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Teka

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Quote from: chaeplin on June 03, 2014, 11:20:42 AM

Quote from: evtrmm on June 03, 2014, 11:18:16 AM

At this point, it appears that if all you know is the receivers address and the amount that you cannot backtrack it to the originating wallet. Am I correct?

cannot ?

With current desgin? nothing better than Bitcoin.

Here is the problem unless you're next post has real proof or is constructive, it will be deleted.

SpringfieldM1A

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Quote from: chaeplin on June 03, 2014, 11:20:42 AM

Quote from: evtrmm on June 03, 2014, 11:18:16 AM

At this point, it appears that if all you know is the receivers address and the amount that you cannot backtrack it to the originating wallet. Am I correct?

cannot ?

With current desgin? nothing better than Bitcoin.

I thought you were leaving?

BADASS

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Fudders trying to be Rudders? Huh

Grifftech

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Quote from: Grifftech on June 03, 2014, 11:16:24 AM

Teka, can you just delete anything Chaeplin has to say. He can PM atcsecure if he wishes to actually prove his claims but I don't think there is any reason to allow him to continue to toss FUD grenades around the thread.

Do not delete his posts.

I meant from here forward

chaeplin

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Quote from: evtrmm on June 03, 2014, 11:18:16 AM

At this point, it appears that if all you know is the receivers address and the amount that you cannot backtrack it to the originating wallet. Am I correct?

cannot ?

With current desgin? nothing better than Bitcoin.

SpringfieldM1A

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Quote from: chaeplin on June 03, 2014, 11:17:44 AM

No more.
Bye.

Goodbye, have a nice evening!

Grifftech

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Quote from: chaeplin on June 03, 2014, 11:17:44 AM

No more.
Bye.

Bye

studio1one

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BintexFutures

Quote from: chaeplin on June 03, 2014, 11:17:44 AM

No more.
Bye.

You're sense of self importance and ego will make you come back and look.

I know you are.

What an utter waste of time all this was, all just to massage your ego.

Teka

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Quote from: chaeplin on June 03, 2014, 11:17:44 AM

No more.
Bye.

I'm sorry but it's clear that you are trying to spread false information. Your testing was good until it started to became extremely vague. None of your posts were deleted.

atcsecure

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Quote from: saberu on June 03, 2014, 11:17:16 AM

Quote from: atcsecure on June 03, 2014, 10:40:01 AM

Yes so in this release we are NOT splitting the output, the code will be in v1.37, v1.37 will split the outputs randomly as well to stop this type of analysis

this is an easy fix

How about splitting the output amount and randomly delaying the time of each amount sent up to a maximum of five minutes? And sending each random amount to a different mixer though that would be annoying to code and might put too much traffic in the blockchain.

If the blockchain has a log of 100 amounts that add up to the total amount sent even if they are split randomly and sent over a longer period of time it is just a matter of time before a good spider can trace it out. If we send each random amount to a different mixer then that makes it easier to obfuscate the data.

This would prevent other types of analysis on the blockchain If they cannot trace by amount or time. Though I am just looking at this from a layman`s perspective so I may be wrong. Maybe you were already going to be doing this.

Yes all of this is in the REV2 code as this is part of the multi-path design

chaeplin

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Quote from: SpringfieldM1A on June 03, 2014, 11:17:09 AM

Quote from: chaeplin on June 03, 2014, 11:11:38 AM

Quote from: SpringfieldM1A on June 03, 2014, 11:10:06 AM

You are ignored.

I feel honered you ignore me, the truth hurts doesn't it?

Oh I forgot the button Grin

evtrmm

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So much for "Community"

At this point, it appears that if all you know is the receivers address and the amount that you cannot backtrack it to the originating wallet. Am I correct?

chaeplin

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No more.
Bye.

Krushang

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Quote from: chaeplin on June 03, 2014, 11:15:03 AM

Quote from: chaeplin on June 03, 2014, 11:00:58 AM

Quote from: atcsecure on June 03, 2014, 10:58:39 AM

Quote from: chaeplin on June 03, 2014, 10:56:48 AM

Quote from: atcsecure on June 03, 2014, 10:54:27 AM

Quote from: chaeplin on June 03, 2014, 10:53:10 AM

Quote from: atcsecure on June 03, 2014, 10:52:16 AM

chaeplin,

thank you for the test results, but my big question aside from the pattern issue, are you seeing a direct link on the block chain?

thanks

atcsecure

Yes Direct Link.

can you post that data?

thanks

atcsecure

Sorry, You are the Dev. You should know it.

