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hero member
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someone want to help me install the wallet on my raspberry pi model B+ ? I bought one for shits and giggles and am having trouble even installing the damn wallet haha.

Which linux distro are you running?

Raspbian.  it was the recommended one that came with it.  What would you recommend?

Try ubuntu - i did this about a year ago (maybe 10 months)
http://www.engineersgarage.com/embedded/raspberry-pi/how-to-load-ubuntu-on-raspberry-pi
I dont have the device anymore. But mine worked in the past.

I've had ubuntu machines in the past so I kind of know my way around them.  I essentially just want it to run my wallet as opposed to my old laptop.  As soon as Rev 2 comes out in a few days, I will want to be running myself an Xnode and the pi will be perfect for it  Grin

I actually have my eye on this:
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus-chromebox-intel-celeron-2gb-memory-16gb-solid-state-drive/5467029.p?id=1219132169492&skuId=5467029&ref=06&loc=01&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=5467029&extensionType=pla:g&s_kwcid=PTC!pla!!!80819144719!g!!52599681919&kpid=5467029&k_clickid=706a3c8d-8688-ff89-420c-00003995667b&kpid=5467029



How many VM can you run with that?
hero member
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someone want to help me install the wallet on my raspberry pi model B+ ? I bought one for shits and giggles and am having trouble even installing the damn wallet haha.

Which linux distro are you running?

Raspbian.  it was the recommended one that came with it.  What would you recommend?

Try ubuntu - i did this about a year ago (maybe 10 months)
http://www.engineersgarage.com/embedded/raspberry-pi/how-to-load-ubuntu-on-raspberry-pi
I dont have the device anymore. But mine worked in the past.

I've had ubuntu machines in the past so I kind of know my way around them.  I essentially just want it to run my wallet as opposed to my old laptop.  As soon as Rev 2 comes out in a few days, I will want to be running myself an Xnode and the pi will be perfect for it  Grin

I actually have my eye on this:
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus-chromebox-intel-celeron-2gb-memory-16gb-solid-state-drive/5467029.p?id=1219132169492&skuId=5467029&ref=06&loc=01&ci_src=14110944&ci_sku=5467029&extensionType=pla:g&s_kwcid=PTC!pla!!!80819144719!g!!52599681919&kpid=5467029&k_clickid=706a3c8d-8688-ff89-420c-00003995667b&kpid=5467029

legendary
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To commodify ethicality is to ethicise the market
Atm I'm more looking for answers on two questions
If I have a wallet with more then 1K coins, can I somehow isolate  those 1K coins from the rest so they can stake? Like the previous version with the xmixer address.

And what kind of revenue will be paid,?
 before people start mixing  (and reset coinage all the time) they need to get more than just staking, eg over 34xc a year

http://xctalk.com/index.php?/topic/71-xnode-and-the-incentive-to-run-it/

Sometime ago i was speaking of this incentive to run a xnode VS staking at 3,33% , i was imagining a system that gradualy increase the possible number of transaction of a xnode mixer based on the reserve balance with a maximal 1000xc by wallet.

The example was with 0.01 of fee by transaction perhaps its too much i dont know but the idea behind was to let's small holder of XC to work like a xnode mixer increasing drastically the potential of xnode mixer running.

I for one are more than happy to pay a 0.01 fee for a real anon transaction, even more if needed. If we look at those numbers in fiat its to cheap to even think about it.
Even a retailer can offer to pay the anon fee for its customers and will still smile if he compares those numbers with fiat transactions

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And for privacy perhaps using multiple degree of privacy each with a cost like "Simple degree of privacy normal fee but quick" , "Intermediate degree of privacy fee increased like .001" and "Maximal privacy fee increased like 0.01 but slow".

But i always think that XC must be used all the time with this privacy system at some degree , if you want no privacy you can use BTC.

BTC>Credit card   XC>Cash.

Yeah those ideas are great. I like the effect they'll have.

While they won't be implemented on Monday, there's good reason to think through their consequences.

Your suggestion looks a little like the reputation-based idea that XC had before Dan invented trustless mixing. Nodes would need to stick around and earn their rep before being able to process lots of transactions.

My main concern with it would be that it might be inelegant. It adds a lot of complexity - and it's complexity of a non-necessary kind - to add a whole reputation/age/transaction-counting system to things. It'll most likely be hackable unless it's as secure as the Bitcoin protocol, so inelegance would have a high cost.

