Topic: Without money, does it still qualify as gambling? - page 4. (Read 4836 times)

I disagree, I believe a demo can be considered a real experience of the game since we are able to experience the game mechanics and how it works but if we are talking about a real gambling experience then it is a different thing since a demo game can never be considered as a gambling experience.  It simulates the gambling game but cannot be considered as an actual gambling experience.

I also agree with you that new players often think that actual gambling with the game would have the same result as the demo experience but end up getting disappointed because they are two very different experiences.

Demo games can only be the reason for more people to fall into gambling even without money which is a big risk because there are possible things that might happen in the end. We shouldn't get tempted to gamble if ever we can't afford it because once we do, we might only end up selling everything that we have or borrowing funds just to pursue it. Gambling shouldn't be done by people who aren't prepared financially and emotionally.

Totally different and we know that demo does involved not real money or funds on which it cant really be considered gambling at all but on the sense that you are doing literally a gambling game then this is what makes
this argument would be stirring up that kind of perspective but in general sense then it cant be considered gambling since you hadn't risk out something. Even if we do speak about some decisions in life which it is really considered to take up some risks or gamble for you to achieve or acquire something that you do plan. This is why its not only limited literally on gambling games but even on simple decisions in life that would be made on.
Demo games doesnt really give out that kind of emotional approach unlike when you do make use of real money and this is their main difference. You wont really be able to feel the thrill and excitement on the time that
you do gamble since you arent risking something like something valuable on which it would really be that understandable with that kind of set-up.

I can't say you're gambling without staking - you've got nothing to lose if your predictions doesn't show forth...
I knew the site's gon' be limited to some countries even before I read the whole post... Yeahhh, sometimes since you're giving in much time and resources to select your 5 odds, then it's safe to say you're "speculating" but without funds..
OT; Sometimes, I do wonder if peeps actually win on the superpicks though..

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I agree with you on that,  demo account can't be taken as being real experience of the games as everything with demo is different from the original game and even the winning ratio,  and that is where most newbies get things wrong because their tend to believe that since they are successful using the demo accounts and winning some of the game, they think it same while playing the live casino games and at that, the always record disappointment since their hopes are mostly ditched since there is a big difference between a demo account and real casino account.

I absolutely agree, emotions in demo mode and real money are completely different. At the same time, if someone played everything on a demo account, he should not say "but this would not have happened on real money."
After all, all trading on the demo makes sense only when the player treats them very strictly as real money.

 It is also important not to forget that there is such a thing as bonus money. Those that cannot be withdrawn, but you can win on them.
Do you think they relate more to a real account, or to a demo account?
It seems to me that this is something between the first and the second.

Yes, in fact I think like you, but as I said before, there are players who, well, don't like the demo mode, because they believe that money is lost there, but they also see the value of money, 1 dollar is 1 dollar, and well, nobody gives it to you like that but like that because it's not much, you have to win, and for that reason you also have to take care of yourself, the main reason why players are looking for ways to play in real mode and not with demo mode is because many times they get carried away by emotions, also a friend told me one day that he had won a lot in demo mode and in real mode he did not win anything, but lost, then he told me that if I had started in real mode that money you earned in demo mode was real.

I told him later, well, maybe it is or would have been like that, but he hadn't played as relaxed as he did in demo mode, and that's the way it is because when you play in demo mode, it doesn't matter what you win, nor does it matter how much you bet , he will bet with much more relaxation and he will not be checking the balance of how much he has spent and how much he has not spent, especially when things have to be done with different amounts of bets, he tried to play in real mode similar but not the same as In demo mode, perhaps some of those limitations were what made him lose, because things already mattered a lot to him, one thing is to master and see how to play and another very different is when you know and play with clarity of what you is done, that is something that many players have not understood. which is not a waste of time, but to make sure that in the game for real money you are not mistaken in details that were polished in demo mode.

That little idea that a new user gets about a particular game always lead to debt. If a casino wants to lure new members they should restrict them from depositing a big amount or should give some guidance as to start with small amount. Such initiative would encourage responsible gambling but why would they do it. They are running the business to make profits, which is good but some sensitivity towards users would give them a good reputation.

demo account from the casino is only intended to know the features of a real game simulation. but indeed a demo account may be designed to make novice players have a pleasant experience. That is what will make novice gamblers interested in depositing some of their money to play for real.
the most important thing is not a matter of winning and losing on the demo account. but adapt to the game that will be carried out. Demo accounts may not be of use to gamblers who are already proficient in certain games at some casinos. but for beginners, a demo account can give a little idea of the game to be carried out.

Demo account are a big waste of time as using them would only convince the newbie that gambling is an easy way to double your investment. It will convince them to start with big amount after sometime resulting them losing the principal amount instantly when they play using a live account.

I would consider using a demo account as gambling although real money is not involved but because of easy scenarios being created to give an idea to a new member on how to play a particular game.

