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I think he means VRT. Vertcoin.

Sorry your right - i did mean Vertcoin. i have had a reply on Rpietelia's thread informing me that Vertcoin just uses a mixer, and is not anonymous, so i will ignore VRT from now on. It was just some clever PR on their part that made it sound like it was.

no, vertcoin does not use a mixer. it uses what's called a stealth address for privacy, not for anonymity. the distinction is very important to vertcoin folks.

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I have not seen Monero developers since Sunday on this thread. May anybody know what are they doing? Still at Bitcoin conference in Estonia?
 

This is one concern I have for this platform.  The development community seems a bit on the slow side.  I don't say much as I am not a dev, but I hope code is being worked on faster than it seems.  We don't need flashy websites, or even a gui yet...  but I hope real progress is being made on core server improvements, the database etc...


DB work is currently in progress.  Personally, I would consider it the first priority, after critical bug fixes and security vulnerabilities as the are identified in real-time, so I am pleased with the prioritization which is being done by the core team.  Among other work items I have tracked, the rpc changes in support of GUI wallets appears to be to have peaked.  This will gratify those who prioritize GUI wallets.   I suppose a 64-bit GUI wallet could be put out pretty quickly now, but it seems more logical to me to get the db conversion done, so that all platforms can be equally supported, and the client conversion from boost serializations to DB is more managable, before a GUI is blessed as a reference implementation.

Just peanut gallery comments.


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Hey aminorex,

I follow your posts as they are a very high quality. We were just talking about them at Malla and everyone feels this way.

IIRC you were saying that you wouldn't trust something like zerocoin as if the initial accumulator values are not destroyed it breaks the anonymity set. It turns out that with zerocash, the initial values, if not destroyed, would only allow someone to create more of the coin rather than break the anonymity of the users.

Yes, I understand that now.  Thank you for correcting the record.
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I have not seen Monero developers since Sunday on this thread. May anybody know what are they doing? Still at Bitcoin conference in Estonia?
 

This is one concern I have for this platform.  The development community seems a bit on the slow side.  I don't say much as I am not a dev, but I hope code is being worked on faster than it seems.  We don't need flashy websites, or even a gui yet...  but I hope real progress is being made on core server improvements, the database etc...

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Hey aminorex,

I follow your posts as they are a very high quality. We were just talking about them at Malla and everyone feels this way.

IIRC you were saying that you wouldn't trust something like zerocoin as if the initial accumulator values are not destroyed it breaks the anonymity set. It turns out that with zerocash, the initial values, if not destroyed, would only allow someone to create more of the coin rather than break the anonymity of the users.

Making more of the coin is just as bad as breaking the anonymity of the users, if not worse...

If someone could make large amounts of coins at will, they could/would easily dump them on the market for quick profit, resulting in the price of such coin going down dramatically, and that person could make coins whenever they want, so there's no stopping them.....

That's why I believe zerocash is Not a viable anonymity option.
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I think he means VRT. Vertcoin.

Sorry your right - i did mean Vertcoin. i have had a reply on Rpietelia's thread informing me that Vertcoin just uses a mixer, and is not anonymous, so i will ignore VRT from now on. It was just some clever PR on their part that made it sound like it was.

Many people are not familiar with Stealth Address, maybe you're one of them  Wink

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At the moment, we’re working on stealth addresses in Vertcoin. Those of you have been around a while may remember, in the early days of VTC, there was some discussion over zerocoin implementation, and we made clear that anonymous/untraceable payments were not the direction we wanted to go with VTC – we are of the opinion that mainstream adoption won’t come from these features, and that they will actually damage the currencies that go down that route. The fact is, people don’t care about anonymity – if they did, they wouldn’t use social media etc.

However, we do believe in transactional privacy akin to what you expect from your legacy payment/banking systems, such that it’s not trivially easy for anyone to see your entire financial history.

Stealth addresses strike a good balance – all the transactions are still on the blockchain to be seen, but the link between an address and an individual is obfuscated. One thing that not many people seem to consider when talking about anonymity systems in cryptocurrencies is that true anonymous payments make all the blockchain tools you’re used to useless.

Stealth addresses increase privacy for a recipient by allowing you to publish a stealth address, which is like a seed which the sender then uses to generate a unique one-use Vertcoin address for the transaction. All the transactions remain public on the blockchain, but knowing the entire transactional history of your stealth address is now no-longer possible except for you, the holder of the secret key.

