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legendary
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September 06, 2023, 10:57:36 AM
United States politics seems to actually has jumped over the skark with the lastest declarations of Tucker Carlson during a recent interview he had. Now he is claming that since Trump could have not been stopped through alledged political prosecution, empeachments and other tools which alledgely the deep state uses to get rid of those who are against the system, then he has claimed it is just matter of time before Trump gets assassinated.

Kind of wacky if we think about it for a second, if some assassination attempt actually happened it would only help Trump to rally up his base even further, which would translate to his popularity increasing to higher number than ever before, if he actually gets killed (which I doubt it will happen), then it would certainly cause unrest around the whole country.

In case some of you feel curious enough about what I am talking about, there is Tucker Carlson:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98UpXcfbhQ8

Sorry if I could not find a better source, by the way.

What do you think? is there any possibility Trump's life could be in danger because of political reasons?


But when you think about it, there are a bunch of other options better than Trump.


Ron Paul for President!



https://www.lewrockwell.com/2023/09/lew-rockwell/why-ron-paul-should-run-for-president/
Many of us don't know whom to support for President. Brain-dead Biden is of course impossible. Donald Trump is better but he supports many bad policies, such as Covid vaccines and high tariffs, and his term as President was almost a total disaster. Robert Kennedy, Jr. is still better, but he is unsound on economics. There is only one person in the United States today who has the intellectual substance, homespun eloquence, charm, and charisma to galvanize the American public, who are tired of politics as usual and want a change. We know he has this ability because he has demonstrated it already in past campaigns, and he is 100% right on all issues. I refer of course to the heroic Dr. Ron Paul.

Some may worry about Ron's age, but as an athlete, he is in far better physical and mental condition than his main rivals. A presidential campaign need not be unduly time consuming. Ron can deliver speeches from his studio, and several of his supporters stand ready to fly him to any location in their private jets.

Many of us, including myself, have been involved in the Ron Paul movement for many years, Here is what the great Murray Rothbard said about him:

"Ron Paul is a most unusual politician – in many ways. In the first place, he really knows what he's talking about. He is not only for the gold standard. He knows why he is for it, and he is familiar with the most advanced and complex economic insights on the true nature of inflation, on how inflation works, and how inflationary credit expansions brings about booms and busts. And yet Ron has the remarkable ability to take these complex and vital insights and to present them in clear, lucid, hard-hitting terms to the non-economist reader. His economics is as sound as a bell.
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legendary
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September 06, 2023, 06:26:19 AM
United States politics seems to actually has jumped over the skark with the lastest declarations of Tucker Carlson during a recent interview he had. Now he is claming that since Trump could have not been stopped through alledged political prosecution, empeachments and other tools which alledgely the deep state uses to get rid of those who are against the system, then he has claimed it is just matter of time before Trump gets assassinated.

Kind of wacky if we think about it for a second, if some assassination attempt actually happened it would only help Trump to rally up his base even further, which would translate to his popularity increasing to higher number than ever before, if he actually gets killed (which I doubt it will happen), then it would certainly cause unrest around the whole country.

In case some of you feel curious enough about what I am talking about, there is Tucker Carlson:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=98UpXcfbhQ8

Sorry if I could not find a better source, by the way.

What do you think? is there any possibility Trump's life could be in danger because of political reasons?
legendary
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September 06, 2023, 12:29:24 AM
You're missing the whole point. Trump didn't go there to surrender.

He literally went to jail to surrender himself after being indicted  by a grand jury.  He had two options: wait till they came to get him or surrender.

He made the right choice for once.
Although it would have been fun to see him getting dragged to jail. In that case the bail money must have been higher as he clearly is a flight risk. I am not sure where he would have escaped and i guess that would prevent him for being a candinate in 2024
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September 04, 2023, 02:02:00 AM
Thank you sizarimuth.

From: BADecker
legendary
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September 03, 2023, 02:16:18 PM
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Notice that they had a whole bunch of extra police protection, etc., that day. Trump went right through that police protection by not doing anything to 'activate' it. Then he got inside where his surrender is causing their downfall.

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WTF are you on about? Did that tin foil hat of yours just go into extra high madcap mode or something?

