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downloaded the test release. went to xchat tab. clicked on address book icon. right click on adress, copy public key. Key not found. I made a new address, same error when getting public key. will try on different machine
newbie
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I first heard about web 3.0 here, well before I heard about Ethereum which was during their IPO.  I don't know who came up with the idea first, but it doesn't really matter.  It's about who implements it first and implements it well.  XC is in my opinion a long term investment.  The reason I believe you are not seeing large returns goes all the way back to the rumor/lie started by the DRK guys that XC was a clone of another coin, whose name escapes me.  People lost faith in the coin because they are dumb and we are still feeling those effects.  People still see XC and think scam, but the fact that the price recovered and has been very stable speaks volumes.

I think "investors" in crypto are just stupid frankly and very myopic.  A coin may surge in value 2000% in a week, not because of any improvement in the technology, but all because of herd mentality.  Coins become valuable when they are popular.  Nothing more.  But eventually the best technology will win out.  The markets won't be fooled forever. 

Also there is nothing wrong with copying code that works exactly the way you want it too.  It's actually the most efficient way of doing things.  All this built from the ground up talk is just nonsense.  Everyone is using the original blockchain as a starting point at least.

But check the 3day mintpal charts at bitcoinwisdom.com.  https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/mintpal/xcbtc.  It was added shortly after DRK hard forked after one of their updates, and they were getting desperate because XC was flying up fast and then DRK posted on their official twitter this lie about it being a clone scam coin. The coin tanked immediately and there has been a very slow recovery ever since.  But we are making good progress and if they can pull off all of their goals there is no way the coin will not appreciate in value.

Yes they used x11, so did a lot of other coins.  Yes they had a bad name at first.  Inconsequential.  XCurrency is a rather good name IMO.  The fact that people have to go back to these trivialities to try to discredit the coin should give you a good idea that there isn't much bad they can say about it.

As for robinwilliams, he's a trolling douche and I really wish he would just disappear, and the same for all people who go into a coin's thread just to talk shit about it.  If you don't like it fine, don't buy any.  But why go in there and talk shit about it?  Because he cares so deeply about the finances of XC bagholders?  Please.
If you referring to me in the second paragraph, i was one of the first few investors in fibre at 5000 sat and got involved because a very good friend of mine ( whom i know outside the internet ) is one of the dev team and the 2000% rise would not be caused by "heard mentality" over a 7 week period?? Also at no point did i say, suggest or infer that fibre was built from the ground up and was the creator of innovations that it has implemented. I'm not fudding just merely looking for advice and suggestions about xc's future
I'm talking about people that trade coins in general. All coins right now rise because of HERD mentality.  Every single one.  Everyone wants to get in because they want to own some as the value goes up.  Few people actually believe in the technology in any coin.  They are looking to trade back to btc for a profit.  None of the technology has even matured enough to warrant the price swings we see.  Most of these coins are nothing more than speculation vehicles.  Only a few are actually even used to purchase goods and services.
legendary
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To commodify ethicality is to ethicise the market
Hi iv been a silent supporter of xc and have been staking 761 xc coins since may. I bought in at around 168k, the price has dropped since and remained stagnant at around 135k for sometime now. Xc has arguably one of the best devs in the crypto world behind it so i expected some kind of growth. I'm not disgruntled as I have made other successful investments in coins with 2000% growth. So my question is this, have i made a good investment or should i abandon ship? Any feedback would be appreciated.

problem is xc is always chasing someone else's ideas.

darkcoin invented x11.  xc named their coin x11coin (http://www.xc-official.com/) & changed later.

darkcoin had the idea of nodes.  xc followed (but turned everyone into nodes)

ethereum started pushing "web 3.0" - xc started talking about it and saying they were going to push it

darkcoin just completely open sourced - xc is working on it.

xc is spinning a company off to raise more money which will dillute coinholding profitability if there ever is any.  (but they are giving coinholders a piece of the action).  also it doesn't look good when the lead dev pumps other shitcoins.  so these are their two original ideas - a for profit company (dan was listed as XC "ceo" for awhile) and "reviewing" other competing coins.

