm sure Wilder done some lunges with barbell or dumbbell, or walked with them during his camp.

5min walk with 18kg killed his legs. Tell this bs to Andy Ruiz and his 12 rounds vs AJ...

Well if the costume really did weigh 20kg like he said then I can see that it really would have had an effect on his performance. That said though, it's his own fault and he should not be complaining about it.

I can't imagine that it would have had such an effect on his performance, considering Fury dominated him from the first second of round 1.

As far as I'm aware Fury said he still has three fights on his contract with ESPN, that's after the recent Wilder fight. So that means we will probably get another Wilder rematch, then Anthony Joshua, and then hopefully Dillian Whyte. There's absolutely no point him fighting Chisora who has already been beaten by both Whyte and Fury, so I don't want to see an old Chisora get sparked out once again.

I think the last fight should be with somebody who really deserves the title shot at the time. Maybe Usyk, Kownacki or maybe even Daniel Dubois.

You know what. This whole excuse about the costume thing has left a sour taste in my mouth. I've never really supported Wilder, and I'm definitely a Fury fan, however I left that fight having a little bit of respect for Wilder for the way he refused to give in. I've seem boxers take dives before, and from a much less of a beating than Wilder was given. However, waking up to the news of Wilder's excuses regarding the costume, and his statements of "Fury didn't hurt me" has made me lose all respect for him. He had a better response inside that ring when he was still concussed, yet a few days later when hes had time to absorb the loss, and the embarrassment he comes out with these absurd claims. The fact that he would have had to try on that costume, and he still decided to take about 5 minutes to walk to the ring. I knew Wilder was a one dimensional fighter, but I didn't expect him to be so blind to the fact that a heavy costume doesn't make you bleed, and not be able to throw your arms.

Its just annoying. Fury was hoping to retire after 3 fights, and we now have to wait for the "big" fight against Joshua. I'm a Fury fan, so I want him to beat Joshua, rematch with his old pal Chisora, and then retire undefeated. I don't want him to not go out with a bang, because I think Fury is the type of person that needs to do things his own way or he could have issues mentally, and not feeling fulfilled. Unless, its a loss I actually think Fury would deal with a loss very well, because he absolutely knows he would have been bested, but if he doesn't get this fight with Joshua at all I fear for his mental health. I want him to have the chance to prove himself to the world as the best of the division. Plus, us fans are going to be in for a hell of a show. I will say, the rematch with Wilder isn't going to be a boring fight. Wilder still has that potential to catch him early, and change the fight completely. Although, what I will say. He would need to knock Fury clean out, because whenever Fury has been knocked down he gets back up, and tends to win the rest of the fight. I've never seen him completely rocked. Even, when he got tagged hard by Wilder last time he got back up without his legs betraying him or anything. It was a bit of a miracle that he woke up in time as he appeared completely out for a second or two, but once he was up he was completely there, and went on to win the round.

Well, he needs to win the 3rd fight so he will have a chance to retire being a champion and could potentially make more money in the possible 4th fight.
Though Wilder lose badly, but we can't deny the fact that this guy makes history having the most KO wins in all his fights and there still a lot of people who believes in him they'll want him fight again against Fury, believe me, this would be an epic fights for these two biggy in boxing sports.

Who is he going to challenge?

Tyson Fury is likely going to fight AJ and grab all of the belts once he wins.

We can only assume that Deontay Wilder will execute his rematch with Fury and they'll fight next. Based on their previous performances, Fury will smash Wilder once again.

Then Fury will go and grab all the belts and become undisputed.

Do you really think that Wilder will get a title shot before he retires, given the fact that he would probably also get beaten by Oleksander Usyk and get knocked down the rankings?

Realistically I don't see him getting another title shot after he loses to Fury again in a few months.

I did not say Wilder does not deserve another shot at Fury via the contract clause, all I said was that he should not invoke the re-match and instead take a break then come back fresh. He might be better off fighting a few lesser known opponents to build up confidence then arrange a fight for the heavyweight title.

Maybe you are right, Wilder might believe he will not get destroyed - let us see what happens because he still has around 27 days to force the re-match or tell the Fury camp he will not take it.

I don't think that's all he's got and I think you're being a bit harsh. Fury was lucky to get up in the first fight and it's a miracle he did. I think the third fight will see a lot more of Wilder and regardless of when Wilder started he's clearly earned his place in the world of boxing. I'd much rather see this fight again than them both fight some bums because that's what will happen unless they can make the AJ fight happen but that will be off the cards soon, both with Wilder taking the rematch and AJ's next fight against Pulev is almost a done deal.


He's already sacked him apparently (which isn't surprising): https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/boxing/deontay-wilder-trainer-mark-breland-sacked-tyson-fury-rematch-jay-deas-a9356326.html


The maker of Fury's costume has come out and said the costume wouldn't have made a difference to his performance  :

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/av/boxing/51634231


If he was smart he'll take the Fury fight. He'd be stupid to throw away a chance to get his belt back and fight a fighter like Fury again, because if he doesn't take it now that he won't get another chance as Fury will move onto bigger things. This is the biggest money making fight he can take right now, win or lose, and the only person that has something to lose now is Fury. It would be a huge step back for him if he actually lost as AJ will likely then go for Wilder unless Fury has a rematch clause then here we go again  .


Yeah, I think people are being very harsh. One loss and they're making it out like he's done. Sure, he got shook in that fight but it can happen to the best of boxers. Nobody expected Fury to almost get KOd in the previous fight and he almost lost that one but one loss or draw doesn't take away from all their other achievements.

