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Topic: WINGS ★ Where DAO Unicorns Are Born! ★ Token launched! - page 366. (Read 522763 times)

sr. member
Activity: 398
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Quote from: MFahad
Disclaimer: I was not aware of the stupid allocation rules when investing. In fact, I actually didn't want to invest with BTC but with ETH, but then there was some stupid exclusive bonus for BTC investors. MISLEADING!

Example:
1 BTC investment (=$908) gives me 33,322 Wings
867.7 ETC investment (=$908) gives me 247,326 Wings

That's more than 7 times more WINGS for the same amount of dollars in value!


You may get 7 times more WINGS if you invest in ETC now... but remember that the final calculations will rely on current total funds collected. Estimations will change as new funds are received. See terms & conditions for further details.


That's a freake'n scandal.......Why won't you give us a statement on the subject??
This is not the way to go with your first investors.
sr. member
Activity: 350
Merit: 250
Quote from: MFahad
Disclaimer: I was not aware of the stupid allocation rules when investing. In fact, I actually didn't want to invest with BTC but with ETH, but then there was some stupid exclusive bonus for BTC investors. MISLEADING!

Example:
1 BTC investment (=$908) gives me 33,322 Wings
867.7 ETC investment (=$908) gives me 247,326 Wings

That's more than 7 times more WINGS for the same amount of dollars in value!


You may get 7 times more WINGS if you invest in ETC now... but remember that the final calculations will rely on current total funds collected. Estimations will change as new funds are received. See terms & conditions for further details.
hero member
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hero member
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The issue with most ICO investors is that most of them don't read the terms of the contract, they will just invest blind and some don't even understand what Wings DAO is set up to do and just deceided to follow the crowd
legendary
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People forgot to read the bonus +10% which is offering by investment with bitcoin. That is confusing part for so many people after making the invest with altcoins they are now crying to looking over the amount which they will get probably.
hero member
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Thanks for the calculator, but this is HORRIBLE. I can get more than 7 times more Wings with ETC than with BTC. Now I feel like I wasted my 5 BTC on this crowdfund (I could've spent 7 times less using some shitcoin and get the same amount of WINGS!). So don't give me this BS trying to justify this. This whole cryptocurrency allocation thing is a big FAIL and you know it.  I get that you guys were expecting some sort of equilibrium, but it is not going to happen (ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAVE A VERY MISLEADING ***EXCLUSIVE*** BONUS FOR BTC INVESTMENTS)! Please change the design and just allocate Wings based on $ value invested, otherwise this is a big FAIL and I have wasted 5 BTC. I feel really pissed off.

Disclaimer: I was not aware of the stupid allocation rules when investing. In fact, I actually didn't want to invest with BTC but with ETH, but then there was some stupid exclusive bonus for BTC investors. MISLEADING!

Example:
1 BTC investment (=$908) gives me 33,322 Wings
867.7 ETC investment (=$908) gives me 247,326 Wings

That's more than 7 times more WINGS for the same amount of dollars in value!

Of course I know that it wasn't your intention to get a situation like this. But this situation is reality now and you have to agree that it is massively unfair! I suggest to fix this poor ICO design, because this is just wrong. Please change WINGS allocation based on $ value invested, it is the only way to fix this big mess.

EDIT:
Thanks guys, now I felt like I had to invest 1 BTC worth of ETC to increase my WINGS/$ invested ratio, just so that I feel scammed just a little bit less.

WTF?Huh? I also invested almost 3 BTC in this. This situation is completely fucked up.  Why do they only now choose to put the calculator on their ICO site and not before???  They clearly misled us with the 30% initial bonus.   I would understand if there is a minor imbalance, but by 7X?  This is completely unacceptable!!

WINGS.AI.  HOW THE HELL DO YOU EXPECT PEOPLE TO CONTINUE INVESTING IF YOU HAVE ALREADY PROVEN YOURSELF UNTRUSTWORTHY!!! PLEASE RECTIFY THIS IMBALANCE  BY ALLOCATING THE AMOUNT OF WINGS TO EACH COIN PROPORTIONAL TO THE AMOUNT INVESTED AT THE END OF THE ICO.   AS OTHERS HERE ARE DEMANDING, PLEASE RESPOND AS TO HOW YOU WILL CORRECT THIS IMBALANCE.  

YOU DO REALIZE THAT MANY PEOPLE ARE WAITING ON THE SIDELINES TO INVEST BASED ON HOW THIS ICO UNFOLDS?  IF YOU PLAN TO SCREW OVER THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT TRUSTED YOU WITH THE ALLOCATION, THEN HOW DO YOU EXPECT FUTURE INVESTORS TO TRUST YOU??   PLEASE DO WHAT'S RIGHT AND PROVE THAT YOU ARE TRUSTWORTHY.  OTHERWISE, PLEASE REFUND MY BTC.