FWIW I think darkcoin is a piece of shitjunk scam (I am currently a little invested in monero and boolberries cuz i like ring sigs but if you look at my post history u can see i was pretty hard on both of them b4 deciding).

anwhoo thats my take on why its going nowhere.  nobody ever listens to me.   Roll Eyes

Thanks for your feedback, i always thought xc was an innovator in crypto and others followed but i didnt know about the points you've raised. My other investments are ethereum and fibre. I'm not going to bang on about other coins because this is not the place for it but from what i can see fibre has done in 7 weeks what it's taken this long for xc to do. I was going to hold until rev 3 but now I'm having second thoughts

I would disagree with Robinwilliams on most of those points:

- It's simply incorrect to say that "Darkcoin had the idea of nodes". Bitcoin has nodes. All P2P networks have nodes. Hah.

- It's also incorrect that XC copied Darkcoin with its nodes. Darkcoin Masternodes are known as "supernodes" in CoinJoin terminology. XC doesn't have supernodes at all, since every single node on its network does the job that DRK masternodes do. So again, it's incorrect that XC copied DRK's "nodes".

- XC Inc. will NOT dilute the money supply, because (a) no more coins (or tokens equivalent to coins) will be created. (b) XC Inc and XC the currency have different fundamentals.  Robinwilliams, you're a clever troll, but you're still a troll to be spreading this misinformation. Do you not read XC's press releases?


Then when it comes to XC's originality:

- It's the first ever fully anonymous coin. (I'm prepared to defend this point further if you like.)

- XC invented trustless mixing. It's a world-first.

- XC is the first-ever implementation of an ad hoc meshnet in crypto (it's XC's "CoinJoin killer" feature).

- XC  is the first ever multipath design in crypto - and this is a crucial feature if the amount sent is to be obfuscated).

- No other project will offer flexible control over privacy. Some (e.g. MNR) claim to offer anonymity, but without being able to disclose certain information, its use-cases will be severely limited. XC is designed for the real world, where you often need to demonstrate that YOU paid, or that a certain amount was paid, or that the receiver did indeed receive payment. These scenarios are impracticable with monolithic "anonymity".

- XC will be the first ever Web 3.0 platform. This has been our vision from the start, and we'll beat Ethereum to it.


So I think there's very little - or zero - reason to consider XC some kind of trend-follower. XC hits world-firsts on a bi-weekly basis, on average.

Enough said.


Speaking of copying, you guys are gonna love this:

Darkcoin core developer Evan Duffield has earlier announced to further propagate the coin’s development by introducing new features like ...Encrypted Multipath Communication Technology


http://www.forexminute.com/bitcoin/darkcoin-releases-darksends-open-source-code-45910


P.S. I don't mean this to be a reason to get annoyed with DRK. They're very welcome to follow XC. It's great news, really. We have every reason to be pleased about this.
hero member
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downloaded how do we launch the group chat??
hero member
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meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee and the Goat!
newbie
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Thanks for everyones feedback, good to see this feed is still alive. I have a lot of faith in xc and will continue to support it 😉
legendary
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To commodify ethicality is to ethicise the market



Wallet now available

http://downloads.xc-official.com/testing/v2.49/XCurrency_2.49.08.exe


- The Group Chat feature is still "testing", and this is the first "public" test - so I expect to find some bugs

Dan




Fantastic! Who wants to have a group chat?
legendary
Activity: 1190
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To commodify ethicality is to ethicise the market
If you referring to me in the second paragraph, i was one of the first few investors in fibre at 5000 sat and got involved because a very good friend of mine ( whom i know outside the internet ) is one of the dev team and the 2000% rise would not be caused by "heard mentality" over a 7 week period?? Also at no point did i say, suggest or infer that fibre was built from the ground up and was the creator of innovations that it has implemented. I'm not fudding just merely looking for advice and suggestions about xc's future

I think that Robinwilliams was being referred to, not you. :-)

Thanks for coming in to enquire about XC. You're very welcome.

