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Topic: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - page 1030. (Read 4671660 times)

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Why dont we rename Monero to Darkcoin now that it is available just for the lols Tongue

This genuinely made me laugh Tongue
legendary
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the only kind of credibility is "perceived credibility".


Of course. We only know as far as we're aware. Are you a fan of Bertrand Russell's two heads argument?

That we have two heads suggests that our perception is the same reality-tunnel that bridges the two together.

From the same book linked,
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Obviously, the faster we process information, the more rich and complex our models or glosses — our reality-tunnels — will become. Resistance to new information, however, has a strong neurological foundation in all animals, as indicated by studies of imprinting and conditioning. Most animals, including most domesticated primates (humans) show a truly staggering ability to "ignore" certain kinds of information — that which does not "fit" their imprinted/conditioned reality-tunnel. We generally call this "conservatism" or "stupidity", but it appears in all parts of the political spectrum, and in learned societies as well as in the Ku Klux Klan.
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I do agree with Perseus that the comment was baseless because it did not provide a sound argument, even if a valid statement, and in forgoing so, causes him (and, though to a lesser extent, by unavoidable proxy, Monero) diminished credibility.

Thats exactly what he wants you to think... he is using Monero to shut me up, I already showed that I don't care about my perceived credibility so that was next obvious step, if this was IRL I would be sleeping with the fishes tonight, because thats the nature of his people. I'm really sorry (and only) about going offtopic here, I thought he was an obvious troll and people would just ignore.

what a load of waffle. im not trolling, you are.
the only kind of credibility is "perceived credibility".
legendary
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I do agree with Perseus that the comment was baseless because it did not provide a sound argument, even if a valid statement, and in forgoing so, causes him (and, though to a lesser extent, by unavoidable proxy, Monero) diminished credibility.

Thats exactly what he wants you to think... he is using Monero to shut me up, I already showed that I don't care about my perceived credibility so that was next obvious step, if this was IRL I would be sleeping with the fishes tonight, because thats the nature of his people. I'm really sorry (and only) about going offtopic here, I though he was an obvious troll and people would just ignore.

I see every trolling as an opportunity to elucidate Smiley

and I think, if you can take the time to post something then you can take the time to post something good.
legendary
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I do agree with Perseus that the comment was baseless because it did not provide a sound argument, even if a valid statement, and in forgoing so, causes him (and, though to a lesser extent, by unavoidable proxy, Monero) diminished credibility.

Pro tip: http://courses.durhamtech.edu/perkins/aris.html
quickly: The audience isn't you! Emphasize logos for hostile audiences, as pathos is mostly effective with friendly audiences, and balance the two for neutral audiences.
legendary
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It's his opinion. That's what an open forum is about. Get over it.

You guys might wanna reign in kazuki49. Just sayin'

SDC is a useless piece of scamcoin.

Baseless FUD. I thought you XMR guys were supposed to be classier than that?
Turns out this XMR supporter is a common variety garden troll…

*drops mic*

C'mon smooth - it's blatant FUD / baseless accusations. I defend his right to express his views too but not to the extent I'd have him spread excrement over this forum and stand idly by.

Don't stand idly by, respond to it if you wish, but is has nothing to do with Monero just because he supports Monero. I support Bitcoin; if I post something you don't like are you going to start posting on Bitcoin threads complaining about me?

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It's his opinion. That's what an open forum is about. Get over it.

You guys might wanna reign in kazuki49. Just sayin'

SDC is a useless piece of scamcoin.

Baseless FUD. I thought you XMR guys were supposed to be classier than that?
Turns out this XMR supporter is a common variety garden troll…

*drops mic*

C'mon smooth - it's blatant FUD / baseless accusations. I defend his right to express his views too but not to the extent I'd have him spread excrement over this forum and stand idly by.
legendary
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getmonero.org
I know this topic has been covered before, but I'm asking the Monero community to please consider changing the name to something more descriptive of what the coin does.

Before people jump in with the "Esperanto" reply...I know about that, but only because I've been following this coin and other cryptonote coins. It's an interesting name. The problem is that >90% of people have no idea what Esperanto is, nor do they care.

