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February 21, 2024, 06:18:42 AM
As this thread is about to reach page 10, I think it's time to lock it and make way for new threads for discussion. I think the question was answered from quite early on and the sentiment was that whatever friends one might have need to take personal responsibility for their faults. At least that was the judgment of most people.

For me, I think showing some compassion and at least not planning gambling events with said friend would be a good idea at least for a prolonged amount of time until it's deemed that he can be close to gambling without triggering his compulsion again. And if most of the friends group agreed that hanging out with said person was more valuable than their poker sessions, it might still be a good idea to reduce the poker sessions and increase hanging out as this would also offer some support to quit gambling.

With that thought, I'm now locking this thread as I believe the discussion has been more than enough for what such a question calls for.  Wink
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February 21, 2024, 05:46:13 AM
If not for anything else, the addict's friends need to be careful not to get addicted too, stopping could be a way for them not to end up like their friend who is addicted. Although, the addict still has multiple ways of gambling, outside his gambling mates, I think what his friends can do is help take him to a therapy.

You're correct, any individual that wants to stop his or her gambling addiction should do it the proper way and that's by going to see a professional therapist that'll help them stop been addicted to gambling. I can stop gambling for a friend if my gambling practice is making them uncomfortable, it's just like when I'm being asked by my spouse to stop gambling, I'll have no choice but to listen to her and so it's in the situation of a friend as if I don't stop gambling I might lose that friend.

Quitting gambling will be beneficial to you too as it'll make you have some free time that you'll use for other thing's that can improve your lifestyle. If you were gambling for money, you can find a part time job that'll be paying you steady and you won't have to be depending on gambling to make money and when you were gambling for entertainment, you can look for other ways to get yourself entertained.
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February 21, 2024, 05:25:36 AM
Would you do the same for a friend?
Nah, I am gonna be honest with that kind of friend of course and tell him frankly about priorities in life. Tolerating such behavior won't give him the best results with his gambling addiction but instead you are just making things even worst. We all know that most people won't take advices from others but if that friend has to listen and do something to minimize his gambling activity then he's worth the help if not, then I don't what is.
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February 21, 2024, 04:51:24 AM
Referring to the title of this thread, I think the contents of what you describe in this post are too exaggerated. the question is, will if we stop gambling for someone else's sake, our friends will also stop their addiction. I don't think so at all, because one of the characters in this story is in the stage of a gambling addiction. referring to several points you said, especially someone who is the theme in this thread's story, he tried to ask his friends to join in playing on his slot account. fortunately, this person was well aware not to cause any trouble to his friends.

Well, let's just pretend that we are the people in this story. Basically, it is very clear that my friend is having a problem with excessive gambling activities. If the situation is like this, there's not much I can do apart from stopping the meeting to play gambling together. then, try to talk to him persuasively. reminded him that he had gone too far and lost control in his gambling case. In essence, providing a broad understanding of gambling. plus, the importance of responsibility. however, in order to be a good example, we must also be seen to provide a consistent example according to what we suggest. If this does not have an impact on him, there is little choice but to involve his family in order to persuade him and take him to a rehabilitation center.

Referring to your thread title "Would you quit gambling for a friend?", the answer is no. because I have no responsibility for what happened to my friend. overall, this thread gives us an overview and essence of the importance of being responsible. at least, for ourselves. moreover, one that involves gambling.
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February 21, 2024, 03:36:50 AM
Yeah that's true, true friends will really criticize you especially when they see what you are doing wrong and when we have a friend like that, let's appreciate it because that kind of person is rare nowadays. Sometimes there is nothing wrong if we listen to them because it is also for our good.
True friends will always accompany us through thick and thin because they are sincere to us and vice versa. We have to appreciate our friends who always advise us for our good and we should also be able to do the same as them. At least they try to help us and are always willing to listen to what we complain about. If they can help, they will help us and always accompany us so we don't feel alone in solving the problem. We must also be able to do the same when our friends experience problems so that our friendship will be even closer because that is what true friends are like.
A true friend will never leave in times of danger. Friendship is a relationship that is not destined for everyone. But my friends have cheated me almost constantly which makes the word friendship very difficult for me. I used to consider my friends as friends but they did wrong things to me.  Because of that I don't have a relationship with them anymore. I had a couple of friends who lost their relationship because of gambling.
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February 21, 2024, 02:59:40 AM
If I am going to quit then this is not for anyone but my family , A friend is not enough for me to chance anything even how bad it is because if there are someone that can be credited then they are my love person , like my wife and daughter and my mother and father and siblings.
the life of each gamblers specially those who are engaging literally has a hard time quitting because this becomes not only a habit but also their lifestyles.

