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legendary
Activity: 1974
Merit: 1010
February 21, 2015, 01:26:14 PM
What's the problem?

Dan Metcalf has a history of financial problems which he still refuses to discuss publicly.  Regardless of this, he and his team still encouraged investors to invest in and use his financial products.  All of the relevant info was not put forth.  People lost money.  If you have a personal documented history of financial problems then you have no business organizing and releasing financial products to the general public.



Nice strawman, but that's not the point I was addressing.  Why are you changing the topic?  I was addressing the change of terminology which you painted to be unethical acting on Dan's behalf, when really, it's just due diligence.  Expected and encouraged.

It is quite clear what your intentions here are.  

You are welcome to do some research.  Go back into my post history and you will see that I suggested much of this due diligence.  This was before I understood the seriousness of Dan's financial situation.

Submit a complaint about Dan Metcalf, Melanie Metcalf, atcsecure, XCurrency, ATC Solutions LLC (ID # 001068271), BlockNet Inc. (ID # 001152206)

Consider referencing liens
MA #0440 9000 4813
MA #0440 9000 5922
Federal #981157214


Although this site appears to only cover complaints on IRS agents or people impersonating IRS agents, I have been assured that this is the correct place to file a complaint thru the online form.

http://www.treasury.gov/tigta/contact_report.shtml


[EDIT]  Out of their jurisdiction.  Suggested speaking to IRS Criminal Investigation 1-800-829-0433

Also...

http://www.sec.state.ma.us/InvestorComplaint/compidx.aspx
hero member
Activity: 616
Merit: 500
February 21, 2015, 01:22:39 PM
What's the problem?

Dan Metcalf has a history of financial problems which he still refuses to discuss publicly.  Regardless of this, he and his team still encouraged investors to invest in and use his financial products.  All of the relevant info was not put forth.  People lost money.  If you have a personal documented history of financial problems then you have no business organizing and releasing financial products to the general public.



Nice strawman, but that's not the point I was addressing.  Why are you changing the topic?  I was addressing the change of terminology which you painted to be unethical acting on Dan's behalf, when really, it's just due diligence.  Expected and encouraged.

It is quite clear what your intentions here are.  
legendary
Activity: 1974
Merit: 1010
February 21, 2015, 01:21:25 PM
Let's get the facts straight here:

URSAY is just the troll "rdfkdji" who got burned by Jasin Lee's ASIC project and although Jasin was never part of XC's original team, by XC's mere association and acceptance of Jasin's help towards XC (temporarily), URSAY has been spending significant effort to smear Dan's name and his projects.


URSAY = rdfkdji = unicornfarts = danisdead = isdandone and several other troll accounts.  If you've followed XC or Block's threads at all, these names should be immediately recognizable.  And yes, they are all accounts owned by URSAY.

Ha.  Nice try.  I am none of those accounts.  But I will let you play.  I won't delete your post because I play fair.  Notice I didn't use the word FUD or troll?  I don't divert from the real issues and you are welcome to your opinion.  Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1974
Merit: 1010
February 21, 2015, 01:18:38 PM
What's the problem?

Dan Metcalf has a history of financial problems which he still refuses to discuss publicly.  Regardless of this, he and his team still encouraged investors to invest in and use his financial products.  All of the relevant info was not put forth.  People lost money.  If you have a personal documented history of financial problems then you have no business organizing and releasing financial products to the general public.

Submit a complaint about Dan Metcalf, Melanie Metcalf, atcsecure, ATC Solutions LLC (ID # 001068271), BlockNet Inc. (ID # 001152206)

Consider referencing liens
MA #0440 9000 4813
MA #0440 9000 5922
Federal #981157214


Although this site appears to only cover complaints on IRS agents or people impersonating IRS agents, I have been assured that this is the correct place to file a complaint thru the online form.

http://www.treasury.gov/tigta/contact_report.shtml


[EDIT]  Out of their jurisdiction.  Suggested speaking to IRS Criminal Investigation 1-800-829-0433

Also...

http://www.sec.state.ma.us/InvestorComplaint/compidx.aspx
full member
Activity: 226
Merit: 100
February 21, 2015, 01:14:33 PM
Let's get the facts straight here:

URSAY is just the troll "rdfkdji" who got burned by Jasin Lee's ASIC project and although Jasin was never part of XC's original team, by XC's mere association and acceptance of Jasin's help towards XC (temporarily), URSAY has been spending significant effort to smear Dan's name and his projects.


URSAY = rdfkdji = unicornfarts = danisdead = isdandone and several other troll accounts.  If you've followed XC or Block's threads at all, these names should be immediately recognizable.  And yes, they are all accounts owned by URSAY.
hero member
Activity: 616
Merit: 500
February 21, 2015, 12:53:47 PM
2/1/2011
Daniel R. Metcalf
Tax lien (MA) #0440 9000 4813
$14,039.46

1/2/2013
Daniel R. Metcalf
Tax lien (MA) #0440 9000 5922
$4,485.43

2/4/2014
Daniel R. Metcalf
Tax lien (federal) serial #981157214
$67,531.52

5/8/2014
XCurrency launched

10/15/2014
BlockNet announced




Virtual tokens are not securities, your NOT AN INVESTOR IN A COMPANY, you don't receive shares, voting rights or dividends

YOUR NOT BUYING SHARES OF A COMPANY, it is not a security



You understand that BlockNet Inc is US C-CORPORATION, you understand how corporate law works?




