So people need to understand that a game that you play to win some reward and lose nothing if you don't win can't be and shouldn't be considered gambling but it is just a game that you play for some reward, even if it involves making predictions on real life events like sports matches, etc.
Different opinions about considering gambling without a stake. That can be true in some forms because you've got nothing to gamble with. But we can't also deny that winning and losing is part of gambling and that's why we do something and you're expecting to win, the risk is already there. And it's up to you whether to consider it as gambling or not when you're not putting a lot of pressure and risk on what you do. Considering that we also play gambling and we also could have some reward if ever we hit our bets and we're lucky enough. So, that's it, you do you in considering topics like this. 
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They should be prepared to be disappointed if they consider gambling a source of income because that is not the scenario. Gambling is only for entertainment and pleasure, so people do not need to take gambling seriously, where they will bet large amounts of money. Meanwhile, they don't know when they can make money but instead get a lot of losses. They should think of their victory as a bonus for good luck coming their way at the right time, but they can't expect luck to come more often.
Gambling can also be a source of income, it all depends on the person that's gambling, if you can discipline yourself like the professional, you can make a living by gambling. We have those that their lifes depends on gambling and they're doing just fine as a normal people.
It mightn't be only gambling they considered to be the source of their income as they might have other side hustle they used to assist the money coming from gambling but gambling takes a very large percentage when you consider the money that comes in to their account.
Gambling can be for entertainment and pleasure no doubts but you can also use gambling to pay your bills, we have those that are relying on gambling so it doesn't sound impossible to accomplish but very hard as you'll have to be very lucky to always win and avoid addiction.
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My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?
According to Britannca definition, gambling is said to be the betting or staking of something of value, with consciousness of risk and hope of gain, on the outcome of a game, a contest, or an uncertain event whose result may be determined by chance or accident or have an unexpected result by reason of the bettor's miscalculation.if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com
My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?
Therefore whether it involves staking money or not so far it requires you to make predictions about an event then it's also considered as gambling however apart from online casino, money is not the only requirement for staking on games or events, in rural areas most people who play draft stake their valuable items over who would win the game.
So people need to understand that a game that you play to win some reward and lose nothing if you don't win can't be and shouldn't be considered gambling but it is just a game that you play for some reward, even if it involves making predictions on real life events like sports matches, etc.
Maybe for example again when two men fighting over women, and both compete in a game, or choose a team that will compete in the field is also included in the gambling scope.
Money is not the only one that makes the betting can be called gambling, the fact is there are still many tools to be used as a base or gambling.
Money is not the only one that makes the betting can be called gambling, the fact is there are still many tools to be used as a base or gambling.
It is not gambling when two people compete for a girl's attention or a spot on a sports team. It is a competition, not gambling. The reason why basketball is called a sport and not gambling same thing as the elimination of participants in a contest.
I think that the simple concept of betting is like that, no matter how the mechanics of the process are, what is certain is that if there is one thing that is contested (of value) between two or more parties, it's the same in my opinion.
And indeed competition is also actually when viewed openly, when you have to pay a registration fee as a condition for participating in a competition, and the registration money is used as a prize that is up for grabs, in my opinion it is the same as gambling, except you don't spend anything as a condition. IMO
In gambling there is something at stake, not just money, but perhaps valuable goods as you said. If there is nothing at stake then it cannot be called gambling.
As is the case with what I experienced myself with my friend when watching football for example, especially if there is a competition between community groups / villages or so on, I usually bet with my friend with a pack of cigarettes, yes that's to make the atmosphere more tense when watching the match, yes even though in the end we consumed the cigarettes together. Lol
As is the case with what I experienced myself with my friend when watching football for example, especially if there is a competition between community groups / villages or so on, I usually bet with my friend with a pack of cigarettes, yes that's to make the atmosphere more tense when watching the match, yes even though in the end we consumed the cigarettes together. Lol
That is just what makes the game interesting, money, when there is money in a game things will always be more interesting, exciting and fair, because most players like bets, age does not matter, because being risking that is something it makes them feel more alive, that's why games of chance are called that, because they have money associated with them.