On the other hand, I like its decentralising effect, and its ability to empower small holders.
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someone want to help me install the wallet on my raspberry pi model B+ ? I bought one for shits and giggles and am having trouble even installing the damn wallet haha.

Which linux distro are you running?

Raspbian.  it was the recommended one that came with it.  What would you recommend?

Try ubuntu - i did this about a year ago (maybe 10 months)
http://www.engineersgarage.com/embedded/raspberry-pi/how-to-load-ubuntu-on-raspberry-pi
I dont have the device anymore. But mine worked in the past.

I've had ubuntu machines in the past so I kind of know my way around them.  I essentially just want it to run my wallet as opposed to my old laptop.  As soon as Rev 2 comes out in a few days, I will want to be running myself an Xnode and the pi will be perfect for it  Grin
hero member
Activity: 509
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someone want to help me install the wallet on my raspberry pi model B+ ? I bought one for shits and giggles and am having trouble even installing the damn wallet haha.

Which linux distro are you running?

Raspbian.  it was the recommended one that came with it.  What would you recommend?

Try ubuntu - i did this about a year ago (maybe 10 months)
http://www.engineersgarage.com/embedded/raspberry-pi/how-to-load-ubuntu-on-raspberry-pi
I dont have the device anymore. But mine worked in the past.
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This Kristov Atlas that reviewed DRK source, could he be used to validate XC source later? His analysis seems objective.
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Atm I'm more looking for answers on two questions
If I have a wallet with more then 1K coins, can I somehow isolate  those 1K coins from the rest so they can stake? Like the previous version with the xmixer address.

And what kind of revenue will be paid,?
 before people start mixing  (and reset coinage all the time) they need to get more than just staking, eg over 34xc a year

http://xctalk.com/index.php?/topic/71-xnode-and-the-incentive-to-run-it/

Sometime ago i was speaking of this incentive to run a xnode VS staking at 3,33% , i was imagining a system that gradualy increase the possible number of transaction of a xnode mixer based on the reserve balance with a maximal 1000xc by wallet.

The example was with 0.01 of fee by transaction perhaps its too much i dont know but the idea behind was to let's small holder of XC to work like a xnode mixer increasing drastically the potential of xnode mixer running.

I for one are more than happy to pay a 0.01 fee for a real anon transaction, even more if needed. If we look at those numbers in fiat its to cheap to even think about it.
Even a retailer can offer to pay the anon fee for its customers and will still smile if he compares those numbers with fiat transactions
member
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someone want to help me install the wallet on my raspberry pi model B+ ? I bought one for shits and giggles and am having trouble even installing the damn wallet haha.

Which linux distro are you running?

Raspbian.  it was the recommended one that came with it.  What would you recommend?
hero member
Activity: 509
Merit: 500
someone want to help me install the wallet on my raspberry pi model B+ ? I bought one for shits and giggles and am having trouble even installing the damn wallet haha.

Which linux distro are you running?
hero member
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Does running an Xnode have a big influence on your Internet speed?

Running an XNode + Mixer would increase your internet traffic but not by a noticeable amount



I only have a 2 Mb/s Internet speed, so even with that will I not notice it?
sr. member
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So when this REV2 is release we will be getting paid For our Xnodes now/X mixer whatever were calling it

Hello I was wondering if for the xnode you will need it to run in a single wallet with 1000 xc or can you have multiple xnodes in a single wallet putting 1000 xc in different addresses?

Yes nodes with a dedicated address containing 1000 XC will receive revenue for trustlessly forwarding transactions.

You can run as many wallets as you like. You'd need a virtualisation environment to do this on a single computer.




As long as you bought the TOR stick you should be ok?
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And for privacy perhaps using multiple degree of privacy each with a cost like "Simple degree of privacy normal fee but quick" , "Intermediate degree of privacy fee increased like .001" and "Maximal privacy fee increased like 0.01 but slow".

But i always think that XC must be used all the time with this privacy system at some degree , if you want no privacy you can use BTC.

BTC>Credit card   XC>Cash.

hero member
Activity: 661
Merit: 500
Atm I'm more looking for answers on two questions
If I have a wallet with more then 1K coins, can I somehow isolate  those 1K coins from the rest so they can stake? Like the previous version with the xmixer address.

