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legendary
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August 15, 2023, 10:49:47 PM
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Oh, don't worry so much. ....

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Worry??  You think I'm worrying because DT is going to jail?!?  I'm rejoicing that justice is finally is being served, two and a half years after I started this thread.
You are projecting, Bud, just like your beloved leader (of the cult you are a  proud and deluded member of) does.

Even if the unlikely happens and he is found guilty somewhere, he'll just pardon himself after 2024. But he'll be taking the deep state down.

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He may be able to pardon himself in the federal cases.  If he gets elected, and the supreme Court decides a president can pardon himself.

He won't have the authority to pardon himself in the Georgia case though.
legendary
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August 15, 2023, 05:31:52 PM
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Oh, don't worry so much. ....

Cool

Worry??  You think I'm worrying because DT is going to jail?!?  I'm rejoicing that justice is finally is being served, two and a half years after I started this thread.
You are projecting, Bud, just like your beloved leader (of the cult you are a  proud and deluded member of) does.

Even if the unlikely happens and he is found guilty somewhere, he'll just pardon himself after 2024. But he'll be taking the deep state down.

Cool

That is another widespread lie. If Trumps is found guilty, it would be just unheard of a convict to hold the presidency of the US, but in theory it is possible. Curiously, the constitution of the US allows it BUT and this is the BUT:

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Legal experts have pointed to the 14th Amendment as a way to keep Trump from holding office if he is convicted, which includes a “disqualification clause” that bars anyone from holding public office if they “have engaged in insurrection or rebellion” or “given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof.”

So, sorry to break the news to you, but if he is found guilty (I would say when, not if) or promoting an insurrection - which he did very publicly - he would be disqualified from presidency.

However there are other reasons - donors are unlikely to give money to a convict and many Republicans say in the polls that they would not vote for Trump if found guilty.


The thing that you are missing is that the election will be over before Trump gets convicted... if he is convicted. Right now there are legal battles being prepared against the prosecution for interfering with an election process. These preparations will at least stall the court way longer than the close of the 2024 election.

As you say, this kind of thing hasn't happened before... criminally convicting a sitting President. It might take a new Amendment to for the minority to get Trump out. But the majority might see to it that Trump stays IN through the new Amendment.

Besides, the prosecution might simply be fumbling for something to make Trump look bad. Trump could counter indict and totally destroy the court and its officers for messing with the court rules.


Fulton Flip-Flops On 'Fictitious' RICO Document - Now Claims 'Trial Run'



https://www.zerohedge.com/political/georgia-da-about-charge-trump-new-rico-indictment
Now, the Fulton County court clerk's office has issued a new statement, calling it a "sample working document," which was a "mishap," and a "trial run."

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Fulton County court clerk’s office issues statement on the posting of a list of charges against Trump before the grand jury vote, which they yesterday referred to as a “fictitious document”

They describe conducting a “trial run”, stating “the sample working document led to the…

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Which still doesn't explain how it could have been generated and uploaded before the Grand Jury convened to vote on the charges.
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legendary
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August 15, 2023, 04:13:41 PM
......

Oh, don't worry so much. ....

Cool

Worry??  You think I'm worrying because DT is going to jail?!?  I'm rejoicing that justice is finally is being served, two and a half years after I started this thread.
You are projecting, Bud, just like your beloved leader (of the cult you are a  proud and deluded member of) does.

Even if the unlikely happens and he is found guilty somewhere, he'll just pardon himself after 2024. But he'll be taking the deep state down.

Cool

That is another widespread lie. If Trumps is found guilty, it would be just unheard of a convict to hold the presidency of the US, but in theory it is possible. Curiously, the constitution of the US allows it BUT and this is the BUT:

Quote
Legal experts have pointed to the 14th Amendment as a way to keep Trump from holding office if he is convicted, which includes a “disqualification clause” that bars anyone from holding public office if they “have engaged in insurrection or rebellion” or “given aid or comfort to the enemies thereof.”

So, sorry to break the news to you, but if he is found guilty (I would say when, not if) or promoting an insurrection - which he did very publicly - he would be disqualified from presidency.

However there are other reasons - donors are unlikely to give money to a convict and many Republicans say in the polls that they would not vote for Trump if found guilty.

legendary
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August 15, 2023, 01:45:05 PM
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Oh, don't worry so much. ....

Cool

Worry??  You think I'm worrying because DT is going to jail?!?  I'm rejoicing that justice is finally is being served, two and a half years after I started this thread.
You are projecting, Bud, just like your beloved leader (of the cult you are a  proud and deluded member of) does.

