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Topic: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - page 1030. (Read 4670673 times)

legendary
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I know this topic has been covered before, but I'm asking the Monero community to please consider changing the name to something more descriptive of what the coin does.

Before people jump in with the "Esperanto" reply...I know about that, but only because I've been following this coin and other cryptonote coins. It's an interesting name. The problem is that >90% of people have no idea what Esperanto is, nor do they care.

A brand name is very important. How about something that describes what the coin does, such as:

  • PrivacyCash
  • PrivacyCoin
  • eCash
  • eCoin

Those names somewhat describe what the coin does and hint at its features. This is important if it expects adoption outside of the techie circles. I suggested the same points on the Fantomcoin thread. I have a handful of each coin.

I say this because I want to see cryptonote coins succeed. I think they are a valuable compliment to Bitcoin since they offer complete privacy whereas Bitcoin is pseudoanonymous. There are legitimate needs and uses for each. A more descriptive name would, imho, have a broader appeal to the general population.

Why dont we rename Monero to Darkcoin now that it is available just for the lols Tongue

99% of the shitcoins in this forum is doing exactly what you propose. I am glad that monero isnt. Monero as a name is perfect for many reasons and one of them is that it differentiates itself from the rest. Another is that by being in esperanto it is universal.

And i think that people on this forum know what monero does. If they dont it is our job to inform them with serious posts and infographics. In the end, i dont care for people who will choose a coin just because of the name.

hero member
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eidoo wallet
I know this topic has been covered before, but I'm asking the Monero community to please consider changing the name to something more descriptive of what the coin does.

Before people jump in with the "Esperanto" reply...I know about that, but only because I've been following this coin and other cryptonote coins. It's an interesting name. The problem is that >90% of people have no idea what Esperanto is, nor do they care.

A brand name is very important. How about something that describes what the coin does, such as:

  • PrivacyCash
  • PrivacyCoin
  • eCash
  • eCoin

Those names somewhat describe what the coin does and hint at its features. This is important if it expects adoption outside of the techie circles. I suggested the same points on the Fantomcoin thread. I have a handful of each coin.

I say this because I want to see cryptonote coins succeed. I think they are a valuable compliment to Bitcoin since they offer complete privacy whereas Bitcoin is pseudoanonymous. There are legitimate needs and uses for each. A more descriptive name would, imho, have a broader appeal to the general population.

One of the reasons I went with Monero over BBR, besides its large development team, is it's name. It's unique in a sea of (x)coins, (x)cash's, and limiting the name to something only around privacy is restrictive, it would alienate people who want transparency, and vice versa, neutrality is key. The Esperanto background is also a good conversation starter.
sr. member
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I know this topic has been covered before, but I'm asking the Monero community to please consider changing the name to something more descriptive of what the coin does.

Before people jump in with the "Esperanto" reply...I know about that, but only because I've been following this coin and other cryptonote coins. It's an interesting name. The problem is that >90% of people have no idea what Esperanto is, nor do they care.

A brand name is very important. How about something that describes what the coin does, such as:

  • PrivacyCash
  • PrivacyCoin
  • eCash
  • eCoin

Those names somewhat describe what the coin does and hint at its features. This is important if it expects adoption outside of the techie circles. I suggested the same points on the Fantomcoin thread. I have a handful of each coin.

I say this because I want to see cryptonote coins succeed. I think they are a valuable compliment to Bitcoin since they offer complete privacy whereas Bitcoin is pseudoanonymous. There are legitimate needs and uses for each. A more descriptive name would, imho, have a broader appeal to the general population.

Digital Cash? oh..wait...
hero member
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I know this topic has been covered before, but I'm asking the Monero community to please consider changing the name to something more descriptive of what the coin does.

Before people jump in with the "Esperanto" reply...I know about that, but only because I've been following this coin and other cryptonote coins. It's an interesting name. The problem is that >90% of people have no idea what Esperanto is, nor do they care.

A brand name is very important. How about something that describes what the coin does, such as:

  • PrivacyCash
  • PrivacyCoin
  • eCash
  • eCoin

Those names somewhat describe what the coin does and hint at its features. This is important if it expects adoption outside of the techie circles. I suggested the same points on the Fantomcoin thread. I have a handful of each coin.

