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Topic: [XC][XCurrency] Decentralised Trustless Privacy Platform / Encrypted XChat / Pos - page 770. (Read 1484248 times)

legendary
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To commodify ethicality is to ethicise the market
Hi folks

Another announcement:


We've stated in the past that we value open source code very highly and are privileged to share our ground-breaking tech with the crypto community.

Well today we make our mixing tech - that testing has shown to remove any link between sender and receiver on the blockchain - open source!

This is our Rev 1 mixer code. It is not the trustless mixing that XC currently uses.

You can expect more of XC's tech to be made public as we continue.

Enjoy, world! We hope that this will demonstrate XC's commitment to transparency, information-sharing, and good faith in the crypto community.

http://pastebin.com/G4mH4AxR



sr. member
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There'll be a new version of the EM app coming out before long.


Good stuff!  Grin Grin Grin

Is there a link somewere to more details on the TOR stick?

Is it going to be anything like TAILS with an incorporated XC app?

http://xc-official.com/xc-tor-stick/

cheers cryptico. I did look on the site but couldn't see a link to the TOR page.. also was wondering if there was a bit more detail on what it would be exactly in comparison to TAILS, but as it says on the page...

"Full documentation for the XC TOR Stick will be available here as we approach the actual release date."

So guess I'll wait and see.
legendary
Activity: 1190
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To commodify ethicality is to ethicise the market
We need to get Edward Snowden using it, that would increase publicity.... HE uses 3 different machines at the moment to contact the outside world and encrypted chat.. Anyone know how to contact him!? Cheesy

If the chat is directly between the two nodes, it would give away his IP address. Probably not what he wants.

The message transportation is based on TOR? or multipath approach?

Actually it's the other way round: multipath is based on the Xnode protocol, which is how nodes send messages to each other (of any kind - EM or transactions).

TOR only obfuscates IP addresses, it doesn't send messages.


full member
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XC
We need to get Edward Snowden using it, that would increase publicity.... HE uses 3 different machines at the moment to contact the outside world and encrypted chat.. Anyone know how to contact him!? Cheesy

If the chat is directly between the two nodes, it would give away his IP address. Probably not what he wants.

The message transportation is based on TOR? or multipath approach?
hero member
Activity: 700
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There'll be a new version of the EM app coming out before long.


Good stuff!  Grin Grin Grin

Is there a link somewere to more details on the TOR stick?

Is it going to be anything like TAILS with an incorporated XC app?

http://xc-official.com/xc-tor-stick/
legendary
Activity: 1190
Merit: 1000
To commodify ethicality is to ethicise the market
There'll be a new version of the EM app coming out before long.

The word is that it will feature a "Skype-like" messaging interface, with a list of users on the left.


Nice,
- are the messages stored in the blockchain?
- can you chat if you're behind a firewall or nat and can't do port forwarding?


- Messages go through the end-to-end encrypted P2P tunnelling built into the core of the Xnode right back in Rev 1.

- Basically where Bitcoin has a broadcasting system, XC has the encrypted Xnode protocol.

- This means that your messages don't get preserved for perpetuity in a blockchain (which would be a terrible idea for private messaging :-)

- Technical details re. firewalls, NAT, etc. will become available upon the release.





Will the messaging require XC coin to be held to use?  Like a token... Therefore increasing demand for the currency?  Not a pay to use system but rather a proof that you hold xc?

I don't think so. Actually I think we'd prefer to lower the barrier to entry because it maximises the number of chat users. More chat users means more apps left running, which means more nodes to process transactions :-)

But yeah, some sort of minimum XC requirement might be a good idea too.



Sorry I'm confused about the terminology, is the end-to-end encrypted P2P tunneling a direct tunnel between the two chatting nodes, or does it route through other nodes?


Update from Dan:

XC messaging has an advantage over many chat apps because if you're not online, it's still possible to send you messages.

The current setting stores pending messages for 48 hours; this could be extended in future.

Lastly, it's more of a chat app than an email app at present. Nice to have that clarified.



It's not direct since this is effectively XC's broadcasting system. That's how pending messages can be stored and delivered when you come online.


CORRECTION: it is direct. Hah, glad I double-checked with the devs about this.

Messages are still stored when the recipient is offline.



Is it going to be as secure as PGP messaging (not that I understand this a great deal)

Basically, will the messages be 100% unreadable by anyone other than sender and receiver?



It'll be a LOT more secure.

It uses public key encryption, like the rest of a cryptocurrency.

Plus it's decentralised. No third parties. Done.

Good stuff!  Grin Grin Grin

Is there a link somewere to more details on the TOR stick?

