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I thank God that I am not alone on this topic. Wiwo I smile!!! I am not a chronic/addicted gambler but I know very well that gambling is beyond money and fun and it is only a real gamblers understand what I mean. I have seen and I have heard things about gambling so when we talked about gambling, it is very deep.
But more also I understand your point because sometime when someone is addicted it can lead the person into doing so many things that their ordinarily will not do and some time their can go over board just to satisfy their greed.
You have just said it all. Not that fun and winning of money is exempted but addicted gamblers take gambling to another dimension which they themselves too don't even know themselves again. They do everything to satisfy themselves in the process of gambling.
Addicted gambling alone isn't beyond fun and money, even the common gambler spending few dollars focus on winning little money. Just because they were able to win little money they come back and spend, if not the gambling platforms used to be really down. In my understanding gambling is considered as choice for fun and this could be something around 10% which means without money gambling isn't effective.
Funny how this discussion is becoming interesting by the days,  and it now evident that we can't separate gambling vs money or fun because this are the both tools that have lead to most cases of gambling addictions after all, it is either the gamblers became addicted trying to win some money or chasing an already closed money,  and this has been what has resulted into multiple cases of gambling addictions.

But meanwhile, the exhibition of attributes of the addict is what differs from person to person and most times it depends on I individual physiological makeup that determines the nature and the extent to which addictions could push them into doing negative things,  such as the one mentioned by Agbe I his earlier comment where gamblers staked his wife,  but Agbe failed to tell us whether the gambler won the bet or lost his wife along the line Grin

Let's wait and see if Agbe can supply us with the remaining part of the story because I am curious to know the aftermath of the whole drama.
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I thank God that I am not alone on this topic. Wiwo I smile!!! I am not a chronic/addicted gambler but I know very well that gambling is beyond money and fun and it is only a real gamblers understand what I mean. I have seen and I have heard things about gambling so when we talked about gambling, it is very deep.
But more also I understand your point because sometime when someone is addicted it can lead the person into doing so many things that their ordinarily will not do and some time their can go over board just to satisfy their greed.
You have just said it all. Not that fun and winning of money is exempted but addicted gamblers take gambling to another dimension which they themselves too don't even know themselves again. They do everything to satisfy themselves in the process of gambling.
Addicted gambling alone isn't beyond fun and money, even the common gambler spending few dollars focus on winning little money. Just because they were able to win little money they come back and spend, if not the gambling platforms used to be really down. In my understanding gambling is considered as choice for fun and this could be something around 10% which means without money gambling isn't effective.
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I thank God that I am not alone on this topic. Wiwo I smile!!! I am not a chronic/addicted gambler but I know very well that gambling is beyond money and fun and it is only a real gamblers understand what I mean. I have seen and I have heard things about gambling so when we talked about gambling, it is very deep.
But more also I understand your point because sometime when someone is addicted it can lead the person into doing so many things that their ordinarily will not do and some time their can go over board just to satisfy their greed.
You have just said it all. Not that fun and winning of money is exempted but addicted gamblers take gambling to another dimension which they themselves too don't even know themselves again. They do everything to satisfy themselves in the process of gambling.
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I thank God that I am not alone on this topic. Wiwo I smile!!! I am not a chronic/addicted gambler but I know very well that gambling is beyond money and fun and it is only a real gamblers understand what I mean. I have seen and I have heard things about gambling so when we talked about gambling, it is very deep.
The ultimate question new is,  if gambling is sometime beyond fun or money what then is gambling really all about, because the essence of gambling to many of us is to catch some fun and at the same time win some money through our activities and predictions in the casino.

But more also I understand your point because sometime when someone is addicted it can lead the person into doing so many things that their ordinarily will not do and some time their can go over board just to satisfy their greed.
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Really, gambling is not only for money. Gambling can be done in different ways just exchange of goods in those days. You could exchange goods to goods in the 80s. So gambling can be done through material things. I have heard that someone has gambled his wife out to his opponent. Some even gamble with their houses. When addicted gambler is planning to win back his lost, enh. He uses everything has to gamble. And go home with empty handed. But the most important of them all is money because with money you can acquire many things. Therefore, gambling with money or without money is still gambling.
I mean, who needs money when you've got, I dunno, chickens to bet? Sounds wild, but hey, I've also heard legends of dudes betting their socks, pets, and, well, even weirder things.