I say this because I want to see cryptonote coins succeed. I think they are a valuable compliment to Bitcoin since they offer complete privacy whereas Bitcoin is pseudoanonymous. There are legitimate needs and uses for each. A more descriptive name would, imho, have a broader appeal to the general population.
legendary
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Something I've recently noticed that has happened a whole lot with btc based currencies, for myself - I've had probably an easy 40-50+ monero wallets and the only one that ever got corrupted/unusable was with one of the GUI clients (this was literally a day or two after they had come out, and I can't even remember if it was corrupted or just not usable with simplewallet or i just forgot the pw). With bitcoin and bitcoin forks, I've probably had a few hundred different wallets, and I can say for sure I've had at least 5-6 corrupted wallets that resulted in a direct loss of funds (pretty sure I even have one or two stashed away somewhere - probably recoverable someday), from just actual random usage of the client - nothing out of the ordinary (obviously something was out of the ordinary, but something I'd like to expect to be able to do like close the program whenever I want to).

Anyways - has anyone else had the same experience (where corrupt wallet files happen much less often in CN than satoshi codebases)? Any ideas why if so?

The bitcoin wallets are a database (bdb). In theory databases are supposed to be immune to corruption but in practice there are programming bugs and OS and hardware issues (write barriers not enforced properly by OS and hardware) that can cause corruption.

CN wallets are two things:

1. Keys file, which is never changed after creation, so almost no opportunity for corruption.

2. dat file, which is a serialized data structure that gets replaced every time. On Windows this can be get corrupted because there is no good and simple atomic way to replace a file. On Linux you can simply write the new version and then rename, which usually works in practice even when write barriers are messed up (in theory it needn't entirely work for several complicated reasons but it often does anyway). Even if this file does get corrupted you can recreate it with no loss of funds or, I think, data.

 

legendary
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It's his opinion. That's what an open forum is about. Get over it.

You guys might wanna reign in kazuki49. Just sayin'

SDC is a useless piece of scamcoin.

Baseless FUD. I thought you XMR guys were supposed to be classier than that?
Turns out this XMR supporter is a common variety garden troll…

*drops mic*
legendary
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Whimsical Pants
You guys might wanna reign in kazuki49. Just sayin'

SDC is a useless piece of scamcoin.

Baseless FUD. I thought you XMR guys were supposed to be classier than that?
Turns out this XMR supporter is a common variety garden troll…

*drops mic*

Nobody here controls what he does... I'd imagine few of us know who the hell he is.  Who told you to post here?  Should I have him reign YOU in?  See how that's kinda silly?
full member
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You guys might wanna reign in kazuki49. Just sayin'

SDC is a useless piece of scamcoin.

Baseless FUD. I thought you XMR guys were supposed to be classier than that?
Turns out this XMR supporter is a common variety garden troll…

*drops mic*
G2M
sr. member
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Something I've recently noticed that has happened a whole lot with btc based currencies, for myself - I've had probably an easy 40-50+ monero wallets and the only one that ever got corrupted/unusable was with one of the GUI clients (this was literally a day or two after they had come out, and I can't even remember if it was corrupted or just not usable with simplewallet or i just forgot the pw). With bitcoin and bitcoin forks, I've probably had a few hundred different wallets, and I can say for sure I've had at least 5-6 corrupted wallets that resulted in a direct loss of funds (pretty sure I even have one or two stashed away somewhere - probably recoverable someday), from just actual random usage of the client - nothing out of the ordinary (obviously something was out of the ordinary, but something I'd like to expect to be able to do like close the program whenever I want to).

Anyways - has anyone else had the same experience (where corrupt wallet files happen much less often in CN than satoshi codebases)? Any ideas why if so?
legendary
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For 5 XMR, I'll create a rendering of Monero + your name or any text you like, on a background of your choice. I can also do customs with Monero also Smiley My addy is in my sig.


NOTE: Since some of you are PMing me, these are NOT physical signs, they are just renderings with whatever you want on it Smiley

^^ these would look really good IRL.

Yes! It can possibly be done on a CNC machine (I have access to a couple).
legendary
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legendary
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donator
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GetMonero.org / MyMonero.com
So are the devs moving over to using your code? I mean it would be a shame for you to have rewritten all of the code to be cross platform and then are forced to implement all of their improvements in parallel for all eternity.