So the answer is NO, but for my family it is a YES>.
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February 20, 2024, 06:20:39 PM
I am an independent person and I wouldn't let my friends meddle with my decision. If that friend of mine needs some help, I'll tell him to just quit and don't get into trouble by gambling ever again.

But that won't make me quit for him.

We should be accountable for every action that we do as we're all grown ups.
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February 20, 2024, 05:23:54 PM
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It's fine not to be loyal to anybody on earth, but sometimes the health of people we care for can be a reason why we should respect them and listen to their request. However, in the context of the story, it looks like a voluntary request from the friends of the gambler, whether they should stop for the sake of the addict. He never asked them to do so, they think that stopping could make him have a rethink, since he wouldn't find anyone to gamble with, as they're his gambling mates. Those things if it will work can be a memorable thing to do for a friend's safety, Healthwise. If not for anything else, the addict's friends need to be careful not to get addicted too, stopping could be a way for them not to end up like their friend who is addicted. Although, the addict still has multiple ways of gambling, outside his gambling mates, I think what his friends can do is help take him to a therapy.
That is the complex dynamics of loyalty, care, and responsibility within a group of friends. It's indeed a delicate balance between respecting someone's autonomy and intervening for him, because it involves addictive behaviors. The friends' voluntary decision to stop gambling with the addict out of concern for his health reflects a form of care and responsibility within the friendship circle.

They not only protect themselves but also demonstrate solidarity and support for their friend's journey towards recovery by stopping their own gambling habits. By taking proactive steps to address their own behaviors and seek therapy for their friend, these actions demonstrate a deep level of care and empathy. Solidarity among friends can be a powerful force for positive change. When individuals come together to support each other's well-being, it not only strengthens their bonds but also creates a supportive environment conducive to recovery and growth. Seeking therapy for the addict and the friends' proactive steps towards addressing the addiction reflect a thoughtful and compassionate approach to navigating such challenging situations within friendships.
But not all would really be having that sense of care and responsibility from time to time in speaking with our friends,but pretty sure that there would be but its a rare situation because in most cases they would really be that leaving you hanging on the air on the time that you would really be experiencing those problems or issues on which this is something very normal. Even myself cant really be sure that i would be having those sympathy on the sense that you would be quitting something just because your friend is addicted already. Yes, i could give out some advises but its not something that i could be also tend to do
just to show my support or trying out to solve his addiction. Why? It would be pointless on doing so because if he dont have any plans on quitting then no matter what you do, it would really be still pointless.
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February 20, 2024, 05:02:34 PM
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It's fine not to be loyal to anybody on earth, but sometimes the health of people we care for can be a reason why we should respect them and listen to their request. However, in the context of the story, it looks like a voluntary request from the friends of the gambler, whether they should stop for the sake of the addict. He never asked them to do so, they think that stopping could make him have a rethink, since he wouldn't find anyone to gamble with, as they're his gambling mates. Those things if it will work can be a memorable thing to do for a friend's safety, Healthwise. If not for anything else, the addict's friends need to be careful not to get addicted too, stopping could be a way for them not to end up like their friend who is addicted. Although, the addict still has multiple ways of gambling, outside his gambling mates, I think what his friends can do is help take him to a therapy.
That is the complex dynamics of loyalty, care, and responsibility within a group of friends. It's indeed a delicate balance between respecting someone's autonomy and intervening for him, because it involves addictive behaviors. The friends' voluntary decision to stop gambling with the addict out of concern for his health reflects a form of care and responsibility within the friendship circle.

