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Monero (XMR) - secure, private, untraceable
Some of the following could be considered off topic, but admins - please don't delete it Smiley
I want to refer to the second week of Monero - this was the time I first read about it. I then tried to compile an optimized version of the miner and to share it with the community and I devoted a lot of time to do it. Back then my core i7 laptop hash rate was 6 H/s and now it's 107 H/s (just imagine what Bytecoin devs are trying to achieve with their purposely obfuscated and slow mining code despite of their 80% premine before that). NoodleDoodle managed to do the first 2x and then x4 optimizations up to 22+ H/s on my core i7 (that's what I was trying to do and I was just going to without having a lot of experience with different C compilers). This was the time when Monero become the main CryptoNote coin - most probably forever (or probably not). Back then I was happy to solo mine my first 80+ XMR with 6 H/s, then 10 H/s and then 20+ H/s - my first 2 weeks of Monero mining (if you want to be sure it's not premined read this: http://www.devtome.com/doku.php?id=a_massive_investigation_of_instamines_and_fastmines_for_the_top_alt_coins#monero and also you could read there about some shitcoins, which a lot of people are trying to defend in this thread). I bought some more (I made it to 450+) mainly from the OTC and mainly on the top price (0.00175 back then). Few days after I panicked and I dumped them all (I mean all) on the lowest price of 0.0008 (lol) - this was the day before it was listed on poloniex (and the day before I first heard of poloniex). Monero is also my first altcoin (lol). Back then I was never going to buy more of it on higher price if I didn't get the support of the community (Smooth pity me and sent me a lot (to my standard) and 2 more people sent me about 2 XMR). After that I bought again and I was riding the waves - I made some more and sometimes I dumped low (buy high, sell low they say - yeah:) - yesterday again I dumped about half of mine XMR for good (self irony).
And now to the essence (off topic) I started this post - it's not about XMR. Back then (in the third week of Monero) I argued about the difference 'if(expression)' could make compared to 'if(!expression)' in C compiled with mingw. I just found the C code I wrote many years ago and I was talking about. This is just the 30% final adjustment I achieved for the client after I already made it 90x faster for him and he cheated and he never paid me my 100$ we agreed on (should we have him in Monero?). Here is the code*:
*Those 'sums' are made on hundreds of thousands binary files provided by this client and I don't think it could be used in any meaningful way except on his data.
Code:
#include 
#include

SEXP Sum(SEXP xNumVect, SEXP nCount, SEXP Nint)
{
int i, j, n, n1, N, N2;
double sum;
double *pNUM, *pResult;
SEXP result;
PROTECT(xNumVect = AS_NUMERIC(xNumVect));
N = INTEGER_VALUE(Nint);
n = INTEGER_VALUE(nCount);
PROTECT(result = NEW_NUMERIC(n));
pResult = NUMERIC_POINTER(result);
pNUM = NUMERIC_POINTER(xNumVect);
N2 = N - 2;
n1 = n - 1;
for(i = n1; i > N2; i--)
{
sum = 0;
for(j = 0; j < N; j++)
sum += pNUM[i - j];
pResult[i] = sum;
}
for(i = N2; i > -1; i--)
pResult[i] = R_NaN;
UNPROTECT(2);
return result;
}

SEXP Max(SEXP xNumVect, SEXP nCount, SEXP Nint)
{
int i, j, n, n1, N, N2;
double max;
double *pNUM, *pResult;
SEXP result;
PROTECT(xNumVect = AS_NUMERIC(xNumVect));
N = INTEGER_VALUE(Nint);
n = INTEGER_VALUE(nCount);
PROTECT(result = NEW_NUMERIC(n));
pResult = NUMERIC_POINTER(result);
pNUM = NUMERIC_POINTER(xNumVect);
N2 = N - 2;
n1 = n - 1;
for(i = n1; i > N2; i--)
{
max = R_NegInf;
for(j = 0; j < N; j++)
if(pNUM[i - j] == R_NaN)
if(pNUM[i - j] > max)
max = pNUM[i - j];
if(max == R_NegInf)
pResult[i] = R_NaN;
else
pResult[i] = max;
}
for(i = N2; i > -1; i--)
pResult[i] = R_NaN;
UNPROTECT(2);
return result;
}

