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Quote from: Weawant on February 16, 2024, 06:23:47 PM

Whenever situations with gambling addictions get to this point nits most productive when the service of a professional is involved because only that way can such person get help quick enough to be able to quit if they really want to quit because some persons only attempt quitting and then go on to still continue with their gambling habits.

If you are trying to help your friend by yourself you my likely not succeed in helping him or her out for their addiction and then even with the service of a professional they will still need to first agree to wanting to quit, that way what ever Is required of them to do so they can quit they will do but when they are not fully convinced to quit then they will most definitely continue to find away around their addiction and still continue in it despite every effort to helping them quit .

Those who are gambling tried to stop gambling a lot of time and all of the time they became successful for a little time. After a short period of time they start again upon the fund collection.

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Friendship is about give and take, so it depends on what sort of friend he is to me and how long we have been friends for. If it's a casual friend who hasn't done anything special for me or we don't have a very strong bond, I would rather ask them to seek help instead of disturbing the activities that I enjoy and have no issues with, but if it's a close and dear friend who has been with me for many years and we share a strong bond, I can easily give the sacrifice for him if it helps him get away from the addiction.

Closing down the gambling activities when he is around wouldn't be a complete solution, in my opinion, because when he is alone and isn't around us anymore, he can still gamble since there is no one to stop him from doing that. So it's better if the friends help the guy instead of just not gambling in front of him.

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Quote from: Weawant on February 16, 2024, 06:23:47 PM

Quote from: goaldigger on February 16, 2024, 03:24:13 AM

We have limitations here, and we can only tell what is good and what is right, and your addicted friend will still be the one to decide for his/her own benefit. Also you have to set boundaries because your friend might get offended if you tell him to stop gambling, if that friend is still listening to you then better to suggest to seek professional help because you know to yourself that you are not capable to help him, especially on dealing with his emotions psychologically.

Whenever situations with gambling addictions get to this point nits most productive when the service of a professional is involved because only that way can such person get help quick enough to be able to quit if they really want to quit because some persons only attempt quitting and then go on to still continue with their gambling habits.

If you are trying to help your friend by yourself you my likely not succeed in helping him or her out for their addiction and then even with the service of a professional they will still need to first agree to wanting to quit, that way what ever Is required of them to do so they can quit they will do but when they are not fully convinced to quit then they will most definitely continue to find away around their addiction and still continue in it despite every effort to helping them quit .

Whoever is or will take or handle the healing of the addict's problem, still need to apply some patience and kindness. The healing as usual takes lots of time. However, if he tries to help his friend without the assistance of a therapist. He could be getting the whole process so wrong. Due to the fact that the professionals have some simple ways, known by few people, of recovering the thoughts and brains of the addicted person. A friend can get aggressive, in as much as being angry of his addicted friend not responding or listening to their advice. These people detest advice like a plague. What they are doing is right, in their jurisdiction. Hence, it's not meant to be the complete duty of the addict's friend to heal him, they'll also need help from a therapist. What is most important is that the addict doesn't get neglected or being left behind.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on February 17, 2024, 06:57:07 AM

Quote from: Westinhome on February 16, 2024, 05:47:24 PM

The true friends alone control us in all the situations,the O.P was in the strongest belief of the true friends can control the gambling addicted person.But the gamblers who get addicted will not accept the words of their own parents.So how they manage the words of their parents,they can only manage the gambling addiction after they start to earn the money from the gambling site.Then they can able to recover their loss in the gambling site,the gambling addicted person only get recovered from their mental condition after they recover of the gambling loss.So true friends can help the gamblers when they need of money at the time of gambling loss.

A true friend will help friends who have problems and if a friend has a gambling addiction, a true friend will come to his aid and try to help cure his gambling addiction even though it is difficult. A true friend will not leave his friend alone to experience gambling addiction because those who are addicted to gambling really need friends to share it with. Maybe there should be other help apart from real friends to help cure his gambling addiction so that the addict knows that he is not alone in struggling to cure his gambling addiction. But it all depends on the gambling addict to be able to open himself to the presence of other people who want to help him cure his gambling addiction.