Even if the unlikely happens and he is found guilty somewhere, he'll just pardon himself after 2024. But he'll be taking the deep state down.

Cool
legendary
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August 15, 2023, 12:27:57 PM
......

Oh, don't worry so much. ....

Cool

Worry??  You think I'm worrying because DT is going to jail?!?  I'm rejoicing that justice is finally being served, two and a half years after I started this thread.
You are projecting, Bud, just like your beloved leader (of the cult you are a  proud and deluded member of) does.
legendary
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August 15, 2023, 12:02:45 PM
The criminal justice system in America is very different than the one dictated by the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

I wasn't aware that the Constitution and Bill of Rights said election tampering was okay to do.   Roll Eyes
legendary
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August 15, 2023, 11:28:42 AM
Anybody could indict anybody for dropping a gum wrapper in a parking lot.

The criminal justice system in badeckerville is very different from the real world.

The criminal justice system in America is very different than the one dictated by the US Constitution and the Bill of Rights.

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legendary
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August 15, 2023, 07:48:05 AM
Anybody could indict anybody for dropping a gum wrapper in a parking lot.

The criminal justice system in badeckerville is very different from the real world.
legendary
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August 14, 2023, 03:59:30 PM
Is that all you got Bud?
No links to laughable lunacy right wing nut websites?
I swear you stalk me here just to see your name as the last poster on the top threads on this board.
Pathetic.
Your hero and savior is going to jail.
Deal with it.
Maybe pray to your imaginary friend to help him or something.


Oh, don't worry so much. If you study it a solid 2 or 3 hours a day, you'll surely have it figured out by the time the Ukraine war is over.

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legendary
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August 14, 2023, 01:59:47 PM
Is that all you got Bud?
No links to laughable lunacy right wing nut websites?
I swear you stalk me here just to see your name as the last poster on the top threads on this board.
Pathetic.
Your hero and savior is going to jail.
Deal with it.
Maybe pray to your imaginary friend to help him or something.
legendary
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August 14, 2023, 11:25:37 AM
Anybody could indict anybody for dropping a gum wrapper in a parking lot. The indictments against Trump might sound way more important than a gum wrapper, but they really aren't. They are politics, designed to keep him out of the Presidency 2024. Election interference, and they know it.

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legendary
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August 14, 2023, 10:19:01 AM
Looks like the inevitable Georgia indictment #4 is dropping this week.
Here is a really interesting breakdown of the election interference/ fake electors investigation and what has been uncovered.
Complete with videos of the server room break in, texts, etc. This is better than Watergate and way more evidence.
No stone was left unturned. Kudos to Fani Willis and her team for exposing this RICO crime.

https://youtu.be/_mkt7bqulMc
legendary
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August 12, 2023, 01:57:14 PM
..... But this is kinda good, especially if Trump gets back in. ......
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Keep dreaming your deluded dreams Bud. (or "deranged" to use the term Trump likes to repeat so much. He's projecting)
It looks like even right winger Federalist Society lawyers are seeing the light when it comes to Donald Trumps crimes...


Quote from: Michael Popok, Meidas Touch network

When Federalist society right wing constitutional scholars who would vote republican and for Donald Trump come out with a 126 page
law review article law journal analysis to apply to Donald Trump and the disqualifying provision of the fourteenth amendment for participation in an insurrection or
rebellion, you're in in a load of hurt if you're Donald Trump.... And that's just what happened.
Let me make this clear.. this isn't left wing, progressive democrats, constitutional scholars from other side of the aisle of the political spectrum creating an analysis
or scholarship to argue that Donald Trump participated in a rebellion, an insurrection related to Jan 6th and clinging to power and the stopping of the peaceful transfer...
These are two of the most leading Federalist Society scholars out there who.. their entire focus is on the Fourteenth Amendment and the disqualifying provision that
was implemented around the time of the Civil War to stop people who were part of the Civil War and were part of the rebellion against Lincoln and The Republic,
to ever serve in office again, including that of the highest office in the land POTUS. You lose that part of the right wing, judicial, constitutional scholars and you've lost it all.
  And now we've got two of them... Prof. William Baude and  Prof. Mike Stokes Paulson who have joined together in a 126 page law review article to be published
in the University of Pennsylvania law review journal in which they argue not only does the 14th Amendment apply to the president or former POTUS, but there is
no doubt in their mind under the original interpretation of the US Constitution Donald Trump is an insurrectionist and participated in a rebellion and
therefore should never hold office again....

https://youtu.be/V5yptTPa7sg

Talk is easy. But proof is difficult. If proof was easy in Trump's case, he would have gone down long ago.

