Would you quit gambling for a friend? - page 6.

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Quote from: Oilacris on February 11, 2024, 03:16:01 PM

As a friend then you would really be definitely be having those thoughts that you should be helping your friend but actually no one would be able to help him out but only himself
could do it. When a person do really gets addicted then there's no way that they would be hearing out someones advises even how close you would be on which it would really be something
that will really be just that ignored and they would really be continuing on what they are doing because they would really be sticking out into those interest that they do have in mind.
You would really be having those kind of thoughts that its none others business on how they should really be treating up those things.

We are in control of ourselves and we cannot fully make the decision to stop gambling without consulting other people, including your close friends. I really like friends who care about providing positive motivation to improve their life and financial patterns for the better without the influence of gambling addiction. I have to give appreciation to friends who remind each other to set budget limits for gambling and they have made them aware that gambling is just entertainment so you must be vigilant to avoid becoming addicted to gambling again.

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Quote from: alani123 on February 10, 2024, 07:34:51 PM

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As a friend then it would really be just that right to do so that you should really be that telling him about on the actions that he's been making on which it isnt really that viable anymore or something that do talks about not being right because on the time that you are already spending tons of money with gambling activity then this is a solid indication that you are already addicted or someone who do lose off control when it comes to spending.
It is really just that sad to see for someone who do really loses up their control and ended up on being addicted just because of too much greed and too much interest with gambling.If you do two who have been
having those kind of activity occasionally but he had decided to play on solo and you are tending to quit your gambling session then it wont really be totally get rid into his addiction.
We do know on how it would really be ending up yet most of us wont really be tending to care on what are other people would be saying even if he's your friend.

As a friend then you would really be definitely be having those thoughts that you should be helping your friend but actually no one would be able to help him out but only himself
could do it. When a person do really gets addicted then there's no way that they would be hearing out someones advises even how close you would be on which it would really be something
that will really be just that ignored and they would really be continuing on what they are doing because they would really be sticking out into those interest that they do have in mind.
You would really be having those kind of thoughts that its none others business on how they should really be treating up those things.

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Quote from: alani123 on February 10, 2024, 07:34:51 PM

So I heard a story of some acquaintances that in their friend group, some person really got addicted recently.
At first it was just fun and game, they would sit together and play some slots together in a big screen with some 10€ or so for as much as this would last them with small stake spins. And this is something they would do on big occasions. Only when together as a group and only for big days like birthday parties etc.

But the thing is, unbeknownst to them, one person in their friend group was really compulsive. So in the course of a few months, he became really addicted. He would spend much of his own money from his salary on slots and sports betting, eventually losing most of it regularly every month. Then on nearly every get together he would ask his friends to chip in so they can play slots this time in his account. Every time asking for more significant amounts too.

This guy hasn't caused any trouble to his friends but it's a worrying situation to see him waste most of his salary every month... So now the other guys were contemplating to quit their poker playing hobby because it was really affecting their friend negatively. And they had a somewhat regular get-together to play poker with very small stakes just for the fun of it. It's a petty that they might have to abandon their poker games but to them it's either that or abandoning their friend and worsening his compulsion.

Would you do the same for a friend? Me personally I think I would have just confronted such a friend and told them to seek help instead of me altering my lifestyle for his benefit. If they didn't seek help to the point that it was affecting me I would've just stopped hanging out with them silently I think. A friend would've had to be a real good one to make an exception at least.

As a friend then it would really be just that right to do so that you should really be that telling him about on the actions that he's been making on which it isnt really that viable anymore or something that do talks about not being right because on the time that you are already spending tons of money with gambling activity then this is a solid indication that you are already addicted or someone who do lose off control when it comes to spending.
It is really just that sad to see for someone who do really loses up their control and ended up on being addicted just because of too much greed and too much interest with gambling.If you do two who have been
having those kind of activity occasionally but he had decided to play on solo and you are tending to quit your gambling session then it wont really be totally get rid into his addiction.
We do know on how it would really be ending up yet most of us wont really be tending to care on what are other people would be saying even if he's your friend.

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In my opinion, if you are addicted, it will be difficult to stop if you don't have self-awareness. stop gambling for a friend? in my opinion it doesn't make sense, unless you stop gambling for your own good, because we are the ones who do it, and we have to have good self-control so that there is no bad impact that can happen to other people, because the bad impact of gambling addiction can be It also has an impact on other people if we cannot control ourselves well.

If gambling really has an impact on our friends or other people, then we really have to stop because of course other people don't know anything about the gambling we do ourselves, but if it's a friend, they will definitely give their best, to advise us so we can stop. gambling is good because basically friends are supposed to remind each other of good things, a friend certainly doesn't want bad things to happen to other friends, therefore if there is friendship then they should remind each other.