Demo account was nothing rather than BS. It's very different compared with playing in the real game. That's pretty much the same like binary options. The demo gives you easy win but once it comes to the real account and it will make you very hard in winning the game. That's the main purpose of it. The demo account being made as promotional purpose but the fact that it's BS.

People shall not need to use demo account other than use it to know what kind of feature that available in the platform.

I agree, because if you have basic programming skills, or at least a strategy with certain actions based on different outcomes, then you can easily try to find an approach to the game or betting or even trading. Especially if this player is a beginner. But then, if we are talking about a completely new and unfamiliar gambling site, it is better to go through KYC in advance. In order not to face the problem later that the platform sees that you have won and does not delay the verification process for you, not wanting to part with the money. This is an old trick and I've been using it for a long time. Because it turns out that what's the point of winning a lot of money if they don't want to give it to you in the end?

I beg to differ. Having demo accounts can make a difference. It might not be as noticeable as it seems but aside from making people acquainted to the user interface and the nature of how it works, it also help people to practice and test the waters first before actually betting and depositing an actual amount. Demo accounts can be your training ground before the actual event which you can try to enhance your knowledge and skills while practicing. You can also try to make few techniques and strategies in which you can apply to the real deal. It's basically how you will utilize demo accounts to your advantage since most of it are free of charge, so you won't really lose a thing. The downside is of course, you won't also gain anything.

I fully agree that a demo account cannot be useful in real trading. There are no necessary emotions or excitement, the player by and large does not care about the outcome of transactions. Therefore, a demo account is needed only for a full acquaintance with the interface. For example, I have never played Slots, and I have no idea by what laws the winnings are calculated there. Therefore, for me, the best way out will be to try this type of casino games without money. To see if I like to play like that. In the end, we come to gambling not only to get results, but also emotions. And you can get a positive experience only if you like the interface and dynamics of the game.

The difference here is not on the side of the casino or any site with a demo account. 
The difference is on the side of the player and is related to his behavior and reactions.
 And given that risky decisions are of course more often used by players on demo accounts, all the developers of demo versions, I think, specifically install algorithms aimed at making winnings easier compared to a real game.  By the way, this little trick then makes it possible to beat beginner players a little more immediately after the player switches from a demo account to playing on a real account.  And that's why many people are surprised later, and ask themselves the question - maybe I still haven't practiced enough on a demo account?  But it is not. 
Therefore, I say that you really need to train all the same on a real account, but with very little money.  This will teach you how to act in a real game much better and more effectively.

Demo mode can actually be used as a learning tool for novice gamblers, even though there are differences between demo mode and live mode gambling, most demo modes make it easier to get big wins as if it had been set to win gamblers so they can increase their confidence before trying the live mode and end up gambling in live mode never tasting a win except a losing streak.

But even so still in my opinion it will be considered gambling using fake money I believe demo mode is definitely useful for new users to test games and gambling to understand how it works even though there is a difference in luck between demo mode and live mode. but there is no difference, it's just that one uses fake money, the other is real money. 

Probably useful or useless training in trading on the stock exchange or playing in a casino, or, for example, Forex trading using demo accounts, should be decided by the player himself. 
I admit that many people are just impatient to start trading or playing for real money as soon as possible and they ignore demo accounts altogether.  Some people just make bets in completely different ways when they know that if they lose, they will really lose money and still try to make these bets deliberately.  And if such people start training on a demo account, then their motivation will be so transformed that it will simply not be applicable if they switch to a real account.  However, the risk-taking habit he developed on the demo account may continue.  And then the losses and losing the game is almost guaranteed.  However, some players are certainly aware of the difference between a demo account and a real account and take this difference into account. 
And yet, perhaps, a demo account is really suitable for elementary development of skills simply by pressing certain options in the right order and sequence and training similar technical skills in the game.

If it's a game that we've played a lot and we're still playing in demo mode then it's a waste of time and useless.
It's different when it's a new game or a game we've never played before, using the demo mode can be very useful because we can try to see the details of the game and how it works so that it's more likely to increase the chances of winning if we play in real time by risking the money we have.

But sometimes not many people are aware of this and they think playing in demo mode is useless.

There is more leeway in what constitutes gambling than you give credit for. Bets are simply one form of gambling, with the main concept being the chance of a win or loss. Of course, the word "gambling" is most often applied to situations in which monetary stakes are involved
Your movie's characters were essentially "gambling" on the decisions they made, and making the wrong one may have had deadly effects. They staked something valuable - their own lives - on a result that was up in the air. That's betting in its most general form. We need to take this broader perspective into account, especially in a discussion forum

So it depends on each person's ability to understand the use of AI. By having that ability, one can quickly master it and maybe make something that can help him gather information or even place bets. And that is like what you have done with the AI.

But if AI is just for fun and has nothing to do with betting, then it's not something that can be used for betting, and of course, without money, it's not gambling. So we determine whether it is gambling or not based on the money used or just guessing.