Want to see the evidence that proof is difficult? Take a look here: 'On The Verge Of The Abyss' - No US Presidential Election In 2024? - https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/on-the-verge-of-the-abyss-no-us-presidential-election-in-2024-5463053. If you can't see the evidence that proof against Trump is difficult, let me know, and I'll explain it to you.


Corrupt Obama Judge Overseeing Trump Case Caught in Massive Scandal!



https://patriotclash.com/corrupt-obama-judge-overseeing-trump-case-caught-in-massive-scandal/
Judge Tanya Chutkan was appointed by former President Barack Obama in 2014 to serve as a US District Judge. Prior to her appointment, she had an extensive legal career, including working as an attorney and later becoming a partner at Boies Schiller & Flexner LLP (BSF). Interestingly, during her time at BSF, she overlapped with Hunter Biden, the son of President Joe Biden, who also served as an attorney at the firm from 2009 to 2014.

Allegations of Bias in Judge Chutkan's Rulings

Conservatives have expressed concerns about Judge Chutkan's impartiality based on her previous rulings, particularly those related to the January 6th incident at the Capitol. Critics argue that her rulings have shown a severe bias towards individuals arrested for their involvement in the event. This has led to doubts about whether she can provide a fair trial for former President Trump in the ongoing case.
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legendary
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August 12, 2023, 01:42:51 PM
..... But this is kinda good, especially if Trump gets back in. ......
Cool

Keep dreaming your deluded dreams Bud. (or "deranged" to use the term Trump likes to repeat so much. He's projecting)
It looks like even right winger Federalist Society lawyers are seeing the light when it comes to Donald Trumps crimes...


Quote from: Michael Popok, Meidas Touch network

When Federalist society right wing constitutional scholars who would vote republican and for Donald Trump come out with a 126 page
law review article law journal analysis to apply to Donald Trump and the disqualifying provision of the fourteenth amendment for participation in an insurrection or
rebellion, you're in in a load of hurt if you're Donald Trump.... And that's just what happened.
Let me make this clear.. this isn't left wing, progressive democrats, constitutional scholars from other side of the aisle of the political spectrum creating an analysis
or scholarship to argue that Donald Trump participated in a rebellion, an insurrection related to Jan 6th and clinging to power and the stopping of the peaceful transfer...
These are two of the most leading Federalist Society scholars out there who.. their entire focus is on the Fourteenth Amendment and the disqualifying provision that
was implemented around the time of the Civil War to stop people who were part of the Civil War and were part of the rebellion against Lincoln and The Republic,
to ever serve in office again, including that of the highest office in the land POTUS. You lose that part of the right wing, judicial, constitutional scholars and you've lost it all.
  And now we've got two of them... Prof. William Baude and  Prof. Mike Stokes Paulson who have joined together in a 126 page law review article to be published
in the University of Pennsylvania law review journal in which they argue not only does the 14th Amendment apply to the president or former POTUS, but there is
no doubt in their mind under the original interpretation of the US Constitution Donald Trump is an insurrectionist and participated in a rebellion and
therefore should never hold office again....

https://youtu.be/V5yptTPa7sg
legendary
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August 12, 2023, 01:27:39 PM
Everyday Trump gets stronger with the people. And its the Deep State that is making him strong by stupid and useless accusations. The only question left is, if the Deep State causes an election steal in 2024 like they did in 2020, will the people do something about it this time?


Trump Coming Back Is Already Spooking Western Elites



https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/trump-coming-back-already-spooking-western-elites
Should western elites and even NATO itself be afraid of Donald Trump returning to the White House in 2024? It's an entirely valid question given that the elites' own 'news' website in Brussels – Politico – penned a piece recently which argued not only should they be bothered, but they should also prepare themselves for it right now.

Trump's return as U.S. president is looking more and more inevitable by the day, driven by the nefarious meddling of the Biden administration and its determination to put him into jail, where they, erroneously, think his bid for the White House ends.

Even the most obscure French MP which Politico wheeled out to endorse its article accepts this, so what would 2024 look like with Trump back in the Oval Office for Europeans?
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Yes.  Any country or alliance that values democracy should be concerned about Trump winning the 2024 election.  This is just common sense.

Countries like Russia, North Korea and China, on the other hand, should be concerned about Biden winning the 2024 election.

The thing that Biden shows best is that Democracy is only a more complex form of Group Dictatorship. But this is kinda good, especially if Trump gets back in. Why? Because the American people were getting too lax in life.