Being present isn't enough; action is. When a friend is struggling, you don't just listen. Your hands get soiled. Intervention? Yes. Assistance for professionals? Double yes. It's about directing them to resources that matter, not babysitting them. Surprise: They're not the only ones who must open up. We must make them feel safe. Trust, accountability, and occasional tough love. Yes, they must recover, but our involvement is important. We're reality checkers and supporters, not simply spectators

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Quote from: Weawant on February 16, 2024, 06:23:47 PM

Quote from: goaldigger on February 16, 2024, 03:24:13 AM

We have limitations here, and we can only tell what is good and what is right, and your addicted friend will still be the one to decide for his/her own benefit. Also you have to set boundaries because your friend might get offended if you tell him to stop gambling, if that friend is still listening to you then better to suggest to seek professional help because you know to yourself that you are not capable to help him, especially on dealing with his emotions psychologically.

Whenever situations with gambling addictions get to this point nits most productive when the service of a professional is involved because only that way can such person get help quick enough to be able to quit if they really want to quit because some persons only attempt quitting and then go on to still continue with their gambling habits.

If you are trying to help your friend by yourself you my likely not succeed in helping him or her out for their addiction and then even with the service of a professional they will still need to first agree to wanting to quit, that way what ever Is required of them to do so they can quit they will do but when they are not fully convinced to quit then they will most definitely continue to find away around their addiction and still continue in it despite every effort to helping them quit .

The best thing that you can do in this situation is always to keep your doors open whenever your friend needs it.

As someone who has personally experienced gambling addiction, it will take more than professional help for the addicted person to get help. The most essential and crucial step towards recovery is when they admit to themselves that they are addicted and they decide to change for the better. Without these two (2) factors, professional help may be inefficient as they are most likely to experience recurrence from their habits.

Always keep your doors open when your friend reaches out to you. If they decide to change and to commit in quitting, give your 101% support. Sometimes, these friends already know what to do but they just lack the courage to initiate it. Show them that commitment that you also want to help them and they will definitely be one step closer to recovery.

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Quote from: mammusu on February 16, 2024, 07:12:06 PM

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Doing things on repetitive manner or something that you do already do on everyday then this is a solid sign that you are making it as a habit and on the time that habits become that a main
thing into your daily routine plus having those huge spending and putting up focus then this is where we can say that it is really that forming such addiction. Things becomes messy on the time that you would be having those impulsive spending through it and knowing gambling that it could bring out you from riches to homeless then this is something that you should really be careful with.
Quitting gambling just for your friend? It would really be that depending on what kind of type of friend you are. Cheesy

Those are some important points about habits, addiction, and the role of friends in addressing gambling issues. Indeed, habits can easily become ingrained in our daily routines, and when those habits involve excessive spending and a focus on activities like gambling, it can escalate into addiction. Impulsive spending, especially in the context of gambling where the outcomes can be financially devastating, is a red flag that requires careful consideration.

The idea of quitting gambling for the sake of a friend is actually a good situation to have more motive quiting gambling, because gambling would be less joy when the one you share joy in gambling is not there anymore. True friends often look out for each other's well-being and may offer support and encouragement to address harmful behaviors like gambling addiction. It needs to be mindful of the impact of gambling on life.

I understand your behaviors and addiction perspective. You can get into a routine where gambling is just part of the day. However, your warning about impulsive spending touched home. It a wake-up call that things are falling apart.

What about quitting gambling because a friend does? Yes, solid. It shows how much we affect each other. Though rare, these friendships are vital. They reflect our behaviors and show the truth we neglect. Without a friend to share the excitement, quitting gambling may be the push needed to reassess priorities. True friendship is about wanting the best for one other, not just gambling highs.