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Btw, thank sirazimuth for me, for his wonderful self-portrait of himself, a couple posts above. Apparently he has a lot of love, all that dark chocolate under that Hershey Kiss wrapping.

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Why thanx Bud. Also, thanx for letting me borrow your hat. I needed to make my daughter laugh. It worked.
legendary
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September 03, 2023, 11:59:08 AM
You're missing the whole point. Trump didn't go there to surrender.

He literally went to jail to surrender himself after being indicted  by a grand jury.  He had two options: wait till they came to get him or surrender.

He made the right choice for once.

Trump would thank you for your agreement with him on his choice.

Notice that they had a whole bunch of extra police protection, etc., that day. Trump went right through that police protection by not doing anything to 'activate' it. Then he got inside where his surrender is causing their downfall.

Btw, thank sirazimuth for me, for his wonderful self-portrait of himself, a couple posts above. Apparently he has a lot of love, all that dark chocolate under that Hershey Kiss wrapping.

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September 02, 2023, 08:13:18 PM
You're missing the whole point. Trump didn't go there to surrender.

He literally went to jail to surrender himself after being indicted  by a grand jury.  He had two options: wait till they came to get him or surrender.

He made the right choice for once.
legendary
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September 02, 2023, 05:43:06 PM
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..... He went there to make THEM surrender. He simply hasn't gotten that far yet. Watch his process.

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Gotta love ya Bud. You never cease to make me lmao.

legendary
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September 02, 2023, 05:25:11 PM
Shills a tee shirt (likely made in China) emblazoned with NEVER SURRENDER and his mugshot, to fleece his ignorant, worshipping flock of $34. Gotta pay those mounting astronomical legal fees, doncha know.
(his plan all along when he sported that ridiculous look...like a 5 year old's expression when about to throw a tantrum)

And its a pic of him when he surrendered..

You can't make this shit up.



You're missing the whole point. Trump didn't go there to surrender. He went there to make THEM surrender. He simply hasn't gotten that far yet. Watch his process.

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legendary
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September 02, 2023, 04:27:57 PM
Shills a tee shirt (likely made in China) emblazoned with NEVER SURRENDER and his mugshot, to fleece his ignorant, worshipping flock of $34. Gotta pay those mounting astronomical legal fees, doncha know.
(his plan all along when he sported that ridiculous look...like a 5 year old's expression when about to throw a tantrum)

And its a pic of him when he surrendered..

You can't make this shit up.

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September 01, 2023, 06:12:45 AM
And he knows, I can’t imagine that people are so angry in Georgia, I can’t imagine he’s ever getting elected again I’ll tell you that much right now.




Omg this is hof BADecker:

Part of the difference is that I have a lot of website evidence, and other.


I love it when he gets flustered and his IQ shows.













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September 01, 2023, 05:01:58 AM
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I really don't like being a copycat, but a lot of what I am doing is just copying you... in the opposite direction, of course.

Part of the difference is that I have a lot of website evidence, and other. If you could find some for your opinions, you might have some evidence.

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 You are much worse than a copycat - do not even try to compare yourself to me (or, for that matter, anyone here with a minimal critical thinking ... or someone without brain damage in general).

Let's see what this proud American BA is linking:

naturalnews.com, part of "Consumer Wellness Center", part of "Terra Christa Communications":
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Company Type Foreign Nonprofit Corporation

https://opencorporates.com/companies/us_hi/14405F2

Yep... looks like this defender of America links like 50% of the time to a foreign owned website - non-profit for education, religion and similar purposes.

Now on to Trump:

Even after Fox had to admit and pay for lying about the elections, even after several judges dismissed the wild claims of fraud, even after people actually Republicans endorsed by Trump said there is no fraud, you keep spreading disinformation in the purest Kremlin style.

FRAUD CLAIMS ARE LIES

https://www.npr.org/2023/02/28/1159819849/fox-news-dominion-voting-rupert-murdoch-2020-election-fraud

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Rupert Murdoch says Fox stars 'endorsed' lies about 2020. He chose not to stop them

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The last-minute deal came as a surprise to those who were looking forward to a blockbuster courtroom drama, but the bigger shock might be that Fox didn’t settle earlier. Given that the judge had already gone into caps-lock mode when he ruled in March that it “is CRYSTAL clear that none of the statements relating to Dominion about the 2020 election are true”

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/06/13/trumps-election-fraud-claims-were-false-here-are-his-advisers-who-said-so-00039346

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A pattern emerged during Monday’s hearing of the Jan. 6 select committee. Aides of former President Donald Trump repeatedly told him the election was over or nearly impossible to overturn. He had lost.