No - just like Bitcoin Core hasn't moved over to Armory or Electrum or whatever. MoneroX and lightWallet use normal Monero RPC calls, so they're still touching underlying sub-systems that we'll continue to support via a backwards compatibility layer, and I'm certain that they'll move towards supporting the proposed RPC API (Jojatekok has played a big part in the technical spec for that after all).
legendary
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After a long phase of waiting, and many stressful months using the command-line Monero core binaries, finally there comes a solution! In the past few weeks, I've been working on rewriting the whole application in the Eto.Forms framework in order to support multiple platforms, including Windows, Linux, and Mac. Today, I'm proud to announce the release of



(Thanks for the logo, fluffypony! Wink)

While MoneroX has basically no graphical changes compared to Monero Client .NET, its code has been rewritten from scratch. Thus, the performance and reliablity has also increased during this process. The localization files could also have been kept, however, there are still a few features missing when compared to the old WPF project (backup manager, instant input validation, progress bar text). Transactions are now displayed in groups, so it should be significantly easier to account your holdings.

The new releases can be downloaded from GitHub. Hopefully, I'll be able to figure out how to compile MoneroX for Mac soon.

Please post your toughts, feedbacks, bug reports, or feature requests, as every single opinion counts in my opinion. Smiley
If you like this project, please donate to one of the addresses which can be found in my signature.

So are the devs moving over to using your code? I mean it would be a shame for you to have rewritten all of the code to be cross platform and then are forced to implement all of their improvements in parallel for all eternity.
sr. member
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After a long phase of waiting, and many stressful months using the command-line Monero core binaries, finally there comes a solution! In the past few weeks, I've been working on rewriting the whole application in the Eto.Forms framework in order to support multiple platforms, including Windows, Linux, and Mac. Today, I'm proud to announce the release of



(Thanks for the logo, fluffypony! Wink)

While MoneroX has basically no graphical changes compared to Monero Client .NET, its code has been rewritten from scratch. Thus, the performance and reliablity has also increased during this process. The localization files could also have been kept, however, there are still a few features missing when compared to the old WPF project (backup manager, instant input validation, progress bar text). Transactions are now displayed in groups, so it should be significantly easier to account your holdings.

The new releases can be downloaded from GitHub. Hopefully, I'll be able to figure out how to compile MoneroX for Mac soon.

Please post your toughts, feedbacks, bug reports, or feature requests, as every single opinion counts in my opinion. Smiley
If you like this project, please donate to one of the addresses which can be found in my signature.
legendary
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Before anybody gets the idea that Monero is very difficult to use I would like to tell a story from the Drooling Masses©, that be me.

I use windows, what else, and installed Monero with the help of the kind and patient people ITT last June.  There is nobody noobier than me.  I was also able to install and run a miner, update the client and use simple wallet.

I imagine things will get easier going forward. 

I don't know anyone who had issues running it on Windows unless they had antiquated hardware with not enough RAM, which by the way is fixed with the blockchain database implementation.  It's worked great for me every time.
legendary
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Before anybody gets the idea that Monero is very difficult to use I would like to tell a story from the Drooling Masses©, that be me.

I use windows, what else, and installed Monero with the help of the kind and patient people ITT last June.  There is nobody noobier than me.  I was also able to install and run a miner, update the client and use simple wallet.

I imagine things will get easier going forward. 
legendary
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I can confirm this. Idk what a computer expert is, but I'm more capable than 98% of people atleast. Back when i had to compile it myself that was a huge pain. I'm so glad i could just grab some binaries this time. It was easier with binaries but still a pain. It needed so many dependencies. I wasnt about to sit there and install them all manually one at a time so i went looking for a solution and learned about aptitude. It was a great find, im glad to know about aptitude now. But yea i mean that was a process and involved some research and some time, i had to search around to find something like aptitude then i had to spend a little bit of time with it learning how it worked. Its a very real barrier that not everyone can overcome.

Out of curiosity, what OS do you use? Because typically you'd always use a packet manager (like aptitude), and if you don't it's consciously and on purpose (slackware for instance).


Linux mint. I was just using the standard package manager aptget. It didn't install dependencies automatically.