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Quote from: Westinhome on February 16, 2024, 05:47:24 PM

The true friends alone control us in all the situations,the O.P was in the strongest belief of the true friends can control the gambling addicted person.But the gamblers who get addicted will not accept the words of their own parents.So how they manage the words of their parents,they can only manage the gambling addiction after they start to earn the money from the gambling site.Then they can able to recover their loss in the gambling site,the gambling addicted person only get recovered from their mental condition after they recover of the gambling loss.So true friends can help the gamblers when they need of money at the time of gambling loss.

A true friend will help friends who have problems and if a friend has a gambling addiction, a true friend will come to his aid and try to help cure his gambling addiction even though it is difficult. A true friend will not leave his friend alone to experience gambling addiction because those who are addicted to gambling really need friends to share it with. Maybe there should be other help apart from real friends to help cure his gambling addiction so that the addict knows that he is not alone in struggling to cure his gambling addiction. But it all depends on the gambling addict to be able to open himself to the presence of other people who want to help him cure his gambling addiction.

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Quote from: alani123 on February 10, 2024, 07:34:51 PM

So I heard a story of some acquaintances that in their friend group, some person really got addicted recently.

Gambling addiction doesn't just occur suddenly and recently. It happens over a period of time - days, months, years, decades. It process is just like a butterfly metamorphosing.

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This guy hasn't caused any trouble to his friends but it's a worrying situation to see him waste most of his salary every month... So now the other guys were contemplating to quit their poker playing hobby because it was really affecting their friend negatively. And they had a somewhat regular get-together to play poker with very small stakes just for the fun of it. It's a petty that they might have to abandon their poker games but to them it's either that or abandoning their friend and worsening his compulsion.

The best way to get their friend help is not for them to quit gambling because they would not be doing it of their freewill and they going to regret it later. Rather going with their friend to a gamblers meeting. Getting them the professional help that they need and funding it as best as they can.

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Quote from: Oilacris on February 16, 2024, 05:43:56 PM

Quote from: maydna on February 16, 2024, 05:34:49 PM

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Doing things on repetitive manner or something that you do already do on everyday then this is a solid sign that you are making it as a habit and on the time that habits become that a main
thing into your daily routine plus having those huge spending and putting up focus then this is where we can say that it is really that forming such addiction. Things becomes messy on the time that you would be having those impulsive spending through it and knowing gambling that it could bring out you from riches to homeless then this is something that you should really be careful with.
Quitting gambling just for your friend? It would really be that depending on what kind of type of friend you are. Cheesy

Those are some important points about habits, addiction, and the role of friends in addressing gambling issues. Indeed, habits can easily become ingrained in our daily routines, and when those habits involve excessive spending and a focus on activities like gambling, it can escalate into addiction. Impulsive spending, especially in the context of gambling where the outcomes can be financially devastating, is a red flag that requires careful consideration.

The idea of quitting gambling for the sake of a friend is actually a good situation to have more motive quiting gambling, because gambling would be less joy when the one you share joy in gambling is not there anymore. True friends often look out for each other's well-being and may offer support and encouragement to address harmful behaviors like gambling addiction. It needs to be mindful of the impact of gambling on life.

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Personally, ife quitting guarantees that the friend will effectively drop his gambling addiction and push for rehabilitation and recovery then I’m all for it. Just puzzled over the idea of how me quitting could help the addicted friend to recover from gambling addiction when at this point he needs less of a support and more of real assistance from professionals in this field. That means him getting the treatment he needs and deserves is even more important than the moral support that us quitting would contribute into his situation. If anything I feel like our quitting to the gambling schedules that we do on a weekly basis (based on your story) is less of a help to your friend who’s addicted to gambling and more of a way to fool ourselves into thinking that we’re absolved of the guilt of letting in our friend into the gambling world.

So yeah, I can see the plan’s success in theory but rarely do we have friends that are ideal as what we envision in our studies so to account for the margin of reality.

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Quote from: gunhell16 on February 16, 2024, 05:20:19 AM

A true friend is only there by our side when he knows he needs to remind you if he sees that things are not going well with us. And that thing is to give and make us feel truly blessed.