SEXP Min(SEXP xNumVect, SEXP nCount, SEXP Nint)
{
int i, j, n, n1, N, N2;
double min;
double *pNUM, *pResult;
SEXP result;
PROTECT(xNumVect = AS_NUMERIC(xNumVect));
N = INTEGER_VALUE(Nint);
n = INTEGER_VALUE(nCount);
PROTECT(result = NEW_NUMERIC(n));
pResult = NUMERIC_POINTER(result);
pNUM = NUMERIC_POINTER(xNumVect);
N2 = N - 2;
n1 = n - 1;
for(i = n1; i > N2; i--)
{
min = R_PosInf;
for(j = 0; j < N; j++)
if(pNUM[i - j] == R_NaN)
if(pNUM[i - j] < min)
min = pNUM[i - j];
if(min == R_NegInf)
pResult[i] = R_NaN;
else
pResult[i] = min;
}
for(i = N2; i > -1; i--)
pResult[i] = R_NaN;
UNPROTECT(2);
return result;
}
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Looks like someone selling thier monero - is that to do with the DDOS ?

no doubt. bittrex is crashing hard a bit as well .... i'm holding tho, i don't care if i lose a few $ overnight, it will bouce back! Grin

Really ? A coin would go down in price because of a DDOS ? I don't understand since it is only the pools that are affected

That's what not they want, the ddos'ers want to deny access to pools to give them access to mining themselves more coins.

Stupid cunts just driving more to solo which they cant control Grin
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Looks like someone selling thier monero - is that to do with the DDOS ?

no doubt. bittrex is crashing hard a bit as well .... i'm holding tho, i don't care if i lose a few $ overnight, it will bouce back! Grin

Really ? A coin would go down in price because of a DDOS ? I don't understand since it is only the pools that are affected

dunno why really, bittrex seems to have a lot of panic sellers or something. maybe it's auto-sells.. in any case, i'm not losing yet, i think it's just people being dumb/greedy.. /shocker

edit - the timing was pretty close tho, so who knows.
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Looks like someone selling thier monero - is that to do with the DDOS ?

no doubt. bittrex is crashing hard a bit as well .... i'm holding tho, i don't care if i lose a few $ overnight, it will bouce back! Grin

Really ? A coin would go down in price because of a DDOS ? I don't understand since it is only the pools that are affected
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The network hash rate you see on the pool stats etc is calculated from the block difficulty, which is adjusted every block to try and keep the generation time at 60secs. It will only change by a certain max amount each block though, so 3-4MH/sec being taken off the network will not be apparent for some time. To benefit from a DDoS attack a rival miner would have to keep up the DDoS for a while, and it tends to cancel itself out as miners move (temporarily) to other pools, so its debatable what they achieve apart from costing pool operators money trying to mitigate the attacks.

http://cryptonotepool.org.uk welcomes miners who want to spread their hash around, plenty of capacity at the moment although we may well cap it at 5% of the network (if it ever gets that popular!) to avoid being a DDoS target. Pool server is nice and stable, made some improvements to the code so the daemons dont have to restarted all the time, so miners get the most from their hashpower Smiley
legendary
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Looks like someone selling thier monero - is that to do with the DDOS ?

no doubt. bittrex is crashing hard a bit as well .... i'm holding tho, i don't care if i lose a few $ overnight, it will bouce back! Grin
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Looks like someone selling thier monero - is that to do with the DDOS ?
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it offers liquidity, security, privacy, fungibility, fairness, recognition and deflation in a single package.

new breed of shitcoins.

Certainly not a shitcoin. Much more to offer Wink

I was referring to CloakCoin, CryptCoin, KoreCoin, etc.  It's downright formulaic. X11/X13 PoW over a few days + PoS + "whitepaper" claiming anonymity. Thanks to the greater fool theory, this actually works (for a limited time). Roll Eyes
legendary
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DRK with all its shady supply tricks is almost benign compared to this new breed of shitcoins.

Can you elaborate on why you believe that XMR is a new breed of shitcoin? I'm actually interested in your opinion. thanks.

He's on the Monero core team, that's very much NOT what he was saying;)

The "new breed of shitcoin" he's referring to is in his previous sentence: "Meanwhile, most of the 'competition' consists of 3 to 7 day PoW followed by PoS."

Ah, my bad, so sorry!! I completely missed that part, and I do agree, those coins are shit!.. Thanks for correcting me! Smiley

edit - they should rename PoS as EoL, for End Of Life... Cheesy
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DRK with all its shady supply tricks is almost benign compared to this new breed of shitcoins.

Can you elaborate on why you believe that XMR is a new breed of shitcoin? I'm actually interested in your opinion. thanks.