They not only protect themselves but also demonstrate solidarity and support for their friend's journey towards recovery by stopping their own gambling habits. By taking proactive steps to address their own behaviors and seek therapy for their friend, these actions demonstrate a deep level of care and empathy. Solidarity among friends can be a powerful force for positive change. When individuals come together to support each other's well-being, it not only strengthens their bonds but also creates a supportive environment conducive to recovery and growth. Seeking therapy for the addict and the friends' proactive steps towards addressing the addiction reflect a thoughtful and compassionate approach to navigating such challenging situations within friendships.
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February 20, 2024, 04:17:12 PM
I think that something difficult not to want to do is like stopping eating, or stopping doing a basic activity, but if I see that my abstention can help a person, why not do it? and play in the casino just when that friend is not online or do it differently in a physical casino or something, but if you have to have a little patience, addiction is a very serious problem, it is something that I don't know how to classify I think I would have to say that it is one of the most difficult things a human being can suffer.

So I start from something, we shouldn't be selfish people, if a friend needs us, what's the point of stopping playing for a while? I believe that divine blessings come after a very good action, and what it feels like when you do something good for someone is a great feeling, I believe that that is what we should always consider, and thus be able to have better things so that they can be happier the people.
If you can do it it will be much better because you can help one person, but making active gamblers aware is not easy because they need greater attention and it will be much easier for their closest family to do it. Even if you are a friend, you can also help heal. Recovering addicted people must be in a special place because there they will be trained psychologically so that they no longer have hallucinations of getting money from gambling. Without involving smart people regarding psychology, it will be very difficult to cure them because training the awareness of active gamblers is not easy because they have high hallucinations about games to make money.

If someone is in need and you are able to do it, there is no problem helping a friend who is addicted to gambling and I am not saying that you cannot help cure a friend. But rather the priority of the person who is more important in curing them is their immediate family. If we are talking about decisions, it might be a little more difficult because hoping for approval is a noble act and it is very difficult to make the discussion wider.

Yes, Basically things can be seen like this because when it is a special case of a friend , I Would not Hesitate to do it and not only because it is a noble Act, I think that before doing any of the same things, we can take away our titles, Acknowledge them , Whatever we are, and what remains? a human being, that is what we should see above all , I have been seeing a lot of Children  , not only about gambling, but almost everything in general except the technical part, but I have seen that there are many users who do not have much Humanity, they don't mind going over whatever it is just to come out, I Really don't know how they feel about that? I would like to know, but I still believe that we are human , and we do not know if one of those acts can later save us. to one of our children, or even to one of our Relatives , I believe that every good act brings good things, and there are many things that can be Considered good , and if we are good friend s, it Would be Great to be Able to help them.

I hope that one day I can have a way to help many patients with their treatments and even more so if they are good, I think that one has to focus on that, but the mere fact of seeing things in the casino, I think that doing something For 1, only for 1 can you raise awareness among other people, so if a person needs something like that, then let's stop playing for a while, I think it's worth doing something like that for someone so that they don't fall into how terrible addiction is. Honestly, I would like to help people with this condition with words and advice right now. I know there are many cases, that's why you have to have some tact Many want advice anonymously I think these Debates can help a lot.
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February 19, 2024, 06:13:14 AM
Not really, why would I choose to quit something that I'm in complete control of for the sake of a friend? If this friend is a close one and they're on a deathbed and they wish for me to quit gambling, I might do so for their memory and promise but if they're a friend that's not that close then it's not really a good idea to do so because you're going to end up being a dog to them, doing whatever they tell you to do, that doesn't sit right with me and I think that the only time that a valid reason that a person can do this to someone is when they're really concerned that the person is addicted and this can be a way for them to make that person consider quitting to cure the addiction.