A brand name is very important. How about something that describes what the coin does, such as:

  • PrivacyCash
  • PrivacyCoin
  • eCash
  • eCoin

Those names somewhat describe what the coin does and hint at its features. This is important if it expects adoption outside of the techie circles. I suggested the same points on the Fantomcoin thread. I have a handful of each coin.

I say this because I want to see cryptonote coins succeed. I think they are a valuable compliment to Bitcoin since they offer complete privacy whereas Bitcoin is pseudoanonymous. There are legitimate needs and uses for each. A more descriptive name would, imho, have a broader appeal to the general population.

Why dont we rename Monero to Darkcoin now that it is available just for the lols Tongue

99% of the shitcoins in this forum is doing exactly what you propose. I am glad that monero isnt. Monero as a name is perfect for many reasons and one of them is that it differentiates itself from the rest. Another is that by being in esperanto it is universal.

And i think that people on this forum know what monero does. If they dont it is our job to inform them with serious posts and infographics. In the end, i dont care for people who will choose a coin just because of the name.

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eidoo wallet
I know this topic has been covered before, but I'm asking the Monero community to please consider changing the name to something more descriptive of what the coin does.

Before people jump in with the "Esperanto" reply...I know about that, but only because I've been following this coin and other cryptonote coins. It's an interesting name. The problem is that >90% of people have no idea what Esperanto is, nor do they care.

A brand name is very important. How about something that describes what the coin does, such as:

  • PrivacyCash
  • PrivacyCoin
  • eCash
  • eCoin

Those names somewhat describe what the coin does and hint at its features. This is important if it expects adoption outside of the techie circles. I suggested the same points on the Fantomcoin thread. I have a handful of each coin.

I say this because I want to see cryptonote coins succeed. I think they are a valuable compliment to Bitcoin since they offer complete privacy whereas Bitcoin is pseudoanonymous. There are legitimate needs and uses for each. A more descriptive name would, imho, have a broader appeal to the general population.

One of the reasons I went with Monero over BBR, besides its large development team, is it's name. It's unique in a sea of (x)coins, (x)cash's, and limiting the name to something only around privacy is restrictive, it would alienate people who want transparency, and vice versa, neutrality is key. The Esperanto background is also a good conversation starter.
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I know this topic has been covered before, but I'm asking the Monero community to please consider changing the name to something more descriptive of what the coin does.

Before people jump in with the "Esperanto" reply...I know about that, but only because I've been following this coin and other cryptonote coins. It's an interesting name. The problem is that >90% of people have no idea what Esperanto is, nor do they care.

A brand name is very important. How about something that describes what the coin does, such as:

  • PrivacyCash
  • PrivacyCoin
  • eCash
  • eCoin

Those names somewhat describe what the coin does and hint at its features. This is important if it expects adoption outside of the techie circles. I suggested the same points on the Fantomcoin thread. I have a handful of each coin.

I say this because I want to see cryptonote coins succeed. I think they are a valuable compliment to Bitcoin since they offer complete privacy whereas Bitcoin is pseudoanonymous. There are legitimate needs and uses for each. A more descriptive name would, imho, have a broader appeal to the general population.

Digital Cash? oh..wait...
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I know this topic has been covered before, but I'm asking the Monero community to please consider changing the name to something more descriptive of what the coin does.

Before people jump in with the "Esperanto" reply...I know about that, but only because I've been following this coin and other cryptonote coins. It's an interesting name. The problem is that >90% of people have no idea what Esperanto is, nor do they care.

A brand name is very important. How about something that describes what the coin does, such as:

  • PrivacyCash
  • PrivacyCoin
  • eCash
  • eCoin

Those names somewhat describe what the coin does and hint at its features. This is important if it expects adoption outside of the techie circles. I suggested the same points on the Fantomcoin thread. I have a handful of each coin.

