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Quote from: smooth on March 28, 2015, 02:25:13 PM

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Quote from: smooth on March 28, 2015, 01:22:09 PM

Quote from: P3RS3US on March 28, 2015, 12:26:27 PM

Hello XMR

* P3RS3US waves a white flag

I come in peace.

Please could you supply me with numbers for tx fees to ring sizes (mixin), for 0,1,2,3, 8 and 16
thank you.

or pls link me to a spreadsheet if u have one. ty

Whether or not he has an agenda it is a reasonable question, so I will answer it.

There is no set fee as a function of mix (ring) size, it depends on the size of the transaction which is a function of the header, the number of inputs, the mix factor and the number of outputs. The number of inputs is of equal importance as the mix factor.

A typical range is between 1 kbytes and 20 kbytes, with a fee of 0.01 XMR (currently around 80 USD cents) per kb. So that's anywhere from <0.01 USD to 0.16 USD. Something like 0.03-0.05 is fairly typical. The fee was last adjusted when the price of XMR was around 1/3 of where it was now, so if the price continues to do well the fee would probably get bumped down in some future version (as has happened with BTC several times)

ty smooth.

Is a user able to determine the number of inputs or is it random?

It depends what has been sent to you. If you were sent only one large payment, then your translation will have only one input. If you have received many small payments (most common example of this is a small miner) then your transaction will have many inputs.

For this reason I can't give a specific example. You can check http://moneroblocks.eu

Let's say it was one large payment for 1000 XMR (one input, 16 ringsize). Can we calculate that?

many thanks smooth. will check moneroblocks. Will wait for your reply and am unlikely to post again for the time being.

cheers.

smooth

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Quote from: GingerAle on March 28, 2015, 01:26:33 PM

it would be super cool to make that dynamic somehow. Perhaps if the network could measure its own activity .... e.g., if there are more transactions in a block, the fee is less because its assumed the value of each XMR is more...

This is basically how bitcoin works starting with 0.10. Your fee is set by your wallet based on how long you are willing to wait for confirmation and an estimate of what fee will accomplish that (higher=faster). Monero will likely be similar at some level of maturity.

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Quote from: P3RS3US on March 28, 2015, 02:18:03 PM

Quote from: smooth on March 28, 2015, 01:22:09 PM

Quote from: P3RS3US on March 28, 2015, 12:26:27 PM

Hello XMR

* P3RS3US waves a white flag

I come in peace.

Please could you supply me with numbers for tx fees to ring sizes (mixin), for 0,1,2,3, 8 and 16
thank you.

or pls link me to a spreadsheet if u have one. ty

Whether or not he has an agenda it is a reasonable question, so I will answer it.

There is no set fee as a function of mix (ring) size, it depends on the size of the transaction which is a function of the header, the number of inputs, the mix factor and the number of outputs. The number of inputs is of equal importance as the mix factor.

A typical range is between 1 kbytes and 20 kbytes, with a fee of 0.01 XMR (currently around 80 USD cents) per kb. So that's anywhere from <0.01 USD to 0.16 USD. Something like 0.03-0.05 is fairly typical. The fee was last adjusted when the price of XMR was around 1/3 of where it was now, so if the price continues to do well the fee would probably get bumped down in some future version (as has happened with BTC several times)

ty smooth.

Is a user able to determine the number of inputs or is it random?

It depends what has been sent to you. If you were sent only one large payment, then your translation will have only one input. If you have received many small payments (most common example of this is a small miner) then your transaction will have many inputs.

For this reason I can't give a specific example. You can check http://moneroblocks.eu

P3RS3US

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Quote from: smooth on March 28, 2015, 01:22:09 PM

Quote from: P3RS3US on March 28, 2015, 12:26:27 PM

Hello XMR

* P3RS3US waves a white flag

I come in peace.

Please could you supply me with numbers for tx fees to ring sizes (mixin), for 0,1,2,3, 8 and 16
thank you.

or pls link me to a spreadsheet if u have one. ty

Whether or not he has an agenda it is a reasonable question, so I will answer it.

There is no set fee as a function of mix (ring) size, it depends on the size of the transaction which is a function of the header, the number of inputs, the mix factor and the number of outputs. The number of inputs is of equal importance as the mix factor.

