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Topic: [XMR] Monero Speculation - page 2171. (Read 3313070 times)

legendary
Activity: 1624
Merit: 1008
September 03, 2014, 06:53:37 PM
Well I lied again.  I bought more Monero today at 1% above the recent bottom if indeed it is a bottom.  Also bought at 3% above the last bottom.  I have no feel for tops as I only buy Grin  Now that I have finished buying, no I mean it this time, I will start looking for tops.

I don't think we will moon until Moneo is ready for prime time.

legendary
Activity: 1470
Merit: 1000
Want privacy? Use Monero!
September 03, 2014, 06:15:46 PM
Breakout?

 Grin

Asks are down to 160k and bids up to 540 btc. I hope we can gain some momentum! Do you guys think it will break the previous tops @ 0.0058? Personally I think we first need some good news or update about the wallet before we can break that..

don't know,

could be a false break out. If not, we will probably touch 5.7-5.8 region and a pullback to 5.0-4.9 region maybe?
Just my "gut feeling"

I could be wrong, do your own analysis  Wink
legendary
Activity: 2268
Merit: 1141
September 03, 2014, 06:11:06 PM
Breakout?

 Grin

Asks are down to 160k and bids up to 540 btc. I hope we can gain some momentum! Do you guys think it will break the previous tops @ 0.0058? Personally I think we first need some good news or update about the wallet before we can break that..
legendary
Activity: 2324
Merit: 1125
September 03, 2014, 06:09:48 PM
It sure looks that way  Smiley
legendary
Activity: 1470
Merit: 1000
Want privacy? Use Monero!
September 03, 2014, 05:53:16 PM
Breakout?

 Grin
legendary
Activity: 2156
Merit: 1072
Crypto is the separation of Power and State.
September 03, 2014, 05:44:45 PM
Dmitry has stated that btc-e is very much against premine, when asked why no new coins are being added he stated: "all new coins with premine Sad"

Somebody who speaks russian may be able to convince him about monero. I speculate that btc-e may also prefer to own a seisable stash of whatever currency they add. That may be more of a difficult feat. I have some vague memory of something like FTC devs paying a huge chunk of coins to get it added, but in another case btc-e ended up doing a proof of burn after accusations of recieving coins (maybe that was TRC or nova?). Don't quote me on that, maybe somebody else remembers better.

Monero being added to btc-e would definitivly take the price and volume to a new level, likely beyond LTC.

We're supposed to hold off on the marketing blitz until the database and wallet are done-ish.

Then we'll commission a spiel for exchanges ("zomg look how much btc/xmr volume already and just imagine the fiat pairs...!") and translate it for the hardworking prosperous BRICs and lazy heathen PIIGS.
legendary
Activity: 2968
Merit: 1198
September 03, 2014, 05:26:46 PM
Dmitry has stated that btc-e is very much against premine, when asked why no new coins are being added he stated: "all new coins with premine Sad"

Somebody who speaks russian may be able to convince him about monero. I speculate that btc-e may also prefer to own a seisable stash of whatever currency they add. That may be more of a difficult feat. I have some vague memory of something like FTC devs paying a huge chunk of coins to get it added, but in another case btc-e ended up doing a proof of burn after accusations of recieving coins (maybe that was TRC or nova?). Don't quote me on that, maybe somebody else remembers better.

I think it was TRC NVC but in any case. How do the developers give a huge chunk of coins without a premine (or instamine or some other scam)? I don't get it. About the only way I can think of other than the developers being independently wealthy would be if the coin went zombie for a while and no one other than the developers was bothering to mine it. That seems like a small target market. Perhaps that explains why they don't add too many coins.


legendary
Activity: 1552
Merit: 1047
September 03, 2014, 05:24:06 PM
Dmitry has stated that btc-e is very much against premine, when asked why no new coins are being added he stated: "all new coins with premine Sad"

Somebody who speaks russian may be able to convince him about monero. I speculate that btc-e may also prefer to own a seisable stash of whatever currency they add. That may be more of a difficult feat. I have some vague memory of something like FTC devs paying a huge chunk of coins to get it added, but in another case btc-e ended up doing a proof of burn after accusations of recieving coins (maybe that was TRC or nova?). Don't quote me on that, maybe somebody else remembers better.