Apologies for Mr. Williams. I'm not sure what he hangs around here for, but he's generally less than honest in my opinion.
hero member
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Wallet now available

http://downloads.xc-official.com/testing/v2.49/XCurrency_2.49.08.exe


- The Group Chat feature is still "testing", and this is the first "public" test - so I expect to find some bugs

Dan


hero member
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Hi iv been a silent supporter of xc and have been staking 761 xc coins since may. I bought in at around 168k, the price has dropped since and remained stagnant at around 135k for sometime now. Xc has arguably one of the best devs in the crypto world behind it so i expected some kind of growth. I'm not disgruntled as I have made other successful investments in coins with 2000% growth. So my question is this, have i made a good investment or should i abandon ship? Any feedback would be appreciated.
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Thanks for your feedback, i always thought xc was an innovator in crypto and others followed but i didnt know about the points you've raised. My other investments are ethereum and fibre. I'm not going to bang on about other coins because this is not the place for it but from what i can see fibre has done in 7 weeks what it's taken this long for xc to do. I was going to hold until rev 3 but now I'm having second thoughts

You should check the post history of those who you take advice from. The R.A.V.E.N critical thinking technique can help you understand why his argument though might be valid should not be a major driving point behind your decision.

As with the rest the post above should help.
I thought robinwilliams was banned from the thread.
newbie
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I first heard about web 3.0 here, well before I heard about Ethereum which was during their IPO.  I don't know who came up with the idea first, but it doesn't really matter.  It's about who implements it first and implements it well.  XC is in my opinion a long term investment.  The reason I believe you are not seeing large returns goes all the way back to the rumor/lie started by the DRK guys that XC was a clone of another coin, whose name escapes me.  People lost faith in the coin because they are dumb and we are still feeling those effects.  People still see XC and think scam, but the fact that the price recovered and has been very stable speaks volumes.

I think "investors" in crypto are just stupid frankly and very myopic.  A coin may surge in value 2000% in a week, not because of any improvement in the technology, but all because of herd mentality.  Coins become valuable when they are popular.  Nothing more.  But eventually the best technology will win out.  The markets won't be fooled forever. 

Also there is nothing wrong with copying code that works exactly the way you want it too.  It's actually the most efficient way of doing things.  All this built from the ground up talk is just nonsense.  Everyone is using the original blockchain as a starting point at least.

But check the 3day mintpal charts at bitcoinwisdom.com.  https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/mintpal/xcbtc.  It was added shortly after DRK hard forked after one of their updates, and they were getting desperate because XC was flying up fast and then DRK posted on their official twitter this lie about it being a clone scam coin. The coin tanked immediately and there has been a very slow recovery ever since.  But we are making good progress and if they can pull off all of their goals there is no way the coin will not appreciate in value.

Yes they used x11, so did a lot of other coins.  Yes they had a bad name at first.  Inconsequential.  XCurrency is a rather good name IMO.  The fact that people have to go back to these trivialities to try to discredit the coin should give you a good idea that there isn't much bad they can say about it.

As for robinwilliams, he's a trolling douche and I really wish he would just disappear, and the same for all people who go into a coin's thread just to talk shit about it.  If you don't like it fine, don't buy any.  But why go in there and talk shit about it?  Because he cares so deeply about the finances of XC bagholders?  Please.
If you referring to me in the second paragraph, i was one of the first few investors in fibre at 5000 sat and got involved because a very good friend of mine ( whom i know outside the internet ) is one of the dev team and the 2000% rise would not be caused by "heard mentality" over a 7 week period?? Also at no point did i say, suggest or infer that fibre was built from the ground up and was the creator of innovations that it has implemented. I'm not fudding just merely looking for advice and suggestions about xc's future
hero member
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Hi iv been a silent supporter of xc and have been staking 761 xc coins since may. I bought in at around 168k, the price has dropped since and remained stagnant at around 135k for sometime now. Xc has arguably one of the best devs in the crypto world behind it so i expected some kind of growth. I'm not disgruntled as I have made other successful investments in coins with 2000% growth. So my question is this, have i made a good investment or should i abandon ship? Any feedback would be appreciated.
snip
Thanks for your feedback, i always thought xc was an innovator in crypto and others followed but i didnt know about the points you've raised. My other investments are ethereum and fibre. I'm not going to bang on about other coins because this is not the place for it but from what i can see fibre has done in 7 weeks what it's taken this long for xc to do. I was going to hold until rev 3 but now I'm having second thoughts

You should check the post history of those who you take advice from. The R.A.V.E.N critical thinking technique can help you understand why his argument though might be valid should not be a major driving point behind your decision.

