Topic: Will Trump be indicted ? - page 7. (Read 3386 times)

Haven't seen badecker get this emotional before.  The indictments seem to be getting to him.

Another like I was talking about. Trying to predict the future. And if it goes your way, you'll be all up and in my face like, "See? I'm good. I knew it."

I know, I know. You are angry. Was your mommy mean to you when you were a kid? You probably don't really know what you are angry about. But Trump was there, so might as well be angry at him. Not for any reason, of course. Just gotta be angry at somebody big.

Meanwhile Biden is screwing many people over many times worse than Trump could even think to be. Just think. All those deaths in the Ukraine war. Biden extended them way beyond what they would have been without his support. If Trump had been there, there wouldn't even have been any war.

You ignorant jokers are dishonest as the day is long, and that's why you are joining the Biden crooks who are in office. You think Biden is going to make you all rich. You're like the Russians who cheered Stalin, until they woke up dead from one of his death squads.

Mainly because we don't have to care or worry anymore and democrats can move to building the country. Right wing republicans might be lunatics, but adults are in charge, and now we have just to wait. Things take time to go trough proper channels. Trump is most likely going to jail and your disinformation links can't do anything about that. I know that you must be fired up about that as you need to make new conspiracy theories how Trump is still in charge of his prison block.

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Have you notice how this section in the forum is losing a lot of interest? Now that people are finding out that Trump is good, and that Biden is bad, and that Russia is beating the crap out of Ukraine, and that the US is embarrassed about it, what else is there to talk about?

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Typical reply, Bud.
You did not address my point about the judge being a Trump toadie, but just went off on a retarded tangent with your normal deluded diatribe drivel.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WddHQHbLtx4

Damn it! Why am I feeding the resident p+s troll again?
...Must of been that tasty nip I just quaffed to start off my lovely summer weekend.

As I said. The tables are starting to turn against Biden and his team. Consider. Have the charges been dropped? Has the prosecution gone away? No... to both of these.

Judge Cannon made a move in the right direction. The charges against Trump are trumped up, and she is willing to rule in a direction that is right. Bravo for her. But her ruling can be overturned, possibly. Even Trump has to start somewhere. This is part of his start to fight back.

Any of you jokers who are simple, honest people, and not some kind of troll, are really mixed up if you are against Trump. It's kinda like this:

Let's say that Trump is actually doing something bad against you (which he is not, BTW). Let's say he has a 45 pistol pointed at you, and looks like he is ready to pull the trigger. Bad Trump. But you forget this...

Biden and his crew are dozens, all with machine guns pointed at you, and they seem to have already pulled their triggers. Wanna see it? Just look at the economy, and the direction it's going. Prices of a whole lot of things have more than doubled. Companies are shutting down. New car sales have dropped to almost nothing.

Trump brought the economy back into a powerful position in only 4 years. But Biden made it worse than it ever was in less than 3 years.

And as if that wasn't enough, and since this post is about Trump, now Biden is going after Trump criminally, to destroy whatever good is left.

You jokers are really mixed up... https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/m.55119252.


It Was Biden Russian Collusion All Along!

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https://banned.video/watch?id=64d424a3eb383262dcc64f3a
It's beginning to look like the entire Trump Russian collusion narrative was actually about Joe Biden! Now we now of more millions paid to the Biden's from Russian Oligarchs and other countries. Meanwhile, Michigan Police and The Gateway Pundit have uncovered what might lead to the biggest reveal on how Democrats cheat to win elections. Jim Hoft joins the show to discuss the discovery. Chris Sky is in the studio to talk about his journey to the United States and taking his tour to America.
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Hey Bud, do a little research beyond your retarded right wingnut disinformation conspiracy theory websites and Faux News and you will realize this "judge" is a total Trump lackey who doesn't know shit from Shinola.
She was appointed by Trump after he was voted out of office and she has practically zero trial experience. Look it up.
She has already been overturned by an appellate court in a ruling she made last year in the classified docs case because she totally fucked up.

https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2023/08/egal-experts-blast-judge-aileen-cannons-latest-pro-trump-rulings

The tables are starting to turn against Biden's team, and in favor of Trump.