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nevitably, situations like these are intricately difficult and fraught with. It can be distressing and unnerving to see someone close to you in such agony. The approach to this dilemma is contingent on many aspects such as one’s familiarity with the person, the level of intimacy between them, or personal values but it is also a subjective decision that is primarily dictated by one’s own choice.
Confronting your friends about their gambling addiction and urging them to consult an expert is a kind-hearted action. Taking the step of providing support and resources to friends for their issues can be seen as the beginning of helping them out of difficult circumstances.

If, however, your friend does not answer or refuses to get assistance, and you keep being influenced negatively by their behavior, setting a healthy boundary for yourself might be an option. This may involve less involvement with the friend or curtailing the amount of time spent together. Although taking action for your protection is never easy, it is often needed to keep balance in your life. But one should bear in mind that such things are not always so straightforward and simple; it can be a matter of time as well as introspection to make the right decision. Regardless of what you choose, providing support and empathy to a friend struggling with gambling addiction is an important step in helping them on their recovery journey.

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if it could work as solution yes of course. no doubts.
for a friend this and even more... but can it always work? any situation, any friend? Is this really the solution to adopt?
I'm skeptical that it will work in the long term but happy to be proven wrong.

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Quote from: Lorence.xD on February 11, 2024, 02:24:39 PM

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Quote from: alani123 on February 10, 2024, 07:34:51 PM

This guy hasn't caused any trouble to his friends but it's a worrying situation to see him waste most of his salary every month... -snip-

You are right but such a situation will destroy his life and his friends slowly. I'm guessing your friend isn't married because you haven't told him about his family at all. But I can say that over time he will become more and more broken and it will impact his relationships with his close relatives and people around him.

I'm worried that he has started trying to get into debt to gamble. You may not mention it here because he hasn't done that but one of the bad effects of gambling addiction is that you will become addicted to debt. What would you do if he tried to owe you money?

Tricky question but it should be a no, and if he insisted or threat you like your friendship is on the line, then things would be wrong on a different level. Your task as a friend, although it is not required, is to guide him/her to better life decisions but still, it depends on the individual whether he would follow your suggestions and advices 'coz we cannot for them anyway. Even if he becomes mad, let him be than to be a part of his potential addiction. And if that's the case, try consulting his family about it and convince them to have your friend be checked by professionals for the betterment of his situation.

But going back to the main question, will he really stop if you won't gamble? 'coz if he's really into gambling, he would still do so Your act of stopping, will just lessen the engagement but won't guarantee that his friend would do the same thing on times he's just alone. If he's already at that point that he goes that much with his bets, then he's basically problematic of it. Try talking to him in private and make him aware of things if he's not yet. But again, it will depend on him.

putting the friendship on the line seems like a gambler applying himself.
the friends are still vaguely responsible for this friend to have gotten into this mess. and because this guy is among the friends they play with in their weekend hobby, i think he is worth saving.

all the methods i think should still be tried on him and more tolerance to his behavior to give him the the chance. there is always a Barry in every group of friends. maybe even two Barrys.

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Quote from: alani123 on February 10, 2024, 07:34:51 PM

Would you do the same for a friend?

There are things we can do for friendship especially for childhood friends as it will be sympathetic seeing such a friend going astray due to gambling addiction and you do nothing of much effort to support him out of it. We are friends for a reason and maybe a little form of encouragement and sacrifice could go a long way in bringing him back on track.

Quote from: alani123 on February 10, 2024, 07:34:51 PM

Me personally I think I would have just confronted such a friend and told them to seek help instead of me altering my lifestyle for his benefit. If they didn't seek help to the point that it was affecting me I would've just stopped hanging out with them silently I think.

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There are people that can't on their own help themself and what they just need to get off from whatever problem they are struggling from is just a form of helpful closure from close associates like friends. A true friend won't stop hanging around you just because of your problem you're struggling with, like how do you define that to me that you're only going to hang around with me only when am in a positive situations.

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Quote from: Hanadawa on February 11, 2024, 02:16:30 PM

Quote from: alani123 on February 10, 2024, 07:34:51 PM

This guy hasn't caused any trouble to his friends but it's a worrying situation to see him waste most of his salary every month... -snip-

You are right but such a situation will destroy his life and his friends slowly. I'm guessing your friend isn't married because you haven't told him about his family at all. But I can say that over time he will become more and more broken and it will impact his relationships with his close relatives and people around him.

