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legendary
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Even though the old wallet does not have a password, have you tried entering one?

If so, what was the error message?
legendary
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I owe my soul to the Bitcoin code...
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I have an old first gen wallet too, so am interested in how to import into 0.9 ver also. Can the info be made public?
thanks

I just open the wallet and it said something like 'converting the wallet'. I dont remember the words. Then simplewallet exited. And then i reopened it and worked fine. Took some time to check all the blocks.

Did not work here. Keeps asking for a password that doesn't exist.
legendary
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Just to let you guys know. moneroblocks.eu is gone. moneroblocks.info is coming.

I forgot to renew the domain and GoDaddy "forgot" to warn me before hand so that they could try to extort an outrageous "Redemption Fee".

So that's that.

 

Seems like Moneroblocks.info is up and running. Moneroblocks.info replaces Moneroblocks.eu.

the logo in top left corner still points at moneroblocks.eu. i use it a lot to navigate, please change.


something completely different: with the coming hardfork, trx will get bigger. are there plans to adapt fees? fees are allready high, we should lower it in my opinion.

Fees for a "typical" (3-4 kB) transaction are 1-2 USD cents.

There is no such thing as perpetual motion. If you are using resources in the system it is reasonable to expect to pay for them, with 1-2 cents not being even close too high.

Or to put it another way, you can send virtually any amount to anyone, anywhere in the world, relatively quickly, and be extremely private about it for well under 1 USD (even assuming much larger tx size, but in most cases still just a few cents). Sounds like a great bargain to me.
legendary
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Just to let you guys know. moneroblocks.eu is gone. moneroblocks.info is coming.

I forgot to renew the domain and GoDaddy "forgot" to warn me before hand so that they could try to extort an outrageous "Redemption Fee".

So that's that.

 

Seems like Moneroblocks.info is up and running. Moneroblocks.info replaces Moneroblocks.eu.

the logo in top left corner still points at moneroblocks.eu. i use it a lot to navigate, please change.


something completely different: with the coming hardfork, trx will get bigger. are there plans to adapt fees? fees are allready high, we should lower it in my opinion.


What we need to do is find a solution that doesn't require human intervention. Unfortunately this is uncharted territory and the primary datastream for this type of modification is uncoupled from the blockchain (not in phase... out of stream... what the hell was the terminology?).


In the technical discussion thread I tried to collect our thoughts so far:
https://bitcointalksearch.org/topic/xmr-monero-improvement-technical-discussion-1139756
sr. member
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hello world
Just to let you guys know. moneroblocks.eu is gone. moneroblocks.info is coming.

I forgot to renew the domain and GoDaddy "forgot" to warn me before hand so that they could try to extort an outrageous "Redemption Fee".

So that's that.

 

Seems like Moneroblocks.info is up and running. Moneroblocks.info replaces Moneroblocks.eu.

the logo in top left corner still points at moneroblocks.eu. i use it a lot to navigate, please change.


something completely different: with the coming hardfork, trx will get bigger. are there plans to adapt fees? fees are allready high, we should lower it in my opinion.
legendary
Activity: 2268
Merit: 1141
Just to let you guys know. moneroblocks.eu is gone. moneroblocks.info is coming.

I forgot to renew the domain and GoDaddy "forgot" to warn me before hand so that they could try to extort an outrageous "Redemption Fee".

So that's that.

 

Seems like Moneroblocks.info is up and running. Moneroblocks.info replaces Moneroblocks.eu.
legendary
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Merit: 1001
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I have an old first gen wallet too, so am interested in how to import into 0.9 ver also. Can the info be made public?
thanks

I just open the wallet and it said something like 'converting the wallet'. I dont remember the words. Then simplewallet exited. And then i reopened it and worked fine. Took some time to check all the blocks.
sr. member
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Here is another dumb question.  I have an old wallet from the earliest days of monero and I know there is no password associated with it.  I try to import it into 0.9 but it always asks for a password to access it upon simplewallet startup. What am I doing wrong here?

I think there were some compatibility issues when importing really old wallets (before 0.8.8.5/6 and mnemonic seed got introduced) into new clients. If I recall correctly, Fluffypony or MoneroMooo had a little trick to convert it into a new wallet, but I am not entirely sure how to do it. Could you contact either of them on IRC or here on Bitcointalk via PM? I am confident they will be able to resolve your issue. Just make sure you don't lose the files and properly backup them.