Federal Judge Makes Big Trump Decision - She Derails the Prosecution With 1 Bold Move

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https://pjnewsletter.com/federal-judge-trump-decision-derail/
Joe Biden's DOJ has indicted Trump so many times, it's hard to keep track of them all. Few Americans believe these indictments are really about the charges–and not attempts at derailing the 2024 Election. Joe Biden is such a bad candidate, that Democrats appear to be going out of their way to manipulate the election.

The special counsel running most of these trials is a leftist named Jack Smith. Smith is running the case against Trump out of Florida–accusing him of a variety of crimes over boxes of paperwork he kept at his house. But Smith has a big problem, a judge that refuses to let politics interfere with justice. And she just shut down the left's scheme.

From Fox News:

Judge Aileen Cannon of the Southern District of Florida – who is presiding over the case stemming from a Miami grand jury's June indictment of Trump – denied the Department of Justice's (DOJ) request for sealed filings, striking two from the record. Cannon also requested additional information from prosecutors regarding the continued use of an out-of-state grand jury to investigate the case.

Ouch. It looks as if Judge Cannon is not at all pleased with how Jack Smith is conducting his prosecution. She denied attempts by the DOJ's lapdog to seal the filings, which would have prevented the public from learning what is going on.

She also is demanding answers from this prosecutor over why he keeps using an out-of-district grand jury to run his case. Some have suggested that Smith is using a grand jury in a district that has more people with anti-Trump leanings. All so he can have an advantage in railroading the former president.
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Well, typically here voting days are set to be on Sundays all day, so people can participate easier. 

Yes, I have seen Republicans slashing against early voting, specially durig the pandemic and lockdown context. But funnily enough, some of them have realized that going against early voting and encourage their voting base to only vote in person could have created a disadvantage to themselves. Republicans would have had more chances of winning in 2020 if they were encouraged to use the same tools and mechanisms to vote more comfortably, as democrat voters did.

I can get the GOP has internalized some racism and dislike the poor, but trying to exclude the youth instead trying to appeal to them is a huge mistake, they may be dooming the future of their party. Imo.

The election day is Tuesday. That alone is truly fucked up if you excuse my French. Low wage hourly employees don't get the day off to vote or can't afford to lose hours of paid time. Most other countries vote on weekends and/or allow long early voting periods. In the US early vote and mail-in vote is a favorite GOP straw man for "voter fraud", which hasn't been really proven to exist on any appreciable scale but is a scare slogan for restricting said types of voting (e.g. make it difficult to get early ballots, limit the number and convenience of locations to drop them off, etc) without blatantly saying "we don't want poor/young/brown people to vote".

Then there is the whole gerrymandering issue.

I think Republicans tend to do more suppression because higher voter turnout is typically more favorable to Democrats.

Well, here one needs to register well in advance before being able to vote. When I got myself registered I had to stand up for 8 hours, before I could finally get my turn. They take our data, address, etc.

I have read in recent years that the right to vote itself has been a debate topic there in the United States. I have seen democrats saying Republicans are trying to suppress the vote of groups of people who are likely to vote blue. On the other hand, I have seen Republicans accusing Democrats of a little bit of everything, from vote fraud to try to grand voting rights to people who are not supposed to have them.

How true are those allegations from both sides?

Registration is typically required for voting but some states allow same day registration (i.e. basically you come with proof of citizenship in election day and can vote). In some other states though you need to register well in advance so that might be a bit of a bummer although not unique. Generally speaking, most countries will probably want to know you exist as a voter and where you live (for local election purposes) and the US doesn't really have a resident registration system that some other countries do, so there is a voter registration system. It's not so much about the party, just about being able to vote.

The slightly stupid part is that some states require you to choose democrat or republican (no "independent" option) but since that doesn't really affect how you vote it's just one of those things you have to learn to live with.

Thanks for this clarification 
It can be all a bit confusing since in my country, Venezuela, the whole system of political affiliation and registration is different. Here it is mostly like having a card and being part of a tree house club. So I am not well informed of the legal, social or political implications, duties and rights which may come from being a registered Republican or Democrat.