In numerous video recordings, they admitted they found Trump’s fraud claims untrue — and that he did indeed lose the 2020 election to Joe Biden.

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The committee chair, Rep. Bennie Thompson (D-Miss.), said the investigation would show how “Donald Trump lost an election and knew he lost an election and, as a result of his loss, decided to wage an attack on our democracy.”

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The former Justice Department official went through claim after claim of election fraud with Trump, he told the committee. He told Trump, “much of the info you’re getting is false.”

“I tried to, again, put this in perspective and try to put it in very clear terms to the president. I said something to the effect of, ‘Sir, we’ve done dozens of investigations, hundreds of interviews. The major allegations are not supported by the evidence developed. We’ve looked in Georgia, Pennsylvania, Michigan, Nevada,’” Donoghue said in a recorded interview shared by the committee. “‘We’re doing our job. Much of the info you’re getting is false.’”

But you have as many as you want:
https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trumps-false-claims-debunked-2020-election-jan-6-riot-2022-01-06/

Jokingly, if so many people were actually involved in electoral fraud, it would probably not be necessary, they would be already a majority.


TRUMPS CONVERSATION TRANSCRIPT:

https://edition.cnn.com/2021/01/03/politics/trump-brad-raffensperger-phone-call-transcript/index.html

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Raffensperger: Well Mr. President, the challenge that you have is, the data you have is wrong. We talked to the congressmen and they were surprised.

But they — I guess there was a person Mr. Braynard who came to these meetings and presented data and he said that there was dead people, I believe it was upward of 5,000. The actual number were two. Two. Two people that were dead that voted. So that’s wrong. There were two.

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Raffensperger: Mr. President, they did not put that. We did an audit of that and we proved conclusively that they were not scanned three times.

Trump: Where was everybody else at that late time in the morning? Where was everybody? Where were the Republicans? Where were the security guards? Where were the people that were there just a little while before when everyone ran out of the room. How come we had no security in the room? Why did they run to the bottom of the table? Why do they run there and just open the skirt and rip out the votes? I mean, Brad. And they were sitting there, I think for five hours or something like that, the votes. But they just all happened to run back and go, you know, Brad…

Raffensperger: Mr. President, we’ll send you the link from WSB.

Trump: I don’t care about the link. I don’t need it. Brad, I have a much better link

He has a "better link".

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Germany: We had our — this is Ryan Germany. We had our law enforcement officers talk to everyone who was who was there after that event came to light. GBI was with them as well as FBI agents.

Trump: Well, there’s no way they could — then they’re incompetent. They’re either dishonest or incompetent, okay?

If I am not right is because someone else is incompetent.

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Trump: How many people do that? They moved out and then they said, “Ah, to hell with it I’ll move back.” You know, it doesn’t sound like a very normal … you mean, they moved out, and what, they missed it so much that they wanted to move back in? It’s crazy.

Germany: This is they moved back in years ago

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Germany: This is Ryan Germany. No, Dominion has not moved any machinery out of Fulton County.

Trump: But have they moved the inner parts of the machines and replaced them with other parts?

Germany: No.

Trump: Are you sure, Ryan?

Germany: I’m sure. I’m sure, Mr. President.

And once it is clear that none of Trump's allegations are going to ever fly in a court (as they did not) we go into bully territory:

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Trump: Because you guys are so wrong. And you treated this. You treated the population of Georgia so badly. You, between you and your governor, who was down at 21, he was down 21 points. And like a schmuck, I endorsed him and he got elected, but I will tell you, he is a disaster.

And he knows, I can’t imagine that people are so angry in Georgia, I can’t imagine he’s ever getting elected again I’ll tell you that much right now. But why wouldn’t you want to find the right answer, Brad, instead of keep saying that the numbers are right? Cause those numbers are so wrong?