I have played some games without betting money, but just playing for the sake of playing and you can also have fun just because things are not as good as when they are done with money, because that way if it attracts attention and all the time it will be about if you win or lost money. The emotions of gambling with bets and everything that has to do with bets is better with money, otherwise it is child's play.
Actually not only money, previously already mentioned by Joddy, but the item can be a betting tool, or other things that are considered both parties or (certain objects) valuable then it can be mentioned betting, and there indeed makes the atmosphere become Tense and fun because we have something valuable as a gamble tool and that also makes the betting more interesting.
Well, we all know that betting on anything that has value in hopes to get a bigger reward is considered gambling. So it is not limited to money only but if someone states that it is still gambling even if there is no valuable thing involved or at risk because they spent time for it is debatable but IMHO, it is not gambling because time is given free it will flow even if we don't do anything.
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Maybe for example again when two men fighting over women, and both compete in a game, or choose a team that will compete in the field is also included in the gambling scope.
Money is not the only one that makes the betting can be called gambling, the fact is there are still many tools to be used as a base or gambling.
Money is not the only one that makes the betting can be called gambling, the fact is there are still many tools to be used as a base or gambling.
It is not gambling when two people compete for a girl's attention or a spot on a sports team. It is a competition, not gambling. The reason why basketball is called a sport and not gambling same thing as the elimination of participants in a contest.
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Gambling is still entertainment, for 99% of people it should remain classed as a leisure activity and allocated that amount of money. I dont believe its good advice to start confusing people saying you can earn or make money from gambling, you get some winnings back and that is really nice as a bonus but never expect to 'earn'.
This is eternally true but most gamblers consider it as their source of income or an opportunity to earn more money which they should never think because gambling can never guarantee a win. So from the beginning gamblers should have proper concept before gambling. Every gambler should know that this is not a source of income. No one can earn regular money from gambling. But sometimes winning in gambling can be considered as a bonus.I think the continuation of this thread is getting far from the original post, title, and agenda. You see, that is why gambling is called the courage sport. Only the strong prevail. If you are not prepared to lose psychologically, mentally, and financially. Even if the game is not starting yet, you're more likely to lose. It's not only your money that is your betting with. It's also your hope. So when you lose, you also lose some part of yourself. It is a sport because in this game winning and losing is a normal part of the game. For entertainment? probably. to make money? Sure! but only for those who are disciplined and responsible gamblers.
Gambling can only make me lose financially, but I never loss psychologically or mentally, I can never lose my hope simply because I lost a game in gambling, that is a very awkward thing to say, gambling is an entertainment as long as you see and let it act that way, you will never have problems, but when you begin to consider or let gambling take the place of your business, job and so on, it simply means you are sick..
I think the continuation of this thread is getting far from the original post, title, and agenda. You see, that is why gambling is called the courage sport. Only the strong prevail. If you are not prepared to lose psychologically, mentally, and financially. Even if the game is not starting yet, you're more likely to lose. It's not only your money that is your betting with. It's also your hope. So when you lose, you also lose some part of yourself. It is a sport because in this game winning and losing is a normal part of the game. For entertainment? probably. to make money? Sure! but only for those who are disciplined and responsible gamblers.
We all have been through gambling ups and down and at that if you have must make anything out of gambling it means its outcomes are unpredictable.
Gambling is still entertainment, for 99% of people it should remain classed as a leisure activity and allocated that amount of money. I dont believe its good advice to start confusing people saying you can earn or make money from gambling, you get some winnings back and that is really nice as a bonus but never expect to 'earn'.
This is eternally true but most gamblers consider it as their source of income or an opportunity to earn more money which they should never think because gambling can never guarantee a win. So from the beginning gamblers should have proper concept before gambling. Every gambler should know that this is not a source of income. No one can earn regular money from gambling. But sometimes winning in gambling can be considered as a bonus.I think the continuation of this thread is getting far from the original post, title, and agenda. You see, that is why gambling is called the courage sport. Only the strong prevail. If you are not prepared to lose psychologically, mentally, and financially. Even if the game is not starting yet, you're more likely to lose. It's not only your money that is your betting with. It's also your hope. So when you lose, you also lose some part of yourself. It is a sport because in this game winning and losing is a normal part of the game. For entertainment? probably. to make money? Sure! but only for those who are disciplined and responsible gamblers.
