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Topic: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos - page 248. (Read 1484240 times)

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There is a topic about Coinshuffle on the front page of Reddit r/bitcoin, please upvote this XC post: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2hy9n5/presenting_coinshuffle_trustless_peertopeer/ckxfq1p
Synechist I posted your explanation of XCurrency (http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2hy9n5/presenting_coinshuffle_trustless_peertopeer/ckxhc9q?context=3) and someone asked me:

"I haven't quite grasped the scenario of 'what happens if a node that receives coins to mix just drops off the face of the Earth', what happens to those coins? How do you work around this?
Side note: you should also consider building in a timeout setting, such that a node involved in mixing cannot hold coins for more than X seconds or Y coins or Z transactions (or some combination); else, they could sit there collecting as many coins as possible and then walking off with them - unless there's some other mitigation to this already?
In short, how do you mitigate against rogue nodes? Yes you have mentioned something about kicking bad nodes out, but what's to prevent a rogue node from just re-spawning under a different ID?"

Can you give me a response to give them or post there directly?





Interesting question but really thats how REV1 worked, REV2's trustless system doesn't allow a node to hold coins and "disappear" - since its an atomic transaction, so if the node drops off in the middle of the TX, then the TX fails and is banned.. Rogue/Bad nodes can't steal coins

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There is a topic about Coinshuffle on the front page of Reddit r/bitcoin, please upvote this XC post: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2hy9n5/presenting_coinshuffle_trustless_peertopeer/ckxfq1p
Synechist I posted your explanation of XCurrency (http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2hy9n5/presenting_coinshuffle_trustless_peertopeer/ckxhc9q?context=3) and someone asked me:

"I haven't quite grasped the scenario of 'what happens if a node that receives coins to mix just drops off the face of the Earth', what happens to those coins? How do you work around this?
Side note: you should also consider building in a timeout setting, such that a node involved in mixing cannot hold coins for more than X seconds or Y coins or Z transactions (or some combination); else, they could sit there collecting as many coins as possible and then walking off with them - unless there's some other mitigation to this already?
In short, how do you mitigate against rogue nodes? Yes you have mentioned something about kicking bad nodes out, but what's to prevent a rogue node from just re-spawning under a different ID?"

Can you give me a response to give them or post there directly?




Thanks Mr_Random. Nice one. Onto it...


P.S. Nodes received the whole transaction, not just the coins. They either sign the whole thing (thereby agreeing to forward coins) or opt out. There's no possibility of stealing.
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Dan I need to tell you something can you come in Xchat one sec?
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There is a topic about Coinshuffle on the front page of Reddit r/bitcoin, please upvote this XC post: http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2hy9n5/presenting_coinshuffle_trustless_peertopeer/ckxfq1p
Synechist I posted your explanation of XCurrency (http://www.reddit.com/r/Bitcoin/comments/2hy9n5/presenting_coinshuffle_trustless_peertopeer/ckxhc9q?context=3) and someone asked me:

"I haven't quite grasped the scenario of 'what happens if a node that receives coins to mix just drops off the face of the Earth', what happens to those coins? How do you work around this?
Side note: you should also consider building in a timeout setting, such that a node involved in mixing cannot hold coins for more than X seconds or Y coins or Z transactions (or some combination); else, they could sit there collecting as many coins as possible and then walking off with them - unless there's some other mitigation to this already?
In short, how do you mitigate against rogue nodes? Yes you have mentioned something about kicking bad nodes out, but what's to prevent a rogue node from just re-spawning under a different ID?"

Can you give me a response to give them or post there directly?


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Dan - you da man.
Thanks for always being professional and straightforward.
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All right...how do I XChat?  I notice people have something set up in their signature but I don't no where my key is...


okay to use XChat, make a new local wallet address, then right click to get your Pubkey - those 2 values are what you share



however in an upcoming release, you can just use your alias/username
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As expected, testing produced some interesting bugs... work continues to resolve those bugs (duplicate msgs and multi-session handling)

also I will add a prefix in the group chat

Dan


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Noob Question - How do I download the update without sending the coins to an exchange, deleting the wallet and then installing?

Just download and run the installer v2.49.08 - BACKUP WALLET.DAT FIRST!

Dan
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All right...how do I XChat?  I notice people have something set up in their signature but I don't no where my key is...
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Early testing of #XChat GROUP CHAT has begun! Here's to the future.

#XCurrency $XC #privacy #NSA


Twitter: https://twitter.com/XCurrency/status/517369018475634688

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/XCurrency/posts/1553843411506227

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Jealous - at work, too many firewalls Smiley
legendary
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First group chat so far just me and Cryptico though Arlyn is invited Smiley

Anyone looking to test try with wallet fully unlocked.

[snip]

Haha.

Got a group chat working with CryptoGretzky and Dan.

No duplication of messages on my side.



so invite us as well damn! Smiley
First group chat so far just me and Cryptico though Arlyn is invited Smiley

Anyone looking to test try with wallet fully unlocked.

[snip]

Haha.

Got a group chat working with CryptoGretzky and Dan.

No duplication of messages on my side.



so invite us as well damn! Smiley

... And we're chatting.
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I need to ask Dan something does the chat works with more then 3 people in it?
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Wallet now available

http://downloads.xc-official.com/testing/v2.49/XCurrency_2.49.08.exe


- The Group Chat feature is still "testing", and this is the first "public" test - so I expect to find some bugs

Dan







Someone add me to a chat. Let's try this thing out.



I added you to a chat with Crytico, did you get my message?
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Nope.

Cryptico, to add someone, right-click on the thread (on the left), and click "invite".



I've added you and Dan but it weird if I choose your name from the right it will open a new window at the end where written your name twice is this how the invite work? I made one with you and Dan also and send few nessages but it seems is not working

In theory, yes.
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First group chat so far just me and Cryptico though Arlyn is invited Smiley

Anyone looking to test try with wallet fully unlocked.

[snip]

Haha.

Got a group chat working with CryptoGretzky and Dan.

No duplication of messages on my side.



so invite us as well damn! Smiley
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In Crypto We Verify
First group chat so far just me and Cryptico though Arlyn is invited Smiley

Anyone looking to test try with wallet fully unlocked.

[snip]

Haha.

Got a group chat working with CryptoGretzky and Dan.

No duplication of messages on my side.



Well cut us in on some of that action Smiley
legendary
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To commodify ethicality is to ethicise the market
First group chat so far just me and Cryptico though Arlyn is invited Smiley

Anyone looking to test try with wallet fully unlocked.

[snip]

Haha.

Got a group chat working with CryptoGretzky and Dan.

No duplication of messages on my side.

hero member
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member
Activity: 109
Merit: 10
In Crypto We Verify
First group chat so far just me and Cryptico though Arlyn is invited Smiley

Anyone looking to test try with wallet fully unlocked.

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In Crypto We Verify
Perhaps getting on IRC to coordinate some tests. I am in there now. http://xc-official.com/community/
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