And what kind of revenue will be paid,?
 before people start mixing  (and reset coinage all the time) they need to get more than just staking, eg over 34xc a year

http://xctalk.com/index.php?/topic/71-xnode-and-the-incentive-to-run-it/

Sometime ago i was speaking of this incentive to run a xnode VS staking at 3,33% , i was imagining a system that gradualy increase the possible number of transaction of a xnode mixer based on the reserve balance with a maximal 1000xc by wallet.

The example was with 0.01 of fee by transaction perhaps its too much i dont know but the idea behind was to let's small holder of XC to work like a xnode mixer increasing drastically the potential of xnode mixer running.

legendary
Activity: 1190
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To commodify ethicality is to ethicise the market
So when this REV2 is release we will be getting paid For our Xnodes now/X mixer whatever were calling it

Hello I was wondering if for the xnode you will need it to run in a single wallet with 1000 xc or can you have multiple xnodes in a single wallet putting 1000 xc in different addresses?

Yes nodes with a dedicated address containing 1000 XC will receive revenue for trustlessly forwarding transactions.

You can run as many wallets as you like. You'd need a virtualisation environment to do this on a single computer.




Do the wallets still need separate public IP or just different VM and single IP is fine?

Yes they still do.

Run them all over TOR.

Oh boy... I think I will need some more bandwidth.   Might get some VM from azure or amazon or something...

Heh. Bring on the tx revenue!




Any chance Dan can make it so that say you have multiple input/address that adds to up more than 1000 XC to act as a xmixer rather than separate wallets?   Say you have 50k in a wallet, then it acts like 50 Xmixers rather than needing to run 50 separate wallets??   

I doubt that'll be a good idea in terms of the blockchain. It's not a good idea to run multiple copies of your wallet.dat and then spend from both. You can corrupt the wallet.dat.

Xmixers will be continually receiving and sending fragments. Imagine how much higher the chances of corrupting your wallet would be with that!

In any case, having several wallets, each with a smaller balance, is more secure. If I had 50k I'd certainly spread them around a bit. :-)



But... The need to run like 100 to 200 or more wallets... Omg...  The number of VM that's needed is insane. 

I am just saying if you have inputs that are 1000 XC that it's automatically treated as one xmixer since the mixing is based on UTXO unspent output anyway.

Indeed, that amount of VM would be hectic.

I wonder if this will be possible... mixing involves continually creating new addresses that fragments are paid to/from, and so the inputs/outputs are multiple and not just a single 1000 XC address.

Conceivably a mixer could get more transactions simply by having more coins available for mixing... and also more network speed, processing power, etc. Perhaps a single mixer could have 50k in it and be on a big server somewhere and thereby generate more revenue. However, I think this would centralise the network dangerously.

On the other hand,  I'm all for incentivising nodes to perform better. Quicker service, or fewer issues, etc. might be pretty important in a web 3.0/blockchain 2.0 scenario.

Atm I'm more looking for answers on two questions
If I have a wallet with more then 1K coins, can I somehow isolate  those 1K coins from the rest so they can stake? Like the previous version with the xmixer address.

And what kind of revenue will be paid,?
 before people start mixing  (and reset coinage all the time) they need to get more than just staking, eg over 34xc a year

At the moment, since your 1000 XC will be fragmenting and moving from address to address all the time, you won't be able to isolate your other balances from the coins you use for mixing.

So you'll need to keep a personal wallet.dat, and a separate wallet.dat for a mixing node.

You're right that coin-age will reset all the time, and so you won't stake your 1000 XC. It will be more profitable to use your 1000 XC to trustlessly forward transactions.

I don't have figures on what the revenues will be at this stage. We'll release those details soon.


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XC MultiPool Update -

I've disabled 42Coin as its hashrate is too high for the MP at this time.  Profitability stats have been looking good


scrypt is 0.00049709 BTC/day per Mh/s

 x11 is 0.00020984 BTC/day per Mh/s



Dan


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Does running an Xnode have a big influence on your Internet speed?

Running an XNode + Mixer would increase your internet traffic but not by a noticeable amount


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But... The need to run like 100 to 200 or more wallets... Omg...  The number of VM that's needed is insane.  

I am just saying if you have inputs that are 1000 XC that it's automatically treated as one xmixer since the mixing is based on UTXO unspent output anyway.


Indeed, that amount of VM would be hectic.

I wonder if this will be possible... mixing involves continually creating new addresses that fragments are paid to/from, and so the inputs/outputs are multiple and not just a single 1000 XC address.