In the context of a conversation about vote counting, Trump starts speaking about being elected again, ending political careers and endorsing candidates. And then:

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Raffensperger: Mr. President, you have people that submit information and we have our people that submit information. And then it comes before the court and the court then has to make a determination. We have to stand by our numbers. We believe our numbers are right.

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And why wouldn’t you want to say, hey, if in fact, President Trump is right about that, then he wins the state of Georgia, just that one incident alone without going through hundreds of thousands of dropped ballots

So easy... you just say "we were wrong", Trump is president, you get endorsed and re-elected and that's it. This is the real danger that "America" faces.

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And because of what you’ve done to the president, a lot of people aren’t going out to vote and a lot of Republicans are going to vote negative because they hate what you did to the president. Okay? They hate it. And they’re going to vote. And you would be respected. Really respected, if this thing could be straightened out before the election. You have a big election coming up on Tuesday. And therefore I think that it is really important that you meet tomorrow and work out on these numbers.

And you get re-elected... simple uh? You just have to ignore the law, just like Trump does.


Now BA, go giving "link proofs" as you call your clickbaits - I am sure you are making lots of traffic to your sites using this forum.












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September 01, 2023, 02:25:31 AM
The indictments in Georgia are a sham. There isn't anything legal about them.

That's for the court to determine.  I get the sense that the prosecution knows what they're doing.  I'd also take it as a given that they know more about the law than you do.  It's unlikely they'd waste their time building these cases if they thought it would fall at the first hurdle.  You're merely clutching at straws because you aren't prepared to accept the consequences of your Bigot-Messiah's actions.
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August 31, 2023, 05:19:27 PM
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Nice.. nice... an answer by the manual...


1- You said
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Biden's are way worse.
, which implicitly means Trump did bad stuff - so you are giving credit to all that "hearsay" yourself. See? That is the problem of defending by saying "the other guy is worse" - it means that you are no good yourself.
Trumps biggest wrong when president, was not recognizing how crooked the Deep State really was. If he had recognized it, he would have been able to take measures to stop them from stealing the vote and the presidency.



2. MAGA is a slogan for simple minds. There is not philosophy behind... it is whatever Trump says, even if when it contradicts something he said before.
It is as I said before. Somebody from another country may not want America to be great. Russia probably doesn't like the idea of America being great. But common, law abiding, God-fearing Americans certainly do, simply because America is their country.

Don't you have any patriotism for your country? Or don't you have a country, so you are simply angry with everyone?



3. Again, is not about weighting what "he did good" vs "the crimes he committed". Justice is an independent power in a democracy, so the fact that Trump is "liked" is irrelevant to him getting behind bars if (I would say when) proven guilty. It does not work by balancing, it works by owning your acts and playing within the legal rules.
Many people are speculating on what the courts will decide. Nobody condemns you for having your non-American opinion.

However, you don't know about the American government. The Democracy part is the second part. The higher part is the Republic, that doesn't work like a Democracy. Personally, I don't think Trump knows how to use it. But maybe he does. I'll show it to you right now.

If in any charge, Trump requires anybody to get on the stand and show the injury Trump did to him, there isn't anybody. Trump harmed nobody. No case.



4. You are very confused about what an US president can and cannot do. The "presidential pardon" does not work in a number of cases he is being judged for and if guilty of trying to subvert the system he would not even be able to run for president. You need to read the US constitution and listen to some legal experts on this matter.
No, it is you who don't know US law.

The indictments are about something that Trump supposedly did while still in office. Now that he is out of office, and way past the statute of limitations, Trump should be tried in a court in his home state.

It's kinda like if somebody in the US wanted to indict you. He would have to go to your country, and operate through your country's legal channels. The indictments in Georgia are a sham. There isn't anything legal about them.



On regards to your comment of "if you are not from the US then you are an enemy of America" is the same as what you say: if you do not think like I do you are an enemy. (again, I guess you mean the US, America is a continent - or two in some books). Is always the same... the words of a wannabe dictator.

That is kinda true. People from different countries often don't think alike. So, since you stated the obvious, and then you tried to use semantics on the word 'America', you are showing us all that you are simply a foreigner trying to play games with people in a country not your own.

