Topic: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos - page 1445. (Read 1484248 times)
June 03, 2014, 11:39:35 AM
Guys, Chaeplin did in fact find the sender address. Whether he wants to share his process or not, that point cannot be refuted. It would be nice if he did, but that is neither here nor there. Resorting to personal attacks is not going to change anything besides making you look childish. He did it, now the dev knows it can be done, and he can find a solution. End of story.
June 03, 2014, 11:37:54 AM
proof or no proof if chaeplin able to find the sender address then there is flaw with the coin and anon is not working
As atc said, if he posts real proof, he will take the time to look at it and analyse it.
of course if chaeplin able to find all the addresses during this test then there is flaw. the question is if developer able to fix this.
As atc said, if he posts real proof, he will take the time to look at it and analyse it.
tracking recent transaction on explorer. only few xnodes and few transactions, and he also know the amounts.
This is what I was thinking. There's not a whole lot going on in the blockchain, so it'd be much easier to deduce knowing how much and when it was sent.
Yes so this is true, thats why I asked about the actual link between A, B, and C... based on what I have reviewed, that link doesn't exist .. and that is the most critical piece at the moment, is finding a direct link from a to b to c, .. all these other issues are trivial in terms of coding a solution
The more xnodes we bring on line I guess the harder it will become to manually troll through them.
Not to mention the further splitting in next release you have planned.
I guess In 3.7 I can help with a Node
June 03, 2014, 11:36:59 AM
so you saying if there are more xnodes it would be hard? also you saying the reason transaction he would use explorer to check one by one to see the transaction?
tracking recent transaction on explorer. only few xnodes and few transactions, and he also know the amounts.
proof or no proof if chaeplin able to find the sender address then there is flaw with the coin and anon is not working
As atc said, if he posts real proof, he will take the time to look at it and analyse it.
of course if chaeplin able to find all the addresses during this test then there is flaw. the question is if developer able to fix this.
As atc said, if he posts real proof, he will take the time to look at it and analyse it.
tracking recent transaction on explorer. only few xnodes and few transactions, and he also know the amounts.
This is what I think, he is vetting the chain because the size is small and the network is small. He's a bit of a self important conceited type so he like to make out he is doing more than he is.
His ego gets in the way of him being a useful person. Shame really because he's obviously not stupid.
If he could really directly link via the block chain he would prove it.
June 03, 2014, 11:36:46 AM
proof or no proof if chaeplin able to find the sender address then there is flaw with the coin and anon is not working
As atc said, if he posts real proof, he will take the time to look at it and analyse it.
of course if chaeplin able to find all the addresses during this test then there is flaw. the question is if developer able to fix this.
As atc said, if he posts real proof, he will take the time to look at it and analyse it.
tracking recent transaction on explorer. only few xnodes and few transactions, and he also know the amounts.
This is what I was thinking. There's not a whole lot going on in the blockchain, so it'd be much easier to deduce knowing how much and when it was sent.
Yes so this is true, thats why I asked about the actual link between A, B, and C... based on what I have reviewed, that link doesn't exist .. and that is the most critical piece at the moment, is finding a direct link from a to b to c, .. all these other issues are trivial in terms of coding a solution
Let's put out a bounty for proof.
June 03, 2014, 11:35:47 AM
proof or no proof if chaeplin able to find the sender address then there is flaw with the coin and anon is not working
As atc said, if he posts real proof, he will take the time to look at it and analyse it.
of course if chaeplin able to find all the addresses during this test then there is flaw. the question is if developer able to fix this.
As atc said, if he posts real proof, he will take the time to look at it and analyse it.
tracking recent transaction on explorer. only few xnodes and few transactions, and he also know the amounts.
This is what I was thinking. There's not a whole lot going on in the blockchain, so it'd be much easier to deduce knowing how much and when it was sent.
Yes so this is true, thats why I asked about the actual link between A, B, and C... based on what I have reviewed, that link doesn't exist .. and that is the most critical piece at the moment, is finding a direct link from a to b to c, .. all these other issues are trivial in terms of coding a solution
June 03, 2014, 11:35:27 AM
tracking recent transaction on explorer. only few xnodes and few transactions, and he also know the amounts.
This is it - time consuming, but is still relevant (to a small degree).
Sadly chaeplin dude is a ignorant and rude twatt trying to elevate what he did into something more then it actually was.
June 03, 2014, 11:33:45 AM
so you saying if there are more xnodes it would be hard? also you saying the reason transaction he would use explorer to check one by one to see the transaction?
tracking recent transaction on explorer. only few xnodes and few transactions, and he also know the amounts.
proof or no proof if chaeplin able to find the sender address then there is flaw with the coin and anon is not working
As atc said, if he posts real proof, he will take the time to look at it and analyse it.
of course if chaeplin able to find all the addresses during this test then there is flaw. the question is if developer able to fix this.
As atc said, if he posts real proof, he will take the time to look at it and analyse it.
tracking recent transaction on explorer. only few xnodes and few transactions, and he also know the amounts.
June 03, 2014, 11:32:54 AM
Yes all of this is in the REV2 code as this is part of the multi-path design
Also force all users to have a random number of multiple addresses in their wallet and randomly balance the amount of coins they have between the addresses then take a random amount from each address for each transaction followed by rebalancing the balances on the addresses.