Biden stirred things up for Americans. He made them start to think again, even though such wasn't part of his agenda. People are realizing that governments are simply ploys to farm them. And, because of the many average people who have studied the Constitution and what it is all about, the people are beginning to see exactly how much they are benefited by having small government.

Part of the point is, no matter who gets into US government, Federal government will downsize. The States will become the greater authority. So, even a Trump win in 2024, isn't going to do the same as it would have, had he won in 2020. The people will start to bring government home to themselves.

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August 12, 2023, 12:23:49 PM
Everyday Trump gets stronger with the people. And its the Deep State that is making him strong by stupid and useless accusations. The only question left is, if the Deep State causes an election steal in 2024 like they did in 2020, will the people do something about it this time?


Trump Coming Back Is Already Spooking Western Elites



https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/trump-coming-back-already-spooking-western-elites
Should western elites and even NATO itself be afraid of Donald Trump returning to the White House in 2024? It's an entirely valid question given that the elites' own 'news' website in Brussels – Politico – penned a piece recently which argued not only should they be bothered, but they should also prepare themselves for it right now.

Trump's return as U.S. president is looking more and more inevitable by the day, driven by the nefarious meddling of the Biden administration and its determination to put him into jail, where they, erroneously, think his bid for the White House ends.

Even the most obscure French MP which Politico wheeled out to endorse its article accepts this, so what would 2024 look like with Trump back in the Oval Office for Europeans?
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Cool


Yes.  Any country or alliance that values democracy should be concerned about Trump winning the 2024 election.  This is just common sense.

Countries like Russia, North Korea and China, on the other hand, should be concerned about Biden winning the 2024 election.
legendary
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August 12, 2023, 11:50:54 AM
Everyday Trump gets stronger with the people. And its the Deep State that is making him strong by stupid and useless accusations. The only question left is, if the Deep State causes an election steal in 2024 like they did in 2020, will the people do something about it this time?


Trump Coming Back Is Already Spooking Western Elites



https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/trump-coming-back-already-spooking-western-elites
Should western elites and even NATO itself be afraid of Donald Trump returning to the White House in 2024? It's an entirely valid question given that the elites' own 'news' website in Brussels – Politico – penned a piece recently which argued not only should they be bothered, but they should also prepare themselves for it right now.

Trump's return as U.S. president is looking more and more inevitable by the day, driven by the nefarious meddling of the Biden administration and its determination to put him into jail, where they, erroneously, think his bid for the White House ends.

Even the most obscure French MP which Politico wheeled out to endorse its article accepts this, so what would 2024 look like with Trump back in the Oval Office for Europeans?
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legendary
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August 11, 2023, 10:32:12 PM
Haven't seen badecker get this emotional before.  The indictments seem to be getting to him.

He's like my favorite wind up toy.

...... what else is there to talk about?

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I'm sure you will think of something Bud ...and start another ultra intriguing, uber intelligent thread about it.

And to get back on topic....
Upcoming Georgia indictment, looks like Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis is gonna have a problem
squeezing in her indictment date because looks like Donny has a very busy schedule to wit....

https://www.politico.com/interactives/2023/trump-criminal-investigations-cases-tracker-list/
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/what-are-the-legal-cases-against-donald-trump.html

Oh yeah, and don't forget about this one... Not many folks are aware of this scammy ass fraud that grifter Trump orchestrated and now he is getting sued...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t5z3g_gjqH
legendary
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August 11, 2023, 03:20:34 PM
Trump got himself into trouble when he agreed to let the attorneys and the judge make the decisions of the court. Because of this, it just might be exactly as this judge says.


As Hearing Begins, Evidence Of Bias Mounts Against DC Judge



https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trumps-dc-judge-evidence-bias
Update (1030ET): With regard to bias we thought the following comments from the hearing this morning may also elucidate some of Judge Chutkan's views...

    "Mr Trump, like every American, has a First Amendment right to free speech. But that right is not absolute."

    "A defendant's free speech is subject to conditions," Chutkan adds, noting that such speech must "yield to the orderly administration of justice."

We don't think that's how it works judge...
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legendary
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August 11, 2023, 05:25:43 AM
By the way, has anyone one of you taken a look at the fake electors scheme lately?
Yesterday, I heard a phone interview of one of the people charged with trying to pose as a fake elector for the State of Michigan (I think that was the state).

She said that literally was invited to a Republican meeting and make her sign on a paper as a delegate, however she alledges that later someone took her signature and used it on a fake electoral document so she could have her fake vote to Donald Trump, replacing Biden's victory in the State.

She is a woman in her 70s, it would be terrifying to even consider one could spend the rest of ones natural life in prison because a stolen signature (assuming she is not lying, tho)
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