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sr. member
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From all the supporters FUDding and whining, I must have missed the post where all the details of this "collaboration" was published.  

WTH are you guys all whining about anyway?   FFS, let the team tell us the details of this "collaboration", then you can decide if this is worth fudding about.   Are you guys all Pookie's alt accounts or something?!?!?

EVERY SINGLE TIME there's supposedly some good news, you have a whole bunch of fudders come and turn it into negatives.   WTF dudes.
hero member
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Investments are made in the coin as well as investments in general.
We have some assets that were donated to the coin even before launch.
The main income comes from trading,mining and various projects we fund.
This coin rewards holders and pays a share of revenues generated each month onwards.
Over time more assets will be acquired,the team is doing very well.
The money given to holders is a bonus and not a promise of returns.



What exactly are those assets? Do you have a balance sheet you can share with the group to prove these "assets" exist and can fund monthly payouts?
Donated coins run out, mining difficulties fluctuate, miner issues can happen, trading go negative, these are all serious blows to the QBK coin. Even if one fails, the rest of the coin tumbles like dominos.
What assets will you be acquiring over time ? Can we see a future business plan ?

XC has a real future. Collaborating with QBK is a negative blow to the coin and the community. I think QBK needs XC just to exist. I also think this can be a marketing rue to increase the value of the QBK coin so that it can be dumped later on.
legendary
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i think we lost a great opportunity to overtake other coin's momentum.

just cuz this claimed collaboration.

don't know what you are thinking about.

no doubt. dan is the best dev i have ever seen. but to the marketing strategy, i am lost with these collaborations.

 
sr. member
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Investments are made in the coin as well as investments in general.
We have some assets that were donated to the coin even before launch.
The main income comes from trading,mining and various projects we fund.
This coin rewards holders and pays a share of revenues generated each month onwards.
Over time more assets will be acquired,the team is doing very well.
The money given to holders is a bonus and not a promise of returns.

hero member
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Qibuck is a quality coin engineered with a different concept called 'Asset Backed'.
It is an investment coin and Dan was aware that Qibuck was being worked on even before Qibuck was launched.I had many chats with him on collaboration with this coin.

How is it asset backed? The QBK ANN page is vague and the numbers don't add up. From what I can tell, QBK needs constant investors to keep it alive and it would require reinvestment in other coins for a "hopeful" future payoff. What would happen if the investment strategy fails? Will some people not get paid? Also how will the coin maintain constant payouts to investors?
I played with the numbers on ANN, it doesn't make sense and is not a smart decision for XC to follow such a negative coin.
sr. member
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Qibuck is a quality coin engineered with a different concept called 'Asset Backed'.
It is an investment coin and Dan was aware that Qibuck was being worked on even before Qibuck was launched.I had many chats with him on collaboration with this coin.
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as far as I gathered they are going to work on a shared wallet.. nothing more nothing less.... Oh.. the wallet makes you money... WOOOOT

Dan: I will make up on my word!
legendary
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That just makes the team sound incompetent. Why are we collaborating with QiBuck? XC supposed to be the best coin out there, all tech developed supposed to be original. By collaborating with other coins, we put ourselves with those coins in the same category. Do we really want to be known to associate with QIBuck? If they fail, XC’s reputation fail with it. Do we really want to take that risk? The same thing goes with Dan reviewing other coin. If Dan gave a good review and those coins turns out to be a scam or P&D. What that will do to Dan’s reputation? There are so many scams and shit coins out there, why are we not distance ourselves from them? On top of that, that guy dropped in here announce the news before the XC team can announce it first.

I love the XC team, but this is very sad.


YOU speak out my points.

please, do not collaborate with other coins.

if xc have to, please collaborate with coins with some quality  

two lessons will be learnt

the first one  i almost forgot the name, the coin from jasinlee

now you will see this one. clearly this coin has no idea of naming and branding.