Monero being added to btc-e would definitivly take the price and volume to a new level, likely beyond LTC.
legendary
Activity: 2156
Merit: 1072
Crypto is the separation of Power and State.
September 03, 2014, 02:14:18 PM
I say BTC-e adding XMR will have a greater impact than it would being added to cryptsy.

I 1000% agree with this.  It seems like a perfect fit for BTC-E ...

smoothie...master of understatement!   Cheesy

Craptsy is only good for trading your bag of Shitcoins for other Shitcoins (like Diamond and Sync, for example).

Listing on BTC-E would enable Monero-fiat (dollar/euro/ruble/yuan) trading, which would catalyze Gresham's Law and drive market cap up towards the moon.

Just wait until the oligarchs figure out how much safer from Putin/FATCA their loot will be when they hlod it in Monero!   Smiley
legendary
Activity: 2268
Merit: 1141
September 03, 2014, 02:00:14 PM
Possible break out scenarios:
GUI wallet interface released by dev team.
Cryptsy ads XMR to their exchange. (Rumour)
Open Bazaar is modified to work with Monero.
A decent online wallet is released.  

I say BTC-e adding XMR will have a greater impact than it would being added to cryptsy.

There are still a lot of whales on cryptsy, adding XMR  would boost up price and volume. For example see the dogecoin volume, which is around 50-100k a day.

Total traded BTC volume on a daily basis...BTC-e blows cryptsy out of the water.

Yeah I totally agree on that, but my point was adding it to cryptsy would also do monero good. I described it wrong in my previous post, sorry for that! Personally I think that would take a long time for btc-e to add XMR, they first need to delist some coins which barely have volume.
legendary
Activity: 2492
Merit: 1473
LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
September 03, 2014, 01:51:31 PM
Possible break out scenarios:
GUI wallet interface released by dev team.
Cryptsy ads XMR to their exchange. (Rumour)
Open Bazaar is modified to work with Monero.
A decent online wallet is released.  

I say BTC-e adding XMR will have a greater impact than it would being added to cryptsy.

There are still a lot of whales on cryptsy, adding XMR  would boost up price and volume. For example see the dogecoin volume, which is around 50-100k a day.

Total traded BTC volume on a daily basis...BTC-e blows cryptsy out of the water.
legendary
Activity: 2268
Merit: 1141
September 03, 2014, 01:31:54 PM
Possible break out scenarios:
GUI wallet interface released by dev team.
Cryptsy ads XMR to their exchange. (Rumour)
Open Bazaar is modified to work with Monero.
A decent online wallet is released.  

I say BTC-e adding XMR will have a greater impact than it would being added to cryptsy.

There are still a lot of whales on cryptsy, adding XMR  would boost up price and volume. For example see the dogecoin volume, which is around 50-100k a day.
sr. member
Activity: 469
Merit: 250
English Motherfucker do you speak it ?
September 03, 2014, 12:25:59 PM
Possible break out scenarios:
GUI wallet interface released by dev team.
Cryptsy ads XMR to their exchange. (Rumour)
Open Bazaar is modified to work with Monero.
A decent online wallet is released.  

I say BTC-e adding XMR will have a greater impact than it would being added to cryptsy.
Possible. But I don't think btc-e will ever add any more coins. Happy to be wrong on that subject though. 

I say more likely Bitfinex dumps DRK and add XMR.
Now that would be fun.  Cheesy
legendary
Activity: 1256
Merit: 1009
September 03, 2014, 12:24:42 PM
Possible break out scenarios:
GUI wallet interface released by dev team.
Cryptsy ads XMR to their exchange. (Rumour)
Open Bazaar is modified to work with Monero.
A decent online wallet is released.  