Is it going to be anything like TAILS with an incorporated XC app?

It's a Debian thing if I'm not mistaken.

Basically it's its own operating system, is pretty much immune to malware.

Yes, it has the app incorporated into it.

sr. member
Activity: 364
Merit: 250
There'll be a new version of the EM app coming out before long.

The word is that it will feature a "Skype-like" messaging interface, with a list of users on the left.


Nice,
- are the messages stored in the blockchain?
- can you chat if you're behind a firewall or nat and can't do port forwarding?


- Messages go through the end-to-end encrypted P2P tunnelling built into the core of the Xnode right back in Rev 1.

- Basically where Bitcoin has a broadcasting system, XC has the encrypted Xnode protocol.

- This means that your messages don't get preserved for perpetuity in a blockchain (which would be a terrible idea for private messaging :-)

- Technical details re. firewalls, NAT, etc. will become available upon the release.





Will the messaging require XC coin to be held to use?  Like a token... Therefore increasing demand for the currency?  Not a pay to use system but rather a proof that you hold xc?

I don't think so. Actually I think we'd prefer to lower the barrier to entry because it maximises the number of chat users. More chat users means more apps left running, which means more nodes to process transactions :-)

But yeah, some sort of minimum XC requirement might be a good idea too.



Sorry I'm confused about the terminology, is the end-to-end encrypted P2P tunneling a direct tunnel between the two chatting nodes, or does it route through other nodes?


Update from Dan:

XC messaging has an advantage over many chat apps because if you're not online, it's still possible to send you messages.

The current setting stores pending messages for 48 hours; this could be extended in future.

Lastly, it's more of a chat app than an email app at present. Nice to have that clarified.



It's not direct since this is effectively XC's broadcasting system. That's how pending messages can be stored and delivered when you come online.


CORRECTION: it is direct. Hah, glad I double-checked with the devs about this.

Messages are still stored when the recipient is offline.



Is it going to be as secure as PGP messaging (not that I understand this a great deal)

Basically, will the messages be 100% unreadable by anyone other than sender and receiver?



It'll be a LOT more secure.

It uses public key encryption, like the rest of a cryptocurrency.

Plus it's decentralised. No third parties. Done.

Good stuff!  Grin Grin Grin

Is there a link somewere to more details on the TOR stick?

Is it going to be anything like TAILS with an incorporated XC app?
full member
Activity: 165
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Yes, I agree. Most interesting thing I found was the new Wallet UI pre-view! together with this link Drasticraven.deviantart.com I am pretty XCited

Also the marketing tab seems nice. Could we sometimes get some sneak peaks to keep us in the loop?

Yeah, I'm super-excited about the upcoming UI. It's gonna be awesome.

I've actually been working on possibilities for more sensible menu layouts, since the current one is clunky and coin control is unnecessarily confusing.

But my current favourite is the upcoming tech to added to the final Rev 2 update. ;-)



Do you know what kind of tek will be delivered? can you give us an Inch? Smiley. I was just wondering as well, which version of the wallet is now in the TOR download for the Stick? and can you update it from the TOR Stick how this will work in the future?

Hmm... what can I disclose?


I'll tell you that it's very smart and will nullify a certain attack vector.

I'll tell you that no other coin has done it.


As for the TOR Stick, you'll all be able to start ordering it soon enough, and when you receive it, it should have Rev 3 on it. :-)




this roadmap provides the lot of information regarding the coin so it is a good explanation.

does the red line under Xnode imply that there is a problem with the tech? is this the reason why the price wont go up?  Huh Huh
jk, dont answer  Grin Grin Grin
hero member
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XC is great and all, but if it stays this cheap I doubt store owners will accept it in their stores, this is just my view on it.
We need to work towards getting XC accepted in stores.
hero member
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We need to get Edward Snowden using it, that would increase publicity.... HE uses 3 different machines at the moment to contact the outside world and encrypted chat.. Anyone know how to contact him!? Cheesy

Maybe The official PR can contact RT TV and they might be able to contact him. This will be Huge if we can manage to do it
hero member
Activity: 966
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We need to get Edward Snowden using it, that would increase publicity.... HE uses 3 different machines at the moment to contact the outside world and encrypted chat.. Anyone know how to contact him!? Cheesy

If the chat is directly between the two nodes, it would give away his IP address. Probably not what he wants.
full member
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Crypto Currency Supporter
We need to get Edward Snowden using it, that would increase publicity.... HE uses 3 different machines at the moment to contact the outside world and encrypted chat.. Anyone know how to contact him!? Cheesy

maybe XC from the get-go was supposed to be an NSA means in contacting snowden
hero member
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It'll be a LOT more secure.