Cool

The fact that you consider that your opinion is the only valid "American" (meaning US, which is not America) does not make it so. The fact that you try to hide Trump's very likely criminal acts behind a very poorly constructed attack on me or who I am, or what I represent means that you are not better than a Taliban. You lack culture, reasoning and are the perfect example of why the US is in danger.

You do not even understand the concepts behind the US constitution and what it really means the US democracy - created by illustrious men whose main achievement was precisely to consider different viewpoints, creating guarantees of freedom for all and a system that can be protected from self-proclaimed leaders that think the they simply can be above the law of the country.

Because that is all the problem here - Trump and his court of singers thinking that he can be above the law. The time to prove it wrong has arrived no matter how much you insult and spread shit to cover up.



I really don't like being a copycat, but a lot of what I am doing is just copying you... in the opposite direction, of course.

Part of the difference is that I have a lot of website evidence, and other. If you could find some for your opinions, you might have some evidence.

Cool
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August 31, 2023, 05:04:50 PM
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Nice.. nice... an answer by the manual...


1- You said
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Biden's are way worse.
, which implicitly means Trump did bad stuff - so you are giving credit to all that "hearsay" yourself. See? That is the problem of defending by saying "the other guy is worse" - it means that you are no good yourself.
Trumps biggest wrong when president, was not recognizing how crooked the Deep State really was. If he had recognized it, he would have been able to take measures to stop them from stealing the vote and the presidency.



2. MAGA is a slogan for simple minds. There is not philosophy behind... it is whatever Trump says, even if when it contradicts something he said before.
It is as I said before. Somebody from another country may not want America to be great. Russia probably doesn't like the idea of America being great. But common, law abiding, God-fearing Americans certainly do, simply because America is their country.

Don't you have any patriotism for your country? Or don't you have a country, so you are simply angry with everyone?



3. Again, is not about weighting what "he did good" vs "the crimes he committed". Justice is an independent power in a democracy, so the fact that Trump is "liked" is irrelevant to him getting behind bars if (I would say when) proven guilty. It does not work by balancing, it works by owning your acts and playing within the legal rules.
Many people are speculating on what the courts will decide. Nobody condemns you for having your non-American opinion.

However, you don't know about the American government. The Democracy part is the second part. The higher part is the Republic, that doesn't work like a Democracy. Personally, I don't think Trump knows how to use it. But maybe he does. I'll show it to you right now.

If in any charge, Trump requires anybody to get on the stand and show the injury Trump did to him, there isn't anybody. Trump harmed nobody. No case.



4. You are very confused about what an US president can and cannot do. The "presidential pardon" does not work in a number of cases he is being judged for and if guilty of trying to subvert the system he would not even be able to run for president. You need to read the US constitution and listen to some legal experts on this matter.
No, it is you who don't know US law.

The indictments are about something that Trump supposedly did while still in office. Now that he is out of office, and way past the statute of limitations, Trump should be tried in a court in his home state.

It's kinda like if somebody in the US wanted to indict you. He would have to go to your country, and operate through your country's legal channels. The indictments in Georgia are a sham. There isn't anything legal about them.



On regards to your comment of "if you are not from the US then you are an enemy of America" is the same as what you say: if you do not think like I do you are an enemy. (again, I guess you mean the US, America is a continent - or two in some books). Is always the same... the words of a wannabe dictator.

That is kinda true. People from different countries often don't think alike. So, since you stated the obvious, and then you tried to use semantics on the word 'America', you are showing us all that you are simply a foreigner trying to play games with people in a country not your own.

Cool

The fact that you consider that your opinion is the only valid "American" (meaning US, which is not America) does not make it so. The fact that you try to hide Trump's very likely criminal acts behind a very poorly constructed attack on me or who I am, or what I represent means that you are not better than a Taliban. You lack culture, reasoning and are the perfect example of why the US is in danger.

You do not even understand the concepts behind the US constitution and what it really means the US democracy - created by illustrious men whose main achievement was precisely to consider different viewpoints, creating guarantees of freedom for all and a system that can be protected from self-proclaimed leaders that think the they simply can be above the law of the country.

Because that is all the problem here - Trump and his court of singers thinking that he can be above the law. The time to prove it wrong has arrived no matter how much you insult and spread shit to cover up.

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August 30, 2023, 07:33:39 PM
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Nice.. nice... an answer by the manual...