Though that could be an optional choice for users. How about also having the option of sending a non-anonymous transaction? I think that will be really essential to making this coin go mainstream. I sent a transaction to another wallet of mine and could not see the receiver address even though I wanted to at the time.
June 03, 2014, 11:32:00 AM
Teka, can you just delete anything Chaeplin has to say. He can PM atcsecure if he wishes to actually prove his claims but I don't think there is any reason to allow him to continue to toss FUD grenades around the thread.
the reason is chaeplin already proved he could, look a few pages back ...
he got the sending addresses on the first contest you were throwing in, no way he could fake it, he did not only post the address as md5 in here, before the contest was revealed. also he also made an transaction to the senders address before the address got public. Which obv. could have been checked very easy.
So he has proofen that he was able to get the senders address with the current xc design, there is no fud in that.
But still some are purly deny and call him ****! WOW !
He even stepped back from taking the bounty which he clearly deserves, spending his free time for you (i guess he has no xc at all), and the mayority of you are just calling him a laier and some other grown up words -.-
unbelivable !
Actually most of us were very friendly and supportive towards him until we realised that he had no intention of helping and was just doing it for the ego trip.
How childish is it to say you have found a flaw with something and then refuse to reveal what that flaw is?
The kind of thing five year olds do. Smart enough to trace the transactions but not smart enough to behave sensibly and maturely with the information.
June 03, 2014, 11:31:04 AM
proof or no proof if chaeplin able to find the sender address then there is flaw with the coin and anon is not working
As atc said, if he posts real proof, he will take the time to look at it and analyse it.
of course if chaeplin able to find all the addresses during this test then there is flaw. the question is if developer able to fix this.
As atc said, if he posts real proof, he will take the time to look at it and analyse it.
tracking recent transaction on explorer. only few xnodes and few transactions, and he also know the amounts.
June 03, 2014, 11:29:19 AM
At this point, it appears that if all you know is the receivers address and the amount that you cannot backtrack it to the originating wallet. Am I correct?
cannot ?
With current desgin? nothing better than Bitcoin.
Ofc you can trace back only one address, but the point is to not know the both, sender and receiver.
Its impossible to track both
So GTFO...
June 03, 2014, 11:28:57 AM
Teka, can you just delete anything Chaeplin has to say. He can PM atcsecure if he wishes to actually prove his claims but I don't think there is any reason to allow him to continue to toss FUD grenades around the thread.
the reason is chaeplin already proved he could, look a few pages back ...
he got the sending addresses on the first contest you were throwing in, no way he could fake it, he did not only post the address as md5 in here, before the contest was revealed. also he also made an transaction to the senders address before the address got public. Which obv. could have been checked very easy.
So he has proofen that he was able to get the senders address with the current xc design, there is no fud in that.
But still some are purly deny and call him ****! WOW !
He even stepped back from taking the bounty which he clearly deserves, spending his free time for you (i guess he has no xc at all), and the mayority of you are just calling him a laier and some other grown up words -.-
unbelivable !
June 03, 2014, 11:28:45 AM
proof or no proof if chaeplin able to find the sender address then there is flaw with the coin and anon is not working
As atc said, if he posts real proof, he will take the time to look at it and analyse it.
of course if chaeplin able to find all the addresses during this test then there is flaw. the question is if developer able to fix this.
As atc said, if he posts real proof, he will take the time to look at it and analyse it.
June 03, 2014, 11:27:55 AM
Teka, any news on creating a forum?
I'm working on all the boards and permission, we are pretty close. The new forum won't have a proper theme until the new logo is chosen.
June 03, 2014, 11:27:08 AM
chaeplin,
thank you for the test results, but my big question aside from the pattern issue, are you seeing a direct link on the block chain?
thanks
atcsecure
thank you for the test results, but my big question aside from the pattern issue, are you seeing a direct link on the block chain?
thanks
atcsecure
Yes Direct Link.
Who cares fuck off idiot
Welcome to ignore.
can you post that data?
thanks
atcsecure
Sorry, You are the Dev. You should know it.
So your saying you can't prove the link on the block chain?
Quote
are you seeing a direct link on the block chain?"
I use block explorer.
I have edited this.
Who cares - provide your proof for the dev as requested - why be a child dragging this on.
Welcome to ignore.
June 03, 2014, 11:26:56 AM
of course if chaeplin able to find all the addresses during this test then there is flaw. the question is if developer able to fix this.
As atc said, if he posts real proof, he will take the time to look at it and analyse it.
June 03, 2014, 11:26:29 AM
Teka, any news on creating a forum?
June 03, 2014, 11:26:12 AM
of course if chaeplin able to find all the addresses during this test then there is flaw. the question is if developer able to fix this.
June 03, 2014, 11:25:33 AM
At this point, it appears that if all you know is the receivers address and the amount that you cannot backtrack it to the originating wallet. Am I correct?
cannot ?
With current desgin? nothing better than Bitcoin.
Here is the problem unless you're next post has real proof or is constructive, it will be deleted.
Slides a free frosty mug of beer Teka's way!!!
June 03, 2014, 11:24:27 AM
At this point, it appears that if all you know is the receivers address and the amount that you cannot backtrack it to the originating wallet. Am I correct?
cannot ?
With current desgin? nothing better than Bitcoin.
2 coins sent to x address. can you track it? I realize at this point that if I wanted to prove A sent to B, it is traceable if I know A and B.
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