I'm worried that he has started trying to get into debt to gamble. You may not mention it here because he hasn't done that but one of the bad effects of gambling addiction is that you will become addicted to debt. What would you do if he tried to owe you money?

Tricky question but it should be a no, and if he insisted or threat you like your friendship is on the line, then things would be wrong on a different level. Your task as a friend, although it is not required, is to guide him/her to better life decisions but still, it depends on the individual whether he would follow your suggestions and advices 'coz we cannot for them anyway. Even if he becomes mad, let him be than to be a part of his potential addiction. And if that's the case, try consulting his family about it and convince them to have your friend be checked by professionals for the betterment of his situation.

But going back to the main question, will he really stop if you won't gamble? 'coz if he's really into gambling, he would still do so Your act of stopping, will just lessen the engagement but won't guarantee that his friend would do the same thing on times he's just alone. If he's already at that point that he goes that much with his bets, then he's basically problematic of it. Try talking to him in private and make him aware of things if he's not yet. But again, it will depend on him.

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Quote from: alani123 on February 10, 2024, 07:34:51 PM

Would you do the same for a friend? Me personally I think I would have just confronted such a friend and told them to seek help instead of me altering my lifestyle for his benefit. If they didn't seek help to the point that it was affecting me I would've just stopped hanging out with them silently I think. A friend would've had to be a real good one to make an exception at least.

I would do the same while on his presence. I wouldn't gamble in front of him or talk about my gambling activity anymore to him, because it could work as an encouragement for him to continue gambling, so I would try avoiding this kind of subjects when talking to him. Instead of that, we could talk about another matters and practices which can be potentially good for him to forget gambling and engage himself in more healthy habits, due to his current addiction.

However, my life would continue in the same way when away from this friend. There is no reason to stop gambling because you have an addicted gambler friend. It doesn't mean you are also going to become an addicted one. You just have to be careful with your bets and watch yourself to analyze if you are playing in a responsible and reasonable way.

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Quote from: alani123 on February 10, 2024, 07:34:51 PM

This guy hasn't caused any trouble to his friends but it's a worrying situation to see him waste most of his salary every month... -snip-

You are right but such a situation will destroy his life and his friends slowly. I'm guessing your friend isn't married because you haven't told him about his family at all. But I can say that over time he will become more and more broken and it will impact his relationships with his close relatives and people around him.

I'm worried that he has started trying to get into debt to gamble. You may not mention it here because he hasn't done that but one of the bad effects of gambling addiction is that you will become addicted to debt. What would you do if he tried to owe you money?

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Sometimes we are too busy taking care of other people's life problems but we don't take care of ourselves, including problems that happen to our friends for reasons of being together. and when talking about the problem of gambling addiction, this is a very complex problem and quite difficult to find a way out of, but with encouragement from the people closest to him, be it friends or relatives, it will be a motivation for him to be able to realize his bad behavior in gambling. .

And if in your circle of friends there is someone who is addicted to gambling, then as soon as possible you must be able to make that person aware. Because it is feared that gambling addicts can have a negative impact on your circle of friends, which could be that when your circle of friends does not have strong determination and belief, one by one they will slowly fall into the same problem, namely gambling addiction.

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Quote from: kojektea on February 11, 2024, 11:18:54 AM

if he is a good friend, yes of course I will be willing to make sacrifices with him, I mean if he is someone special to me, but if not I will let him be because it is not an obligation, because sometimes it will cause problems if we reprimand our friends even with the aim of which is good, so why should I bother taking care of my friend's life

And it is only a good friend will advise you to quit gambling, and that will be the reason that he has seen the damages that gambling is causing the person must have gone out of control for the friend to give advice, and if I have any friend that gambling a lot I will just advice them to get a job and leave gambling for the main time because some people don't want even to work again. It is not as if they are winning. and I don't mind if my friend gets angry just because of the advice I wanted to give him about something that will help his life, and one of the solutions is if the person should get a job then the person will even find if it more difficult to have time to gamble, but if the person is idle then expect anything from such people.

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Nope.
I'd tell him that we're all responsible for our actions and if you think that the people surrounding you is influencing you badly, then you have to keep yourself away. I may give some help and I'd personally go away and that's going to be my contribution and a few words of encouragement that he shouldn't go for more when he's being affected badly with his gambling habits. There is no other people to blame for that and what he's experiencing but himself. That's all he needs to know so that he will be knocking himself with the reality that it's not doing him good.

Quote from: JoyMarsha on February 11, 2024, 01:00:47 PM

What I might do is speak with him or her about how to pursue the gambling path and become less addicted to it rather than gambling their salary each month, which would ultimately put them in poverty (not being able to provide for their family).