I have an old first gen wallet too, so am interested in how to import into 0.9 ver also. Can the info be made public?
thanks
legendary
Activity: 1470
Merit: 1000
Want privacy? Use Monero!
Monero's anonymity is already developed. Ct just makes it more awesome.

not only more awesome, it really solves some privacy issues that actually exist currently in Monero:
weuse.cash/2016/01/09/tying-up-loose-ends-with-ringct/
legendary
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Monero Core Team
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Monero's anonymity is already developed. Ct just makes it more awesome.

Multi signature is what smooth said, and is not really about privacy, but about human trust.

Multi signature is actually very important because it opens the door to a host of applications present in the Bitcoin blockchain, that were not possible before in Monero. The beauty of this is that these applications can now benefit from the transaction fungibility and privacy of Monero. It is a really cutting edge technology in a PoW crypto currency.
legendary
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I owe my soul to the Bitcoin code...
Will do, thanks.
legendary
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Here is another dumb question.  I have an old wallet from the earliest days of monero and I know there is no password associated with it.  I try to import it into 0.9 but it always asks for a password to access it upon simplewallet startup. What am I doing wrong here?

I think there were some compatibility issues when importing really old wallets (before 0.8.8.5/6 and mnemonic seed got introduced) into new clients. If I recall correctly, Fluffypony or MoneroMooo had a little trick to convert it into a new wallet, but I am not entirely sure how to do it. Could you contact either of them on IRC or here on Bitcointalk via PM? I am confident they will be able to resolve your issue. Just make sure you don't lose the files and properly backup them.
legendary
Activity: 1400
Merit: 1000
I owe my soul to the Bitcoin code...
Here is another dumb question.  I have an old wallet from the earliest days of monero and I know there is no password associated with it.  I try to import it into 0.9 but it always asks for a password to access it upon simplewallet startup. What am I doing wrong here?
hero member
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Just to let you guys know. moneroblocks.eu is gone. moneroblocks.info is coming.

I forgot to renew the domain and GoDaddy "forgot" to warn me before hand so that they could try to extort an outrageous "Redemption Fee".

So that's that.

 
legendary
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Forgive me, but I think I'm remembering somethings incorrectly... but weren't ring signatures already implemented in Monero before hand?

Ring signatures are inherent to the Monero protocol and achieve untraceability.

Ring Confidential Transactions hides the amounts (amounts are, even though obscured, still visibile on the blockchain and therefore an attack vector) as well, therefore strengthening the anonymity of Monero. CT basically solves a bunch of loose ends of Monero's anonymity.

Ring multi-signature is basically multi-signature (same idea as Bitcoin) for Monero including transactions with ring signatures (all those with mixin > 0). Previously, only multi-signature for transactions with mixin = 0 was possible. If I recall correctly, they will be indistinguishable from "regular" transactions. 

Hope all is clear now.

Oh ok, so it goes like this for the order of development of Monero's anonymity? :

1) Ring Signature  --> 2) CT --> 3) Ring multi-signatures?  I'm assuming 3 combines 1 and 2, plus being able to "sign" messages in a more abstract way?

Yes. Multisig means having multiple people signing a single transaction (e.g. 2/3 means two out of group of three people can spend coins in a wallet, but one person alone couldn't). It could theoretically be done without CT (instead of ring+CT+multi, just ring+multi) but it seems we are combining that with CT now.

Monero's anonymity is already developed. Ct just makes it more awesome.

Multi signature is what smooth said, and is not really about privacy, but about human trust.
legendary
Activity: 2968
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Forgive me, but I think I'm remembering somethings incorrectly... but weren't ring signatures already implemented in Monero before hand?

Ring signatures are inherent to the Monero protocol and achieve untraceability.

Ring Confidential Transactions hides the amounts (amounts are, even though obscured, still visibile on the blockchain and therefore an attack vector) as well, therefore strengthening the anonymity of Monero. CT basically solves a bunch of loose ends of Monero's anonymity.

Ring multi-signature is basically multi-signature (same idea as Bitcoin) for Monero including transactions with ring signatures (all those with mixin > 0). Previously, only multi-signature for transactions with mixin = 0 was possible. If I recall correctly, they will be indistinguishable from "regular" transactions. 

Hope all is clear now.

Oh ok, so it goes like this for the order of development of Monero's anonymity? :

1) Ring Signature  --> 2) CT --> 3) Ring multi-signatures?  I'm assuming 3 combines 1 and 2, plus being able to "sign" messages in a more abstract way?