A typical range is between 1 kbytes and 20 kbytes, with a fee of 0.01 XMR (currently around 80 USD cents) per kb. So that's anywhere from <0.01 USD to 0.16 USD. Something like 0.03-0.05 is fairly typical. The fee was last adjusted when the price of XMR was around 1/3 of where it was now, so if the price continues to do well the fee would probably get bumped down in some future version (as has happened with BTC several times)

ty smooth.

Is a user able to determine the number of inputs or is it random?

and finally just to give me an approx example if u wouldn't mind:

I send 1000 XMR with ringsize (MIXIN) of 16. Roughly how much of a tx fee should I expect? ty

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Quote from: smooth on March 28, 2015, 01:32:05 PM

Quote from: GingerAle on March 28, 2015, 01:27:53 PM

Quote from: GoldenEye on March 28, 2015, 01:20:31 PM

Where can I find documentation for the JSON RPC API (Daemon and wallet)?

https://github.com/monero-project/bitmonero/blob/master/src/rpc/core_rpc_server.h#L92 <- daemon RPC API

https://github.com/monero-project/bitmonero/blob/master/src/wallet/wallet_rpc_server.h#L64 <- wallet RPC API

Correct answers but the field definitions are also helpful:

https://github.com/monero-project/bitmonero/blob/master/src/wallet/wallet_rpc_server_commands_defs.h#L43

https://github.com/monero-project/bitmonero/blob/master/src/rpc/core_rpc_server_commands_defs.h#L44

All of these are declarations that are reasonably comprehensible even if you aren't a C++ programmer.

Thanks, that's fine

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Doomed to see the future and unable to prevent it

Quote from: GingerAle on March 28, 2015, 01:26:33 PM

it would be super cool to make that dynamic somehow. Perhaps if the network could measure its own activity .... e.g., if there are more transactions in a block, the fee is less because its assumed the value of each XMR is more...

hrm, or just a flat 1% per KB. Thus, if the value goes up, people will have transactions in the 0.003 XMR range, thus the fee would be 0.01 * 0.003. If the value goes down, people have transactions in the 3 XMR range, thus the fee would be 0.01 * 3 .......

I think this would be doable once decentralized exchanges are integrated. You would need a dependable constant for this.

Quote from: smooth on March 28, 2015, 01:26:52 PM

Please take my picture off the internet. Not saying which one is me though, at least I still have mix 3 privacy.

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Quote from: GingerAle on March 28, 2015, 01:27:53 PM

Quote from: GoldenEye on March 28, 2015, 01:20:31 PM

Where can I find documentation for the JSON RPC API (Daemon and wallet)?

https://github.com/monero-project/bitmonero/blob/master/src/rpc/core_rpc_server.h#L92 <- daemon RPC API

https://github.com/monero-project/bitmonero/blob/master/src/wallet/wallet_rpc_server.h#L64 <- wallet RPC API

Correct answers but the field definitions are also helpful:

https://github.com/monero-project/bitmonero/blob/master/src/wallet/wallet_rpc_server_commands_defs.h#L43

https://github.com/monero-project/bitmonero/blob/master/src/rpc/core_rpc_server_commands_defs.h#L44

All of these are declarations that are reasonably comprehensible even if you aren't a C++ programmer.

GingerAle

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Quote from: GoldenEye on March 28, 2015, 01:20:31 PM

Where can I find documentation for the JSON RPC API (Daemon and wallet)?

https://github.com/monero-project/bitmonero/blob/master/src/rpc/core_rpc_server.h#L92 <- daemon RPC API

https://github.com/monero-project/bitmonero/blob/master/src/wallet/wallet_rpc_server.h#L64 <- wallet RPC API

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Quote from: cAPSLOCK on March 28, 2015, 08:52:14 AM

Quote from: fluffypony on March 28, 2015, 06:45:45 AM

Quote from: GingerAle on March 28, 2015, 06:41:08 AM

Don't you know how open source works fluffypony? There's a core team of developers that sit around coding all day waiting for people to tell them what to do. Jeesh

/sarcasm

Well actually, we're on a yacht. But the rest is 100% accurate.

Word...

Please take my picture off the internet. Not saying which one is me though, at least I still have mix 3 privacy.

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Quote from: smooth on March 28, 2015, 01:22:09 PM

Quote from: P3RS3US on March 28, 2015, 12:26:27 PM

Hello XMR

* P3RS3US waves a white flag

I come in peace.

Please could you supply me with numbers for tx fees to ring sizes (mixin), for 0,1,2,3, 8 and 16
thank you.

or pls link me to a spreadsheet if u have one. ty

Whether or not he has an agenda it is a reasonable question, so I will answer it.

