Topic: Will Trump be indicted ? - page 9. (Read 3358 times)

How did I know you would be 1st to reply to my comment Bud?
And of course like all typical deluded Trump cultists, (for that matter, all the GOP Trump spineless toadie politicians, with not an ounce of integrity, but just pander to their ignorant base... Lindsey Graham comes to mind)
you didn't address  the substance of the indictments and whether or not you think they are valid, and why. Because you cant.
You just deflect off into Biden whataboutism. Pathetic. Keep living in your Trump fascist dictator fantasy land, Bud. You seem to want that. To hell with democracy. I wonder what your imaginary friend thinks of your behavior? But hey, I will give you credit for not babbling on incessantly about Hunter Biden's laptop.

BTW, When Trump gets convicted of insurrection crimes, by law, he will be barred from ever holding office again.
Also federal pardons don't work on state crimes.

There's nothing that says a President can't pardon himself... or rule from jail if he wants.

Of course, indictments aren't convictions. Besides they can go both ways.

As corrupt Biden destroys America and the world, his activity just might wake people up to the fact that the real big bad lies with Biden... that Trump is almost like an angel when compared with Biden. However, if the people won't wake up, Biden will destroy them. It's happening right now, and you can see it in the state of the economy.

Indictment #3 incoming shortly…
https://youtu.be/ncqIJFfHlKc
And then #4 (Georgia election interference) is due in August.
And this criminal is apparently the GOP presidential frontrunner.
He ain’t going to the Whitehouse. He’s going to the jail house.
Then once this failed crook is in jail, he’ll be looking to sell
the insurrection movie rights to the highest Hollywood bidder, because of course he will.
(be going to jail that is)

You can't easily tell, of course, if this guy flipped his position because he knows that Trump will win. It could all have to do with switching sides to keep from being prosecuted by Trump (as much) later. But maybe he is an honest guy, and just couldn't take the criminal Biden operations any longer.


Top FBI Deep Stater Who Played Key Role in Trump Raid FLIPS -- Admits FBI Search Was Illegal

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https://needtoknow.news/2023/06/top-fbi-deep-stater-who-played-key-role-in-trump-raid-flips-admits-fbi-search-was-illegal/
The official in question is Steven D'Antuono, a particularly notable whistleblower given the integral role he played in the kidnapping entrapment plot of Gov. Gretchen Whitmer (D-Mich.), which earned him a promotion as Assistant Director in Charge of the FBI Washington Field Office (WFO) in 2020.

D'Antuono's office subsequently quarterbacked the mass arrests and prosecutions of hundreds of Trump supporters following the January 6 protests.

In a letter sent to Attorney General Merrick Garland on Thursday, Rep. Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) claimed D'Antuono voluntarily came forward to the House Judiciary Committee to reveal his objections with how the bureau executed the raid of Mar-a-Lago.

"On June 7, 2023—days before the reported indictment of former President Trump—the Committee conducted a transcribed interview of Steven D'Antuono," Jordan wrote.

"Mr. D'Antuono served as the former Assistant Director in Charge of the FBI's Washington Field Office (WFO) and one of the most senior FBI officials in charge of effectuating the unprecedented raid of President Trump's residence at Mar-a-Lago. During his testimony, Mr. D'Antuono expressed strong concerns with the Department's pursuit of the raid and noted several unusual features in the Department's handling of the case."
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Exactly what Trump was attempting to do. Then Biden used some of his stolen authority to steal docs that had been 'confidential' and 'classified' documents... docs that Trump was trying to maintain safely away from Biden who doesn't understand the meaning of 'confidential' or classified'.

We all can see by Biden's corrupt activity in office, that even if Trump did some kind of hand-slap wrong, that Biden is a thousand times worse in his directing of the country, and sharing 'confidential' and 'classified' documents with enemies and potential enemies... exactly the thing that Trump was trying to protect us from.

Thanks for the Trump advertising, though.

Bill Clinton kept an audio journal in his sock drawer. 

When Republicans found out they sued him for it, claiming the tapes belonged to the office.

A judge ruled that the personal journal was a personal record, which was defined in an ammendment to the Presidential record act.

Here's the definition
https://uscode.house.gov/view.xhtml?path=/prelim@title44/chapter22&edition=prelim



Here's a list the documents he's being charged for keeping, hiding from the FBI, lying about hiding them, etc...








Here's a picture of how some of them were stored at his beach club in florida:









“WE CAN’T HAVE SOMEONE IN THE OVAL OFFICE WHO DOESN’T UNDERSTAND THE MEANING OF THE WORD ‘CONFIDENTIAL’ OR ‘CLASSIFIED.’”
- Donald J. Trump

Looks like Trump was legal in keeping the records and documents, after all. The 'Presidential Records Act' allows the President to keep any government records as personal records, as long as he removes them from government while he is in office. This was adjudicated to be so in a case where Clinton did this.

What the whole thing means is that everybody who raided Mar-a-Lago, did so as theft and invasion of privacy, against the 4th Amendment. It will be interesting to see if Trump files against them.

Also, see http://www.freedomsphoenix.com/News/345377-2023-06-15-is-this-proof-the-trump-indictment-is-a-scam.htm and the Youtube video there.