And about someone gambling their wife? Dude, that's messed up. Makes you think, right? Like, what were they even thinking? It's wild, like, SUPER wild. People get so lost in the game they forget stuff. But money's king, ain't it? Cash is the ultimate thingy majig because it gets you other thingies. So yeah, gamble with whatever, it’s still a risky ride down the wacky lane of chance
I agree with you is a crazy shit to gamble away your wife and that sound so sarcastic right?

Because I can ramp my head around how someone will use a human to gambles is it as a collateral or the wife will rightly becomes the other man in the end who won the game?

I don't get it,  I know of gamblers who stake their cars or houses but I haven't heard any of them such as staking a wife or child I wonder what the agreement for that will look like,  what becomes the morals behind the whole thing because there is no way the wife can be converted to physical cash to settle the bet.
Sounds impossible? Then read this.

Man bets his WIFE after running out of money while gambling before allowing a friend and a relative to gang-rape her when he loses his stake in India
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and this one
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xvobss

This might sound absurd or unbelievable but human beings or men had already come into a point on which they have able to bet their wives which is bullshit.
When it comes to gambling addiction and coming into a point on which you are doing this then you do need to go to check up yourself on a gambling addiction specialist.
You have already lost your mind or being that crazy on coming into this point.
I thank God that I am not alone on this topic. Wiwo I smile!!! I am not a chronic/addicted gambler but I know very well that gambling is beyond money and fun and it is only a real gamblers understand what I mean. I have seen and I have heard things about gambling so when we talked about gambling, it is very deep.
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Really, gambling is not only for money. Gambling can be done in different ways just exchange of goods in those days. You could exchange goods to goods in the 80s. So gambling can be done through material things. I have heard that someone has gambled his wife out to his opponent. Some even gamble with their houses. When addicted gambler is planning to win back his lost, enh. He uses everything has to gamble. And go home with empty handed. But the most important of them all is money because with money you can acquire many things. Therefore, gambling with money or without money is still gambling.
I mean, who needs money when you've got, I dunno, chickens to bet? Sounds wild, but hey, I've also heard legends of dudes betting their socks, pets, and, well, even weirder things.

And about someone gambling their wife? Dude, that's messed up. Makes you think, right? Like, what were they even thinking? It's wild, like, SUPER wild. People get so lost in the game they forget stuff. But money's king, ain't it? Cash is the ultimate thingy majig because it gets you other thingies. So yeah, gamble with whatever, it’s still a risky ride down the wacky lane of chance
I agree with you is a crazy shit to gamble away your wife and that sound so sarcastic right?

Because I can ramp my head around how someone will use a human to gambles is it as a collateral or the wife will rightly becomes the other man in the end who won the game?

I don't get it,  I know of gamblers who stake their cars or houses but I haven't heard any of them such as staking a wife or child I wonder what the agreement for that will look like,  what becomes the morals behind the whole thing because there is no way the wife can be converted to physical cash to settle the bet.
Sounds impossible? Then read this.

Man bets his WIFE after running out of money while gambling before allowing a friend and a relative to gang-rape her when he loses his stake in India
Source
and this one
https://www.dailymotion.com/video/xvobss

This might sound absurd or unbelievable but human beings or men had already come into a point on which they have able to bet their wives which is bullshit.
When it comes to gambling addiction and coming into a point on which you are doing this then you do need to go to check up yourself on a gambling addiction specialist.
You have already lost your mind or being that crazy on coming into this point.
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Really, gambling is not only for money. Gambling can be done in different ways just exchange of goods in those days. You could exchange goods to goods in the 80s. So gambling can be done through material things. I have heard that someone has gambled his wife out to his opponent. Some even gamble with their houses. When addicted gambler is planning to win back his lost, enh. He uses everything has to gamble. And go home with empty handed. But the most important of them all is money because with money you can acquire many things. Therefore, gambling with money or without money is still gambling.
I mean, who needs money when you've got, I dunno, chickens to bet? Sounds wild, but hey, I've also heard legends of dudes betting their socks, pets, and, well, even weirder things.

And about someone gambling their wife? Dude, that's messed up. Makes you think, right? Like, what were they even thinking? It's wild, like, SUPER wild. People get so lost in the game they forget stuff. But money's king, ain't it? Cash is the ultimate thingy majig because it gets you other thingies. So yeah, gamble with whatever, it’s still a risky ride down the wacky lane of chance
I agree with you is a crazy shit to gamble away your wife and that sound so sarcastic right?

Because I can ramp my head around how someone will use a human to gambles is it as a collateral or the wife will rightly becomes the other man in the end who won the game?