I have the same perspective, if Wilder has any desire to be a champion again then he will need to take the rematch fight immediately, even if he losses the next fight as well he has something to prove, he was completely dominated during this fight, he only put up mild resistance during the first two rounds and from there everything was about Fury, he at least needs to show he can present opposition to Fury or whatever legacy he wanted to create will go down the drain, and if he avoids the fight then the natural fight that will follow will be Fury vs Joshua and he will probably have to wait for years for another shot.

Are we sure we are all talking about the same guy? I mean Deontay Wilder literally went 42 matches without a loss, he had only one draw which was a lot of controversy but even if we consider that a loss, he would be 42 wins and 2 losses right now, he only has one loss which just happened in all of his career. Dude is also just 34 years old in a sport where even 40 years old people are fighting today, maybe not in his weight class but it certainly happens, with the advancement of technology and medicine sports players are playing well into their 40's now and he could very well do that as well.

I am not saying he will be a great boxer from now out, he had his best years behind him, but he could very well challenge for a new fight one day, which he might win or lose I don't know.

Dude... Wilder lost his title, and the closest opportunity to getting it back is via this rematch. No sane boxer would miss this kind of opportunity, no matter how outclassed they were.

If Wilder loses again in the 3rd fight, I don't think he would wear the "champ" belt for quite some time since Fury would move to the next opponent.

They have already plan this that is why there was a "rematch clause", and if Wilder will fight another boxer and he wins easily, what would change, people would still think that he is afraid to fight Fury again and has not use his change to prove himself again that he can beat Fury.

I think after the this 3rd fight and still he lose, he can try to fight another boxer, but what people likes to see now is the Trilogy, they are not even talking about AJ as Fury and Wilder is the big market in heavy weight  boxing now.

If Wilder is smart he will fight others and then build up his resume once again and then call out Fury again, but i am also not expecting anything different if Fury and Wilder are to fight again.

Fury changed his boxing style completely in the second fight and Wilder could not do anything substantial as he was punched to the pulp throughout the fight and there is no excuse about it and with the big ego Wilder is having he will find an excuse and he might go for the trilogy.
The problem with these is that, if you check back history all these intimidating fighters once they looses then they are never the same.

The second fight was really huge and if they are to fight again in a short period then they cannot garner the same level of anticipation because everyone knows what will be the result as there is no doubt in anyone's mind who the superior boxer is even after the first fight and to come out and fight exactly how Fury was telling all throughout the fight week, it is legendary.

Wilder does not believe he will be destroyed again, he was a champion with only one defeat it's just good to give him another chance.. other reason is the money he will get in the 3rd match, and if Conor challenge Pacman to a fight even knowing he has no chance, why not give a chance to a real fighter like Wilder.

Wilder mentioned in the ring after he was defeated that he was carrying baggage in to the ring, he definitely was not the same fighter that fought Fury in the first fight. He alluded to things on his mind that he could not shake off therefore was not fully focused.

Even if there is a third fight, I agree with you in that we will see a different Wilder but I disagree with you when you say he will not make the same mistakes. Once he is on the receiving end of a barrage of punches to the head from Fury I am sure he will not be able to control the narrative and the result will be the same - a victory for Fury.

I honestly cannot see Wilder asking for a re-match - he knows Fury will destroy him again. If Wilder manages to unleash a powerful right hand and catches Fury off-guard he might win but he cannot out box and he cannot outclass Fury therefore another defeat for Wilder is the only result. If Wilder has a few warm-up fights beforehand then tries to get a fight with either Fury then he stands a better chance but inevitably Fury will destroy Wilder again regardless.

Yeah, I also saw that video but I think he is trying to condition the mind of the boxing world that he wants to invoke the third match clause and he wants to sell the third fight this early, but I doubt it will sell because the loss is very fresh, the two knock downs and the bloodied Wilder is still fresh in the minds of the boxing world, he should take a break and fight a different fighter like Andy Ruiz so he can recover.

Funny, boxers who are too confident does not know how to accept defeat, maybe right now instead of thinking how he can win in the 3rd fight, I think he should make himself busy thinking of a good excuse, really, I am not seeing him winning in the 3rd fight, not even split decision if it goes to 12 rounds.

The excuse Wilder is claiming right now is that the walk out dress he was wearing was weighing 40 pounds and that tired his leg and so is the reason he was not able to perform  . After a defeat a fighter will come up with a thousand excuses to feed his ego and if they fight ten times again Fury is going to win all the time.

But that's all he's got. He's would need to start from scratch to put together more skills than simply waiting to unleash one huge punch. Most of his matches were a waiting game until that moment can happen. Since he didn't get started until 20 and is now 34 it would be pretty miraculous for him to be reborn as a fully rounded boxer.

If he retains his main trainer then it's clear he's not very interested in changing or learning and the talk of going out on his shield is daffy. I would've had a corner clear out just like Fury.

I've no doubt he'll be sharper next time. That may not make him any better a boxer.

6 weeks from the time his injury was treated, this guy can't spar to prepare on their rematch, we don't know yet when it will happen but hopefully it will still take months so both fighters will be more prepared in the 3rd fight especially Wilder who has been injured in this fight.

A real champion will seek for a revenge and I don't know how he will do that but let's give him a chance, it's correct that he almost KOd Fury in the first fight but most rounds are still won by Fury, Wilder is just lucky that the decision ended up a draw, but it's just my personal opinion.