As with the rest the post above should help.
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An updated wallet is being posted shortly - this is a TEST release for a new XChat feature

* XChat now supports "Groups", right click and select "Invite"



GROUP PRIVATE CHAT!




Yes!!! Finally! 
sr. member
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Hi iv been a silent supporter of xc and have been staking 761 xc coins since may. I bought in at around 168k, the price has dropped since and remained stagnant at around 135k for sometime now. Xc has arguably one of the best devs in the crypto world behind it so i expected some kind of growth. I'm not disgruntled as I have made other successful investments in coins with 2000% growth. So my question is this, have i made a good investment or should i abandon ship? Any feedback would be appreciated.

problem is xc is always chasing someone else's ideas.

darkcoin invented x11.  xc named their coin x11coin (http://www.xc-official.com/) & changed later.

darkcoin had the idea of nodes.  xc followed (but turned everyone into nodes)

ethereum started pushing "web 3.0" - xc started talking about it and saying they were going to push it

darkcoin just completely open sourced - xc is working on it.

xc is spinning a company off to raise more money which will dillute coinholding profitability if there ever is any.  (but they are giving coinholders a piece of the action).  also it doesn't look good when the lead dev pumps other shitcoins.  so these are their two original ideas - a for profit company (dan was listed as XC "ceo" for awhile) and "reviewing" other competing coins.

FWIW I think darkcoin is a piece of shitjunk scam (I am currently a little invested in monero and boolberries cuz i like ring sigs but if you look at my post history u can see i was pretty hard on both of them b4 deciding).

anwhoo thats my take on why its going nowhere.  nobody ever listens to me.   Roll Eyes

Thanks for your feedback, i always thought xc was an innovator in crypto and others followed but i didnt know about the points you've raised. My other investments are ethereum and fibre. I'm not going to bang on about other coins because this is not the place for it but from what i can see fibre has done in 7 weeks what it's taken this long for xc to do. I was going to hold until rev 3 but now I'm having second thoughts

Hmm... please do tell us this mesh/multipath anon solution that Fibre has in 7 weeks...   Oh ya... they don't.

Good luck with your Fibre where almost 47% of the coins is on exchange alone ready for the big dump vs XC at under 10%....
legendary
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To commodify ethicality is to ethicise the market



An updated wallet is being posted shortly - this is a TEST release for a new XChat feature

* XChat now supports "Groups", right click and select "Invite"



GROUP PRIVATE CHAT!


hero member
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An updated wallet is being posted shortly - this is a TEST release for a new XChat feature

* XChat now supports "Groups", right click and select "Invite"

Thanks Dan really nice to hear Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1190
Merit: 1000
To commodify ethicality is to ethicise the market
Hi iv been a silent supporter of xc and have been staking 761 xc coins since may. I bought in at around 168k, the price has dropped since and remained stagnant at around 135k for sometime now. Xc has arguably one of the best devs in the crypto world behind it so i expected some kind of growth. I'm not disgruntled as I have made other successful investments in coins with 2000% growth. So my question is this, have i made a good investment or should i abandon ship? Any feedback would be appreciated.

problem is xc is always chasing someone else's ideas.

darkcoin invented x11.  xc named their coin x11coin (http://www.xc-official.com/) & changed later.

darkcoin had the idea of nodes.  xc followed (but turned everyone into nodes)

ethereum started pushing "web 3.0" - xc started talking about it and saying they were going to push it

darkcoin just completely open sourced - xc is working on it.

xc is spinning a company off to raise more money which will dillute coinholding profitability if there ever is any.  (but they are giving coinholders a piece of the action).  also it doesn't look good when the lead dev pumps other shitcoins.  so these are their two original ideas - a for profit company (dan was listed as XC "ceo" for awhile) and "reviewing" other competing coins.