I don't get it,  I know of gamblers who stake their cars or houses but I haven't heard any of them such as staking a wife or child I wonder what the agreement for that will look like,  what becomes the morals behind the whole thing because there is no way the wife can be converted to physical cash to settle the bet.
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And about someone gambling their wife? Dude, that's messed up. Makes you think, right? Like, what were they even thinking? It's wild, like, SUPER wild. People get so lost in the game they forget stuff. But money's king, ain't it? Cash is the ultimate thingy majig because it gets you other thingies. So yeah, gamble with whatever, it’s still a risky ride down the wacky lane of chance
it's like you are not a real gambler. I believe you are a partial gambler. Real gamblers will tell you what gambling is all about. Gambling is beyond using of money. You should not be surprised that a gambler had used his wife for gambling. In the Corona Virus year, a lady in my country, used her child to exchange food for survival. It is only those who in the real gambling games understand what I mean. Money gambling is just for pleasure. But their is a Gambling beyond pleasure and fun gambling and that is Gambling for Survival..
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Really, gambling is not only for money. Gambling can be done in different ways just exchange of goods in those days. You could exchange goods to goods in the 80s. So gambling can be done through material things. I have heard that someone has gambled his wife out to his opponent. Some even gamble with their houses. When addicted gambler is planning to win back his lost, enh. He uses everything has to gamble. And go home with empty handed. But the most important of them all is money because with money you can acquire many things. Therefore, gambling with money or without money is still gambling.
I mean, who needs money when you've got, I dunno, chickens to bet? Sounds wild, but hey, I've also heard legends of dudes betting their socks, pets, and, well, even weirder things.

And about someone gambling their wife? Dude, that's messed up. Makes you think, right? Like, what were they even thinking? It's wild, like, SUPER wild. People get so lost in the game they forget stuff. But money's king, ain't it? Cash is the ultimate thingy majig because it gets you other thingies. So yeah, gamble with whatever, it’s still a risky ride down the wacky lane of chance
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Gambling without money or anything at stake is not gambling, it's just playing. Gambling requires something to be at stake, and in this case money is the most widely used. We can also gamble by betting on things, and that's something I see a lot in my neighborhood. From the smallest for example with a pack of cigarettes or whatever, as long as there is a reward from their winnings.
That's right, this is the same as trading with a demo account. I wouldn't say trading and gambling are the same, but there are similarities when using a demo account.
it's equally just trying out existing games. what is at stake is not ours but only the loan. and what we win is also not ours. just for the fun of the game. still gambling is a bet, so there is something we have to bet to win or lose. and we can still enjoy the results. use a demo account or play for free that doesn't generate or lose anything of ours, I don't think it's gambling. it's just an experiment of the game.
So perhaps if we just want to have fun, we can use a demo account so there's no risk of losing playing gambling games. I think it makes sense because by using a demo account, we will have a large balance of money and can use big bets so that if it loses, the loss will not take our money. But there is no sensation if we use a demo account because we cannot feel real wins and losses. But it can entertain those of us who don't have much money to play gambling games with big bets. But perhaps, only a few use demo accounts for fun, and the rest prefer to use real money to gamble.
Yes, we can do that when we don't have enough money to deposit. But as you said, it reduces the sensation in the game we play, because there is nothing we feel there, if we lose it is not a defeat and if we win it is also not a victory because we use money that we cannot do anything with. As for me, I can get pleasure and sensation when I use real money, even if I lose, the sensation will be different, especially if I win, then I will feel a greater sensation of pleasure. I'm happy when I play and win, I'm sure you can feel it too.