Conceivably a mixer could get more transactions simply by having more coins available for mixing... and also more network speed, processing power, etc. Perhaps a single mixer could have 50k in it and be on a big server somewhere and thereby generate more revenue. However, I think this would centralise the network dangerously.

On the other hand,  I'm all for incentivising nodes to perform better. Quicker service, or fewer issues, etc. might be pretty important in a web 3.0/blockchain 2.0 scenario.



How many wallet do you need one can run in a pc with 8 gb of ram and a regular internet connection.. lets say 25 to 50 mbts

As long as the xc port number is fixed, one wallet for each public IP address you got.
Or start tricking things with tor

Yes what I mean that all virtual machines will need at least one GB of ram to run so I suppose max 8 wallets but it might be less
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someone want to help me install the wallet on my raspberry pi model B+ ? I bought one for shits and giggles and am having trouble even installing the damn wallet haha.
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But... The need to run like 100 to 200 or more wallets... Omg...  The number of VM that's needed is insane.  

I am just saying if you have inputs that are 1000 XC that it's automatically treated as one xmixer since the mixing is based on UTXO unspent output anyway.


Indeed, that amount of VM would be hectic.

I wonder if this will be possible... mixing involves continually creating new addresses that fragments are paid to/from, and so the inputs/outputs are multiple and not just a single 1000 XC address.

Conceivably a mixer could get more transactions simply by having more coins available for mixing... and also more network speed, processing power, etc. Perhaps a single mixer could have 50k in it and be on a big server somewhere and thereby generate more revenue. However, I think this would centralise the network dangerously.

On the other hand,  I'm all for incentivising nodes to perform better. Quicker service, or fewer issues, etc. might be pretty important in a web 3.0/blockchain 2.0 scenario.



How many wallet do you need one can run in a pc with 8 gb of ram and a regular internet connection.. lets say 25 to 50 mbts

As long as the xc port number is fixed, one wallet for each public IP address you got.
Or start tricking things with tor
sr. member
Activity: 978
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So when this REV2 is release we will be getting paid For our Xnodes now/X mixer whatever were calling it

Hello I was wondering if for the xnode you will need it to run in a single wallet with 1000 xc or can you have multiple xnodes in a single wallet putting 1000 xc in different addresses?

Yes nodes with a dedicated address containing 1000 XC will receive revenue for trustlessly forwarding transactions.

You can run as many wallets as you like. You'd need a virtualisation environment to do this on a single computer.




Do the wallets still need separate public IP or just different VM and single IP is fine?

Yes they still do.

Run them all over TOR.

Oh boy... I think I will need some more bandwidth.   Might get some VM from azure or amazon or something...

Heh. Bring on the tx revenue!




Any chance Dan can make it so that say you have multiple input/address that adds to up more than 1000 XC to act as a xmixer rather than separate wallets?   Say you have 50k in a wallet, then it acts like 50 Xmixers rather than needing to run 50 separate wallets??  

I doubt that'll be a good idea in terms of the blockchain. It's not a good idea to run multiple copies of your wallet.dat and then spend from both. You can corrupt the wallet.dat.

Xmixers will be continually receiving and sending fragments. Imagine how much higher the chances of corrupting your wallet would be with that!

In any case, having several wallets, each with a smaller balance, is more secure. If I had 50k I'd certainly spread them around a bit. :-)



But... The need to run like 100 to 200 or more wallets... Omg...  The number of VM that's needed is insane.  

I am just saying if you have inputs that are 1000 XC that it's automatically treated as one xmixer since the mixing is based on UTXO unspent output anyway.

Indeed, that amount of VM would be hectic.

I wonder if this will be possible... mixing involves continually creating new addresses that fragments are paid to/from, and so the inputs/outputs are multiple and not just a single 1000 XC address.

Conceivably a mixer could get more transactions simply by having more coins available for mixing... and also more network speed, processing power, etc. Perhaps a single mixer could have 50k in it and be on a big server somewhere and thereby generate more revenue. However, I think this would centralise the network dangerously.

On the other hand,  I'm all for incentivising nodes to perform better. Quicker service, or fewer issues, etc. might be pretty important in a web 3.0/blockchain 2.0 scenario.

Atm I'm more looking for answers on two questions
If I have a wallet with more then 1K coins, can I somehow isolate  those 1K coins from the rest so they can stake? Like the previous version with the xmixer address.

And what kind of revenue will be paid,?
 before people start mixing  (and reset coinage all the time) they need to get more than just staking, eg over 34xc a year
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