I would like to see an honest, official reaction by Wings team regarding this subject. It is clearly needed, silence does not reflect well on them.

1) Do they think they messed up this part of the ICO design?
2) Will they do anything about this unfair, misleading treatment of investors? Or will they keep the rules as is?

I guess in some ways, this misleading behaviour benefits them. For example, I made an additional FOMO investment in ETC to increase my Wings/$ invested average. More people who initially invested BTC might make additional altcoin FOMO investments to achieve the same. If that was the plan, then it is quite scammy. If the team had honest intentions, but didn't foresee the imbalance, then I can accept it, but I would like to know if they can rectify it somehow.

Of course, maybe the problem will fix itself if many people will invest shitcoins now. Let's see.

Thanks
newbie
Activity: 15
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Thanks for the calculator, but this is HORRIBLE. I can get more than 7 times more Wings with ETC than with BTC. Now I feel like I wasted my 5 BTC on this crowdfund (I could've spent 7 times less using some shitcoin and get the same amount of WINGS!). So don't give me this BS trying to justify this. This whole cryptocurrency allocation thing is a big FAIL and you know it.  I get that you guys were expecting some sort of equilibrium, but it is not going to happen (ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAVE A VERY MISLEADING ***EXCLUSIVE*** BONUS FOR BTC INVESTMENTS)! Please change the design and just allocate Wings based on $ value invested, otherwise this is a big FAIL and I have wasted 5 BTC. I feel really pissed off.

Disclaimer: I was not aware of the stupid allocation rules when investing. In fact, I actually didn't want to invest with BTC but with ETH, but then there was some stupid exclusive bonus for BTC investors. MISLEADING!

Example:
1 BTC investment (=$908) gives me 33,322 Wings
867.7 ETC investment (=$908) gives me 247,326 Wings

That's more than 7 times more WINGS for the same amount of dollars in value!

Of course I know that it wasn't your intention to get a situation like this. But this situation is reality now and you have to agree that it is massively unfair! I suggest to fix this poor ICO design, because this is just wrong. Please change WINGS allocation based on $ value invested, it is the only way to fix this big mess.

EDIT:
Thanks guys, now I felt like I had to invest 1 BTC worth of ETC to increase my WINGS/$ invested ratio, just so that I feel scammed just a little bit less.

WTF?Huh? I also invested almost 3 BTC in this. This situation is completely fucked up.  Why do they only now choose to put the calculator on their ICO site and not before???  They clearly misled us with the 30% initial bonus.   I would understand if there is a minor imbalance, but by 7X?  This is completely unacceptable!!

WINGS.AI.  HOW THE HELL DO YOU EXPECT PEOPLE TO CONTINUE INVESTING IF YOU HAVE ALREADY PROVEN YOURSELF UNTRUSTWORTHY!!! PLEASE RECTIFY THIS IMBALANCE  BY ALLOCATING THE AMOUNT OF WINGS TO EACH COIN PROPORTIONAL TO THE AMOUNT INVESTED AT THE END OF THE ICO.   AS OTHERS HERE ARE DEMANDING, PLEASE RESPOND AS TO HOW YOU WILL CORRECT THIS IMBALANCE.  

YOU DO REALIZE THAT MANY PEOPLE ARE WAITING ON THE SIDELINES TO INVEST BASED ON HOW THIS ICO UNFOLDS?  IF YOU PLAN TO SCREW OVER THE ONLY PEOPLE THAT TRUSTED YOU WITH THE ALLOCATION, THEN HOW DO YOU EXPECT FUTURE INVESTORS TO TRUST YOU??   PLEASE DO WHAT'S RIGHT AND PROVE THAT YOU ARE TRUSTWORTHY.  OTHERWISE, PLEASE REFUND MY BTC.
sr. member
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It makes sense, the more people donated to btc slice of the pie, then they get less because of split among btc donors...even the pie for btc is much bigger than etc and xrp (btc had the bigger bonus/portion, so that isn't fair for xrp, etc holders if you want to think it like that). Not much donated in xrp and etc, so that slice of the pie will yield more. If you want, go donate some xrp and etc.


btc 70% slice of the pie is super huge compare to xrp and etc. All is fair. Everyone should read before throwing funds then complain and whine.

Yes, some people didn't read the terms carefully and yelling scam and unfair, it is my first time to see such a structure of donation/ico, but it will teach us, read the rules&terms carefully in the future.

You are absolutely right.  The BTC "donators" are not the only ones that will get scammed, but everyone will.  Remember, that the terms lay out that you are giving away your money to them with no obligation on their part to do absolutely anything.

The early original BTC bonus on their part was very misleading to the BTC donators and they did not make the calculator public until now.  Don't think they did not know that this would happen.  They've now done this on purpose to get the BTC donators to contribute more in alt coins in order to level out their losses.  