Gambling is still entertainment, for 99% of people it should remain classed as a leisure activity and allocated that amount of money. I dont believe its good advice to start confusing people saying you can earn or make money from gambling, you get some winnings back and that is really nice as a bonus but never expect to 'earn'.
This is eternally true but most gamblers consider it as their source of income or an opportunity to earn more money which they should never think because gambling can never guarantee a win. So from the beginning gamblers should have proper concept before gambling. Every gambler should know that this is not a source of income. No one can earn regular money from gambling. But sometimes winning in gambling can be considered as a bonus.In gambling there is something at stake, not just money, but perhaps valuable goods as you said. If there is nothing at stake then it cannot be called gambling.
As is the case with what I experienced myself with my friend when watching football for example, especially if there is a competition between community groups / villages or so on, I usually bet with my friend with a pack of cigarettes, yes that's to make the atmosphere more tense when watching the match, yes even though in the end we consumed the cigarettes together. Lol
As is the case with what I experienced myself with my friend when watching football for example, especially if there is a competition between community groups / villages or so on, I usually bet with my friend with a pack of cigarettes, yes that's to make the atmosphere more tense when watching the match, yes even though in the end we consumed the cigarettes together. Lol
That is just what makes the game interesting, money, when there is money in a game things will always be more interesting, exciting and fair, because most players like bets, age does not matter, because being risking that is something it makes them feel more alive, that's why games of chance are called that, because they have money associated with them.
I have played some games without betting money, but just playing for the sake of playing and you can also have fun just because things are not as good as when they are done with money, because that way if it attracts attention and all the time it will be about if you win or lost money. The emotions of gambling with bets and everything that has to do with bets is better with money, otherwise it is child's play.
Actually not only money, previously already mentioned by Joddy, but the item can be a betting tool, or other things that are considered both parties or (certain objects) valuable then it can be mentioned betting, and there indeed makes the atmosphere become Tense and fun because we have something valuable as a gamble tool and that also makes the betting more interesting.
Maybe for example again when two men fighting over women, and both compete in a game, or choose a team that will compete in the field is also included in the gambling scope.
Money is not the only one that makes the betting can be called gambling, the fact is there are still many tools to be used as a base or gambling.
In gambling there is something at stake, not just money, but perhaps valuable goods as you said. If there is nothing at stake then it cannot be called gambling.
As is the case with what I experienced myself with my friend when watching football for example, especially if there is a competition between community groups / villages or so on, I usually bet with my friend with a pack of cigarettes, yes that's to make the atmosphere more tense when watching the match, yes even though in the end we consumed the cigarettes together. Lol
As is the case with what I experienced myself with my friend when watching football for example, especially if there is a competition between community groups / villages or so on, I usually bet with my friend with a pack of cigarettes, yes that's to make the atmosphere more tense when watching the match, yes even though in the end we consumed the cigarettes together. Lol
That is just what makes the game interesting, money, when there is money in a game things will always be more interesting, exciting and fair, because most players like bets, age does not matter, because being risking that is something it makes them feel more alive, that's why games of chance are called that, because they have money associated with them.
I have played some games without betting money, but just playing for the sake of playing and you can also have fun just because things are not as good as when they are done with money, because that way if it attracts attention and all the time it will be about if you win or lost money. The emotions of gambling with bets and everything that has to do with bets is better with money, otherwise it is child's play.
Gambling is still entertainment, for 99% of people it should remain classed as a leisure activity and allocated that amount of money. I dont believe its good advice to start confusing people saying you can earn or make money from gambling, you get some winnings back and that is really nice as a bonus but never expect to 'earn'.
This is eternally true but most gamblers consider it as their source of income or an opportunity to earn more money which they should never think because gambling can never guarantee a win. So from the beginning gamblers should have proper concept before gambling. Every gambler should know that this is not a source of income. No one can earn regular money from gambling. But sometimes winning in gambling can be considered as a bonus. 