A friend cannot dictate to a friend who is also close to him, but only to feel true concern for a friend who is considered a friend. So we still have the final decision to make if we follow the advice of a friend of ours.

It's true, apart from your family, no one will sympathize with you but your friends. Your friend will wake you up to the truth, he is the only one who will tell you what you really feel and what is happening to you, your friend is also the only one who will tell you that what you are doing is bad. So if you have a friend like this, he's just concerned about you, don't hurt him because it's like he's treating you like a brother. It's good to have a friend like this. Don't leave or avoid this kind of friend because they are the only ones who really care about you.

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Quote from: goaldigger on February 16, 2024, 03:24:13 AM

We have limitations here, and we can only tell what is good and what is right, and your addicted friend will still be the one to decide for his/her own benefit. Also you have to set boundaries because your friend might get offended if you tell him to stop gambling, if that friend is still listening to you then better to suggest to seek professional help because you know to yourself that you are not capable to help him, especially on dealing with his emotions psychologically.

Whenever situations with gambling addictions get to this point nits most productive when the service of a professional is involved because only that way can such person get help quick enough to be able to quit if they really want to quit because some persons only attempt quitting and then go on to still continue with their gambling habits.

If you are trying to help your friend by yourself you my likely not succeed in helping him or her out for their addiction and then even with the service of a professional they will still need to first agree to wanting to quit, that way what ever Is required of them to do so they can quit they will do but when they are not fully convinced to quit then they will most definitely continue to find away around their addiction and still continue in it despite every effort to helping them quit .

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Quote from: Onyeeze on February 16, 2024, 05:42:41 PM

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Of course I stop if it's for my friend's good, but that's not necessary because our friend can of course access it at any time if he wants, it requires close supervision, only self-awareness is the most important thing.

We have limitations here, and we can only tell what is good and what is right, and your addicted friend will still be the one to decide for his/her own benefit. Also you have to set boundaries because your friend might get offended if you tell him to stop gambling, if that friend is still listening to you then better to suggest to seek professional help because you know to yourself that you are not capable to help him, especially on dealing with his emotions psychologically.

When you outlined your point do your friends concerning quitting gambling and your point is a genuine point that will have and the contribute meaningful For his life I believe that it will not have any negative thinking towards you or concerning you because only understand but you mean we'll for him, and Secondly I understand but when you are addicted in gambling theirs nothing someone will tell you concerning gambling that you will pick more interest in gambling, so therefore what I want you to understand is the rudiments of gambling and what makes people to be addicted

I've read different suggestions from you guys concerning the possibility of quiting gambling because of a friend and I will give my honest opinion on this matter. If quiting gambling is the only two help my friend who's probably addicted to gambling or will get addicted to gambling if I don't stop gambling then I'm definitely gonna quit because before I consider someone my friend, I already see that person as someone I can do anything within my strength to protect.
However, I can still be engaging in online gambling whenever I'm out of his sight but definitely not do anything that's gambling related when he's anywhere close to me because I want him to succeed in life

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Quote from: alani123 on February 10, 2024, 07:34:51 PM

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Would you do the same for a friend? Me personally I think I would have just confronted such a friend and told them to seek help instead of me altering my lifestyle for his benefit. If they didn't seek help to the point that it was affecting me I would've just stopped hanging out with them silently I think. A friend would've had to be a real good one to make an exception at least.

If this is a real friend and not a colleague at parties, then why not? I’m not ready to leave a friend because of some problem (which may be completely solvable), and by the way, you didn’t tell in the story, but I can assume that those friends were connected not only by playing poker, right?
It is clear that if my friend has problems with alcohol, then I will not drink when he is with me. This seems logical to me. Same with gambling. It’s clear that he must somehow solve his problems, but I don’t think it would be a big deal for me to help him a little with this.