It's fine not to be loyal to anybody on earth, but sometimes the health of people we care for can be a reason why we should respect them and listen to their request. However, in the context of the story, it looks like a voluntary request from the friends of the gambler, whether they should stop for the sake of the addict. He never asked them to do so, they think that stopping could make him have a rethink, since he wouldn't find anyone to gamble with, as they're his gambling mates. Those things if it will work can be a memorable thing to do for a friend's safety, Healthwise. If not for anything else, the addict's friends need to be careful not to get addicted too, stopping could be a way for them not to end up like their friend who is addicted. Although, the addict still has multiple ways of gambling, outside his gambling mates, I think what his friends can do is help take him to a therapy.
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February 19, 2024, 05:25:21 AM
I think that something difficult not to want to do is like stopping eating, or stopping doing a basic activity, but if I see that my abstention can help a person, why not do it? and play in the casino just when that friend is not online or do it differently in a physical casino or something, but if you have to have a little patience, addiction is a very serious problem, it is something that I don't know how to classify I think I would have to say that it is one of the most difficult things a human being can suffer.

So I start from something, we shouldn't be selfish people, if a friend needs us, what's the point of stopping playing for a while? I believe that divine blessings come after a very good action, and what it feels like when you do something good for someone is a great feeling, I believe that that is what we should always consider, and thus be able to have better things so that they can be happier the people.
If you can do it it will be much better because you can help one person, but making active gamblers aware is not easy because they need greater attention and it will be much easier for their closest family to do it. Even if you are a friend, you can also help heal. Recovering addicted people must be in a special place because there they will be trained psychologically so that they no longer have hallucinations of getting money from gambling. Without involving smart people regarding psychology, it will be very difficult to cure them because training the awareness of active gamblers is not easy because they have high hallucinations about games to make money.

If someone is in need and you are able to do it, there is no problem helping a friend who is addicted to gambling and I am not saying that you cannot help cure a friend. But rather the priority of the person who is more important in curing them is their immediate family. If we are talking about decisions, it might be a little more difficult because hoping for approval is a noble act and it is very difficult to make the discussion wider.
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February 18, 2024, 02:30:57 PM


Well, it happens that friends are one thing and family is another, it is obvious that your friend stopped playing for his family, his family is much more valuable than a game in a casino, and whoever puts the game above them Well, I think he is crazy, or something is missing in his mind, because that is something that should not even be thought about, I could think that when a person starts to see that it is the most imprint they can make in their life according to the game and to other actions, well you have to be very clear about what you want, because if you are a person who does not think about the day to day and live as everything happens without thinking about your future or the things you can do, well I think that is an empty person, but when there are many things like friendship, love for your family, that already weighs a lot, it is something that cannot be done without regret, but since the issue is for your friend, what is the right thing to do is sacrifice ?

I think that something difficult not to want to do is like stopping eating, or stopping doing a basic activity, but if I see that my abstention can help a person, why not do it? and play in the casino just when that friend is not online or do it differently in a physical casino or something, but if you have to have a little patience, addiction is a very serious problem, it is something that I don't know how to classify I think I would have to say that it is one of the most difficult things a human being can suffer.

So I start from something, we shouldn't be selfish people, if a friend needs us, what's the point of stopping playing for a while? I believe that divine blessings come after a very good action, and what it feels like when you do something good for someone is a great feeling, I believe that that is what we should always consider, and thus be able to have better things so that they can be happier the people.
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February 18, 2024, 03:04:03 AM
Would you do the same for a friend? Me personally I think I would have just confronted such a friend and told them to seek help instead of me altering my lifestyle for his benefit. If they didn't seek help to the point that it was affecting me I would've just stopped hanging out with them silently I think. A friend would've had to be a real good one to make an exception at least. 
I have never seen directly anyone who wants to stop gambling because of a friend, although maybe something like that has happened out there, but I have never seen it directly. I once saw a friend stop gambling because of his wife and children because of the demands placed on them so he decided to stop even though at first it seemed so difficult because of the addiction. Friends and family show greater encouragement to stop gambling because perhaps they understand our condition better.