It's changed from IPO to ICO to ITO.  Coins to shares to tokens.  Which is it today Dan?

Other terminology may have been used when BlockNET was just an idea / concept... (I'm not too sure, I'd have to go back and look).  But I do recall that when BlockNET officially launched and they made official announcements, it was always ITO and tokens.

Any change in terminology (from idea to official launch) was undoubtedly due to increased awareness of legal ramifications... but this is to be expected and encouraged.  It's called due diligence.  What's the problem?
legendary
Activity: 1974
Merit: 1010
February 21, 2015, 12:11:48 PM

Your clearly missing the fact the ITO was never a security or presented as one, no shares were issued during the ITO, it was crowd funding for the software

You might forget that I was one of the concerned individuals which suggested you reconsider your terminology to it's current version.  Your words and figures have changed over time to fit your perceived needs of the moment.


No, now your just lying.... but since you think that LTC or BTC or XC is a financial security or financial instrument , I really don't care

How am I lying Dan?  You really should be careful about calling someone a liar.  Regardless, can you be more specific?  What information would you like me to back up?  Are you asking me to post more facts about your operations?

Submit a complaint about Dan Metcalf, atcsecure, Melanie Metcalf, ATC Solutions LLC (ID # 001068271), BlockNet Inc. (ID # 001152206)

Consider referencing liens
MA #0440 9000 4813
MA #0440 9000 5922
Federal #981157214


Although this site appears to only cover complaints on IRS agents or people impersonating IRS agents, I have been assured that this is the correct place to file a complaint thru the online form.

http://www.treasury.gov/tigta/contact_report.shtml


[EDIT]  Out of their jurisdiction.  Suggested speaking to IRS Criminal Investigation 1-800-829-0433

Also...

http://www.sec.state.ma.us/InvestorComplaint/compidx.aspx
legendary
Activity: 1974
Merit: 1010
February 21, 2015, 12:07:29 PM
2/1/2011
Daniel R. Metcalf
Tax lien (MA) #0440 9000 4813
$14,039.46

1/2/2013
Daniel R. Metcalf
Tax lien (MA) #0440 9000 5922
$4,485.43

2/4/2014
Daniel R. Metcalf
Tax lien (federal) serial #981157214
$67,531.52

5/8/2014
XCurrency launched

10/15/2014
BlockNet announced




Virtual tokens are not securities, your NOT AN INVESTOR IN A COMPANY, you don't receive shares, voting rights or dividends

YOUR NOT BUYING SHARES OF A COMPANY, it is not a security



You understand that BlockNet Inc is US C-CORPORATION, you understand how corporate law works?




It's changed from IPO to ICO to ITO.  Coins to shares to tokens.  Which is it today Dan?
hero member
Activity: 756
Merit: 500
February 21, 2015, 10:43:36 AM

Your clearly missing the fact the ITO was never a security or presented as one, no shares were issued during the ITO, it was crowd funding for the software

You might forget that I was one of the concerned individuals which suggested you reconsider your terminology to it's current version.  Your words and figures have changed over time to fit your perceived needs of the moment.


No, now your just lying.... but since you think that LTC or BTC or XC is a financial security or financial instrument , I really don't care
hero member
Activity: 756
Merit: 500
February 21, 2015, 10:43:15 AM
2/1/2011
Daniel R. Metcalf
Tax lien (MA) #0440 9000 4813
$14,039.46

1/2/2013
Daniel R. Metcalf
Tax lien (MA) #0440 9000 5922
$4,485.43

2/4/2014
Daniel R. Metcalf
Tax lien (federal) serial #981157214
$67,531.52

5/8/2014
XCurrency launched

10/15/2014
BlockNet announced




Virtual tokens are not securities, your NOT AN INVESTOR IN A COMPANY, you don't receive shares, voting rights or dividends

YOUR NOT BUYING SHARES OF A COMPANY, it is not a security



You understand that BlockNet Inc is US C-CORPORATION, you understand how corporate law works?


legendary
Activity: 1974
Merit: 1010
February 21, 2015, 01:44:50 AM
2/1/2011
Daniel R. Metcalf
Tax lien (MA) #0440 9000 4813
$14,039.46

1/2/2013
Daniel R. Metcalf
Tax lien (MA) #0440 9000 5922
$4,485.43

2/4/2014
Daniel R. Metcalf
Tax lien (federal) serial #981157214
$67,531.52

5/8/2014
XCurrency launched

10/15/2014
BlockNet announced

legendary
Activity: 1974
Merit: 1010
February 20, 2015, 10:29:15 PM

Your clearly missing the fact the ITO was never a security or presented as one, no shares were issued during the ITO, it was crowd funding for the software