Have you heard of Superpicks on DSTV? where you can make predictions and win money without staking your money?
if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com
My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?
According to Britannca definition, gambling is said to be the betting or staking of something of value, with consciousness of risk and hope of gain, on the outcome of a game, a contest, or an uncertain event whose result may be determined by chance or accident or have an unexpected result by reason of the bettor's miscalculation.if you have not, check it out. Superpicks.com
My question is can it still be called gambling if it is not played with money?
Therefore whether it involves staking money or not so far it requires you to make predictions about an event then it's also considered as gambling however apart from online casino, money is not the only requirement for staking on games or events, in rural areas most people who play draft stake their valuable items over who would win the game.
In gambling there is something at stake, not just money, but perhaps valuable goods as you said. If there is nothing at stake then it cannot be called gambling.
As is the case with what I experienced myself with my friend when watching football for example, especially if there is a competition between community groups / villages or so on, I usually bet with my friend with a pack of cigarettes, yes that's to make the atmosphere more tense when watching the match, yes even though in the end we consumed the cigarettes together. Lol
Sometimes what is at stake is something that is not even physical, one example of this is reputation, there are many people out there with big egos that believe they are always right, so if two people like that were to gamble about an uncertain outcome even if no money or something with a monetary value was exchanged, as long as one won and the other lost then the gambler that lost will feel they lost face or some of their reputation, making such a bet an act of gambling in my mind.As is the case with what I experienced myself with my friend when watching football for example, especially if there is a competition between community groups / villages or so on, I usually bet with my friend with a pack of cigarettes, yes that's to make the atmosphere more tense when watching the match, yes even though in the end we consumed the cigarettes together. Lol
But again this is according to each perception.
And to assert their dominance, they sometimes even commit very unseemly actions. In particular, even if you play some kind of game that cannot be called gambling, and which are discussed in this topic, with such a person, then if he wins, then for him it may even be more important than the money he won in any gambling. Such an egoist immediately gains self-conceit because he is once again convinced of his dominance over other people, and naturally over those who played with him.
To be honest, it is very unpleasant for me to play any games of chance and games that are not related to gambling (as it is understood here in the texts of your posts by all of us) with such a person.
Because if he wins, he will become proud, and if he loses, he will treat you badly and wary.
~ I don' agree with your opinion, we should take the reference as the basis for this topic, based on the Oxford Dictionary, it says that Gambling is "The activity or practice of playing at a game of chance for money or other stakes".
So it means that, all activities which allow us to earn money by playing like guessing scores or guessing anything is an activity with the opportunity to earn money, so it means that it's still gambling, even if it's without money (for this case is Superpicks.com) or capital at all or playing for free on that site.
So it means that, all activities which allow us to earn money by playing like guessing scores or guessing anything is an activity with the opportunity to earn money, so it means that it's still gambling, even if it's without money (for this case is Superpicks.com) or capital at all or playing for free on that site.
I'm actually not sure about this. If you look further into the same Oxford Dictionary you can see that to gamble is "to risk money on a card game, horse race, etc." I think this is very important part here, "to risk money". In this thread we heave agreed on that by "money" we mean anything of value, but if you put nothing of value at risk, it's not gambling.
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In your last statement in which I bold caught my attention. There's a slight difference between gaming and gambling thou people use it interchangeably and synonymously without regarding their differences. Gaming is for entertainment while gambling has to do with expecting something in return. Of course, there's a consequences attached to both with different class of damage associated with each. For the former is emotional damage while the latter is faced with financial and emotional damage.
But I don't agree with you latest statement. Gambling is not about the reward but rather about what's on stake.
In your last statement in which I bold caught my attention. There's a slight difference between gaming and gambling thou people use it interchangeably and synonymously without regarding their differences. Gaming is for entertainment while gambling has to do with expecting something in return. Of course, there's a consequences attached to both with different class of damage associated with each. For the former is emotional damage while the latter is faced with financial and emotional damage.