Yes, playing for money definitely has the most effect on the senses. And no matter how many times we tell ourselves that, a good gambler, if he bets on matches, or a poker player who keeps a poker face at the table with his opponents, should not feel anything. But in any case, we are all people and not machines, so a certain percentage of players come to gambling precisely for feelings. And even if you play for $ 5, let's say you spin, then you will already feel tides of joy and annoyance when the result is determined.
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Gambling without money or anything at stake is not gambling, it's just playing. Gambling requires something to be at stake, and in this case money is the most widely used. We can also gamble by betting on things, and that's something I see a lot in my neighborhood. From the smallest for example with a pack of cigarettes or whatever, as long as there is a reward from their winnings.
That's right, this is the same as trading with a demo account. I wouldn't say trading and gambling are the same, but there are similarities when using a demo account.
it's equally just trying out existing games. what is at stake is not ours but only the loan. and what we win is also not ours. just for the fun of the game. still gambling is a bet, so there is something we have to bet to win or lose. and we can still enjoy the results. use a demo account or play for free that doesn't generate or lose anything of ours, I don't think it's gambling. it's just an experiment of the game.
So perhaps if we just want to have fun, we can use a demo account so there's no risk of losing playing gambling games. I think it makes sense because by using a demo account, we will have a large balance of money and can use big bets so that if it loses, the loss will not take our money. But there is no sensation if we use a demo account because we cannot feel real wins and losses. But it can entertain those of us who don't have much money to play gambling games with big bets. But perhaps, only a few use demo accounts for fun, and the rest prefer to use real money to gamble.
Yes, we can do that when we don't have enough money to deposit. But as you said, it reduces the sensation in the game we play, because there is nothing we feel there, if we lose it is not a defeat and if we win it is also not a victory because we use money that we cannot do anything with. As for me, I can get pleasure and sensation when I use real money, even if I lose, the sensation will be different, especially if I win, then I will feel a greater sensation of pleasure. I'm happy when I play and win, I'm sure you can feel it too.
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Nope, the very term 'gambling' implies playing chance based game for money.
This is pretty much the answer to the question, don't know why it has reached this many pages to do that. Other replies are pretty much the same though although they're expanding the words but pretty much gives out the same point as this, the only thing more concise answer to this is probably just answering "No".
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Gambling without money or anything at stake is not gambling, it's just playing. Gambling requires something to be at stake, and in this case money is the most widely used. We can also gamble by betting on things, and that's something I see a lot in my neighborhood. From the smallest for example with a pack of cigarettes or whatever, as long as there is a reward from their winnings.
That's right, this is the same as trading with a demo account. I wouldn't say trading and gambling are the same, but there are similarities when using a demo account.
it's equally just trying out existing games. what is at stake is not ours but only the loan. and what we win is also not ours. just for the fun of the game. still gambling is a bet, so there is something we have to bet to win or lose. and we can still enjoy the results. use a demo account or play for free that doesn't generate or lose anything of ours, I don't think it's gambling. it's just an experiment of the game.
So perhaps if we just want to have fun, we can use a demo account so there's no risk of losing playing gambling games. I think it makes sense because by using a demo account, we will have a large balance of money and can use big bets so that if it loses, the loss will not take our money. But there is no sensation if we use a demo account because we cannot feel real wins and losses. But it can entertain those of us who don't have much money to play gambling games with big bets. But perhaps, only a few use demo accounts for fun, and the rest prefer to use real money to gamble.
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Demo accounts are nothing but a child's play to groom you get familiar with gambling or trading as the case maybe, you cannot call it for gambling without money because you aren't yet gambling but learning, once the money is involved then betting has to take place and you can now qualify being a gambler, another thing to consider is that how will the casinos make their own money if money is not involved in gambling, how will they cope and will everyone want to bet with money? Gambling without money is no gambling at all.
I agree gambling without money has no merit everyone bets with money some small amount and some more the difference is just that much. It is not possible to invest in any business without just gambling or money. But before betting you need to manage money in slot properly you must have your own management that allows you to bring a certain balance to the game. It must be determined in advance regardless of the outcome of the game. And with a demo account, you get a complete trading experience using only virtual funds without risking any real money.
Gambling without money or anything at stake is not gambling, it's just playing. Gambling requires something to be at stake, and in this case money is the most widely used. We can also gamble by betting on things, and that's something I see a lot in my neighborhood. From the smallest for example with a pack of cigarettes or whatever, as long as there is a reward from their winnings.
That's right, this is the same as trading with a demo account. I wouldn't say trading and gambling are the same, but there are similarities when using a demo account.
Really, gambling is not only for money. Gambling can be done in different ways just exchange of goods in those days. You could exchange goods to goods in the 80s. So gambling can be done through material things. I have heard that someone has gambled his wife out to his opponent. Some even gamble with their houses. When addicted gambler is planning to win back his lost, enh. He uses everything has to gamble. And go home with empty handed. But the most important of them all is money because with money you can acquire many things. Therefore, gambling with money or without money is still gambling.
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Gambling without money or anything at stake is not gambling, it's just playing. Gambling requires something to be at stake, and in this case money is the most widely used. We can also gamble by betting on things, and that's something I see a lot in my neighborhood. From the smallest for example with a pack of cigarettes or whatever, as long as there is a reward from their winnings.
That's right, this is the same as trading with a demo account. I wouldn't say trading and gambling are the same, but there are similarities when using a demo account.
it's equally just trying out existing games. what is at stake is not ours but only the loan. and what we win is also not ours. just for the fun of the game. still gambling is a bet, so there is something we have to bet to win or lose. and we can still enjoy the results. use a demo account or play for free that doesn't generate or lose anything of ours, I don't think it's gambling. it's just an experiment of the game.
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Nope, the very term 'gambling' implies playing chance based game for money.