You might forget that I was one of the concerned individuals which suggested you reconsider your terminology to it's current version.  Your words and figures have changed over time to fit your perceived needs of the moment.
hero member
Activity: 756
Merit: 500
February 20, 2015, 08:50:10 PM

Your clearly missing the fact the ITO was never a security or presented as one, no shares were issued during the ITO, it was crowd funding for the software
legendary
Activity: 1974
Merit: 1010
February 20, 2015, 08:48:20 PM
Additionally you can submit information here...

http://www.sec.state.ma.us/InvestorComplaint/compidx.aspx
hero member
Activity: 756
Merit: 500
February 20, 2015, 08:42:22 PM
Submit a complaint about Dan Metcalf, atcsecure, ATC Solutions LLC (ID # 001068271)

Consider referencing lien BK:44055 Pg. 97

Although this site appears to only cover complaints on IRS agents or people impersonating IRS agents, I have been assured that this is the correct place to file a complaint thru the online form.

http://www.treasury.gov/tigta/contact_report.shtml

This "superpriority" protects the purchaser or the holder of a security interest in a "security" who at the time of purchase or at the time the security interest came into existence did not have actual notice or knowledge of the existence of the federal tax lien. IRC § 6323(b)(1). The Code defines securities to include money, stock, bonds, debentures, notes, negotiable instruments, and various other types of interests. IRC § 6323(h)(4) .

A subsequent holder of a security interest is also protected if the prior holder did not have actual notice or knowledge at the time the security interest came into existence. An illustration of the intent of this paragraph is the case where "P" , without actual notice or knowledge of the existence of a tax lien, purchases a security from "T" , the taxpayer, after a notice of lien has been filed. "P" is protected under the provisions of this paragraph. If "P" thereafter sells the security to "C" , who at the time of such sale has actual knowledge of the existence of the lien, "C" is also protected against the tax lien. See Treas. Reg. § 301.6323(b)-1(a)(2), Examples (1) and (2).



1st - Blocknet Inc is it own US Corporation which does not have any liens on it

2nd - the ITO was not a security  


legendary
Activity: 1974
Merit: 1010
February 20, 2015, 08:40:24 PM
Submit a complaint about Dan Metcalf, atcsecure, ATC Solutions LLC (ID # 001068271), BlockNet Inc. (ID # 001152206)

Consider referencing lien BK:44055 Pg. 97

Although this site appears to only cover complaints on IRS agents or people impersonating IRS agents, I have been assured that this is the correct place to file a complaint thru the online form.

http://www.treasury.gov/tigta/contact_report.shtml

This "superpriority" protects the purchaser or the holder of a security interest in a "security" who at the time of purchase or at the time the security interest came into existence did not have actual notice or knowledge of the existence of the federal tax lien. IRC § 6323(b)(1). The Code defines securities to include money, stock, bonds, debentures, notes, negotiable instruments, and various other types of interests. IRC § 6323(h)(4) .

A subsequent holder of a security interest is also protected if the prior holder did not have actual notice or knowledge at the time the security interest came into existence. An illustration of the intent of this paragraph is the case where "P" , without actual notice or knowledge of the existence of a tax lien, purchases a security from "T" , the taxpayer, after a notice of lien has been filed. "P" is protected under the provisions of this paragraph. If "P" thereafter sells the security to "C" , who at the time of such sale has actual knowledge of the existence of the lien, "C" is also protected against the tax lien. See Treas. Reg. § 301.6323(b)-1(a)(2), Examples (1) and (2).

hero member
Activity: 756
Merit: 500
February 20, 2015, 05:52:09 PM
So then whats your deal? I like how your implying I've done something wrong or illegal when I haven't....

Dan, you've already said that you do not want to discuss open information.  Feel free to continue with your "development" and I will do the same.

what the tax lien? you don't know anything about it or what ever arrangements I've made to deal with that, your acting like you found a body buried in my back yard



legendary
Activity: 1974
Merit: 1010
February 20, 2015, 05:48:33 PM
So then whats your deal? I like how your implying I've done something wrong or illegal when I haven't....

Dan, you've already said that you do not want to discuss open information.  Feel free to continue with your "development" and I will do the same.
hero member
Activity: 756
Merit: 500
February 20, 2015, 05:44:17 PM
PRETENDING?? Seriously?  You have used xchat, I was using it with you...you helped me identify one of the bugs....


what because there was a bug its not a real product?  Have you ever developed software before?  Software requires testing to work out the bugs, that doesn't make it any less legit

keep spreading your lies....

Yes, I've worked for software companies Dan.  I understand how it works.

I'd like to thank you for getting me more deeply involved in understanding finance, government, and legal.

So then whats your deal? I like how your implying I've done something wrong or illegal when I haven't....







legendary
Activity: 1974
Merit: 1010
February 20, 2015, 05:40:18 PM
PRETENDING?? Seriously?  You have used xchat, I was using it with you...you helped me identify one of the bugs....


what because there was a bug its not a real product?  Have you ever developed software before?  Software requires testing to work out the bugs, that doesn't make it any less legit

keep spreading your lies....

Yes, I've worked for software companies Dan.  I understand how it works.

I'd like to thank you for getting me more deeply involved in understanding finance, government, and legal.
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