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Quote from: ethereumhunter on February 16, 2024, 08:26:55 AM

True friends will always accompany us through thick and thin because they are sincere to us and vice versa. We have to appreciate our friends who always advise us for our good and we should also be able to do the same as them. At least they try to help us and are always willing to listen to what we complain about. If they can help, they will help us and always accompany us so we don't feel alone in solving the problem. We must also be able to do the same when our friends experience problems so that our friendship will be even closer because that is what true friends are like.

The true friends alone control us in all the situations,the O.P was in the strongest belief of the true friends can control the gambling addicted person.But the gamblers who get addicted will not accept the words of their own parents.So how they manage the words of their parents,they can only manage the gambling addiction after they start to earn the money from the gambling site.Then they can able to recover their loss in the gambling site,the gambling addicted person only get recovered from their mental condition after they recover of the gambling loss.So true friends can help the gamblers when they need of money at the time of gambling loss.

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Quote from: maydna on February 16, 2024, 05:34:49 PM

Quote from: Negotiation on February 16, 2024, 10:25:07 AM

This habit thing becomes an addiction at some point. If following the actions of friends every day will become a habit then even a conscious person will lose his control and it is not possible to go away even if he wants to then life is directed in a bad direction. It's better to walk away from work if it seems risky to hang out with a friend. You have to change your mindset there is no guarantee that you will always find a friend. If you can control yourself there is less chance of getting addicted to bad habits of friends.

When it becomes a habit, it can also make a person addicted to gambling, and he will forget what he did before he was introduced to gambling. But after getting to know gambling and even starting to gamble too often, it started to change and started to lead to bad things that could have an impact on his life. When one or several friends have started to experience addiction, and you cannot advise them, you should immediately leave them because it is feared that you will become addicted to gambling and will not be able to get out of gambling easily. And yes, we have to change your mindset if you see that your gambling habit is starting to turn into a bad habit, and don't let yourself fall deeper into gambling because it's not worth it.

Doing things on repetitive manner or something that you do already do on everyday then this is a solid sign that you are making it as a habit and on the time that habits become that a main
thing into your daily routine plus having those huge spending and putting up focus then this is where we can say that it is really that forming such addiction. Things becomes messy on the time that you would be having those impulsive spending through it and knowing gambling that it could bring out you from riches to homeless then this is something that you should really be careful with.
Quitting gambling just for your friend? It would really be that depending on what kind of type of friend you are. Cheesy

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Quote from: goaldigger on February 16, 2024, 03:24:13 AM

Quote from: asyakashi on February 14, 2024, 03:13:03 PM

Of course I stop if it's for my friend's good, but that's not necessary because our friend can of course access it at any time if he wants, it requires close supervision, only self-awareness is the most important thing.

We have limitations here, and we can only tell what is good and what is right, and your addicted friend will still be the one to decide for his/her own benefit. Also you have to set boundaries because your friend might get offended if you tell him to stop gambling, if that friend is still listening to you then better to suggest to seek professional help because you know to yourself that you are not capable to help him, especially on dealing with his emotions psychologically.

When you outlined your point do your friends concerning quitting gambling and your point is a genuine point that will have and the contribute meaningful For his life I believe that it will not have any negative thinking towards you or concerning you because only understand but you mean we'll for him, and Secondly I understand but when you are addicted in gambling theirs nothing someone will tell you concerning gambling that you will pick more interest in gambling, so therefore what I want you to understand is the rudiments of gambling and what makes people to be addicted

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Quote from: Negotiation on February 16, 2024, 10:25:07 AM

This habit thing becomes an addiction at some point. If following the actions of friends every day will become a habit then even a conscious person will lose his control and it is not possible to go away even if he wants to then life is directed in a bad direction. It's better to walk away from work if it seems risky to hang out with a friend. You have to change your mindset there is no guarantee that you will always find a friend. If you can control yourself there is less chance of getting addicted to bad habits of friends.