Yes. Multisig means having multiple people signing a single transaction (e.g. 2/3 means two out of group of three people can spend coins in a wallet, but one person alone couldn't). It could theoretically be done without CT (instead of ring+CT+multi, just ring+multi) but it seems we are combining that with CT now.
hero member
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Keep what's important, and know who's your friend

Forgive me, but I think I'm remembering somethings incorrectly... but weren't ring signatures already implemented in Monero before hand?

Ring signatures are inherent to the Monero protocol and achieve untraceability.

Ring Confidential Transactions hides the amounts (amounts are, even though obscured, still visibile on the blockchain and therefore an attack vector) as well, therefore strengthening the anonymity of Monero. CT basically solves a bunch of loose ends of Monero's anonymity.

Ring multi-signature is basically multi-signature (same idea as Bitcoin) for Monero including transactions with ring signatures (all those with mixin > 0). Previously, only multi-signature for transactions with mixin = 0 was possible. If I recall correctly, they will be indistinguishable from "regular" transactions.  

Hope all is clear now.

Oh ok, so it goes like this for the order of development of Monero's anonymity? :

1) Ring Signature  --> 2) CT --> 3) Ring multi-signatures?  I'm assuming 3 combines 1 and 2, plus being able to "sign" messages in a more abstract way?
legendary
Activity: 2268
Merit: 1141
I beat Dr. Bookmarks to it (aka Debruyne)!

https://forum.getmonero.org/8/funding-required/2450/ring-ct-c-crypto

A Noether is asking for funding for the ring confidential transaction stuff!!!!

:-(

A bit more detailed reply:

Funding required for implementation of Ring Confidential Transactions (CT) (by Shen Noether aka NobleSir), which will also enable the implementation of ring multi-signature!

https://forum.getmonero.org/7/open-tasks/2450/ring-ct-c-crypto

Shen's comment regarding ring multi-signature:

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Yes - there are a couple of ways to go with the multisig - once the MG sigs are there, the method detailed in section 4.4 here https://www.overleaf.com/read/qzgytbyyxvyf is available (probably even without the CT part of, but then you have to be more careful with amounts).

All updates, whitepapers etc. regarding Ring Confidential Transactions (CT) can be found here ->  https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/3pw30d/ringct_for_monero_updated_versions/

Forgive me, but I think I'm remembering somethings incorrectly... but weren't ring signatures already implemented in Monero before hand?

Ring signatures are inherent to the Monero protocol and achieve untraceability.

Ring Confidential Transactions hides the amounts (amounts are, even though obscured, still visibile on the blockchain and therefore an attack vector) as well, therefore strengthening the anonymity of Monero. CT basically solves a bunch of loose ends of Monero's anonymity.

Ring multi-signature is basically multi-signature (same idea as Bitcoin) for Monero including transactions with ring signatures (all those with mixin > 0). Previously, only multi-signature for transactions with mixin = 0 was possible. If I recall correctly, they will be indistinguishable from "regular" transactions.  

Hope all is clear now.
hero member
Activity: 1873
Merit: 840
Keep what's important, and know who's your friend
I beat Dr. Bookmarks to it (aka Debruyne)!

https://forum.getmonero.org/8/funding-required/2450/ring-ct-c-crypto

A Noether is asking for funding for the ring confidential transaction stuff!!!!

:-(

A bit more detailed reply:

Funding required for implementation of Ring Confidential Transactions (CT) (by Shen Noether aka NobleSir), which will also enable the implementation of ring multi-signature!

https://forum.getmonero.org/7/open-tasks/2450/ring-ct-c-crypto

Shen's comment regarding ring multi-signature:

Quote
Yes - there are a couple of ways to go with the multisig - once the MG sigs are there, the method detailed in section 4.4 here https://www.overleaf.com/read/qzgytbyyxvyf is available (probably even without the CT part of, but then you have to be more careful with amounts).

All updates, whitepapers etc. regarding Ring Confidential Transactions (CT) can be found here ->  https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/3pw30d/ringct_for_monero_updated_versions/

Forgive me, but I think I'm remembering somethings incorrectly... but weren't ring signatures already implemented in Monero before hand?
legendary
Activity: 2268
Merit: 1141
I beat Dr. Bookmarks to it (aka Debruyne)!

https://forum.getmonero.org/8/funding-required/2450/ring-ct-c-crypto

A Noether is asking for funding for the ring confidential transaction stuff!!!!

2375 of 3150 XMR funded in 5 hours. Impressive. I can't use my wallet until Monday, but I'll throw a few XMR into the hat if any are still needed (which looks doubtful with this progress).
Q

Fully funded already :-)
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