Unfortunately not everyone can be aware of the encouragement of those closest to them and there are even people who have to separate from their families because of their gambling addiction. For me, it doesn't matter if someone is involved in gambling as long as they can handle the gambling responsibly, both regarding the finances they use to gamble and the specific time they spend playing.
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February 18, 2024, 02:57:17 AM
Not really, why would I choose to quit something that I'm in complete control of for the sake of a friend? If this friend is a close one and they're on a deathbed and they wish for me to quit gambling, I might do so for their memory and promise but if they're a friend that's not that close then it's not really a good idea to do so because you're going to end up being a dog to them, doing whatever they tell you to do, that doesn't sit right with me and I think that the only time that a valid reason that a person can do this to someone is when they're really concerned that the person is addicted and this can be a way for them to make that person consider quitting to cure the addiction.
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February 18, 2024, 02:51:30 AM
Friendship is about give and take, so it depends on what sort of friend he is to me and how long we have been friends for. If it's a casual friend who hasn't done anything special for me or we don't have a very strong bond, I would rather ask them to seek help instead of disturbing the activities that I enjoy and have no issues with, but if it's a close and dear friend who has been with me for many years and we share a strong bond, I can easily give the sacrifice for him if it helps him get away from the addiction.

Closing down the gambling activities when he is around wouldn't be a complete solution, in my opinion, because when he is alone and isn't around us anymore, he can still gamble since there is no one to stop him from doing that. So it's better if the friends help the guy instead of just not gambling in front of him.
I know the importance of friendship, but even as close as I am to my friends, they don't know my gambling condition, and I have a reason for that. They won't even bother me that much because I always gamble when I am home, and some of the things I have acquired are through gambling, so there are pieces of evidence that show that I am doing well in gambling, even though there is a record of gambling. Due to work, we hardly see each other, so they don't even know what I do or not. And what if I gamble? What is my friend's business with my gambling condition? Since I don't ask them for money, I tell them to stay off such topics, and I will be offended if they are repeated. If something I enjoy and make money from is repeated and you ask me to stop it, it won't work. In my view, you cannot stop people from doing what they love, and the way things are should be left the way they are.
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February 18, 2024, 02:24:10 AM
Being present isn't enough; action is. When a friend is struggling, you don't just listen. Your hands get soiled. Intervention? Yes. Assistance for professionals? Double yes. It's about directing them to resources that matter, not babysitting them. Surprise: They're not the only ones who must open up. We must make them feel safe. Trust, accountability, and occasional tough love. Yes, they must recover, but our involvement is important. We're reality checkers and supporters, not simply spectators
The presence and help of friends in trouble is very necessary because it can make them feel that they are not alone in solving their problems. They will be able to rise from their downturn because there is support from other friends who can continue to accompany them and are always there to help them solve their problems. Taking them to a professional must be done so that they can get direction from a professional and know what they have to do. With all the support they get from their family and friends, they can be enthusiastic again and solve their problems well so they can have a normal life again. Even though he needs time to heal himself, it won't be felt because they are accompanied by people who care about them.
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February 17, 2024, 09:43:11 PM
Friendship is about give and take, so it depends on what sort of friend he is to me and how long we have been friends for. If it's a casual friend who hasn't done anything special for me or we don't have a very strong bond, I would rather ask them to seek help instead of disturbing the activities that I enjoy and have no issues with, but if it's a close and dear friend who has been with me for many years and we share a strong bond, I can easily give the sacrifice for him if it helps him get away from the addiction.