When it becomes a habit, it can also make a person addicted to gambling, and he will forget what he did before he was introduced to gambling. But after getting to know gambling and even starting to gamble too often, it started to change and started to lead to bad things that could have an impact on his life. When one or several friends have started to experience addiction, and you cannot advise them, you should immediately leave them because it is feared that you will become addicted to gambling and will not be able to get out of gambling easily. And yes, we have to change your mindset if you see that your gambling habit is starting to turn into a bad habit, and don't let yourself fall deeper into gambling because it's not worth it.

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Quote from: summonerrk on February 16, 2024, 08:19:41 AM

Interest in gambling spreads quite quickly in groups of friends. Everyone strives to brag about their successes, to show how successful they are. But no one likes to talk about their expenses. I've seen those who lost a lot but kept it a secret. And let these people earn a lot, but later spending on gambling seriously ruined their lives.
I believe that you should try not to gamble periodically, because periodicity always makes any activity a habit. And unfortunately, there is someone with a weak character in every party.

It depends on who it is; I've even seen people bragging about how much they lost in their last gambling session. Yeah, there are people who're that dumb and feel like it's something to brag about. But you're right; the majority doesn't reveal how much or how frequently they lose but only presents their winnings. Gambling periodically is fine if you're aware of how much you're spending.

Quote from: Blitzboy on February 16, 2024, 12:23:18 PM

I understand - its hard. Seeing a friend spiral is hard, but I believe in balance. When done safely, gambling may be fun. Rather than cutting off something people appreciate, establish lines when necessary. If I can restrict my gambling, excellent, but I must remain watchful. Setting boundaries, especially for vulnerable people, is whats needed, not quitting. Instead of stopping the activity, we should change how we use it in delicate situations.

Helping our friend is vital. Professional help and a supportive environment are essential. Gamble properly without triggering or enabling his compulsive behavior. A delicate balance between personal freedom and collective duty is needed.

It is certainly not the most pleasant thing to see. Moreover, there isn't any standard or designated approach on how to handle something like this because everyone is different and their reactions are too.

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Quote from: Negotiation on February 16, 2024, 10:25:07 AM

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Quote from: asyakashi on February 14, 2024, 03:13:03 PM

Of course I stop if it's for my friend's good, but that's not necessary because our friend can of course access it at any time if he wants, it requires close supervision, only self-awareness is the most important thing.

That's the point, though one or the whole group of friends become ready to sacrifice their game nights and gambling activities when they are together for the friend who is vulnerable to gambling and might get addicted if they do it more, it wouldn't make any sense or change his mindset when his friends aren't around anymore because they definitely don't live together and the person getting addicted to gambling will still have access to gambling when he is alone.

So it's not about what friends do when they are together, but it's about how self-aware each one of them is so that no matter what they do when they have a get-together, they should have enough patience and self-control they don't make a habit out of the activities they have done together as friends.

This habit thing becomes an addiction at some point. If following the actions of friends every day will become a habit then even a conscious person will lose his control and it is not possible to go away even if he wants to then life is directed in a bad direction. It's better to walk away from work if it seems risky to hang out with a friend. You have to change your mindset there is no guarantee that you will always find a friend. If you can control yourself there is less chance of getting addicted to bad habits of friends.

The other friends of such an addict only need to stay careful not to end up like him. But that shouldn't stop them from helping him out of the trouble. As they were both in it together. He got into the trouble gambling with them, why then will they forget about him when he's got addicted. Even if they are not interested in gambling with the addict anymore, which is a great choice. Neglecting him is a wrong, idea. He's close to them and will easily listen to their advice. That's how to treat an addicted gambler. No error in trial, running from the addict will only make him to get worse in the addiction. And he'd also going to feel it that his friends don't care about him anymore, or maybe wonder about why his friends doesn't want to gamble with him anymore. Stopping to gamble because of him, can only make him to think of why his friends are stopping, but if he's opportune to find other gamblers, he'll definitely forget about his friends, and continue his gambling lifestyle. However, keeping in touch with him is the right choice, than just stopping and moving away from him.

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