Yeah, that's already enough. Giving him the advise and words on what he must do is our part on his journey if he wants to get out of addiction. But you know that it's the hardest part when someone gambles and becomes addicted eventually. If he likes what he's doing, it's okay but make sure that he's controlling his spending habits and he's not going to put it all in with every single bet that he makes and don't affect his other important errands daily.

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Quote from: alani123 on February 10, 2024, 07:34:51 PM

Would you do the same for a friend? Me personally I think I would have just confronted such a friend and told them to seek help instead of me altering my lifestyle for his benefit. If they didn't seek help to the point that it was affecting me I would've just stopped hanging out with them silently I think. A friend would've had to be a real good one to make an exception at least.

If a similar problem happened to my group of friends, we would definitely have to take a break from our games of poker and gambling. The second stage is to provide professional help for our friend until he returns to his previous state and overcomes this problem.If the adaptation period had taken more than six months, we would have continued to play, but in secret from our friend so as not to provoke him, and we would have kept our games secret. It seems to me that friends should meet and help their friends who find themselves in such a situation.

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Quote from: kojektea on February 11, 2024, 11:18:54 AM

if he is a good friend, yes of course I will be willing to make sacrifices with him, I mean if he is someone special to me, but if not I will let him be because it is not an obligation, because sometimes it will cause problems if we reprimand our friends even with the aim of which is good, so why should I bother taking care of my friend's life

I don`t think it is that easy to quit because of a friend. What if you are making good funds? What if you always have fun when you gamble? What if gambling is your only source of happiness? Can you just give that away because of a friend? Does quitting solve the problem? I`m not sure you can.

Some persons make good funds from gambling so it is even difficult for them to stop because it is a profitable venture for them not to talk of quitting because of someone`s recklessness. There are better ways to help out and not stop. What if you stop and he continues? Has the problem been solved? Of course not.

I know some people who are always gambling because of the fun and the happiness they derive when they gamble. I don't think if you fall into this category you can trade your happiness for a friend. Not possible. That will be displeasing yourself to please a friend.

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In my case I would first talk to him and tell him to stop playing immediately and seek medical help and I would also tell him that I would immediately stop playing for an indefinite period of time. This is to show him that it is possible to stop playing and that if he cannot stop playing then he realizes that he is sick and needs help, he alone will look at himself and look at me and realize that I stopped playing because I am not addicted to games, while he cannot stop playing because he is sick. Even though I know that when I stop playing it won't solve his problem immediately, I will still stop playing because in the same way that my friend became addicted to games, I can also become addicted to games, so I need to I also stop gambling for a while to see if I too have become addicted to gambling

When some time passes without me playing and I don't have any compulsive desire to play, then I'll go back to playing but with more moderation, because I've seen the price you pay when someone plays excessively, that is, that friend of mine who became addicted to games, it also gave me the idea that gambling can be much more dangerous than one imagines, whenever something sad happens, we should use that sad event as a reference point in which we should not make the same mistake, I have done that in my life. I already had relatives who were addicts, so I know very well how destructive addiction is, which is why I don't do anything that led my relatives to become addicts. We can often think that if we stop playing because someone we know became addicted, we would be giving up things we play because of other people, but I think people shouldn't think that way.

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I may not quit but I would certainly tell him to not overdo things and just take it slow. I'll also remind him that it's better to always have some extra money for other things rather than use it on something that has a high chance to lose the money and not gain anything. There are tons of things that I can do for a friend which don't warrant me to stop doing what I need to do. He just have to see that I'm trying to help him get out of the mud that he found himself into.

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There are certain things I can call a quit for a friend's happiness(although that depends on personal relationship) and there are things I don't intend to quit because of a friend.
I wouldn't want to give up gambling because of a friend's addiction. What I might do is speak with him or her about how to pursue the gambling path and become less addicted to it rather than gambling their salary each month, which would ultimately put them in poverty (not being able to provide for their family).

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Quote from: alani123 on February 10, 2024, 07:34:51 PM

Would you do the same for a friend?

I have an option since why would I quit gambling when I can do my gambling activities without that friend's knowledge? I would participate and support the plan of my colleagues to stop the group poker game just to show that we are concerned about our friend's problem with gambling. But when it comes to private gambling activity, I won't let my friend's situation affect my gambling activity since I have the right to keep things private from them. As long as I know I am doing fine, I won't quit gambling.

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I think I would have just confronted such a friend and told them to seek help instead of me altering my lifestyle for his benefit.

I do not think there is a need for confrontation and say what you have stated. It might go wrong and might be misunderstood by the friend and get offended. I think it is better to just keep quiet about our gambling activity and do our best to not let them know about it.

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