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Topic: [XMR] Monero - A secure, private, untraceable cryptocurrency - page 1658. (Read 4670972 times)

legendary
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Monero Evangelist
Why there’s so much PR about Monero?
If a thing is really worthy, it does not need so much noise around it.
Looks kinda suspicious - like there are things behind all this that Monero devs would like to hide.
How many accounts did you bought for your FUD campaign?
Do you really think this works? Why are you fighting against XMR? What is your problem?
newbie
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Why there’s so much PR about Monero?
If a thing is really worthy, it does not need so much noise around it.
Looks kinda suspicious - like there are things behind all this that Monero devs would like to hide.
full member
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The socialism doesn't need to be omniscient. Fact is we can study history and see what happens every time. The masses ride the socialism all the way down until it comes after them too. Then war and chaos. Then reset.

It is a bit more complex. You are speaking of effects the socialism does in a corrupted society. I don't live long enough to know better but, concluding from most extreme cases of today, socialism is exploated to buy in more than critical mass of ppl - and then majority defend status quo at which all society is locked in. This buying in works at exponential expansion periods, but only that lock disable society to reorganize quickly with corrections, which then may lead to less predictable consequences to say the least Smiley

EDIT: I believe certain level of socialism is excellent, see some northern EU nations for example, but it has to be transparent to mitigate corruption where it is not working that well. Wink
legendary
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Note the unconventional cAPITALIZATION!
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http://xmr.prohash.net

Why don't you just put it in your signature and participate in the discussion ?
Spamming is not effective for pool promotion.


This is good advice trampk.  For example superrisistant is not on ignore.  But you are.
hero member
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Hi guys new to the monero train. commencing mass thread catchup. got myself loaded with a few hundred for the ride.  Wink
donator
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GetMonero.org / MyMonero.com
how about the coin feature?

Which feature are you asking about?
sr. member
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how about the coin feature?
member
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Couldn't resist watching such a low price for the last few days and bought some more Monero.
hero member
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....

Just ignore them, they are all Bytecoin and Cryptonote fake accounts.
They are pissed that they cant control Monero and well, no idea what their plan is but i guess in Russia where they are from it makes sense after enough vodka Wink

legendary
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Also, the amount of obvious new troll/FUD accounts with few posts in this thread is too damn high.

It is a good signal. If this coin is not too good, it will not have so many enemies
donator
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GetMonero.org / MyMonero.com
I heard there are very few people who really do mine Monero and the developers use botnet to maximize the demand for this coin. Is it true?

If I (or any one of us) had control of a botnet we would not be involved with Monero. Trust me. We would have much more profitable fish to fry (ransomware, for instance).

Yep, the Monero team is just a bunch of hackers. In fact, the way they do things, the prospects are dark for this coin.

Your first sentence is 100% right. Per SearchSecurity:

'Eric Raymond, compiler of The New Hacker's Dictionary, defines a hacker as a clever programmer. A "good hack" is a clever solution to a programming problem and "hacking" is the act of doing it. Raymond lists five possible characteristics that qualify one as a hacker, which we paraphrase here:

A person who enjoys learning details of a programming language or system
A person who enjoys actually doing the programming rather than just theorizing about it
A person capable of appreciating someone else's hacking
A person who picks up programming quickly
A person who is an expert at a particular programming language or system, as in "UNIX hacker"'

Your second sentence needs a specific example. What is "the way they do things" that leads to these dark prospects? Be specific, vague hand-waving and ad hominem attacks don't make your point.

I'm disappointed in Monero’s  debs. They could at least make a nice website, since they compete for the title of best developers.

We don't have any Debian packages out yet, so I'm not sure how you could be disappointed in our debs.

To your second point: why would a competent core team, skilled and knowledgeable in C / C++, low-level networking, mathematics, and cryptography ever be capable of being excellent web developers? You seem to conflate the two.

Them, best developers? For God’s sake! A better title would be the best scammers. IMO, that’s all they deserve.

Now now, my little troll, let us not use such turns of phrase for fear this god you mention smite you for your blasphemous words.

I think it would be tough to argue that we're anywhere close to the level of Mark Karpeles or pirateat40 or, say, the developers of a cryptocurrency with an 82% premine.
sr. member
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Knowledge is Power
With rare exception, every state on the planet grows larger, more tyranical, more confiscatory, and more dangerous with each passing year.
Except known history does not bear this out. Pretty much all ancient societies were socialist as Igor Shafaravich's research  bears out in his book The Socialist Phenomenon..
More recently we have seen various experiments against this trend

Yea you know i may be unfairly looking at the world through the lens of my own perspective. My government (that is to say the government that rules over me not the government that i own Tongue) started out small and has grown out of control over the last 200 years. However most other governments were much more tyrannical 200 years ago than they are today. Grin
haha Smiley YOu know in my work I am constantly looking and studying how the world could go wrong, mainly economically. But when i look at the big picture things are getting better.