He's on the Monero core team, that's very much NOT what he was saying;)

The "new breed of shitcoin" he's referring to is in his previous sentence: "Meanwhile, most of the 'competition' consists of 3 to 7 day PoW followed by PoS."
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is Monero network under maintenance?
Because:
1. Rewards are delayed
2. My hashrates half-ed
3. To many errors everywhere

Massive DDOS on all big pools.

Everything is down.


"Everything" is not down.

http://monerochain.info - blocks are still averaging around a minute between blocks.

Pools being DDoS'd does not affect the network.
legendary
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DRK with all its shady supply tricks is almost benign compared to this new breed of shitcoins.

Can you elaborate on why you believe that XMR is a new breed of shitcoin? I'm actually interested in your opinion. thanks.
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Jun-18 07:58:32.970145 bitmonero v0.8.8.1(0.1-g328a52a)
2014-Jun-18 07:58:32.975145 Module folder: C:\monero.win.x64.latest2\bitmonerod.exe
2014-Jun-18 07:58:32.980145 Initializing p2p server...
2014-Jun-18 07:58:32.985145 ERROR c:\temp\monero\git-experimental\bitmonero-0.8.8update-x64\src\p2p\net_node.inl:82 Exception at [node_server::init_config], what=invalid signature
2014-Jun-18 07:58:32.995145 ERROR c:\temp\monero\git-experimental\bitmonero-0.8.8update-x64\src\p2p\net_node.inl:204 Failed to init config.
2014-Jun-18 07:58:33.005145 ERROR ..\..\src\daemon\daemon.cpp:148 Failed to initialize p2p server.
2014-Jun-18 07:58:33.010145 Mining has been stopped, 0 finished

can someone help with this?
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Pools have ruined most coins like it or not especially multi-pools. Go back a few years that'll do me Grin
How so ? Being a newcomer, I thought pools were about decreasing the variance...

He talks about multi-pools. It doesn't exist on Monero (yet).
A multi-pool mine altcoins and dump them automatically to only pay Bitcoins.


Did I say there was a monero multi-pool?

No, I said multi-pools were killing coins....

Sorry to disagree with you but I stand by what I said....
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it offers liquidity, security, privacy, fungibility, fairness, recognition and deflation in a single package.

new breed of shitcoins.

Certainly not a shitcoin. Much more to offer Wink
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it offers liquidity, security, privacy, fungibility, fairness, recognition and deflation in a single package.

Disinflation, not deflation. XMR's emission curve benefits come in strongly right around the 2-year mark. Meanwhile, most of the 'competition' consists of 3 to 7 day PoW followed by PoS. DRK with all its shady supply tricks is almost benign compared to this new breed of shitcoins.
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Pools have ruined most coins like it or not especially multi-pools. Go back a few years that'll do me Grin
How so ? Being a newcomer, I thought pools were about decreasing the variance...

He talks about multi-pools. It doesn't exist on Monero (yet).
A multi-pool mine altcoins and dump them automatically to only pay Bitcoins.
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Pools have ruined most coins like it or not especially multi-pools. Go back a few years that'll do me Grin

How so ? Being a newcomer, I thought pools were about decreasing the variance...
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Massive DDOS on all big pools.
Everything is down.
Thanks for fast update.
When can we expect it back in order?
When the DDOSer who is probably a big miner realize that killing the pools is bad for XMR reputation and it might affect the price negatively, therefore his profit.
Exactly! Only reason pools are being attacked is because of big solo miners or other pools / private pools being greedy. Fuck them go solo Smiley


I like the spirit of solo mining but variance is a bitch and people are not gonna mine for free.
We need pools to provide a flat reward among miners according to their hashing power.

Without pools, only few rich bot-miners will get the reward.
If miners perceive the reward as unfair, the coin die.


I agree totally. However if solo miners were allowed to mine a coin without pools then its upto the individual to how much hash power they are prepared to give whether it paid or not.

Pools have ruined most coins like it or not especially multi-pools. Go back a few years that'll do me Grin
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Massive DDOS on all big pools.
Everything is down.
Thanks for fast update.
When can we expect it back in order?
When the DDOSer who is probably a big miner realize that killing the pools is bad for XMR reputation and it might affect the price negatively, therefore his profit.
How come it still says the network hash is 13MH/s when the largest mining pool is down? I mean surely it would be 13 - 4 = 9MH/s now ?

I don't now how is the total hashrate is calculated so I cannot make conclusions. It could be updated every xx hours.
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