Though, I have noticed that it has been something which is used by people on internet to add a label to criminals and mass murderers immediately after a tragedy, I recall people point out the Las Vegas massacre murderer was alledgely a registered democrat, that was a falsehood, though.

His wealth won't keep him out of prison.  The presidency will.

This is going to be a wild ride whether it ends with trump in prison or in the white house.

BADecker is one of those election "experts" who likely has never voted. Voters don't have to vote for "their" party in the general election. They can vote freely. Perhaps he meant primaries, which are restricting participation by party in some states but that's not much different from the nomination process in any other democracy, i.e. members of the party choosing the nominee of the party.

The US Constitution gives control of elections to the States. The States don't all do it the same way. The only control that the Federal has is when a State does something so 'wrong' in their election process, that the Feds have to step in to get rid of the criminality. That's why I said 'some States' above.

Wait a minute.
I thought that in the United States, being registered only meant that you political affiliation was public and your political participation within the party was wider. But I did not know that being a registered Republican or Democrat actually meant that you could not vote freely.

In theory your vote is supposed to be secret, it is one of the pillars of democracy, isn't it ?

If what you say is true then being registered sounds rather like a cult than a political party.

However...

There are many Republican Rinos that don't support Trump. And the reverse is that there are many common-people Democrats who have become 'DINOs' (Democrat In Name Only). There are even a lot of Dino government people who support Trump. Who and what is a "PINO?" Political parties are becoming useless, as people are beginning to see all the bad stuff being promoted by their particular party. PINO - Party-member In Name Only.



With all the Pinos and Dinos around, the great disadvantage at the polls is that , some States won't allow you to vote in a member of a party that is not their own registered party. In some States, if you are registered 'Democrat', youi won't easily be allowed to vote for Trump. And people won't figure this out until voting time comes, and they won't be able to vote because of it.

I cannot argue with that, it seems that indeed being indicted by the Department of Justice lately has driven Republican voters to support Trump, in detriment of his primary opponents, like De Santis.

If there is something to learn from all of this, is that in politics the passion of those who believe to be victims of wrongdoing can indeed move the scale of power, which is rather a sad thing to witness from a country like the United States, which is supposed to be a light to be followed in the darkness of authoritarian regimes.

Passion and Reason.

Well, if you listen to this whole Patric Byrne video here - https://banned.video/watch?id=64caf93621b3069ecc2eed3d - you will see the frailty that everybody has, including Trump. You will, also, see that like anybody of Trump's kind of wealth, doesn't need the presidency. Now that things are straightening themselves out, Trump is ever pushing to Make America Great Again.

Why is Trump doing this? To take down criminals in the US government, and to see a good country become the best that ever was... America.


The Legal Cases Against Trump Explained

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https://www.zerohedge.com/political/legal-cases-against-trump-explained
Never before has a former president been criminally charged—much less a frontrunner in another presidential race.

As the remaining investigation gets closer to possible charges and the indicted ones inch closer to trials, Mr. Trump has repeatedly pledged that he would continue his campaign even if convicted.

Defense Documents

The most developed case so far involves Mr. Trump's keeping of documents from his presidency. Special counsel Jack Smith charged Mr. Trump and two of his employees with 37 felony counts, including illegal retention of national defense information, obstruction of government, and lying to the government.

While the trial is set for May 2024, some legal observers expect further delays.

The case traces back to Mr. Trump's January 2021 exit from the White House. His belongings and some of the documents from his time in office were packed in boxes and shipped to his home at the Mar-a-Lago resort in West Palm Beach, Florida.

The indictment argues that it was at this point that Mr. Trump committed 31 counts of illegally retaining national defense information because he "caused" the boxes to be moved. While this crime, under the Espionage Act, requires criminal intent, no evidence has emerged so far that Mr. Trump was aware the 31 documents in question were in the boxes.

It appears that Mr. Trump was under the impression that he could go through the boxes at his own pace and keep whatever he deemed personal.
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