FWIW I think darkcoin is a piece of shitjunk scam (I am currently a little invested in monero and boolberries cuz i like ring sigs but if you look at my post history u can see i was pretty hard on both of them b4 deciding).

anwhoo thats my take on why its going nowhere.  nobody ever listens to me.   Roll Eyes

Thanks for your feedback, i always thought xc was an innovator in crypto and others followed but i didnt know about the points you've raised. My other investments are ethereum and fibre. I'm not going to bang on about other coins because this is not the place for it but from what i can see fibre has done in 7 weeks what it's taken this long for xc to do. I was going to hold until rev 3 but now I'm having second thoughts

I would disagree with Robinwilliams on most of those points:

- It's simply incorrect to say that "Darkcoin had the idea of nodes". Bitcoin has nodes. All P2P networks have nodes. Hah.

- It's also incorrect that XC copied Darkcoin with its nodes. Darkcoin Masternodes are known as "supernodes" in CoinJoin terminology. XC doesn't have supernodes at all, since every single node on its network does the job that DRK masternodes do. So again, it's incorrect that XC copied DRK's "nodes".

- XC Inc. will NOT dilute the money supply, because (a) no more coins (or tokens equivalent to coins) will be created. (b) XC Inc and XC the currency have different fundamentals.  Robinwilliams, you're a clever troll, but you're still a troll to be spreading this misinformation. Do you not read XC's press releases?


Then when it comes to XC's originality:

- It's the first ever fully anonymous coin. (I'm prepared to defend this point further if you like.)

- XC invented trustless mixing. It's a world-first.

- XC is the first-ever implementation of an ad hoc meshnet in crypto (it's XC's "CoinJoin killer" feature).

- XC  is the first ever multipath design in crypto - and this is a crucial feature if the amount sent is to be obfuscated).

- No other project will offer flexible control over privacy. Some (e.g. MNR) claim to offer anonymity, but without being able to disclose certain information, its use-cases will be severely limited. XC is designed for the real world, where you often need to demonstrate that YOU paid, or that a certain amount was paid, or that the receiver did indeed receive payment. These scenarios are impracticable with monolithic "anonymity".

- XC will be the first ever Web 3.0 platform. This has been our vision from the start, and we'll beat Ethereum to it.


So I think there's very little - or zero - reason to consider XC some kind of trend-follower. XC hits world-firsts on a bi-weekly basis, on average.

Enough said.
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An updated wallet is being posted shortly - this is a TEST release for a new XChat feature

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wow double troll attempt ahhahahahhahahah dump all your coins so you should have more then 100000 I want to see you dump all of them.
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I first heard about web 3.0 here, well before I heard about Ethereum which was during their IPO.  I don't know who came up with the idea first, but it doesn't really matter.  It's about who implements it first and implements it well.  XC is in my opinion a long term investment.  The reason I believe you are not seeing large returns goes all the way back to the rumor/lie started by the DRK guys that XC was a clone of another coin, whose name escapes me.  People lost faith in the coin because they are dumb and we are still feeling those effects.  People still see XC and think scam, but the fact that the price recovered and has been very stable speaks volumes.

I think "investors" in crypto are just stupid frankly and very myopic.  A coin may surge in value 2000% in a week, not because of any improvement in the technology, but all because of herd mentality.  Coins become valuable when they are popular.  Nothing more.  But eventually the best technology will win out.  The markets won't be fooled forever. 

Also there is nothing wrong with copying code that works exactly the way you want it too.  It's actually the most efficient way of doing things.  All this built from the ground up talk is just nonsense.  Everyone is using the original blockchain as a starting point at least.

But check the 3day mintpal charts at bitcoinwisdom.com.  https://bitcoinwisdom.com/markets/mintpal/xcbtc.  It was added shortly after DRK hard forked after one of their updates, and they were getting desperate because XC was flying up fast and then DRK posted on their official twitter this lie about it being a clone scam coin. The coin tanked immediately and there has been a very slow recovery ever since.  But we are making good progress and if they can pull off all of their goals there is no way the coin will not appreciate in value.

Yes they used x11, so did a lot of other coins.  Yes they had a bad name at first.  Inconsequential.  XCurrency is a rather good name IMO.  The fact that people have to go back to these trivialities to try to discredit the coin should give you a good idea that there isn't much bad they can say about it.

As for robinwilliams, he's a trolling douche and I really wish he would just disappear, and the same for all people who go into a coin's thread just to talk shit about it.  If you don't like it fine, don't buy any.  But why go in there and talk shit about it?  Because he cares so deeply about the finances of XC bagholders?  Please.
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