So your saying you can't prove the link on the block chain?

I can.

Quote

are you seeing a direct link o~~n the block chain?"~~

I use block explorer.

I have edited this.

Well you can't prove it, so just go away!!

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Quote from: atcsecure on June 03, 2014, 10:40:01 AM

Yes so in this release we are NOT splitting the output, the code will be in v1.37, v1.37 will split the outputs randomly as well to stop this type of analysis

this is an easy fix

How about splitting the output amount and randomly delaying the time of each amount sent up to a maximum of five minutes? And sending each random amount to a different mixer though that would be annoying to code and might put too much traffic in the blockchain. For large amounts longer delays may be necessary as well as more splits.

If the blockchain has a log of 100 amounts that add up to the total amount sent even if they are split randomly and sent over a longer period of time it is just a matter of time before a good spider can trace it out. If we send each random amount to a different mixer then that makes it easier to obfuscate the data.

This would prevent other types of analysis on the blockchain If they cannot trace by amount or time. Though I am just looking at this from a layman`s perspective so I may be wrong. Maybe you were already going to be doing this.

SpringfieldM1A

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Quote from: chaeplin on June 03, 2014, 11:11:38 AM

Quote from: SpringfieldM1A on June 03, 2014, 11:10:06 AM

You are ignored.

I feel honered you ignore me, the truth hurts doesn't it?

JesstersDead

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I forgot where I put my wallet.dat

Quote from: chaeplin on June 03, 2014, 11:15:03 AM

Quote from: chaeplin on June 03, 2014, 11:00:58 AM

Quote from: atcsecure on June 03, 2014, 10:58:39 AM

Quote from: chaeplin on June 03, 2014, 10:56:48 AM

Quote from: atcsecure on June 03, 2014, 10:54:27 AM

Quote from: chaeplin on June 03, 2014, 10:53:10 AM

Quote from: atcsecure on June 03, 2014, 10:52:16 AM

chaeplin,

thank you for the test results, but my big question aside from the pattern issue, are you seeing a direct link on the block chain?

thanks

atcsecure

Yes Direct Link.

can you post that data?

thanks

atcsecure

Sorry, You are the Dev. You should know it.

So your saying you can't prove the link on the block chain?

I can.

Quote

are you seeing a direct link o~~n the block chain?"~~

I use block explorer.

I have edited this.

Thanks for your feedback. Substantiated or otherwise, just knowing there is a potential issue is a step in the right direction.

Grifftech

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Teka, can you just delete anything Chaeplin has to say. He can PM atcsecure if he wishes to actually prove his claims but I don't think there is any reason to allow him to continue to toss FUD grenades around the thread.

SushiChef

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Quote from: hoertest on June 03, 2014, 11:14:09 AM

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studio1one

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BintexFutures

Quote from: Grifftech on June 03, 2014, 11:12:25 AM

Quote from: evtrmm on June 03, 2014, 11:08:54 AM

Quote from: Grifftech on June 03, 2014, 11:03:03 AM

Quote from: Rraider on June 03, 2014, 10:58:20 AM

Quote from: chaeplin on June 03, 2014, 10:56:48 AM

Quote from: atcsecure on June 03, 2014, 10:54:27 AM

Quote from: chaeplin on June 03, 2014, 10:53:10 AM

Quote from: atcsecure on June 03, 2014, 10:52:16 AM

chaeplin,

thank you for the test results, but my big question aside from the pattern issue, are you seeing a direct link on the block chain?

thanks

atcsecure

Yes Direct Link.

can you post that data?

thanks

atcsecure

Sorry, You are the Dev. You should know it.

And this is what you get for trusting a retard ..... Roll Eyes

Oh yeah, but everyone seems to be all huggy lovie for him though. Good grief people look at the guys post history and shit he says in the non-moderated XC thread. But he is sooo trying to help us

at least someone is vs everyone praising it when there are obvious holes. those holes are not obvious to all, but we need people like him to help out.

remember, it is not about coin vs coin, it is about moving cryptos forward.

What obvious holes? He refuses to back up his statements, until then it is just pure shit, plain and simple

you mean apart from the fact that he succesfully traced the transactions back to the originating wallet?

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