Additional to this, before you can accept the terms buying and selling to have taken place, then money or something of valuable must have been involved, when we are playing and begin to argue, it may turn a quarrel and then we continue discussing a d so on during our playing free time, money is not involved and no one is betting then which means a o gambling has taken place, but immediately any form of play involves the use of money to bet and you offer this on agreed terms and conditions, gambling has taken place already.
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Demo accounts are nothing but a child's play to groom you get familiar with gambling or trading as the case maybe, you cannot call it for gambling without money because you aren't yet gambling but learning, once the money is involved then betting has to take place and you can now qualify being a gambler, another thing to consider is that how will the casinos make their own money if money is not involved in gambling, how will they cope and will everyone want to bet with money? Gambling without money is no gambling at all.
I agree gambling without money has no merit everyone bets with money some small amount and some more the difference is just that much. It is not possible to invest in any business without just gambling or money. But before betting you need to manage money in slot properly you must have your own management that allows you to bring a certain balance to the game. It must be determined in advance regardless of the outcome of the game. And with a demo account, you get a complete trading experience using only virtual funds without risking any real money.
Gambling without money or anything at stake is not gambling, it's just playing. Gambling requires something to be at stake, and in this case money is the most widely used. We can also gamble by betting on things, and that's something I see a lot in my neighborhood. From the smallest for example with a pack of cigarettes or whatever, as long as there is a reward from their winnings.
That's right, this is the same as trading with a demo account. I wouldn't say trading and gambling are the same, but there are similarities when using a demo account.
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Obviously it is very different, if you play on a demo account then winning will completely dominate you but on the contrary if you play on a real account then losing will accompany you every time you do it. It's clear that they've changed the system and they're using the demo account to promote some of their sites. But the presence of a demo account in my opinion helps gamblers a little because they can play there if they really don't have money to bet, and with that it will treat their curiosity a little, although on the other hand if you win you will not get real results. To be honest, I also often use this method if I want to gamble but don't want to lose money in it. Right, and besides that the purpose of a demo account is really just for a training ground to try out some strategies or get to know the features better there.
Nobody should deceive me with Demo account oh! Demo account is used by the casino or trading website to lure you play the real account games. I have tried it and "experience is the best teacher". I opened account with a casino and used demo account to test the casino and the way I was winning was impressive and one of the gamblers in my locality told me that the way I winning with the demo account is the same way I will be winning with the real account. Omo!!! I didn't waste time to switched the demo to real account and I deposited $150 to see if I could win then I noticed that demo is demo and real account is real account. I lost all. Demo account is contrary to real account but you can use demo to practice the casinos.

Demo accounts are nothing but a child's play to groom you get familiar with gambling or trading as the case maybe, you cannot call it for gambling without money because you aren't yet gambling but learning, once the money is involved then betting has to take place and you can now qualify being a gambler, another thing to consider is that how will the casinos make their own money if money is not involved in gambling, how will they cope and will everyone want to bet with money? Gambling without money is no gambling at all.
I agree gambling without money has no merit everyone bets with money some small amount and some more the difference is just that much. It is not possible to invest in any business without just gambling or money. But before betting you need to manage money in slot properly you must have your own management that allows you to bring a certain balance to the game. It must be determined in advance regardless of the outcome of the game. And with a demo account, you get a complete trading experience using only virtual funds without risking any real money.
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There is more leeway in what constitutes gambling than you give credit for. Bets are simply one form of gambling, with the main concept being the chance of a win or loss. Of course, the word "gambling" is most often applied to situations in which monetary stakes are involved
Your movie's characters were essentially "gambling" on the decisions they made, and making the wrong one may have had deadly effects. They staked something valuable - their own lives - on a result that was up in the air. That's betting in its most general form. We need to take this broader perspective into account, especially in a discussion forum

I agree. That's what we are doing here, aren't we? Taking a broader perspective into account. It makes the discussion interesting.

It's just my personal opinion that an activity where no money put at risk shouldn't be called "gambling" in the Gambling  section of the forum because it may cause a confusion here. But overall I'm open, I don't mind.
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Nope, the very term 'gambling' implies playing chance based game for money.
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