My resources about stealth addresses so far:
    http://sx.dyne.org/stealth.html
    https://wiki.unsystem.net/en/index.php/DarkWallet/Stealth
    https://wiki.unsystem.net/en/images/e/e5/RHhNKL6.jpg
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Hey aminorex,

I follow your posts as they are a very high quality. We were just talking about them at Malla and everyone feels this way.

IIRC you were saying that you wouldn't trust something like zerocoin as if the initial accumulator values are not destroyed it breaks the anonymity set. It turns out that with zerocash, the initial values, if not destroyed, would only allow someone to create more of the coin rather than break the anonymity of the users.
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I tried to transfer some money from one wallet to another but the coins did never arrive.

Monerochain.info does not know the transaction hash.

How can i find out what really happened?
If they never showed up on the public blockchain, your local copy thinks they've been sent so you need to clear that, resync with the public blockchain, and also rebuild your local wallet. If you haven't done "save" or "exit" in bitmonerod, just close the window without saving -- then you don't keep the info on the "lost" coins. For simplewallet, it doesn't matter what you do as you'll be deleting and resyncing regardless.

So close both siplewallet and bitmonerod, then delete all of the wallet files except for the ".keys" file (usually wallet.bin.keys), and if you need to, delete all of your blockchain files as well (in AppData/Roaming/bitmonero) and download the last update to provide faster syncing.

Now restart the daemon and wallet, and when both are all caught up to the current block your "lost" coins should be back.
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that would be all technical analysis, especially for internet coins, since it's just hocus pocus

Risto is better at interpreting charts and markets than I am, at least on strategically useful scales, and I am no slouch.  He benefits reputationally from only making predictions public when he has high confidence.  But what Risto does is far beyond TA per se, encompassing diverse fundamental, pattern, and statistical analyses. 
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Thanks, I've regenerated the wallet but it say's balance 0.0  I have read this though -

4. We caught a bug where restoring a deterministic wallet would not find old transactions. This was due to the assumption that is made by simplewallet that a newly "created" wallet will never have old transactions in it. This has been patched, and will be merged up to master and included in updated binaries from the beginning of next week.

Is this why my balance shows 0 and is there a quick fix?

There is, but you need to be able to compile the wallet.


There's a branch that fixes restore here:
https://github.com/tewinget/bitmonero/tree/restore-fix

So you can restore wallets from mnemonic phrases properly if you compile that on whatever system.

I did this and verified it DOES fix the problem.  So you can rest assured your coins are still there if the seed produced the right address (which it does).  If you are unable to compile that new wallet you can just wait for them to merge it into the next binary officially.
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I tried to transfer some money from one wallet to another but the coins did never arrive.

Monerochain.info does not know the transaction hash.

How can i find out what really happened?


well as long as you control the wallet that you sent from and the wallet that you sent too than you still have your coins. somewhere. if its not on the blockchain than almost certainly its still on the wallet that you sent from. if worst comes to worst it will almost certainly be fixed by a fresh install.
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What's the process for regenerating a wallet from seed.  I just reinstalled it all and it only offered me options to create a new wallet.
simplewallet --help

Thanks, I've regenerated the wallet but it say's balance 0.0  I have read this though -

4. We caught a bug where restoring a deterministic wallet would not find old transactions. This was due to the assumption that is made by simplewallet that a newly "created" wallet will never have old transactions in it. This has been patched, and will be merged up to master and included in updated binaries from the beginning of next week.

Is this why my balance shows 0 and is there a quick fix?

Yes. There is exactly what you speak about. This written in Monero missive July 27. No quick fix available yet. Github branch is pending to merge. I have not seen Monero developers since Sunday on this thread. May anybody know what are they doing? Still at Bitcoin conference in Estonia?
 
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I tried to transfer some money from one wallet to another but the coins did never arrive.

Monerochain.info does not know the transaction hash.

How can i find out what really happened?
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Is there any development progress?
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I think he means VRT. Vertcoin.

Sorry your right - i did mean Vertcoin. i have had a reply on Rpietelia's thread informing me that Vertcoin just uses a mixer, and is not anonymous, so i will ignore VRT from now on. It was just some clever PR on their part that made it sound like it was.

Vertcoin is not trying to be anonymous but provide privacy tools: there are benefits for both anonymous and non-anonymous coins, so space for both.  Plenty of people support both VTC and XMR.
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