It uses public key encryption, like the rest of a cryptocurrency.

Plus it's decentralised. No third parties. Done.

HUGE
hero member
Activity: 518
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We need to get Edward Snowden using it, that would increase publicity.... HE uses 3 different machines at the moment to contact the outside world and encrypted chat.. Anyone know how to contact him!? Cheesy
legendary
Activity: 1190
Merit: 1000
To commodify ethicality is to ethicise the market
There'll be a new version of the EM app coming out before long.

The word is that it will feature a "Skype-like" messaging interface, with a list of users on the left.


Nice,
- are the messages stored in the blockchain?
- can you chat if you're behind a firewall or nat and can't do port forwarding?


- Messages go through the end-to-end encrypted P2P tunnelling built into the core of the Xnode right back in Rev 1.

- Basically where Bitcoin has a broadcasting system, XC has the encrypted Xnode protocol.

- This means that your messages don't get preserved for perpetuity in a blockchain (which would be a terrible idea for private messaging :-)

- Technical details re. firewalls, NAT, etc. will become available upon the release.





Will the messaging require XC coin to be held to use?  Like a token... Therefore increasing demand for the currency?  Not a pay to use system but rather a proof that you hold xc?

I don't think so. Actually I think we'd prefer to lower the barrier to entry because it maximises the number of chat users. More chat users means more apps left running, which means more nodes to process transactions :-)

But yeah, some sort of minimum XC requirement might be a good idea too.



Sorry I'm confused about the terminology, is the end-to-end encrypted P2P tunneling a direct tunnel between the two chatting nodes, or does it route through other nodes?


Update from Dan:

XC messaging has an advantage over many chat apps because if you're not online, it's still possible to send you messages.

The current setting stores pending messages for 48 hours; this could be extended in future.

Lastly, it's more of a chat app than an email app at present. Nice to have that clarified.



It's not direct since this is effectively XC's broadcasting system. That's how pending messages can be stored and delivered when you come online.


CORRECTION: it is direct. Hah, glad I double-checked with the devs about this.

Messages are still stored when the recipient is offline.



Is it going to be as secure as PGP messaging (not that I understand this a great deal)

Basically, will the messages be 100% unreadable by anyone other than sender and receiver?



It'll be a LOT more secure.

It uses public key encryption, like the rest of a cryptocurrency.

Plus it's decentralised. No third parties. Done.
sr. member
Activity: 364
Merit: 250
There'll be a new version of the EM app coming out before long.

The word is that it will feature a "Skype-like" messaging interface, with a list of users on the left.


Nice,
- are the messages stored in the blockchain?
- can you chat if you're behind a firewall or nat and can't do port forwarding?


- Messages go through the end-to-end encrypted P2P tunnelling built into the core of the Xnode right back in Rev 1.

- Basically where Bitcoin has a broadcasting system, XC has the encrypted Xnode protocol.

- This means that your messages don't get preserved for perpetuity in a blockchain (which would be a terrible idea for private messaging :-)

- Technical details re. firewalls, NAT, etc. will become available upon the release.





Will the messaging require XC coin to be held to use?  Like a token... Therefore increasing demand for the currency?  Not a pay to use system but rather a proof that you hold xc?

I don't think so. Actually I think we'd prefer to lower the barrier to entry because it maximises the number of chat users. More chat users means more apps left running, which means more nodes to process transactions :-)

But yeah, some sort of minimum XC requirement might be a good idea too.



Sorry I'm confused about the terminology, is the end-to-end encrypted P2P tunneling a direct tunnel between the two chatting nodes, or does it route through other nodes?


Update from Dan:

XC messaging has an advantage over many chat apps because if you're not online, it's still possible to send you messages.

The current setting stores pending messages for 48 hours; this could be extended in future.

Lastly, it's more of a chat app than an email app at present. Nice to have that clarified.



It's not direct since this is effectively XC's broadcasting system. That's how pending messages can be stored and delivered when you come online.


CORRECTION: it is direct. Hah, glad I double-checked with the devs about this.

Messages are still stored when the recipient is offline.



Is it going to be as secure as PGP messaging (not that I understand this a great deal)

Basically, will the messages be 100% unreadable by anyone other than sender and receiver?

legendary
Activity: 1190
Merit: 1000
To commodify ethicality is to ethicise the market
There'll be a new version of the EM app coming out before long.

The word is that it will feature a "Skype-like" messaging interface, with a list of users on the left.


Nice,
- are the messages stored in the blockchain?
- can you chat if you're behind a firewall or nat and can't do port forwarding?


- Messages go through the end-to-end encrypted P2P tunnelling built into the core of the Xnode right back in Rev 1.