Closing down the gambling activities when he is around wouldn't be a complete solution, in my opinion, because when he is alone and isn't around us anymore, he can still gamble since there is no one to stop him from doing that. So it's better if the friends help the guy instead of just not gambling in front of him.

Some people trust the friendship,but some friends doesn’t help you when you get into big risk.The reason behind the friendship was only for their benefit to them,they use you for all their money needs.If you say your friends,only the true friends get happy for you.But many friends get unhappy and try to get the loan from you.Because they come to know about your winning money.Being a gambler,I will accept the words of friend like I had mentioned.If the true friends ask me quit,surely I do that at the addictions time.Because we know to whom we need to give importance.Most of the gambling addicted people get away from gambling by the words of their own mother.
There are really indeed 2 types of friends on which to those friends who are really just that present on the time that you do have money or on a good situation and into those friends that do ran away or doesnt really care about someone on the time that you are on such big trouble or problem on which it do really sucks on having a friend just like that but well you would really be able to prove out on whose those true friends and who are the ones who are really just that good on the time that you are doing good. When it comes on doing gambling then it isnt really that much of an issue or something that will really be that a problem if you are really just that responsible on what you are doing.If you are someone whose really that mindful and careful then there would be no problems
and as a friend who had someone a friend falls into addiction then suggestion and advises should really be given out.
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February 17, 2024, 09:38:15 PM
So I heard a story of some acquaintances that in their friend group, some person really got addicted recently.
Gambling addiction doesn't just occur suddenly and recently. It happens over a period of time - days, months, years, decades. It process is just like a butterfly metamorphosing.
True, but it happens for sure and of course no one will ever be able to realize that he has entered condition or initial phase of gambling addiction.
They indirectly increase their gambling intensity and over time it becomes habit that cannot be abandoned or stopped.
They will realize when they have experienced destruction or experienced various serious problems, but this awareness is too late because everything has already happened.

This guy hasn't caused any trouble to his friends but it's a worrying situation to see him waste most of his salary every month... So now the other guys were contemplating to quit their poker playing hobby because it was really affecting their friend negatively. And they had a somewhat regular get-together to play poker with very small stakes just for the fun of it. It's a petty that they might have to abandon their poker games but to them it's either that or abandoning their friend and worsening his compulsion.
The best way to get their friend help is not for them to quit gambling because they would not be doing it of their freewill and they going to regret it later. Rather going with their friend to a gamblers meeting. Getting them the professional help that they need and funding it as best as they can.
Everything will depend on how react to it, if that the best then just do it and if not immediately stop and do what best.
Only each individual can feel the impact of each decision, so the good and bad of each activity also depends on how person has mindset in making decisions.
This is not about professional help but how he moves forward towards much better direction for the future.
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February 17, 2024, 06:56:55 PM
Friendship is about give and take, so it depends on what sort of friend he is to me and how long we have been friends for. If it's a casual friend who hasn't done anything special for me or we don't have a very strong bond, I would rather ask them to seek help instead of disturbing the activities that I enjoy and have no issues with, but if it's a close and dear friend who has been with me for many years and we share a strong bond, I can easily give the sacrifice for him if it helps him get away from the addiction.

Closing down the gambling activities when he is around wouldn't be a complete solution, in my opinion, because when he is alone and isn't around us anymore, he can still gamble since there is no one to stop him from doing that. So it's better if the friends help the guy instead of just not gambling in front of him.

Some people trust the friendship,but some friends doesn’t help you when you get into big risk.The reason behind the friendship was only for their benefit to them,they use you for all their money needs.If you say your friends,only the true friends get happy for you.But many friends get unhappy and try to get the loan from you.Because they come to know about your winning money.Being a gambler,I will accept the words of friend like I had mentioned.If the true friends ask me quit,surely I do that at the addictions time.Because we know to whom we need to give importance.Most of the gambling addicted people get away from gambling by the words of their own mother.
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