XC is greatest coin, i am still holding. but this kind of collaborating is not we want.  sorry
hero member
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You have clearly not watched the video (from 33m onward) or done some research. If you did you would not say what you just did! PERIOD

I listened and guess what - my opinion didn't change about this collaboration. I see nothing positive about this. Especially about QBK; not a smart coin, no future.
Monero/XMR would have been a smarter choice.
sr. member
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Hi all

I'd like to confirm the news just posted here.

The XC and Qibuck devs are partnering to develop a feature that'll allow nodes to earn money.

A few details:

- We will make an official announcement about this on Friday.

- It's a particularly exciting feature that I'm not sure anyone else has thought of yet.

- The reason for the partnership is that by sharing resources we reduce both development time and costs, and in this case we will not disadvantage XC's market position in any way (more info as to why will follow).

- Silverkinguk (Samuel) is part of the XC team and so if he announces something it can be trusted.

- This is not the undisclosed PR-related development that I mentioned yesterday.



P.S. I've been aware of this development, but was not aware that it would be announced now. My apologies for the confusion.



That just makes the team sound incompetent. Why are we collaborating with QiBuck? XC supposed to be the best coin out there, all tech developed supposed to be original. By collaborating with other coins, we put ourselves with those coins in the same category. Do we really want to be known to associate with QIBuck? If they fail, XC’s reputation fail with it. Do we really want to take that risk? The same thing goes with Dan reviewing other coin. If Dan gave a good review and those coins turns out to be a scam or P&D. What that will do to Dan’s reputation? There are so many scams and shit coins out there, why are we not distance ourselves from them? On top of that, that guy dropped in here announce the news before the XC team can announce it first.

I love the XC team, but this is very sad.


This was my initial reaction,  but the other coin also has an open Dev team.  I'm feeling a little better after looking into things a little more.  Regarding dans code reviews,  if they end up being pump and dumps it's irrelevant,  all he did was review their code,  not their ethics.

@ bisky.  Irony noted lol. 
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[statement]


You have clearly not watched the video (from 33m onward) or done some research. If you did you would not say what you just did! PERIOD
member
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Hi all

I'd like to confirm the news just posted here.

The XC and Qibuck devs are partnering to develop a feature that'll allow nodes to earn money.

A few details:

- We will make an official announcement about this on Friday.

- It's a particularly exciting feature that I'm not sure anyone else has thought of yet.

- The reason for the partnership is that by sharing resources we reduce both development time and costs, and in this case we will not disadvantage XC's market position in any way (more info as to why will follow).

- Silverkinguk (Samuel) is part of the XC team and so if he announces something it can be trusted.

- This is not the undisclosed PR-related development that I mentioned yesterday.



P.S. I've been aware of this development, but was not aware that it would be announced now. My apologies for the confusion.



That just makes the team sound incompetent. Why are we collaborating with QiBuck? XC supposed to be the best coin out there, all tech developed supposed to be original. By collaborating with other coins, we put ourselves with those coins in the same category. Do we really want to be known to associate with QIBuck? If they fail, XC’s reputation fail with it. Do we really want to take that risk? The same thing goes with Dan reviewing other coin. If Dan gave a good review and those coins turns out to be a scam or P&D. What that will do to Dan’s reputation? There are so many scams and shit coins out there, why are we not distance ourselves from them? On top of that, that guy dropped in here announce the news before the XC team can announce it first.

I love the XC team, but this is very sad.
full member
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 been digging through old posts of silverkinguk and qiwoman2 haven't had time to watch in entirety but here: (from: Re: [PRE-ANN] QIBUCK COIN - X13 - POW/POBH - 1st Proof of Baghold and asset backed.)