1- You said
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Biden's are way worse.
, which implicitly means Trump did bad stuff - so you are giving credit to all that "hearsay" yourself. See? That is the problem of defending by saying "the other guy is worse" - it means that you are no good yourself.
Trumps biggest wrong when president, was not recognizing how crooked the Deep State really was. If he had recognized it, he would have been able to take measures to stop them from stealing the vote and the presidency.



2. MAGA is a slogan for simple minds. There is not philosophy behind... it is whatever Trump says, even if when it contradicts something he said before.
It is as I said before. Somebody from another country may not want America to be great. Russia probably doesn't like the idea of America being great. But common, law abiding, God-fearing Americans certainly do, simply because America is their country.

Don't you have any patriotism for your country? Or don't you have a country, so you are simply angry with everyone?



3. Again, is not about weighting what "he did good" vs "the crimes he committed". Justice is an independent power in a democracy, so the fact that Trump is "liked" is irrelevant to him getting behind bars if (I would say when) proven guilty. It does not work by balancing, it works by owning your acts and playing within the legal rules.
Many people are speculating on what the courts will decide. Nobody condemns you for having your non-American opinion.

However, you don't know about the American government. The Democracy part is the second part. The higher part is the Republic, that doesn't work like a Democracy. Personally, I don't think Trump knows how to use it. But maybe he does. I'll show it to you right now.

If in any charge, Trump requires anybody to get on the stand and show the injury Trump did to him, there isn't anybody. Trump harmed nobody. No case.



4. You are very confused about what an US president can and cannot do. The "presidential pardon" does not work in a number of cases he is being judged for and if guilty of trying to subvert the system he would not even be able to run for president. You need to read the US constitution and listen to some legal experts on this matter.
No, it is you who don't know US law.

The indictments are about something that Trump supposedly did while still in office. Now that he is out of office, and way past the statute of limitations, Trump should be tried in a court in his home state.

It's kinda like if somebody in the US wanted to indict you. He would have to go to your country, and operate through your country's legal channels. The indictments in Georgia are a sham. There isn't anything legal about them.



On regards to your comment of "if you are not from the US then you are an enemy of America" is the same as what you say: if you do not think like I do you are an enemy. (again, I guess you mean the US, America is a continent - or two in some books). Is always the same... the words of a wannabe dictator.

That is kinda true. People from different countries often don't think alike. So, since you stated the obvious, and then you tried to use semantics on the word 'America', you are showing us all that you are simply a foreigner trying to play games with people in a country not your own.

Cool
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August 30, 2023, 06:41:41 PM
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In America, standard law is "innocent until proven guilty." The law even says that an agreement CANNOT be made by the defendant to state that he is guilty when he is not. So, there you are with the hard facts. They are hard for you, because you can't get around them.

If you have solid proof that Trump is guilty of wrongdoing, take him to court on it. If you don't, it's just another bunch of hearsay like they are throwing at him in these sham trials.

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Some more facts:

Trump lost the 2020 election to Joe Biden.

Trump University was a scam.

The Trump Foundation was shut down over fraud.

Trump Organization was convicted on felony criminal fraud charges by a jury.

Trump was held liable for sexual assault by a jury.

Trump was impeached twice.

Trumps personal attorney during 2016 campaign is a convicted felon.

Trumps national security advisor is a convicted felon.

The chair of Trumps 2016 campaign is a convicted felon.

Trump has been indicted on almost 100 felony charges by four different grand jurys.

In 2016 Trump campaigned on locking his political opponent up. His supporters loved it.


So, there you are with the hard facts.



Besides the fact that not all of your list, above, is accurate or accurately said, everybody has skeletons in their closet. Biden's are way worse.

So, you prove that this is an election thing by picking on Trump without giving adequate bigger time to Biden.


And for you personally, this proves that you are anti-American, because you fight against the idea of Make America Great Again.


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Way worse, like mine are bad but his are even worse? Like Trump is guilty of trying a coup-d'etat, threating officials, stealing, evading, but Biden has other stuff that is worse?

Anti-American because does not support your ideas. so there is only one America (US not really America), there is only one way of making it great and it is only MY way so all the rest are just not American enough? Can you not see anything wrong in any of this?