I say this because I want to see cryptonote coins succeed. I think they are a valuable compliment to Bitcoin since they offer complete privacy whereas Bitcoin is pseudoanonymous. There are legitimate needs and uses for each. A more descriptive name would, imho, have a broader appeal to the general population.
legendary
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Something I've recently noticed that has happened a whole lot with btc based currencies, for myself - I've had probably an easy 40-50+ monero wallets and the only one that ever got corrupted/unusable was with one of the GUI clients (this was literally a day or two after they had come out, and I can't even remember if it was corrupted or just not usable with simplewallet or i just forgot the pw). With bitcoin and bitcoin forks, I've probably had a few hundred different wallets, and I can say for sure I've had at least 5-6 corrupted wallets that resulted in a direct loss of funds (pretty sure I even have one or two stashed away somewhere - probably recoverable someday), from just actual random usage of the client - nothing out of the ordinary (obviously something was out of the ordinary, but something I'd like to expect to be able to do like close the program whenever I want to).

Anyways - has anyone else had the same experience (where corrupt wallet files happen much less often in CN than satoshi codebases)? Any ideas why if so?

The bitcoin wallets are a database (bdb). In theory databases are supposed to be immune to corruption but in practice there are programming bugs and OS and hardware issues (write barriers not enforced properly by OS and hardware) that can cause corruption.

CN wallets are two things:

1. Keys file, which is never changed after creation, so almost no opportunity for corruption.

2. dat file, which is a serialized data structure that gets replaced every time. On Windows this can be get corrupted because there is no good and simple atomic way to replace a file. On Linux you can simply write the new version and then rename, which usually works in practice even when write barriers are messed up (in theory it needn't entirely work for several complicated reasons but it often does anyway). Even if this file does get corrupted you can recreate it with no loss of funds or, I think, data.

 

legendary
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It's his opinion. That's what an open forum is about. Get over it.

You guys might wanna reign in kazuki49. Just sayin'

SDC is a useless piece of scamcoin.

Baseless FUD. I thought you XMR guys were supposed to be classier than that?
Turns out this XMR supporter is a common variety garden troll…

*drops mic*
legendary
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Note the unconventional cAPITALIZATION!
You guys might wanna reign in kazuki49. Just sayin'

SDC is a useless piece of scamcoin.

Baseless FUD. I thought you XMR guys were supposed to be classier than that?
Turns out this XMR supporter is a common variety garden troll…

*drops mic*

Nobody here controls what he does... I'd imagine few of us know who the hell he is.  Who told you to post here?  Should I have him reign YOU in?  See how that's kinda silly?
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You guys might wanna reign in kazuki49. Just sayin'

SDC is a useless piece of scamcoin.

Baseless FUD. I thought you XMR guys were supposed to be classier than that?
Turns out this XMR supporter is a common variety garden troll…

*drops mic*
G2M
sr. member
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Activity: 616
Something I've recently noticed that has happened a whole lot with btc based currencies, for myself - I've had probably an easy 40-50+ monero wallets and the only one that ever got corrupted/unusable was with one of the GUI clients (this was literally a day or two after they had come out, and I can't even remember if it was corrupted or just not usable with simplewallet or i just forgot the pw). With bitcoin and bitcoin forks, I've probably had a few hundred different wallets, and I can say for sure I've had at least 5-6 corrupted wallets that resulted in a direct loss of funds (pretty sure I even have one or two stashed away somewhere - probably recoverable someday), from just actual random usage of the client - nothing out of the ordinary (obviously something was out of the ordinary, but something I'd like to expect to be able to do like close the program whenever I want to).

Anyways - has anyone else had the same experience (where corrupt wallet files happen much less often in CN than satoshi codebases)? Any ideas why if so?
legendary
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For 5 XMR, I'll create a rendering of Monero + your name or any text you like, on a background of your choice. I can also do customs with Monero also Smiley My addy is in my sig.


NOTE: Since some of you are PMing me, these are NOT physical signs, they are just renderings with whatever you want on it Smiley

^^ these would look really good IRL.

Yes! It can possibly be done on a CNC machine (I have access to a couple).
legendary
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legendary
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GetMonero.org / MyMonero.com
So are the devs moving over to using your code? I mean it would be a shame for you to have rewritten all of the code to be cross platform and then are forced to implement all of their improvements in parallel for all eternity.

No - just like Bitcoin Core hasn't moved over to Armory or Electrum or whatever. MoneroX and lightWallet use normal Monero RPC calls, so they're still touching underlying sub-systems that we'll continue to support via a backwards compatibility layer, and I'm certain that they'll move towards supporting the proposed RPC API (Jojatekok has played a big part in the technical spec for that after all).
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