Trump Dismantles Sham Indictment By Criminal Democrats

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https://banned.video/watch?id=648a40a547c3b95f250599f0
Trump made the extraordinary remarks during a rally in Bedminster, New Jersey, following his unprecedented arraignment in Miami, Florida over federal charges related to classified documents at Mar-a-Lago.
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Well, tomorrow is the day we will see history in the making, regardless you are a Trump supporter or not.
The first former president of the United states to be Federally charged with a crime, what a time to be alive, this is the kind of stuff what will appear in the history books and kids will study in the future in high schools.  

It would be funny if Trump did not show up at court and a manhunt was issued but we all know he is intelligent to realize that that won't help him in his political ambitions. Also, those transcripts are simply unreal, how someone can talk about classified documents so lightly... specially those about attacks on adversaries and military weaknesses.

[Laughter]

Hey Bud, I don't give a rat's ass about sore loser Kari Lake and her delusions and blatant lies that have completely bamboozled the likes of credulous nut cases like you.
Go start another thread about it.
Stop polluting this thread with your usual nonsense links and maybe comment on why Trumps indictments are/are not valid.

Good thing that the Dems stole the election from Kari Lake in Arizona. Now she has the freedom to support Trump while she is preparing her own case for the Supreme Court.


WATCH: “I HATE Joe Biden’s Administration. It’s a Fraudulent, Illegitimate Administration” – Kari Lake Slams Mike Pence, Responds to Trump Indictment, Calls On GOP Presidential Candidates to DROP OUT OF RACE

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https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2023/06/watch-i-hate-joe-bidens-administration-its-fraudulent/
Kari Lake responded to President Trump's highly politicized indictment yesterday on Sebastian Gorka's show ahead of her big appearance at the Georgia GOP convention.

The Gateway Pundit reported that Kari Lake is headed to Miami for President Trump's arraignment on Tuesday to support him in his fight against the radical Marxist Biden Regime.

Kari Lake also released a statement yesterday calling President Trump's latest indictment "the most blatant act of election interference in our nation's history." Lake further called on the Republican Party to "unite to save our country from this historic corruption and work to return President Donald J. Trump to the White House in 2024."
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Trump has an easy-out:  Just say he or one of his people was gathering the info for Israel's national security.  Neither side will say anything more about it than they did when Israeli IMSI-catchers where found to be plying the political quarters of the nation's capital under Trump's watch.  That is to say, nothing.

And now we know the search warrant was totally justified. Traitor Trump is done, will be convicted and is going to jail.

https://youtu.be/QMcmDc2PYrs?t=424s


https://youtu.be/QMcmDc2PYrs

Well, it seems this is worse than anyone could imagine. One thing is to store nuclear secrets or foreign adversaries on your desktop, but doing so with your own countries' nuclear information and possible vulnerabilities of your homeland and your allies is a completely different story.

If this can be proven to be the case, I could see a real (although small) possibility of Trump actually spending time behind bars... Other people have been labelled traitor for lesser stuff than this in the United States.

This is not a letter from the North Korean dictator.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/06/09/us/trump-indictment-document-annotated.html



yikes

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Jack pwnz Trump.

Things continue to heat up, it seems. Tuesday is gonna be interesting, to see how Trump react in person and in front of a Federal Judge.
I would have guessed that the Georgia State authorities would have come forward before those Feds in Florida, but I guess Jack Smith has been working faster than I expected.

Also, I have read and heard that in the case Trump gets convicted of a Federal crime and still manages to become the president of the USA, he could technically pardon himself. Is that right or it is just some fake news/ interpretations of the USA law. 

He seems to be taking it pretty well...



The crazy part is how many people are still buying his bullshit and parroting back his rants.  Probably millions of Americans that have been brainwashed into not believing anything they read unless it's coming from a MAGATard that honestly think this is happening simply because Trump took a few documents with him on the way out and Biden did the same thing.

Pretty much any other Republican candidate would be a favorite in the general election (besides Pence I suppose), but it's looking like they're going to go with the guy that already lost to Biden and this time he will be wearing an ankle bracelet...

Smart play is obviously work out a deal with DeSantis, endorsement for a pardon.  

Yes Trump is indicted...again ...twice (and counting). I actually think he maybe eventually spending some time at the Stoney Lonesome...wouldn't that be some serious karma?
So lets see...
-Impeached not once but twice, during his laughable failed presidency.
-Indicted for filing false business records in the state of New York.
-Found liable in a civil case for sexual assault, $5 million damages and now being sued again.
-Soon to be indicted for election interference in Georgia.
-Soon to be indicted for planning and trying to execute a failed violent insurrection (indictment #3 or $4)
-And now federally indicted for stealing and not returning classified docs and possible (probable) obstruction of justice.

And he is the republican front runner for potus 2024 election.

You can't make this shit up.

Proof is simple. In the US, the standard is 'innocent until proven guilty'. In the case of Trump, most or all of the charges against him are being brought past the statute of limitations. This means that he can never be found guilty of them even if he was guilty. If a DA or anyone else in government tries to prosecute for something past the statute of limitations, it is the DA or other government people who are guilty.

What does this mean regarding Trump? It means that in court, if Trump's attorneys remind the DA of the statute of limitations, and the DA doesn't drop the charges, Trump's people can accuse and indict the DA for at least false arrest and false accusation. It's common knowledge.

Trump doesn't want to have to go this route, because he is a peaceful guy. But he's being pushed into it. However, he is starting to fight back a little, with that $500 million suit against Michael Cohen.

Don't take my word for this stuff. I make my mistakes. Do a bit of research.