Oh yea im super optimistic. Even though my government grows larger and larger every year, innovation still outpaces the damage they do. The human experience gets happier, healthier, wealthier, and richer every year, in spite of the government. Its like a leach that grows larger every year in absolute terms, but smaller every year relative to the host. So excited about the future Grin.

Excellent analogy. The world's governments are increasingly becoming inefficient and authoritarian, technology is the only way we will transcend  that without having to revolt.

Also, the amount of obvious new troll/FUD accounts with few posts in this thread is too damn high.
donator
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Can anybody describe to me perspectives of the Monero?

Sure.

Monero has no future, because there’s hardly a single competent developer in their devs team

Which one of them is not competent? I've been in contact with two, and I think they are doing fine. (As usual, you are invited to join, it is open source.)

and the market can't withstand such amount of coins

The slow coin generation schedule was my second qualifier for buying XMR. (The first is that the coin is doing something novel and useful, which disqualifies 99% of coins.) Slow schedule means high apparent inflation for long time to come, but that way the coins are distributed to people who have the dough to pay for them, instead of for free to the pump&dump"dev"/"early adopter"(often)scammers, which typically is the case.

and it will only get worse in a few months’ time.

How?
legendary
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Please donate to XMR team https://pay.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/2afh3j/dev_team_donation_drive/ 7 developers are working too hard to keep the ball rolling. XMR will be the best moment in cryptocurrency age after bitcoin 
legendary
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With rare exception, every state on the planet grows larger, more tyranical, more confiscatory, and more dangerous with each passing year.
Except known history does not bear this out. Pretty much all ancient societies were socialist as Igor Shafaravich's research  bears out in his book The Socialist Phenomenon..
More recently we have seen various experiments against this trend

Yea you know i may be unfairly looking at the world through the lens of my own perspective. My government (that is to say the government that rules over me not the government that i own Tongue) started out small and has grown out of control over the last 200 years. However most other governments were much more tyrannical 200 years ago than they are today. Grin
haha Smiley YOu know in my work I am constantly looking and studying how the world could go wrong, mainly economically. But when i look at the big picture things are getting better.

Oh yea im super optimistic. Even though my government grows larger and larger every year, innovation still outpaces the damage they do. The human experience gets happier, healthier, wealthier, and richer every year, in spite of the government. Its like a leach that grows larger every year in absolute terms, but smaller every year relative to the host. So excited about the future Grin.
legendary
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Merit: 1000
I heard there are very few people who really do mine Monero and the developers use botnet to maximize the demand for this coin. Is it true?
I heard that President Obama is a 12 foot tall shape shifting reptilian...is that true?
legendary
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getmonero.org

Can anybody describe to me perspectives of the Monero?


Monero has no future, because there’s hardly a single competent developer in their devs team and the market can't withstand such amount of coins, and it will only get worse in a few months’ time.

At least they seem 10 times more competent than other CN coins devs... I will stick with that and lets see what happens in a few months.
legendary
Activity: 1106
Merit: 1000
I'm disappointed in Monero’s  debs. They could at least make a nice website, since they compete for the title of best developers.

Best what? Best web developer?  Huh

They are position themselves as excellent and clever developers of one of the best alternative cryptocurrencies

People knows that XMR team are very competent devs
jr. member
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Can anybody describe to me perspectives of the Monero?


Monero has no future, because there’s hardly a single competent developer in their devs team and the market can't withstand such amount of coins, and it will only get worse in a few months’ time.
legendary
Activity: 1190
Merit: 1000
With rare exception, every state on the planet grows larger, more tyranical, more confiscatory, and more dangerous with each passing year.
Except known history does not bear this out. Pretty much all ancient societies were socialist as Igor Shafaravich's research  bears out in his book The Socialist Phenomenon..
More recently we have seen various experiments against this trend

Yea you know i may be unfairly looking at the world through the lens of my own perspective. My government (that is to say the government that rules over me not the government that i own Tongue) started out small and has grown out of control over the last 200 years. However most other governments were much more tyrannical 200 years ago than they are today. Grin
haha Smiley YOu know in my work I am constantly looking and studying how the world could go wrong, mainly economically. But when i look at the big picture things are getting better.
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