Ok. Probably a wrong config somewhere, or you got to fiddle with packages and what actually solved your issues isn't exactly what you thought, because aptitude is just a front-end for APT (the software that does apt-get and co).

Maybe. There was a install with all dependencies option with aptitude. I didnt see an option like that with aptget but just because i didn't see it doesn't mean it wasn't there.
legendary
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Still wild and free
[...]

I can confirm this. Idk what a computer expert is, but I'm more capable than 98% of people atleast. Back when i had to compile it myself that was a huge pain. I'm so glad i could just grab some binaries this time. It was easier with binaries but still a pain. It needed so many dependencies. I wasnt about to sit there and install them all manually one at a time so i went looking for a solution and learned about aptitude. It was a great find, im glad to know about aptitude now. But yea i mean that was a process and involved some research and some time, i had to search around to find something like aptitude then i had to spend a little bit of time with it learning how it worked. Its a very real barrier that not everyone can overcome.

Out of curiosity, what OS do you use? Because typically you'd always use a packet manager (like aptitude), and if you don't it's consciously and on purpose (slackware for instance).


Linux mint. I was just using the standard package manager aptget. It didn't install dependencies automatically.

Ok. Probably a wrong config somewhere, or you got to fiddle with packages and what actually solved your issues isn't exactly what you thought, because aptitude is just a front-end for APT (the software that does apt-get and co).
legendary
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Antifragile

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It is not a Bitcoin clone, and the wallet is only officially available via command line – no graphical user interface is available for this piece of technology yet.


lol, why do they have to mention it doesn't have a GUI? How come this is always so important.
Shouldn't the privacy features be more important in a article such as this one?


Its comical with the GUI wallet.  That's all anyone ever picks on.

I was a computer expert a few years back and honestly had problems installing the wallet(s) on my Mac. I did finally get it installed but didn't have faith in the installation due to so many problems I experienced. (I got the blockchain downloaded no problem.) I was only able to run the wallet by (excuse my lack of terms here) double clicking an exe file, not from an actual installation. (Something about my Mac environment stopped me from being able to do a true install and it was in the instructions but I couldn't get past it.) So, I didn't want to chance using it. I moved half my XMR's from Poloniex to Mintpal and the latter are history (and it was a nice chunk for me). Rather, those were history as I got them
returned a few weeks back, as did others. Anyway, Had there been an online wallet or even a wallet less problematic on my Mac, I wouldn't have moved any to Mintpal - but my bad as I didn't research the place. It was literally like within a week or two of the move!

I've mined BTC, run a full node, worked in IT, etc. so I really should have figured out the wallet problem within a few hours, didn't, so gave up. I went beyond a typical user install imo.

Suffice to say, there is a whole world of users out there who want a GUI (nothing command line except for higher functionality) due to ease of use. Knowing I was a computer expert and should have figured it out I can understand how lack of a GUI is really holding people back (at least if they experienced problems on install like me, Windows I hadn't heard of being problematic.)

IAS

I can confirm this. Idk what a computer expert is, but I'm more capable than 98% of people atleast. Back when i had to compile it myself that was a huge pain. I'm so glad i could just grab some binaries this time. It was easier with binaries but still a pain. It needed so many dependencies. I wasnt about to sit there and install them all manually one at a time so i went looking for a solution and learned about aptitude. It was a great find, im glad to know about aptitude now. But yea i mean that was a process and involved some research and some time, i had to search around to find something like aptitude then i had to spend a little bit of time with it learning how it worked. Its a very real barrier that not everyone can overcome.

I was a database administrator and systems administrator on Unix and Linux, with a teeny bit of Windows when I had no choice.
I knew Perl and could write some basic scripts. I knew about dependencies (which was what I was talking about before - it did me in with the Monero wallet install, so many probs for me.)
Yeah, so I was (key word) extremely knowledgeable when it came to computer related stuff. No longer an expert but I still dabble here and there with Linux and so when I failed at the
wallet install that was both a hit to my ego and I was pissed! LOL

And as your suffice to say, comment said, I really do think a GUI is needed. That will open us to so many more people. Luckily the game is early in the going so we are probably not really too bad time wise.

In a sense we need to think along the lines of what BTC'ers have been saying for a while now - "We need that killer App." and to a point, a nice wallet (on smart phones especially) is going to be that Killer App imo.
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