The more I see these ICO scams, the more I am utterly horrified at how much these scumbags are taking advantage of people.  The tokens haven't been launched and they've already screwed over people.  What an absolute shame and they won't even comment or respond on how they intend to make this fair for everyone.   


 
sr. member
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It makes sense, the more people donated to btc slice of the pie, then they get less because of split among btc donors...even the pie for btc is much bigger than etc and xrp (btc had the bigger bonus/portion, so that isn't fair for xrp, etc holders if you want to think it like that). Not much donated in xrp and etc, so that slice of the pie will yield more. If you want, go donate some xrp and etc.


btc 70% slice of the pie is super huge compare to xrp and etc. All is fair. Everyone should read before throwing funds then complain and whine.

Yes, some people didn't read the terms carefully and yelling scam and unfair, it is my first time to see such a structure of donation/ico, but it will teach us, read the rules&terms carefully in the future.
sr. member
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I still curious with the wings calculator, why Investing in ETC has a Huge distance Than in Btc with 30%bonuse while The Bitcoin Value keep raising

anyone can help this just with easy words?

it's because each coin has a distinct allocation btc gets 70% of the 75 million wings, ETH get 15%, and so on.

https://blog.wings.ai/get-ready-wings-dao-details-revealed-d8baaa33a33#.yahwmkk3d




This makes perfect sense. All fair from the start. Thank you.

I don't think this make sense, it must be error of such why would they give priority to some tokens more than other.
sr. member
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Hey Wings team, will you provide a tool to see that we have the correct Seed before you distribute the coins??

I believe that is essential, and was well execute at Lisk.

Keep with the good work

I totally agree
Its not something that requires to much but will save a lot of heart ache later
hero member
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Season’s Greetings & Good Tidings from WINGS Foundation: WINGS Foundation has received a Google Ad Grants award

https://blog.wings.ai/seasons-greetings-good-tidings-from-wings-foundation-a41aee75de8b

legendary
Activity: 1666
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he who has the gold makes the rules
I still curious with the wings calculator, why Investing in ETC has a Huge distance Than in Btc with 30%bonuse while The Bitcoin Value keep raising

anyone can help this just with easy words?

it's because each coin has a distinct allocation btc gets 70% of the 75 million wings, ETH get 15%, and so on.

https://blog.wings.ai/get-ready-wings-dao-details-revealed-d8baaa33a33#.yahwmkk3d

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I still curious with the wings calculator, why Investing in ETC has a Huge distance Than in Btc with 30%bonuse while The Bitcoin Value keep raising

anyone can help this just with easy words?
sr. member
Activity: 282
Merit: 250
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Hey Wings team, will you provide a tool to see that we have the correct Seed before you distribute the coins??

I believe that is essential, and was well execute at Lisk.

Keep with the good work
newbie
Activity: 23
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I am trying to invest with some xrp but it keeps saying my xrp address is invalid  Huh  Can anyone help me?
sr. member
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The terms say alreadym each coin has different proportion of total supply in ico, so this is impossible to be same, bitcoin is the most popular to invest, that is why it gets only 1/7 of etc, etc lacks of fund
hero member
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Thanks for the calculator, but this is HORRIBLE. I can get more than 7 times more Wings with ETC than with BTC. Now I feel like I wasted my 5 BTC on this crowdfund (I could've spent 7 times less using some shitcoin and get the same amount of WINGS!). So don't give me this BS trying to justify this. This whole cryptocurrency allocation thing is a big FAIL and you know it.  I get that you guys were expecting some sort of equilibrium, but it is not going to happen (ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAVE A VERY MISLEADING ***EXCLUSIVE*** BONUS FOR BTC INVESTMENTS)! Please change the design and just allocate Wings based on $ value invested, otherwise this is a big FAIL and I have wasted 5 BTC. I feel really pissed off.

Disclaimer: I was not aware of the stupid allocation rules when investing. In fact, I actually didn't want to invest with BTC but with ETH, but then there was some stupid exclusive bonus for BTC investors. MISLEADING!

Example:
1 BTC investment (=$908) gives me 33,322 Wings
867.7 ETC investment (=$908) gives me 247,326 Wings

That's more than 7 times more WINGS for the same amount of dollars in value!

Of course I know that it wasn't your intention to get a situation like this. But this situation is reality now and you have to agree that it is massively unfair! I suggest to fix this poor ICO design, because this is just wrong. Please change WINGS allocation based on $ value invested, it is the only way to fix this big mess.

EDIT:
Thanks guys, now I felt like I had to invest 1 BTC worth of ETC to increase my WINGS/$ invested ratio, just so that I feel scammed just a little bit less.