The only way you can know this is if you were right there with Trump when he was doing what he was doing. In other words, you are spreading hearsay and rumors. There has been no verdict in court.

Sure there are a bunch of people who are like you... trying to pick on what looks like bad things that Trump might have done. But there are millions in the polls who would vote for Trump because they can see the good things he does.

What is MAGA? MAGA IS Make America Great Again. MAGA is one of the things Trump did half of this in his first term. Biden not only tore down the MAGA Trump did, but he made it far, far worse.

You are in another country, right? You are not an American, right? No wonder you are talking like you do. You just happen to be an enemy of the US... as are some of the other people in this forum who are against Trump.

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Nice.. nice... an answer by the manual...


1- You said
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Biden's are way worse.
, which implicitly means Trump did bad stuff - so you are giving credit to all that "hearsay" yourself. See? That is the problem of defending by saying "the other guy is worse" - it means that you are no good yourself.

2. MAGA is a slogan for simple minds. There is not philosophy behind... it is whatever Trump says, even if when it contradicts something he said before.

3. Again, is not about weighting what "he did good" vs "the crimes he committed". Justice is an independent power in a democracy, so the fact that Trump is "liked" is irrelevant to him getting behind bars if (I would say when) proven guilty. It does not work by balancing, it works by owning your acts and playing within the legal rules.

4. You are very confused about what an US president can and cannot do. The "presidential pardon" does not work in a number of cases he is being judged for and if guilty of trying to subvert the system he would not even be able to run for president. You need to read the US constitution and listen to some legal experts on this matter.

On regards to your comment of "if you are not from the US then you are an enemy of America" is the same as what you say: if you do not think like I do you are an enemy. (again, I guess you mean the US, America is a continent - or two in some books). Is always the same... the words of a wannabe dictator.
legendary
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August 30, 2023, 04:07:55 PM
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In America, standard law is "innocent until proven guilty." The law even says that an agreement CANNOT be made by the defendant to state that he is guilty when he is not. So, there you are with the hard facts. They are hard for you, because you can't get around them.

If you have solid proof that Trump is guilty of wrongdoing, take him to court on it. If you don't, it's just another bunch of hearsay like they are throwing at him in these sham trials.

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Some more facts:

Trump lost the 2020 election to Joe Biden.

Trump University was a scam.

The Trump Foundation was shut down over fraud.

Trump Organization was convicted on felony criminal fraud charges by a jury.

Trump was held liable for sexual assault by a jury.

Trump was impeached twice.

Trumps personal attorney during 2016 campaign is a convicted felon.

Trumps national security advisor is a convicted felon.

The chair of Trumps 2016 campaign is a convicted felon.

Trump has been indicted on almost 100 felony charges by four different grand jurys.

In 2016 Trump campaigned on locking his political opponent up. His supporters loved it.


So, there you are with the hard facts.



Besides the fact that not all of your list, above, is accurate or accurately said, everybody has skeletons in their closet. Biden's are way worse.

So, you prove that this is an election thing by picking on Trump without giving adequate bigger time to Biden.


And for you personally, this proves that you are anti-American, because you fight against the idea of Make America Great Again.


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Way worse, like mine are bad but his are even worse? Like Trump is guilty of trying a coup-d'etat, threating officials, stealing, evading, but Biden has other stuff that is worse?

Anti-American because does not support your ideas. so there is only one America (US not really America), there is only one way of making it great and it is only MY way so all the rest are just not American enough? Can you not see anything wrong in any of this?


The only way you can know this is if you were right there with Trump when he was doing what he was doing. In other words, you are spreading hearsay and rumors. There has been no verdict in court.

Sure there are a bunch of people who are like you... trying to pick on what looks like bad things that Trump might have done. But there are millions in the polls who would vote for Trump because they can see the good things he does.

What is MAGA? MAGA IS Make America Great Again. MAGA is one of the things Trump did half of this in his first term. Biden not only tore down the MAGA Trump did, but he made it far, far worse.

You are in another country, right? You are not an American, right? No wonder you are talking like you do. You just happen to be an enemy of the US... as are some of the other people in this forum who are against Trump.

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legendary
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Merit: 1632
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August 30, 2023, 03:16:12 PM
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In America, standard law is "innocent until proven guilty." The law even says that an agreement CANNOT be made by the defendant to state that he is guilty when he is not. So, there you are with the hard facts. They are hard for you, because you can't get around them.