Here is the link to the show we are halfway through the middle..I hope you enjoy..

http://bitcointalkshow.com/?p=64   Smiley

Loved it! they are fantastic.. (In my opinion)

@ what minute does the show start talking about Qibucks?  Can't find it whilst quickly skimming through the show.
full member
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 been digging through old posts of silverkinguk and qiwoman2 haven't had time to watch in entirety but here: (from: Re: [PRE-ANN] QIBUCK COIN - X13 - POW/POBH - 1st Proof of Baghold and asset backed.)

Here is the link to the show we are halfway through the middle..I hope you enjoy..

http://bitcointalkshow.com/?p=64   Smiley

Loved it! they are fantastic.. (In my opinion)

just start at 33minutes Wink
hero member
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Anyway you slice it, collaboration with QBK = Bad news.
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If it has Dans stamp of approval it can't be bad, He knows what he is doing, I dare not question his judgement too much respect for him.

+ 1.

cryptoland has a funny way of getting you all flustered at the slightest thing. deleted my earlier post. heres to the future.



Sigh you guys are right, I'll get rid of my previous comment as well.

I think your last comment is spot on though.

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what worries me is that crypto markets are mainly driven by emotion and not rationale. So that collaboration with other coins increases the chance for (unsubstantiated) FUD

when that news came out, I got fearful, started panicking and having doubts.

But I trust Dan and XC.

Also Qibuck sounds like an abreviation of "quick buck" which is unfortunate because it seems from the about page they are all about the complete opposite. lol

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QiBuck (pronounced CHEE-buck) is the brainchild of several like-minded people from across the crypto community who were tired of the scams, the disappearing developers, the hype, and the inevitable pump and dump that has followed so many other altcoins.
bwahaha ...you have no idea how you guys just made me laugh! i hope you too can see the irony in all this (from wikipedia)  Grin: In traditional Chinese culture, qi (more precisely qì, also chi, ch'i or ki) is an active principle forming part of any living thing.[1][2][3] Qi is frequently translated as "natural energy", "life force", or "energy flow". Qi is the central underlying principle in traditional Chinese medicine and martial arts. The literal translation of "qi" is "breath", "air", or "gas".

Concepts similar to qi can be found in many cultures, for example, prana in the Hindu religion, pneuma in ancient Greece, mana in Hawaiian culture, lüng in Tibetan Buddhism, ruah in Hebrew culture, and vital energy in Western philosophy. Some elements of qi can be understood in the term energy when used by writers and practitioners of various esoteric forms of spirituality and alternative medicine. Elements of the qi concept can also be found in Western popular culture, for example "The Force" in Star Wars.[4] Notions in the West of energeia, élan vital, or "vitalism" are purported to be similar.[5]
hero member
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I'd stay away from collaborating with certain coins. QBK is one of them. Looks like a ponzi scheme to me.
hero member
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If it has Dans stamp of approval it can't be bad, He knows what he is doing, I dare not question his judgement too much respect for him.

+ 1.

cryptoland has a funny way of getting you all flustered at the slightest thing. deleted my earlier post. heres to the future.



Sigh you guys are right, I'll get rid of my previous comment as well.

OK , I removed your quote from my comment as well, lol.  I feel what you were saying though.

Thank you, I guess leaving my worries about FUD standing could be an incentive for FUD in itself. Besides, I think more people said the same thing as I did so the team is aware.
Speaking of Fud, what ever came about that one thread this weekend about the Multisig crap?
hero member
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If it has Dans stamp of approval it can't be bad, He knows what he is doing, I dare not question his judgement too much respect for him.

+ 1.

cryptoland has a funny way of getting you all flustered at the slightest thing. deleted my earlier post. heres to the future.



Sigh you guys are right, I'll get rid of my previous comment as well.

OK , I removed your quote from my comment as well, lol.  I feel what you were saying though.

Thank you, I guess leaving my worries about FUD standing could be an incentive for FUD in itself. Besides, I think more people said the same thing as I did so the team is aware.
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The main thing that this collaboration proves is that XC is evolving and we are seeing progress made everyday. Can't wait to see what other surprises we'll see in the future.
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