But I don't agree with you latest statement. Gambling is not about the reward but rather about what's on stake.
Gambling is still entertainment, for 99% of people it should remain classed as a leisure activity and allocated that amount of money. I dont believe its good advice to start confusing people saying you can earn or make money from gambling, you get some winnings back and that is really nice as a bonus but never expect to 'earn'.
Well if you analyze the composition of gambling and the possible result it can bring, there is no lie in telling that in gambling there is really and opportunity to earn but the question is the percentage of the possibility. Winning on gambling is one of the evidence that there is actually a potential no matter how low or high it is.
The problem lies when an individual look at it as an stable source of income. Individual must not consider gambling as a stable source of income because we all know that gambling result is often times random and most likely an individual's gambling session will end up in a lose especially when a player failed to implement bankroll management.
Almost nobody can do this profitable gain as if its a job thats dream fodder, love the story but dont believe it. To provide a game to play there has to be a fee and everyone will charge some cost to the game, a government running a large national lottery is doing it as a form of voluntary tax despite the big prizes they are making regular money from it and overall it costs people to play. Stay realistic and you will stay happy, dreams are dangerous.
Gambling is a natural risk related activity, every human has some relation to gambles they must take monetary or non-monetary to me its all risk vs reward imo.
Gambling is a natural risk related activity, every human has some relation to gambles they must take monetary or non-monetary to me its all risk vs reward imo.
I highly agree that only a few individuals manage to get a significant amount on gambling. Just by looking at the lottery ratio of winners and losers, it is enough to support our belief.
For me, Risk is what makes gambling exciting and different to the normal games without money involved. It very hard to enjoy gambling using very small amount of money. By small amount means a profit that is just a penny.
In my part, I also think that the risk really makes the game exciting while the reward is the reason why it is enticing. So gambling without risking anything to lose is just a game of chance.
Not every positive experience has to have a monetary reward is a good point. If we go back to the idea that everything has to be monetized, then we will never experience pleasure. I liken it to when we are on vacation for example, we will spend money and it will give us a reciprocal pleasure that we will not be able to feel in other things. Likewise with gambling, maybe some people will say it's just wasting money, but for those of us who seek pleasure in gambling it is a form of entertainment that we don't get in other things.
I like the concluding part, some of us gamble for fun, and it's not always about movies as movies and other entertaining means boring someone at times. I never read of gambling as fun in the forum when I discuss this last year, anyone could gamble for their peculiar reasons, but no matter the reasons we are doing it, let's use our brains and moderate everything. Someone like me that gamble for fun uses a little amount of money for it.I will again like to also support you that fun might not be linked to money, but still, in that case, note that gambling is no more involved, you are just having fun with what you love doing.
Yes you are right, maybe some people will be satisfied with just watching a movie, and for some others may prefer to go out for a walk, and there are also those who just rest at home to fulfill their need for pleasure because they are too busy working outside the home.
It's all about how people enjoy it.
Gambling is still entertainment, for 99% of people it should remain classed as a leisure activity and allocated that amount of money. I dont believe its good advice to start confusing people saying you can earn or make money from gambling, you get some winnings back and that is really nice as a bonus but never expect to 'earn'.
Almost nobody can do this profitable gain as if its a job thats dream fodder, love the story but dont believe it. To provide a game to play there has to be a fee and everyone will charge some cost to the game, a government running a large national lottery is doing it as a form of voluntary tax despite the big prizes they are making regular money from it and overall it costs people to play. Stay realistic and you will stay happy, dreams are dangerous.
Gambling is a natural risk related activity, every human has some relation to gambles they must take monetary or non-monetary to me its all risk vs reward imo.
Almost nobody can do this profitable gain as if its a job thats dream fodder, love the story but dont believe it. To provide a game to play there has to be a fee and everyone will charge some cost to the game, a government running a large national lottery is doing it as a form of voluntary tax despite the big prizes they are making regular money from it and overall it costs people to play. Stay realistic and you will stay happy, dreams are dangerous.
Gambling is a natural risk related activity, every human has some relation to gambles they must take monetary or non-monetary to me its all risk vs reward imo.
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