WOW! Getting 7 times more returns by investing ETC is pretty good for those people who have invested with ETC. I have invested early by using bitcoin too. So, I missed it out. Not planning to make any more additional investments.


However, the team should look into this matter and comment their intention.
I don't think they did this with an intention to scam anyone.

legendary
Activity: 1666
Merit: 1010
he who has the gold makes the rules
Thanks for the calculator, but this is HORRIBLE. I can get more than 7 times more Wings with ETC than with BTC. Now I feel like I wasted my 5 BTC on this crowdfund (I could've spent 7 times less using some shitcoin and get the same amount of WINGS!). So don't give me this BS trying to justify this. This whole cryptocurrency allocation thing is a big FAIL and you know it.  I get that you guys were expecting some sort of equilibrium, but it is not going to happen (ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAVE A VERY MISLEADING ***EXCLUSIVE*** BONUS FOR BTC INVESTMENTS)! Please change the design and just allocate Wings based on $ value invested, otherwise this is a big FAIL and I have wasted 5 BTC. I feel really pissed off.

Disclaimer: I was not aware of the stupid allocation rules when investing. In fact, I actually didn't want to invest with BTC but with ETH, but then there was some stupid exclusive bonus for BTC investors. MISLEADING!

Example:
1 BTC investment (=$908) gives me 33,322 Wings
867.7 ETC investment (=$908) gives me 247,326 Wings

That's more than 7 times more WINGS for the same amount of dollars in value!

Of course I know that it wasn't your intention to get a situation like this. But this situation is reality now and you have to agree that it is massively unfair! I suggest to fix this poor ICO design, because this is just wrong. Please change WINGS allocation based on $ value invested, it is the only way to fix this big mess.

EDIT:
Thanks guys, now I felt like I had to invest 1 BTC worth of ETC to increase my WINGS/$ invested ratio, just so that I feel scammed just a little bit less.

WOW! Getting 7 times more returns by investing ETC is pretty good for those people who have invested with ETC. I have invested early by using bitcoin too. So, I missed it out. Not planning to make any more additional investments.

Do not worry, in the end all be leveled. All will start to invest more in altcoins.

Why do you think so? This info was not common knowledge at the start. The people who wanted to invest already did. Do you think people that were not interested from the start will invest, because they intensely follow the thread in a coin not worthy of their investment? Maybe the btc investors will make an additional investment with alt coins to make up on their loss. But that is like blackmailing the btc investors.

fact is that there were  5 separate ico's which do not have a relation whith each other. This should have been communicated better.

a lot of people wait until the end b/c they dont know what the price of BTC or some alt is.


sr. member
Activity: 427
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Thanks for the calculator, but this is HORRIBLE. I can get more than 7 times more Wings with ETC than with BTC. Now I feel like I wasted my 5 BTC on this crowdfund (I could've spent 7 times less using some shitcoin and get the same amount of WINGS!). So don't give me this BS trying to justify this. This whole cryptocurrency allocation thing is a big FAIL and you know it.  I get that you guys were expecting some sort of equilibrium, but it is not going to happen (ESPECIALLY IF YOU HAVE A VERY MISLEADING ***EXCLUSIVE*** BONUS FOR BTC INVESTMENTS)! Please change the design and just allocate Wings based on $ value invested, otherwise this is a big FAIL and I have wasted 5 BTC. I feel really pissed off.

Disclaimer: I was not aware of the stupid allocation rules when investing. In fact, I actually didn't want to invest with BTC but with ETH, but then there was some stupid exclusive bonus for BTC investors. MISLEADING!

Example:
1 BTC investment (=$908) gives me 33,322 Wings
867.7 ETC investment (=$908) gives me 247,326 Wings

That's more than 7 times more WINGS for the same amount of dollars in value!

Of course I know that it wasn't your intention to get a situation like this. But this situation is reality now and you have to agree that it is massively unfair! I suggest to fix this poor ICO design, because this is just wrong. Please change WINGS allocation based on $ value invested, it is the only way to fix this big mess.

EDIT:
Thanks guys, now I felt like I had to invest 1 BTC worth of ETC to increase my WINGS/$ invested ratio, just so that I feel scammed just a little bit less.

WOW! Getting 7 times more returns by investing ETC is pretty good for those people who have invested with ETC. I have invested early by using bitcoin too. So, I missed it out. Not planning to make any more additional investments.

Do not worry, in the end all be leveled. All will start to invest more in altcoins.

Why do you think so? This info was not common knowledge at the start. The people who wanted to invest already did. Do you think people that were not interested from the start will invest, because they intensely follow the thread in a coin not worthy of their investment? Maybe the btc investors will make an additional investment with alt coins to make up on their loss. But that is like blackmailing the btc investors.

fact is that there were  5 separate ico's which do not have a relation whith each other. This should have been communicated better.
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