I say BTC-e adding XMR will have a greater impact than it would being added to cryptsy.

I 1000% agree with this.  It seems like a perfect fit for BTC-E ...
legendary
Activity: 2492
Merit: 1473
LEALANA Bitcoin Grim Reaper
September 03, 2014, 12:23:01 PM
Possible break out scenarios:
GUI wallet interface released by dev team.
Cryptsy ads XMR to their exchange. (Rumour)
Open Bazaar is modified to work with Monero.
A decent online wallet is released.  

I say BTC-e adding XMR will have a greater impact than it would being added to cryptsy.
legendary
Activity: 1610
Merit: 1004
September 03, 2014, 12:03:24 PM
Sure. But unless you have a huge quantity of coins to sell, you cannot force it down by more than a few 0.00001s.

My interpretation on the situation is that it does make sense for latent buyers to buy because there is little to gain even from huge dumps (except if you arrange your buys as bid walls that the others have also done, aggravating the bid/ask imbalance). By waiting you win very little even if you are right. The walls are very real, nothing has been pulled during the downtrend.

I remember when 0.00334 was being defended with huge walls, after bouncing from that area many times. A huge dump ensued, taking it down to 0.00290 (lowest daily average was 0.00305, this is a better measure if you actually needed to try to buy that low). So a gain of less than 10% for the patient waiters.

If we just scale the numbers, the dump case now would be that 50k XMR get sold quickly to force the price from 0.00394 to 0.00342 as its lowest point, but the average for the lowest day would be 0.00360. This would scale very well with the ascending lows trend of 175-231-290-342, so would not be an impossible outcome (quite probable, actually) but also in no way "bad". Remember - it's only -10%, and nobody compels you to sell at a loss! Smiley

The upside is much more than 10%, and the resistance to get there is much smaller. I give this scenario a higher percentage as a result.

A shameless repost, I think this was a good analysis and would like to hear comments.

In general I agree with this analysis. Until there are some fundamental developments (database, GUI) completed that enable the flood of new users unwilling to tinker with Monero in its current state, price will continue to oscillate making higher lows each time.

I suspect the 0.004 level will hold for this week and then buy support will erode to sub 300 BTC, slowly dropping to around 0.00365. We will see the XMR ask sum around the low of 160,000 and that will be the sign it is time to go up again.

With that being said, there have been no missives for a couple weeks - this could mean devs are just busy or perhaps they are close to reaching some big milestone and delaying the next missive until complete. I have no idea, but I am not selling any XMR right now.
legendary
Activity: 2730
Merit: 1288
September 03, 2014, 11:33:09 AM
What i prefer is that price will not go under 0.0035 this month, and not under 0.004 in October, and not under 0.0045 in December and in January not under 0.005.
I am lucky guy, since there is huge chance, what i prefer will happen.   Grin
legendary
Activity: 1596
Merit: 1030
Sine secretum non libertas
September 03, 2014, 11:30:57 AM
Does anyone use cryptsy?  I guess for the alts everyone else has delisted.

GUI before DB would be a mistake, IMO. 

I would hope I would have heard about it if OpenBazaar work for XMR was close to ready.

That leaves online wallet.  That could happen in a week or two, yes.

But you forgot gambling sites.  That could happen soonest.
legendary
Activity: 1428
Merit: 1001
getmonero.org
September 03, 2014, 11:22:05 AM

9+x return in less than 60 days?  That is a bold call.
It's the altcoin market. Crazier things have happened before.
See my possible break out scenarious mentioned above.


No i prefer to see it double in 60 days than seeing it 9 times up. So big bubbles are bad. After all darkcoin is irrelevant as an anonymous coin anymore and when monero doubles its price it will be above darkcoin anyway...
sr. member
Activity: 469
Merit: 250
English Motherfucker do you speak it ?
September 03, 2014, 11:19:01 AM

9+x return in less than 60 days?  That is a bold call.
It's the altcoin market. Crazier things have happened before.
See my possible break out scenarious mentioned above.
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