If you have solid proof that Trump is guilty of wrongdoing, take him to court on it. If you don't, it's just another bunch of hearsay like they are throwing at him in these sham trials.

Cool

Some more facts:

Trump lost the 2020 election to Joe Biden.

Trump University was a scam.

The Trump Foundation was shut down over fraud.

Trump Organization was convicted on felony criminal fraud charges by a jury.

Trump was held liable for sexual assault by a jury.

Trump was impeached twice.

Trumps personal attorney during 2016 campaign is a convicted felon.

Trumps national security advisor is a convicted felon.

The chair of Trumps 2016 campaign is a convicted felon.

Trump has been indicted on almost 100 felony charges by four different grand jurys.

In 2016 Trump campaigned on locking his political opponent up. His supporters loved it.


So, there you are with the hard facts.



Besides the fact that not all of your list, above, is accurate or accurately said, everybody has skeletons in their closet. Biden's are way worse.

So, you prove that this is an election thing by picking on Trump without giving adequate bigger time to Biden.


And for you personally, this proves that you are anti-American, because you fight against the idea of Make America Great Again.


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Way worse, like mine are bad but his are even worse? Like Trump is guilty of trying a coup-d'etat, threating officials, stealing, evading, but Biden has other stuff that is worse?

Anti-American because does not support your ideas. so there is only one America (US not really America), there is only one way of making it great and it is only MY way so all the rest are just not American enough? Can you not see anything wrong in any of this?




legendary
Activity: 3990
Merit: 1385
August 30, 2023, 12:33:59 PM
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In America, standard law is "innocent until proven guilty." The law even says that an agreement CANNOT be made by the defendant to state that he is guilty when he is not. So, there you are with the hard facts. They are hard for you, because you can't get around them.

If you have solid proof that Trump is guilty of wrongdoing, take him to court on it. If you don't, it's just another bunch of hearsay like they are throwing at him in these sham trials.

Cool

Some more facts:

Trump lost the 2020 election to Joe Biden.

Trump University was a scam.

The Trump Foundation was shut down over fraud.

Trump Organization was convicted on felony criminal fraud charges by a jury.

Trump was held liable for sexual assault by a jury.

Trump was impeached twice.

Trumps personal attorney during 2016 campaign is a convicted felon.

Trumps national security advisor is a convicted felon.

The chair of Trumps 2016 campaign is a convicted felon.

Trump has been indicted on almost 100 felony charges by four different grand jurys.

In 2016 Trump campaigned on locking his political opponent up. His supporters loved it.


So, there you are with the hard facts.



Besides the fact that not all of your list, above, is accurate or accurately said, everybody has skeletons in their closet. Biden's are way worse.

So, you prove that this is an election thing by picking on Trump without giving adequate bigger time to Biden.


And for you personally, this proves that you are anti-American, because you fight against the idea of Make America Great Again.


REPORT: Smoking Gun 'Evidence of Joe Biden's Corruption' Will Be Released in Coming Week



https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/matt-margolis/2023/08/29/report-smoking-gun-evidence-of-joe-bidens-corruption-will-be-released-in-coming-weeks-n1722959
According to Kelly, the contents of the recording are so incriminating that they could potentially lead President Biden to withdraw from the 2024 race.

"There is an audio tape — I am told by people in the know, not necessarily in government, not necessarily out of government — I can't say too much. But there is incontrovertible evidence of Joe Biden's corruption that is about to be made public," Kelly claimed.

Don't get too excited yet. There's a catch.

"It's not going to happen tomorrow, it's not going to happen before Labor Day, but it will happen sometime between Labor Day and Halloween," he said. "This tape will be made public — I'm not sure by what entity at this point — but once it is heard, Joe Biden will have… well… he'll have only two options. Number one: he will not be able to remain a candidate for the presidency for reelection. It will be over and done with; the only thing that he might be able to do potentially, but probably not, is remain as president."

Kelly claims his sources tell him that this tape is so incriminating that "they're worried about it right now at the White House."

"They know about it," Kelly insists. "They know what's out there. There may be more than one and it makes a lot of sense."
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