- Basically where Bitcoin has a broadcasting system, XC has the encrypted Xnode protocol.

- This means that your messages don't get preserved for perpetuity in a blockchain (which would be a terrible idea for private messaging :-)

- Technical details re. firewalls, NAT, etc. will become available upon the release.





Will the messaging require XC coin to be held to use?  Like a token... Therefore increasing demand for the currency?  Not a pay to use system but rather a proof that you hold xc?

I don't think so. Actually I think we'd prefer to lower the barrier to entry because it maximises the number of chat users. More chat users means more apps left running, which means more nodes to process transactions :-)

But yeah, some sort of minimum XC requirement might be a good idea too.



Sorry I'm confused about the terminology, is the end-to-end encrypted P2P tunneling a direct tunnel between the two chatting nodes, or does it route through other nodes?


Update from Dan:

XC messaging has an advantage over many chat apps because if you're not online, it's still possible to send you messages.

The current setting stores pending messages for 48 hours; this could be extended in future.

Lastly, it's more of a chat app than an email app at present. Nice to have that clarified.



It's not direct since this is effectively XC's broadcasting system. That's how pending messages can be stored and delivered when you come online.


CORRECTION: it is direct. Hah, glad I double-checked with the devs about this.

Messages are still stored when the recipient is offline.

legendary
Activity: 1190
Merit: 1000
To commodify ethicality is to ethicise the market
There'll be a new version of the EM app coming out before long.

The word is that it will feature a "Skype-like" messaging interface, with a list of users on the left.


Nice,
- are the messages stored in the blockchain?
- can you chat if you're behind a firewall or nat and can't do port forwarding?


- Messages go through the end-to-end encrypted P2P tunnelling built into the core of the Xnode right back in Rev 1.

- Basically where Bitcoin has a broadcasting system, XC has the encrypted Xnode protocol.

- This means that your messages don't get preserved for perpetuity in a blockchain (which would be a terrible idea for private messaging :-)

- Technical details re. firewalls, NAT, etc. will become available upon the release.





Will the messaging require XC coin to be held to use?  Like a token... Therefore increasing demand for the currency?  Not a pay to use system but rather a proof that you hold xc?

I don't think so. Actually I think we'd prefer to lower the barrier to entry because it maximises the number of chat users. More chat users means more apps left running, which means more nodes to process transactions :-)

But yeah, some sort of minimum XC requirement might be a good idea too.



Update from Dan:

XC messaging has an advantage over many chat apps because if you're not online, it's still possible to send you messages.

The current setting stores pending messages for 48 hours; this could be extended in future.

Lastly, it's more of a chat app than an email app at present. Nice to have that clarified.

hero member
Activity: 966
Merit: 1003
There'll be a new version of the EM app coming out before long.

The word is that it will feature a "Skype-like" messaging interface, with a list of users on the left.


Nice,
- are the messages stored in the blockchain?
- can you chat if you're behind a firewall or nat and can't do port forwarding?


- Messages go through the end-to-end encrypted P2P tunnelling built into the core of the Xnode right back in Rev 1.

- Basically where Bitcoin has a broadcasting system, XC has the encrypted Xnode protocol.

- This means that your messages don't get preserved for perpetuity in a blockchain (which would be a terrible idea for private messaging :-)

- Technical details re. firewalls, NAT, etc. will become available upon the release.

Sorry I'm confused about the terminology, is the end-to-end encrypted P2P tunneling a direct tunnel between the two chatting nodes, or does it route through other nodes?
legendary
Activity: 1190
Merit: 1000
To commodify ethicality is to ethicise the market
There'll be a new version of the EM app coming out before long.

The word is that it will feature a "Skype-like" messaging interface, with a list of users on the left.


Nice,
- are the messages stored in the blockchain?
- can you chat if you're behind a firewall or nat and can't do port forwarding?


- Messages go through the end-to-end encrypted P2P tunnelling built into the core of the Xnode right back in Rev 1.

- Basically where Bitcoin has a broadcasting system, XC has the encrypted Xnode protocol.

- This means that your messages don't get preserved for perpetuity in a blockchain (which would be a terrible idea for private messaging :-)

- Technical details re. firewalls, NAT, etc. will become available upon the release.





Will the messaging require XC coin to be held to use?  Like a token... Therefore increasing demand for the currency?  Not a pay to use system but rather a proof that you hold xc?

I don't think so. Actually I think we'd prefer to lower the barrier to entry because it maximises the number of chat users. More chat users means more apps left running, which means more nodes to process transactions :-)

But yeah, some sort of minimum XC requirement might be a good idea too.

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