There is no set fee as a function of mix (ring) size, it depends on the size of the transaction which is a function of the header, the number of inputs, the mix factor and the number of outputs. The number of inputs is of equal importance as the mix factor.

A typical range is between 1 kbytes and 20 kbytes, with a fee of 0.01 XMR (currently around 80 USD cents) per kb. So that's anywhere from <0.01 USD to 0.16 USD. Something like 0.03-0.05 is fairly typical. The fee was last adjusted when the price of XMR was around 1/3 of where it was now, so if the price continues to do well the fee would probably get bumped down in some future version (as has happened with BTC several times)

it would be super cool to make that dynamic somehow. Perhaps if the network could measure its own activity .... e.g., if there are more transactions in a block, the fee is less because its assumed the value of each XMR is more...

hrm, or just a flat 1% per KB. Thus, if the value goes up, people will have transactions in the 0.003 XMR range, thus the fee would be 0.01 * 0.003. If the value goes down, people have transactions in the 3 XMR range, thus the fee would be 0.01 * 3 .......

smooth

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Quote from: P3RS3US on March 28, 2015, 12:26:27 PM

Hello XMR

* P3RS3US waves a white flag

I come in peace.

Please could you supply me with numbers for tx fees to ring sizes (mixin), for 0,1,2,3, 8 and 16
thank you.

or pls link me to a spreadsheet if u have one. ty

Whether or not he has an agenda it is a reasonable question, so I will answer it.

There is no set fee as a function of mix (ring) size, it depends on the size of the transaction which is a function of the header, the number of inputs, the mix factor and the number of outputs. The number of inputs is of equal importance as the mix factor.

A typical range is between 1 kbytes and 20 kbytes, with a fee of 0.01 XMR (currently around 80 USD cents) per kb. So that's anywhere from <0.01 USD to 0.16 USD. Something like 0.03-0.05 is fairly typical. The fee was last adjusted when the price of XMR was around 1/3 of where it was now, so if the price continues to do well the fee would probably get bumped down in some future version (as has happened with BTC several times)

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Where can I find documentation for the JSON RPC API (Daemon and wallet)?

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Fees are calculated by kilobyte.

There's no per-ring-fee.... that would be insanely stupid to do.

We are as well as every other sane cryptocurrency charging per space in the blockchain, thats all that is intersting for us.

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Quote from: Anon136 on March 28, 2015, 12:32:51 PM

Quote from: P3RS3US on March 28, 2015, 12:26:27 PM

Hello XMR

* P3RS3US waves a white flag

I come in peace.

Please could you supply me with numbers for tx fees to ring sizes (mixin), for 0,1,2,3, 8 and 16
thank you.

or pls link me to a spreadsheet if u have one. ty

its a trap. hes laying spider webs.

Excuse me? No traps. I just want a few figures for tx fees in Monero, surely thats not asking too much? ty
Your reaction flummoxes me a bit.

BTW Weren't u in the SDC thread a couple days ago? (NVM)

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Quote from: P3RS3US on March 28, 2015, 12:26:27 PM

Hello XMR

* P3RS3US waves a white flag

I come in peace.

Please could you supply me with numbers for tx fees to ring sizes (mixin), for 0,1,2,3, 8 and 16
thank you.

or pls link me to a spreadsheet if u have one. ty

its a trap. hes laying spider webs.

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Monero looking puzzle....! i cant understand how u to get it...

P3RS3US

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Hello XMR

* P3RS3US waves a white flag

I come in peace.

Please could you supply me with numbers for tx fees to ring sizes (mixin), for 0,1,2,3, 8 and 16
thank you.

or pls link me to a spreadsheet if u have one. ty

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Quote from: GingerAle on March 28, 2015, 12:22:42 PM

Quote from: Anon136 on March 28, 2015, 12:19:04 PM

does anyone want the domain moneroforum.org? if not im going to let it expire.

or just keep it and forward it to forum.getmonero.org

......

Sure and thats what it has been for a long time now. But i just doubt its getting enough hits from people who are looking for forum.getmonero.org in order to justify paying to renew it. If someone else feels differently they can have it

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Quote from: Anon136 on March 28, 2015, 12:19:04 PM

does anyone want the domain moneroforum.org? if not im going to let it expire.

or just keep it and forward it to forum.getmonero.org

......

Anon136

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does anyone want the domain moneroforum.org? if not im going to let it expire.

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